Micro 843 - Pop Goes the Nightkill (Game Over!)

[Aristophanes]

First.

Flagrant abuse of Mod powers! I should report you!

@mith,
Ban this man!

VOTE: Ari

OMG U Suck!
VOTE: PP XD

[Aristophanes]

Honestly this playerlist is fantastic! =D

VOTE: Ari

I am town, ask me anything

Red town or Green town?

[Aristophanes]

I was going to ask why you weren't voting lol.

Way to read the rules XD

[Aristophanes]

Honestly this playerlist is fantastic! =D

VOTE: Ari

I am town, ask me anything

Red town or Green town?

Why do you ask

I have my reasons.

[Aristophanes]

I'm interested in his motivations for asking a question to which I have the options of:

- Answering that I'm green town, which shows nothing
- Answering that I'm red town, which is obviously not possible, and shows nothing

I'm not letting jokey ha ha im so casual now lemme lurk away Ari get away with anything here

Me? Lurk!?
Okay, maybe.

Buuuut this is an interesting answer. Probably town tbh.
Thanks Reck

[Aristophanes]

Probably town tbh.

y?

Role PMs have no colour.

If he were scum I'd expect him to shoot that back at me. As town, he probably didn't recheck his role PM and thus didn't notice.

[Aristophanes]

for whatever it's worth I immediately went to check if my role PM had color when I read your question

and I would have said "black" if you'd asked me that question

This is interesting and I'm gonna keep it in mind!

Also, you apparently use mafSilver and I am disappoint. MafBlack is the only one that matters!
VOTE: TTTT for this disgrace:P

[Aristophanes]

and also I like the way you are reading the game
and that makes the woo-woo hairs on the back of my neck stand up

From the one who said PP doesn't do anything...

@Pengy - you are probably right about role PMs
and it really hurts to admit that

What a surprise! Does this aid in the townread or is it just a fun note?

[Aristophanes]

I've also never been mislynched
which is not what I expected

This is relevant because??

[Aristophanes]

From the one who said PP doesn't do anything...

<3 U PP XD

[Aristophanes]

What a surprise! Does this aid in the townread or is it just a fun note?

are you asking if I TR Pengy bc I like how he's reading the game?
if so, yeah it contributes to viewing him more favorably when he sees things in a similar way

The role PM point doesn't really have anything to do with reading the game. I was just being snarky I guess.
I was more going along the lines of "does this obvious observation you should have agreed with from the start leading to a townread?"

[Aristophanes]

Nice crumbing I'll buy it lol.

Ari why are you feeling snippy today?

Not entirely sure...

My aloe plant committed seppuku today and it ruined my morning. Maybe that? Hahaha

[Aristophanes]

Realize that site administration will take 50% of gross profits to start. Just fyi.

Is this our new financial motive for 2019? XD

[Aristophanes]

Maestro talk to me about Chickadee plz

That's an oddly specific callout. Did you have something specific in mind?

Yah, why me? Because I called you an edgelord?

tbh I forgot this wasn't a geriatric game - I thought I had to conserve posts - I'll put a bit more into this tonight

You've made 4 posts...
In total XD

Even in a geriatric you should post more than that hahaha

[Aristophanes]

Alao I love the avi! Welcome back

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Ya, that is all. I'd like to see more of you! Because I like you, and to geta read I guess.

Have you read up?

[Aristophanes]

{CoA}
{Cheeky, PP}
{Ari}
{Chick, Maestro, Tx4} - Null
{Reck, Majiffy}

these aren't bad at all
Move Chick down to that bottom group
and I'm with you

Ya both bad at this game

Because of their reads on whom?

Like we know your townreads but what about scumreads?

[Aristophanes]

Where did everyone go?

HI!

Nothing is going on so I said nothing.

Do you have anything to change that?

[Aristophanes]

I doubt voting him will have any effect...
Like that works on newer players but experienced players are far less likely to be pulled back into the thread due to a wagon on them.

Cheeky, you haven't stated many reads. Care to give us any?

[Aristophanes]

Well Im feeling apathetic here. We could always brute force a win by lynching everyone that isnt TTTT, Penguin, COA.

I don't have a lot of CoA experience. Wjat makes them a townread this strong, cheeky?
Why aren't you on your own list?

@Jiffy, what makes you wary of this suggestion?

She's not wrong.

Well, maybe about TTTT, but that's probably just my paranoia talking.

TTTT is probably where my vote is going. Where does the townread come from?

[Aristophanes]

I got scumvibes off of a bunch of their posts. I can do a proper post about it after work if you like!

You've PoE'd them as town? Meaning they are null but you have enough scumreads to place them as not scum?

[Aristophanes]

Ah, okay then!
Which of your scumreads are you likely to vote for? Or are you going to decude that once popcorning begins?

[Aristophanes]

Bacisally, to state that better, which is your srrongest scumread?

[Aristophanes]

I like Majiffy and Chick both more now
than I did a couple days ago

I think Majiffy and Chick are more likely a couple than I did a few days ago

[Aristophanes]

Ari, plz follow thru on your proper post on scum!me

I got scumvibes off of a bunch of their posts. I can do a proper post about it after work if you like!

You've PoE'd them as town? Meaning they are null but you have enough scumreads to place them as not scum?

Sorry! I took a long needed self-care night and didn't do anything here. I'll do it tonight

[Aristophanes]

i have always been an advocate for lynching people that lurk and do nothing

But you don't want to lynch Maestro...

maestro has not proven to me he is capable of bamboozling a town after lurking out all game

ari has

<3

This is actually really nice!
I thought I was simply the worst as scum but I guess I'm making progress!

[Aristophanes]

@T, why did you reread your role pm when Ari initially asked his question. That seems odd. I reread mine, but I didn't do it until Ari pointed out role PM's had no color.

I assumed there was a reason behind the question
and I was like wait did my PM even have color
and the lightbulb went off that if it didn't then the question was a trap
so I was interested in how it played out
23 and 29 are in this context
and now everyone townreads me and scum makes me their first kill
should be a fun game

I know you're being purposely ridiculous but there are a few instances of you saying you're obvtown/going to be the first kill/etc that make me feel like you're trying to convince yourself of it so the thread will believe you.

Why me?

bc otherwise you won't do anything until the end of the game

This seemed kinda forced and unfair to PP. Plus, if yku don't think he'll be doing anything this game why would giving him a manufactured IIOA post to proddodge with help that??

like I just assumed it
I wasn't thinking hmmm I wonder if there's a reason behind this let me weigh the pros and cons and analyze the probabilities
it was like hey this looks like there's a reason for this
and yep there was one
and now people are more interested in me noticing this than they are in Reck's response or Ari's TR of that response

It feels here like you don't want the focus in you and you are trying to shift it back to Reck and I not because you want the co versatikn to happen but because you don't want to the attention!

does this look like the face of someone who has ever pocketed anybody?

I've also never been mislynched
which is not what I expected

These beg for the townread as well and just, I don't see these comjng from town.

I doubt voting him will have any effect...
Like that works on newer players but experienced players are far less likely to be pulled back into the thread due to a wagon on them.

you are not wrong
especially here
when voting does nothing more than share your takes

Honestly I had forgotten that when I made the post. But I stand by the fact that voting maestro to show intent on him is unlikely to glean results, as has been shown. Your Hurt tag idea also seemed like it was just a little forced, as did the vote with a letter in each. Maybe I just don't get your humour but I feel like it's really been forced here!

I just feel like you're being light and jokey while deflecting reads elsewhere and begging for the townread.

[Aristophanes]

Haha what a pagetop!

[Aristophanes]

I think everyone should use the same snapchat filter that Reck and I have used.

I don't jnow how to use filters on Snapchat tbh. Sorry!

i swear to God nobody better say that stupid Airplane movie quote!!

[Aristophanes]

I will be traveling all day tomorrow, and won't be around much. If I have enough spare time during my layover, I'll check what's going on.

Also this for me too plz!

Though I'll probably be bored on a bus so it's far more likely I'll be here tbh.

[Aristophanes]

since nobody else is commenting on Ari's case on me
I will
he's wrong
but he's wrong in a way that looks good

I'm voting maestro
change my mind

Well you'll probably have Disc2 to town it up since I'd bet that Maestro eats this lynch. Even though he's a lurker lynch that will not advance the game in any way. He's impossible to get reads or associatives off of since he's been a non-entity.

Though my best alternative is you so I guess this post is pointless XD

[Aristophanes]

Yusss Alibae <3

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Yep lol

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: TTTT

Next: xRECKONERx

edited for format

[Aristophanes]

Reck, if you hadn't staryed my wagon and had voted one of the existing ones where would you have voted?

[Aristophanes]

@Ari: I cannot see how in any way, shape, or form your question matters

You don't get why asking where your vote would have been matters? Lol

[Aristophanes]

I guess I should actually dk something eh?

How does the Ali flip change your reads CoA?

Not entirely sure yet. The default response is to say "I'll have to re-evaluate", but I'm fairly confident in my most confident townreads, so it may be a simple matter of moving down the list on my scumreads.

Not fond of this answer. It was very throwaway and the selfawareness of that doesn't help it. What does the list look like now CoA?

As I've said I scumread him because I've found him awkward in certain places and majiffy wasn't an option or I would've voted there. Why did you vote Ali?

I'm known for being awkward. Is that really the best case you can come up with? Lol

3 - Alisae (TTTT, PenguinPower, CultofAthena)

This entire wagon is lynchable rn tbh

The Maestro wagon was always sketch and then the Alisae wagon before she could even catch up was doubleplusbad

There's scum here for sure for sure

PP has a high town EV tbh. The other two maybe though. I'm not sold on CoA town like PP is and I don't even think TTTT is playing...

[Aristophanes]

I mean it could be possible the scum in you three is buddied with Ari, sure.

Ari's push for me has always been "this literally has to die before LyLo and if he's town scum will never kill him" and I still hold that to be true.

I can't blame you for wanting me gone before lylo as that's always better for town XD
But ya I think you're missing that I get NK'd when I obvtown, which I think you'll see as I actually participate more!

I think PP is actually pinging my tinglies the most right now but CoA's hammer was uhhhhhh superbad

why was CoA's hammer so bad?

This is actually a good question. She had to hammer someone so why was it bad that she did?

Like, fmpov, you started a wagon you knew wouldn't get pushed through so that you can act all high and mighty and call out those who were on the mislynch.

Wrong??? I was pushing for Ari nonstop?? And it ended up tied for second for votes at the end of the day?
Masterful deflection of your own bullshit tho for real A+++ puppetmastering

I mean PP has a point, the wagon was extremely unlikely. That's why I asked for your alternate vote option. I guess a mostly null read as the other option does make it tempting to vote someone you want dead. Your pushes on me seem all over the place in severity tho.
Did you want to strongarm a lynch or did you not are as long as I'm gone before lylo?

[Aristophanes]

like how is that not believable for you

It's believable just dumb

i had no idea COA would badhammer

Let me just stop you right there

CoA is scum, dude

What makes you so certain here?

@Ari: I cannot see how in any way, shape, or form your question matters

You don't get why asking where your vote would have been matters? Lol

Yeah I'm with Ari here, it's a relevant question

But PP and COA are scum so let's not quabble too hard

<3
But same question. While I see where you would get associatives I don't think scum interact like this. CoA is likely scum but PP is super not playing a scumgame.

I know she's not enjoying the game. Could see a TTTT/PP team if PP flipped red.

TTTT scum maybe.
I'm beginning to think TTTT/CoA but I haven't looked at associations yet. Thoughts on that?

what happened to you thinking im scum

Still think you're scummy. Not sure why you think me being willing to vote Ari changes that.

There's obviously no support for your lynch today, and Ari isn't really doing anything so...

I mean, if you want my lynch order it would be Majiffy>you>TTTT>Ari>Cheeky>CoA.

I was busy
TTTT>CoA>Cheeky>Jiffy>Reck>PP imo

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What gives you a Jiffy scumread, Reck?

[Aristophanes]

I frel like Jiffy would bw potentially worried about Chick reading hkm correctly. But why do you think the kill is unlikely to be his?

[Aristophanes]

Nah if you need to replace out go for it. I've stayed in games I've disliked and it sucks man! I appreciate you being willing to stay <3

[Aristophanes]

Bye TTTT
We miss you!

I really don't know what to do with the Cheeky/CoA argument there.

[Aristophanes]

Hi TW! =F

[Aristophanes]

=D***

[Aristophanes]

Lemme know when you do catch up and your thoughts on things because if you really are town this game just got a whole lot easier! I had ypur slot as my top scumspect, where ypu remain unless I see otherwise

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They are different in intent, Reck.

Fluffy posts insinuate engagement with the thread and usually mean a certain amount of reading along. Proddodging flat out usually means the thread is mostly unread and denoted a lack of engagement, as is indicated by the later replace out of that player.

Majiffy is walking that line right now too but I feel he's actually being somewhat scummy in doing so. I have to look at him a little closer.

[Aristophanes]

What is leading to your scumread theee? I know some posts have pinged me hard but I didn't see much from you about him (unless I can't read...) other than the scumread.I know it's not based on vote placement but where is it rooted in?

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They are different in intent, Reck.

Fluffy posts insinuate engagement with the thread and usually mean a certain amount of reading along. Proddodging flat out usually means the thread is mostly unread and denoted a lack of engagement, as is indicated by the later replace out of that player.

Majiffy is walking that line right now too but I feel he's actually being somewhat scummy in doing so. I have to look at him a little closer.

And simply posting in the thread is indicative of alignment how?

If anything, fluffposts are scummier because they give the illusion of contributing without actually contributing.
Prod dodges are openly evasive and honest about what they are, which I find to be way more likely to be a towntell than fluffposts.

Oh totally. Fluff posts are definitely more likely scum than simple proddodges! Iwas merely outlining the difference

[Aristophanes]

I mean, why do yku think I don't dislike the scumread you had on me and disliked the Maestro/Alisae wagon! I get where you're coming from on it, even if it is wrong.

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did you read my long catchup ramble? I'm thinking probably not because I shaded your TTTT read quite a bit and asked you to explain it and you haven't :< it's ok either way

Oh shit, must have missed it!
I'll give it another look! Sorry my friend

[Aristophanes]

i think that's pretty much all i'll read tonight and i feel ~ok

final reads are roughly
{tw}
{CT}
{CoA}
{PP}
{Reck}
{Ari}
{Majiffy}



all i really want to hear back on (other than if someone wants to teach me how to snapchat filter obv) is

ridiculous

@Ari

yo level with me on this one?
what makes you think TTTT rolls wolf and...decides to approach the game this way?
it feels more like a list of grievances than a scumcase


+ how my repin made CoA feel

+ question just asked to Reck

i'll be around for realtime fun til deadline

nice to be here. this list rocks. <3

Heyyy I found it!
So this was twofold. TTTT came in being ridiculous which obfuscates reading their alignment. It's potential scum because it prevents a proper read, which is good as that alignment. Plus I know for a fact they dislike playing as scum via a game which just finished half an hour ago. I will maybe do a comparative Iso but no promises.

Second was their pushong an "I'm obvtow/ObvNK" agenda which I see from Scum a lot, and overconfident town sometimes (Read: RC). I didn't get that vibe from TTTT and don't assume they play this way so scum is a more likely scenario.

[Aristophanes]

any chance you might be willing to tier/weight reads?

Yee, I did a lynch order i response to PP's but I'll revise it. One sec

[Aristophanes]

TTTT>CoA>Cheeky>Jiffy>Reck>PP imo

This was the past one.

Jiffy>CoA>TW>Cheeky>Reck>PP would be more accurate now.

[Aristophanes]

Entirely possible, ya

[Aristophanes]

CoA is very possibly scum lol

If Jiffy flips town...fuck man. CoA should be scum and it leaves Cheeky or TW...bithbof which require a strong reread but probably Cheeky tbh. You've done well for your slot tbh

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: Majiffy

Next: PenguinPower

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, theres no way scum kill me really, especially with that comment, Reck. But if that's the case we're doomed already

PP I still don't see the obvtown read you have on CoA.

BB, who was the "conftown" that voted Jiffy??

[Aristophanes]

Right, sorry! Lost me bearings waiting for the replacement to happen XD

[Aristophanes]

Does CoA know the game is in Discussion again??

[Aristophanes]

Reck seems town

What makes you say this? Recent or old posts? What do you think if his PP read?

Who is your proposed scumteam?

[Aristophanes]

Flavor text catch up is happening today, honest.

Literally me in every game I've modded

I'll be back tn to update thoughts. I was asking questions zo ensure I'm not off on my thinking. Wanna go through Isos before I commit to my reads.

Scumteams are weird this game no matter what pairing I come up with and I don't much like that!

[Aristophanes]

I don't believe I ever once stated a townread on Majiffy, and after the Chicka flip I grew wary of them. He'd been middling until that point but shifted a lot more in my scunreads with his interactions yesterday following that kill. Like literally where did I have a townread on him yesterday, nevermind a strong one??

[Aristophanes]

Obv @ me XD

Just got home from a test, answer incoming

[Aristophanes]

PP quote with answers

TTTT>CoA>Cheeky>Jiffy>Reck>PP imo

Jiffy was middlingly null by posting alone at this point, so he is placed as such.

What gives you a Jiffy scumread, Reck?

Asking a question to understand Reck's opinion, which can help sort both him and Majiffy!

I frel like Jiffy would bw potentially worried about Chick reading hkm correctly. But why do you think the kill is unlikely to be his?

In addressing Majiffy I realized possible scum intent with the kill, as Chicka is undoubtedly the person who could read him best in this game! The N1 kill makes perfect sense from him with this in mind.

They are different in intent, Reck.

Fluffy posts insinuate engagement with the thread and usually mean a certain amount of reading along. Proddodging flat out usually means the thread is mostly unread and denoted a lack of engagement, as is indicated by the later replace out of that player.

Majiffy is walking that line right now too but I feel he's actually being somewhat scummy in doing so. I have to look at him a little closer.

As the quote said, he looked scummy in his thread interactions, or active lack thereof!

Jiffy>CoA>TW>Cheeky>Reck>PP would be more accurate now.

Upon review he looked far more scummy than I had initially thought and therefore he was the one I chose to vote!
Was it a mistake? Apparently. Sorry Jiffy But we can still win this!

[Aristophanes]

VOTE: xRECKONERx

Next: PenguinPower

[Aristophanes]

G fucking G!
What a great game!

What made you pick Molla in the end, Reck?

[Aristophanes]

Sorry Ari!

GG

You did a great game Molla! Thanks for replacing in and putting in such a good effort in lategame!

[Aristophanes]

You're both dead to me

XD

Gettig you lynched and spinning the Chickadee kill as you being afraid of her was a lot of fun tbh

[Aristophanes]

It's mostly just me rambling for a page. Enjoy! XD

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, as I mentioned, the setup was great! And the pace was also very good, so thanks guys