Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!

[pinturicchio]

that seems a pretty obvious deduction to me

Look at the wording on 3076, he said twice that jjh's fakeclaim was Zerg Hatchery. He said it like it was a fact, not a deduction made by him.

so what if he said it like it was a fact?

It almost assuredly is a fact and i would bet a million dollars that Krazy gave jjh the fake claim "Zerg Hatchery"

Even if it's 99.999999999% possible that that's his fakeclaim name, it's not a fact if you're town.

jjh said he was a drone and he even softclaimed drone on D1 at EoD, so why go with Zerg Hatchery when jjh was using "drone" as a key word?

[Firebringer]

that seems a pretty obvious deduction to me

Look at the wording on 3076, he said twice that jjh's fakeclaim was Zerg Hatchery. He said it like it was a fact, not a deduction made by him.

so what if he said it like it was a fact?

It almost assuredly is a fact and i would bet a million dollars that Krazy gave jjh the fake claim "Zerg Hatchery"

Even if it's 99.999999999% possible that that's his fakeclaim name, it's not a fact if you're town.

jjh said he was a drone and he even softclaimed drone on D1 at EoD, so why go with Zerg Hatchery when jjh was using "drone" as a key word?

anyone who plays sc2 would make these leaps of deduction. this is not a slip. this is about someone who knew how the game works.

drones turn into zerg hatcheries. LIke do you play the game?

[pinturicchio]

"OMG HE KNEW THE FAKE CLAIM OF THIS PERSON!"
yeah...the person fake claimed it.

"BUT HE KNEW THAT WAS THE REAL FAKE CLAIM HE GOT LIKE HE ACTUALLY GOT IT"

yeah...he probably did get it. I doubt that was really just made up by jjh.

I don't even understand what kind of shit ur going for here.

Again, I'm talking about the exact name of the fakeclaim. "probably did get it" yes, I'm not doubting that. Saying it like a fact is what makes it a slip.

pedit: one more time: leap of deduction = perfectly fine. He didn't say it like it was a leap of deduction, he said it like a fact as if jjh's fakeclaim was posted by Krazy.

I know absolutely nothing about Starcraft, but I don't think that has something to do with MS's wording on the fakeclaim.

[Michael Scott]

That's quite reachy - if something looks obvious enough, of course we'd say it like a fact.

[Firebringer]

Drones turn into Zerg Hatcheries.
They turn into buildings that are the bases for games. The terran equivalent is a command center which JJh was.

He fake claimed Drone apparently that could build shit later. Kind of implied Hatchery to an extent if i am not mistaken if he never even said that.

[Firebringer]

Go on then-

I was a drone who had to choose a place to build a hatchery N1, and I wanted #7 but apparently was put in #8. Can't move after that.

Now I'm a building and a bulletproof one at that.


So yeah I can't really say I figured out Varsoon's role with just my role PM proficiency. I have crumbed pretty much everything in my role.



Can we not popcorn it? I want Brass next

He says hatchery in this god damn post.

[pinturicchio]

I know, I quoted that. He said "to build a hatchery", never said explicitly "Zerg Hatchery", like AC did with their claim which was the exact wording. That's what I mean.

[Firebringer]

the only type of hatchery is a Zerg Hatchery you dingus.

[Michael Scott]

Lol, and you do realize all the town players here are Zerg/Zerglings, right? Whereas scum aren't, they're all Terrans probably.

[pinturicchio]

Drones turn into Zerg Hatcheries.
They turn into buildings that are the bases for games. The terran equivalent is a command center which JJh was.

He fake claimed Drone apparently that could build shit later. Kind of implied Hatchery to an extent if i am not mistaken if he never even said that.

Just Wikipedia'd Drones and they're a ground unit by itself too; why not deduce "Zerg Drone" instead of "Zerg Hatchery"? I mean, you can deduce whichever, but say it as a fact?

[pinturicchio]

the only type of hatchery is a Zerg Hatchery you dingus.

Not my point, read my last post.

[Michael Scott]

Just Wikipedia'd Drones and they're a ground unit by itself too; why not deduce "Zerg Drone" instead of "Zerg Hatchery"? I mean, you can deduce whichever, but say it as a fact?

They're equivalent. Saying "his fakeclaim was Zerg drone" is the same as "his fakeclaim was Zerg Hatchery", but hatchery is what he turns into, so it makes sense to call it "Zerg Hatchery"

[Mewtaph]

jjh927 claimed a building. A drone is not a building. A hatchery is a building. Zerg + Hatchery = Zerg Hatchery. Done.

[Firebringer]

this whole slip would make more sense if michael scott said jjh fake claim was something like an evolution chamber or something.

[Firebringer]

this whole "slip" would make more sense if michael scott said jjh fake claim was something like an evolution chamber or something.

need to put quotes around slip

[pinturicchio]

Just Wikipedia'd Drones and they're a ground unit by itself too; why not deduce "Zerg Drone" instead of "Zerg Hatchery"? I mean, you can deduce whichever, but say it as a fact?

They're equivalent. Saying "his fakeclaim was Zerg drone" is the same as "his fakeclaim was Zerg Hatchery", but hatchery is what he turns into, so it makes sense to call it "Zerg Hatchery"

But you said "Zerg Hatchery" as it was a fact. Paraphrasing, you basically said "his fakeclaim was Zerg Hatchery", like it was something known in the thread. That's my point, they're equivalent, it could be any of those names, but you used one as a fact. I'm not saying it's a bad assumption, I'm saying it IS an assumption and you didn't say it like it is.

[Firebringer]

pintu explain to me what is a more reasonable assumption to make here.

someone knows the flavor well enough to make a reasonable assumption and assume it is a fact when posting.
or that person gives out information we aren't privy to by not differentiating between assumptions vs factual statements.

[pinturicchio]

pintu explain to me what is a more reasonable assumption to make here.

someone knows the flavor well enough to make a reasonable assumption and assume it is a fact when posting.
or that person gives out information we aren't privy to by not differentiating between assumptions vs factual statements.

If you say it like that I will look like and idiot if I say the second one.





So the second one. If he would've said something like "it's pretty obvious he was a Zerg Hatchery" or "we can assume he was a Zerg Hatchery" this whole thing would be useless. But he said "he was a Zerg Hatchery". I know I look like the CRAZY CONSPIRACY GUY WHO SEES SCUMSLIPS EVERYWHERE but I'm not like that.

[Michael Scott]

But he *was* a Zerg Hatchery.

[pinturicchio]

But he *was* a Zerg Hatchery.

And he *was* a Zerg Drone too. C'mon give me a break you guys are giving me less credit that I deserve, I'm not being daft am I????

[Michael Scott]

I mean his (fake) claim*

[Firebringer]

I don't know man. I just don't see ur position being a reasonable assumption here. It is such a stretch it is like those people who see illuminati propoganda in disney movies.

[pinturicchio]

And I'm telling you, I don't believe in any shit like that; I'm known to do tinfoil hat theories ingame all the time but I usually reasess and explicitly say that they're tinfoilly. This is NOT like that.

[Firebringer]

if anything it seems to me that jjh fucked up his fake claim here because theres nothing about an scv in that role pm. Not sure why a fake claim would have a mention of a drone if the real role doesn't have a scv. but i am done talking about this.

[pinturicchio]

@Varsoon, ProFLavor and Alchemist: I want your opinion in this too.