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Post Post #3100 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:39 pm

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Do I need to detail why at this point? ProFlavor's my preferred lynch there by a lot.
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Post Post #3101 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:43 pm

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Yes, I'd prefer you detail why. Any reasons in addition to mine on why Pintu is town?
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Post Post #3102 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:44 pm

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There are several things that point against a me-Alchemist scum team, things that point against a me-ProFlavor scum team and things that point towards Alchemist being scum.

Most of it my confidence here is tied to dead people that were actively engaging in the game the first day and at times mind melded with me
at the time on D1
- Shoshin the worst and Taly.
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Post Post #3103 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:44 pm

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Mewtaph u seem really relaxed about the whole notion ur being highly suspected here. It is kind of eery.
What is going through ur head right now?
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Post Post #3104 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:45 pm

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In post 3101, Michael Scott wrote:Yes, I'd prefer you detail why. Any reasons in addition to mine on why Pintu is town?
I think it's unlikely that two scum would be that inactive on D1.
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Post Post #3105 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:45 pm

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In post 3104, Mewtaph wrote:
In post 3101, Michael Scott wrote:Yes, I'd prefer you detail why. Any reasons in addition to mine on why Pintu is town?
I think it's unlikely that two scum would be that inactive on D1.
Why? I have seen that a lot in games.
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Post Post #3106 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:46 pm

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The confusing part right now is that Mewtaph wants a ProFlavor lynch - which is really weird for a {Mew, ProFlavor} scumteam; however, if {ProFlavor, Alch} is the scumteam then why would Alch place ProFlavor at L-1 in D2? I need to check again but I remember something of that sort happened.
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Post Post #3107 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:47 pm

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In post 3103, Firebringer wrote:Mewtaph u seem really relaxed about the whole notion ur being highly suspected here. It is kind of eery.
What is going through ur head right now?
ProFlavor just moved up away from Varsoon's shoot range when they have no real reason to if they are a VT.

Alchemist21 kind of just desperately shaded the BP claims but hey, you gotta create mislynches somehow.

I mean... a lot of people are kind of obv town but I guess yes if I am wrong I will see that very quickly with the proposed lynches and will adapt accordingly.
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Post Post #3108 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:48 pm

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Alchemist is definitely a player that will buss someone if they see them going down.
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Post Post #3109 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:49 pm

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In post 2249, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:
In post 2245, Creature wrote:Whatever

VOTE: ProFlavor
7-5 now.

Stw at L-1

Proflavor at L-3
In post 2251, Alchemist21 wrote:VOTE: ProFlavor
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Post Post #3110 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:49 pm

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In post 3106, Michael Scott wrote:The confusing part right now is that Mewtaph wants a ProFlavor lynch - which is really weird for a {Mew, ProFlavor} scumteam; however, if {ProFlavor, Alch} is the scumteam then why would Alch place ProFlavor at L-1 in D2? I need to check again but I remember something of that sort happened.
ProFlavor pushed the Taly/Creature slot to L-1 when Taly/Creature and NicoRobin/jjh927 slots were in wagon contention. This is another point against ProFlavor.
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Post Post #3111 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:50 pm

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Mewtaph is making a lot of sense right here and its scaring me.
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Post Post #3112 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:51 pm

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In post 3095, Firebringer wrote:Varsoon/Michael Scott/Me/Pintu all are town imo.
Mew are all these lock town for u right now?
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Post Post #3113 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:52 pm

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In post 3112, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3095, Firebringer wrote:Varsoon/Michael Scott/Me/Pintu all are town imo.
Mew are all these lock town for u right now?
Yes, but I mean if we hit lylo and I'm still alive I will consider the possibility that I am pocketed. I do not think it is very likely though.
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Post Post #3114 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:54 pm

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Man mew has really reversed my read here.
if he is scum this masterful work.
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Post Post #3115 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm

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Do we go ProFlavor->Alch->Mew then?
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Post Post #3116 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:57 pm

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yea
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Post Post #3117 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:58 pm

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Please do read D1 votes tho - I'm still disturbed about Alch putting ProFlavor at L-2 and not removing his vote when ProFlavor was the major counterwagon to Shoshin. :$
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Post Post #3118 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:08 am

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Mewtaph, help me see how a ProFlavor-Alchemist team is viable here, given all the interactions between their slots. Because I'm not able to see that as a likely scumteam.
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Post Post #3119 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:12 am

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I don't even really remember that ProFlavor was a lynch candidate at all on D1. It was early enough in the day where scum is probably glad to be wagoned because the attention will likely shift off of them by the end of the day. It lasted for a couple pages STW-ProFlavor until Varsoon started rallying votes against STW.
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Post Post #3120 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:13 am

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Both were at L-2 with Alch's being the latest vote. Had Varsoon not fake-guiltied STW, there were good chances ProFlavor would've been the day's lynch.
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Post Post #3121 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:21 am

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One more thing in support of Mew being town, which crossed my mind and Volxen brought it up too: jjh927's Zerg fakeclaim had a Terran equivalent. Mewtaph's role, Zerg Viper with drag (which is the "abduct" ability from a quick web search) seems to have no Terran counterpart - both from my searches and Volxen's own knowledge of StarCraft. The implication is that Mew's claim is legit; not a fakeclaim.

While I want to believe this argument, I don't think the mod would assign roles which could be flavor gamed; however, if the hypothesis is wrong, then what IS a good Terran equivalent? I'd especially like to hear Varsoon's opinion on this.
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Post Post #3122 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:44 am

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In post 3091, Michael Scott wrote:@Firebringer, Varsoon: Pintu is the highest priority read right now. Can you solidify your read on that slot, beyond "gut"?
Dude makes me uncomfortable but that's about it.
I don't recall how I was reading him before.
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Post Post #3123 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:56 am

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And your take on 3121?
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Post Post #3124 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:14 am

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Dunno, didn't play much Starcraft 2.
Terran do have ghosts that can lock down a target, but it doesn't work on biological targets so /shrugs
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