Prey Mafia - Game Over

[Varsoon]

By the same right, though, scum can just hold off on voting for any town player because they will be implicated by the flip so they'd look way better if it was all town mislynching and, more likely, town just can't get a lynch.
So I really don't like people who have pretty much ghosted and haven't been using their vote. Willingness to vote reads more likely town than scum to me, except if those votes are on scum that's inevitably going to get lynched, ie: a bus.

P-EDIT:
@Skitter: I think it's probably 60% likely he's scum being bussed and 40% likely that he's town with scum on his wagon; 90% likely scum is voting for Persivul right now and if they aren't, very much so if Persivul does get lynched.

It'll be really obvious why I can't vote once I do get my vote back.


P-EDIT:
@Chara: I believe you more. It's harder for me to follow Skitter.

[Varsoon]

I guess I should say 'It should be really obvious why I decided not to vote once I do get my vote back'.

[Chara]

i'm aware i'm not voting Percy. didn't feel the need when resolving Fish wss central.

[Chara]

P-EDIT:
@Chara: I believe you more. It's harder for me to follow Skitter.

why? am i townier now? is she less?

[Chara]

at some point does the idea of scum avoiding town wagons loop around to scum aggressively pushing town wagons
mafia isn't real.

[implosion]

at some point does the idea of scum avoiding town wagons loop around to scum aggressively pushing town wagons
mafia isn't real.

yes and yes respectively

[skitter30]

By the same right, though, scum can just hold off on voting for any town player because they will be implicated by the flip so they'd look way better if it was all town mislynching and, more likely, town just can't get a lynch.

eh i really really hope we don't end up with a no-lynch today
i kinda think scum would hop on a townie wagon today honestly; i dont' think they would specifically try to make a lynch *not* happen if a townie wagon is building

[skitter30]

@Chara: I believe you more. It's harder for me to follow Skitter.

ok, what parts of what i've been saying are hard for you to follow?

[implosion]

i think this town demonstrated its ability to get off its ass at deadline decently at eod yesterday.

[Varsoon]

@Chara: I'd put you above her right now, yeah.

@Skitter: I just don't get your positions. Like how does your read on mcqueen 'vanish'? I'm still townreading Elbirn from D1 despite Elbirn basically ghosting, too.

[skitter30]

idk
it was a townread but it's just been weakening and he hasn't been around to maintain it

idk how else to explain that really honestly; sometimes i have reads that are strong at one point but if they stop behaving in that townie way i lose the read

[skitter30]

have you like never had a read like that?

[Varsoon]

Then what was the 'turn' and what originally read as townie to you?
'cus to me it seems like the 'turn' was just him not being active D2 (and I've even tried to propose how that might be alignment indicative) but I still don't know why you were townreading the slot.

I've had reads like that but I can usually point to places where reads developed or where I changed my mind, y'know? Usually, at least. Sometimes, though, yeah, my reads are ineffable/hard to express, but I at least try to be open about them.

[Elbirn]

My problem with those two (elbirn especially) is that I don't really know what their scumranges are like. Like I feel like things like the way Elbirn is acting around BEF is townish but very reasonably within the realm of something competent scum can do and I don't know how good he actually is as scum. I feel vaguely better about Chara but I'm not sure I can put my finger strongly on why. Even though I remember seeing them have some scumgame where they went very deep.

I'm great as scum but I never roll it. It's a statistical anomaly so strong that you're better off assuming I'm always town.

Do you have reasons for thinking I could be scum? I dont do very well with wishywashy "hes townie but I dunno" and I'm a big fan of people committing to stances.

[implosion]

committing to stances is dumb.

The reason is the patented There Are Quite A Few People In This Game That Look Like Town. I feel some degree of town on everyone but varsoon, persivul, a50. Granted, that is few enough people that I might be right on everyone. But I just generally don't feel great about most of my reads except for like, mcqueen, BEF. I feel like I might even be wrong on skitter though it would surprise me.

You've had posts this game that have felt kind of like,, townish but the kind of thing that very good scum might explicitly go out of their way to do, which is why I feel like how good you are as scum is a factor. Most of this is tonal, things like the way you presented your initial reads list and even a bunch of small posts like e.g. 1030. It generally feels tonally town if it's some random player making those posts, and there's a consistent way that you feel like you're approaching the game, but that approach is something scum can fake.

Basically you're probably town and I'm paranoid.

[Persivul]

By the same right, though, scum can just hold off on voting for any town player because they will be implicated by the flip so they'd look way better if it was all town mislynching and, more likely, town just can't get a lynch.
So I really don't like people who have pretty much ghosted and haven't been using their vote. Willingness to vote reads more likely town than scum to me, except if those votes are on scum that's inevitably going to get lynched, ie: a bus.

Says the guy who gave up his vote.

It'll be really obvious why I can't vote once I do get my vote back.

I can explain it...later.

It's another fish.

[Varsoon]

Only fish here is you--rolefishing.

[BrightEyedFish]

Can anyone explain exactly what a motivator is? I thought it would be like a reload for another players x-shot role, but the wiki says it enables a player to do two actions in one night. This is only possibly useful on a player who has two night actions and that just seems bizarre to me

According to my role PM, if I motivate someone it will give them the multitasking ability and will be permanent.

[Chara]

so it's very useful to motivate.... scum. who can't multitask normally.

[Chara]

i can't see a good reason to use that.

[BrightEyedFish]

so it's very useful to motivate.... scum. who can't multitask normally.

That is why I was having trouble TRing people on D1. I knew that I could really give scum a leg up if I chose wrong and targeted one of them and was being very critical of my reads.

[Chara]

so did you target anyone day 1?

[BrightEyedFish]

so did you target anyone day 1?

No. I wanted to wait for a flip/nk to try and make associations before I used it today.

[Papa Zito]

I still don't feel comfortable outing my target as it will not help town atm.

Please explain this in depth.

Still waiting on this.

I still think mcqueen is like, strong town just from yesterday.

You've said this a few times I think. Can you explain what's so strongly town about McQueen?

[skitter30]

Can anyone explain exactly what a motivator is? I thought it would be like a reload for another players x-shot role, but the wiki says it enables a player to do two actions in one night. This is only possibly useful on a player who has two night actions and that just seems bizarre to me

According to my role PM, if I motivate someone it will give them the multitasking ability and will be permanent.

@mod

:
suppose a scum pr (say, a rolecop) gets motivated. would they then be able to do their personal ability (ie rolecop someone) and a factional ability (ie kill someone) on the same night?