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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:40 am

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In post 1844, Ankamius wrote:Nancy what do your reads look like now
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:43 am

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Ok

What are the optional pairings do you think
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:44 am

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In post 1849, Vedith wrote:It's NAI. Either align can do it. As town or Scum they can be legit angry or faking the emotion.
I agree with you at a basic level. I just think the extent of this makes it more likely town than not.
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 1851, Ankamius wrote:Ok

What are the optional pairings do you think
For me: Dann/Krazy/RC would be ideal, maybe Urist, if he becomes townier?

I think whichever 3 of those I don’t partner with, should ideally go to you, Taly, PB or Alisae.

However, that still leaves 1 of you unpartnered. So, I think maybe DT? If it wasn’t for our disastrous pairing in MU Lovers’ game, I would seriously consider him but we clashed in that - not anywhere as much as I’d probably clash with Moment, however.

I had Gamma previously much higher on my list but I can’t move her up until she A) explains her reasoning for how this setup is more beneficial to town than the previous one. B) Why she mentioned you specifically, in her scumread on me. C) I need to see more of her reads.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:17 am

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Interesting.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:17 am

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In post 1729, Ankamius wrote:So yeah

I am starting to think it's better to have 2 ladies sit out than to deal with risking vedith being scum or a yolobomber

It cuts the first dance still, but it is a lot less risk and it's easier to plan around than just no lynching and trying to solve the game with the 4 extra players since we can force a large group of scummy and useless players to leave
Just read this through skimming

Giving this a very hard no.

This is a beneficial plan to scum on multiple levels, and I don't know how having multiple people die Pre-Dance connects to
Vedith's
voting accountability?

If it did, then why is
Vedith
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Ank
, if you're unable to articulate reads and analyze until this weekend, why are you posting?

It makes any apathy you've stated to have seem forced.

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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:18 am

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It's because I'm engaged with the game on a surface level but I don't have the time to go deep analyze the game because my schedule makes it really awkward to.
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:23 am

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...I'm a bit confident that, if you spent as much time analyzing than continually having conversations with 5-6 people, you'd have more concise content to show.

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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:25 am

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Not the way I do it, no. Trying to do it the way I do it is hideously slow without a desktop and I've had trouble sitting at mine for long enough to get through it enough to have results.
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:31 am

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At the moment, it looks like you're putting more emphasis on convincing people of your viewpoints rather than assessing the validity and reasons behind them.

1)
Are you going to reply to my response to your ?

2)
Do you have reads on more than 4 people?

3)
Is there anyone you think is a good option to pair with yourself? Even if it's just a small gut thought?
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:36 am

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In post 1853, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1851, Ankamius wrote:Ok

What are the optional pairings do you think
For me: Dann/Krazy/RC would be ideal, maybe Urist, if he becomes townier?

I think whichever 3 of those I don’t partner with, should ideally go to you, Taly, PB or Alisae.
Ank
is a lady and couldn't pair with
PB, Ali
or myself.

Plus,
Ank
is not nearly as high on my town list as she is with you; so can you explain your read there?
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:40 am

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In post 1779, Taly wrote:Why is my sentiment a reason you want to dance with me? And think that we mesh well?
I don't feel like you are attempting to pocket me at this point; you feel like you are more interested in sorting me correctly.

Haven't caught up in this thread yet
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:43 am

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In post 1860, Taly wrote:
In post 1853, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 1851, Ankamius wrote:Ok

What are the optional pairings do you think
For me: Dann/Krazy/RC would be ideal, maybe Urist, if he becomes townier?

I think whichever 3 of those I don’t partner with, should ideally go to you, Taly, PB or Alisae.
Ank
is a lady and couldn't pair with
PB, Ali
or myself.

Plus,
Ank
is not nearly as high on my town list as she is with you; so can you explain your read there?
No, no, you misunderstood my post. I wasn’t suggesting that Ank, you, PB and Ali pair up. :lol:

I was saying that whomever of Dann/Krazy/RC/DT/Urist I don’t pair up with. IOW, I think that these are probably the best gents for me and my townreads to pair up with atm. I’m actually more null on Moment rn but I just had other people higher than her, on my list.

It’s a tonal thing with Ank. She comes off as very sincere to me but unless you were more familiar with her meta, you probably wouldn’t see it.
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:45 am

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upon some thought and reflection

I trust
Vedith
with 8 votes more than half of the other gents.

p-edit

Krazy wrote:
In post 1779, Taly wrote:Why is my sentiment a reason you want to dance with me? And think that we mesh well?
I don't feel like you are attempting to pocket me at this point; you feel like you are more interested in sorting me correctly.

Haven't caught up in this thread yet
Ironically enough... This response makes me think you're trying to sort me correctly and not pocket me :) Alongside your
"I didn't expect
Taly
to immediately accept"
or you said a phrase similar to this when I skimmed.

~

I haven't declined your dance proposal, but I've thought about waiting until tomorrow or Sunday to give an answer; as people are holding off until then, and I want people to at least be on the same page but still NOT waiting for the last minute/last 2 days.

Reminder that deadline is February 14th to my understanding.
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:48 am

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Take your time... we'll see if my heart can wait that long ;)

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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:54 am

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In post 1862, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:No, no, you misunderstood my post. I wasn’t suggesting that Ank, you, PB and Ali pair up.

I was saying that whomever of Dann/Krazy/RC/DT/Urist I don’t pair up with. IOW, I think that these are probably the best gents for me and my townreads to pair up with atm. I’m actually more null on Moment rn but I just had other people higher than her, on my list.

It’s a tonal thing with Ank. She comes off as very sincere to me but unless you were more familiar with her meta, you probably wouldn’t see it.
still not feeling the confident
Ank
townread but I can see where you're coming from.

:/ I'm still a little paranoid about being pocketed or manipulated...
Ank
telling me
Krazy
was not a good pair and strengthening her scumread there while
DoubtingThomas
asked me to dance did not give me a good feeling.

Mostly because of the timing there, though, not because of my read on either of them prior.

But that's why I shut down a little around and

x-x All of my ended games from 2018 to 2019 have told me I'm... a bit easy to pocket or I townread someone too quickly.

It's why I'd much rather NOT claim my coin value right now, as I want people to partner with me if, and only if, they actually want to work with me.
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 1864, Krazy wrote:Take your time... we'll see if my heart can wait that long ;)

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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:01 am

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Mechanically I think pairing Drew is optimal rn
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:01 am

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But I'm still probably not going to :P
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:01 am

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non-game fun post

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this game so far has made me want to hydra with you more lol <3
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<3 as long as our hearts are still merged
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:02 am

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In post 1867, RadiantCowbells wrote:Mechanically I think pairing Drew is optimal rn
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:22 am

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OK only 5 pages this morning not too bad
In post 1775, Gamma Emerald wrote:That was supposed to say "gj guys" but tbh I'm kinda whatever on pairing rn. I've got 6 coins though so I'll be a little choosy.
I mean I guess we still don't have cohesion on whether we're no lynching, speed lynching, or doing what in dance 1 so I guess you might want to pick someone that will go with town choices from pre-dance. I would prefer that you townread them given I'm leaning town on you.
In post 1783, RadiantCowbells wrote:This version of the setup favors scum a lot more than the old one
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:23 am

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In post 1823, Dr Worm wrote:DR WORM must EXIT the game before INTERMISION!!
Interesting. In that case who is your top female scumread (after Nancy)?
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:29 am

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I'm not entirely opposed to Nancy/RC

I feel like the post count is sorta keeping up but the rate of interesting things being said has started to slow down

I need more from Allo, Pvt, Alisae, Moment, {RC, but more because I want to see more of his reads}, and I think I need to reread Pink Ball sometime later today

I feel like I've asked for literally anyone to explain their townreads of DT and I don't think I've heard it yet? I'm not even scumcasing him, he's just the lowest of my nulls with a few minor pings and I'm trying to see what other people like about the slot
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 1771, TheBrie wrote:I might be onboard if enough people think it's a good idea. I'm not convinced of Vedith being scum, but I'll believe those who say he can't be relied on to use his lynch power well. I'm glad I don't have anything like that.
Given that one gentlemen is leaving the dance already, do you have a preference for who should be excluded from the dance in pre-dance, and is there a second gentlemen that you scumread strongly enough that you would refrain from joining the dance to ensure his exclusion?
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