I feel ya there Urist. I replaced out of my last Newbie game (where I was also ironically scum) for the same reason of illness. In much the same way, people asked around for a while saying "did he just quit due to pressure to force a reset?", but nope, it was all legit. Suspicion just comes from that sort of replace-out in general.
Funny thing is that RCE kept nagging at me in the back of my head. That should've been a sign, that I wasn't focusing properly, but hey we all make mistakes like this when things get down to the wire. This game in particular seemed full of mistakes in general, but at least that helps me sort out my weaknesses.
Great play by everyone, I think. I'm sorry I was so mean to you, Magik, I think in another life we would have been friends. This definitely didn't feel like a newbie in any way.
tbf I think you would have caught us if PVT hadnt popped his vote on me and gone afk, then I made a scene and we were instantly distanced, because he was afk I genuinely planned on lynching his slot D2/3 if he didnt return, but his replacement is a cool guys so I decided not to.
In post 1501, Enter wrote:Great play by everyone, I think. I'm sorry I was so mean to you, Magik, I think in another life we would have been friends. This definitely didn't feel like a newbie in any way.
You can say that again. This felt like a far more experienced game than anything that would otherwise be in the Newbie queue. The fact that I replaced into a Newbie slot as an SE-capable player probably didn't help with that, but even then those that were "newbies" played really well all things considered.
Skellen
in particular gets a hearty nod of approval from me for forcing the scum to kill them by being so universally townread and difficult for the scum to work with. Mad props to you.
I honestly think you and Muh were mostly scumreading my playstyle over anything else though to be honest, because I'm both extremely vocal and a bit of a white knight as Vanilla Town. Hard to say how I am as a PR or as scum to offer an alternative though, since the only scumgames I have here to offer are a Marathon game and an incomplete game where I replaced out early due to illness (as mentioned above). Only PR I've ever gotten was a Doctor that could only heal scum and was therefore just a Named Townie, which was a pretty unfortunate role to begin with.
In post 1493, MagikHorse wrote:Even then he real killer here was the nolynch. I was hoping Nauci would let it happen since Enter had recently voted them and he was clearly town's lynch for the day, but alas we were defeated by 6 minutes. Mistakes happen, hence why I was unwilling to press on Munch for her IRL reasons, but I'm still a little disappointed in that. Tough call from Nauci though, and I respect that. Had it happened, I likely would've had to reconsider everything I thought.
Heh I ended up consulting with Penguin and 2 other experienced moderators before I made the decision.
In post 1494, Enter wrote:I feel really dumb. I pushed Thespio day 2 because I thought he was a PR and I wanted to save him from a NK. And then munch pushed too and I was like "ha, she's scum cuz she's pushing someone other than the two people on the table today."
No need to feel bad, at Day 2 I thought for a while RCE was a tracker and thus went soft on him and harder against the wrong person until I dismissed it after some exchange with RCE. It's kind of awkward to handle when a suspicous person looks like a PR.
Realized at Day 2 I was the only newbie with Munch left. Hah, of all games to join I choose the one with the "hard" difficulty so kind of good to see everybody seeing it as an unusual newbie game. At least there is a lot to take from.
In post 1493, MagikHorse wrote:Even then he real killer here was the nolynch. I was hoping Nauci would let it happen since Enter had recently voted them and he was clearly town's lynch for the day, but alas we were defeated by 6 minutes. Mistakes happen, hence why I was unwilling to press on Munch for her IRL reasons, but I'm still a little disappointed in that. Tough call from Nauci though, and I respect that. Had it happened, I likely would've had to reconsider everything I thought.
Heh I ended up consulting with Penguin and 2 other experienced moderators before I made the decision.
I know. It's really not an easy decision to make, but sometimes deadlines have to be enforced even when the lynch is obvious. I don't fault you whatsoever for that call.
Skellen played very well and I'd be interested to see how she handles rolling scum. I think she could be dangerous. Since I've joined I've run into a lot of newbies with scary good town games.
Munch, I think you should be more confident in your reads when you have them. Even if you're wrong, being more forceful about your views provokes more alignment indicative reactions.
Yes, don't be afraid to be wrong. Town is generally punching around in the dark until they smack into something. That's kind of my advice for playing scum as well. I think my first scum game I was afraid Everytime I posted, I just had that paranoid "everyone knows" kind of mentality.
Being scumread isn't that bad as long as you can make someone else look scummier.
In post 1511, Nauci wrote:Munchmellow is really good at townposting.
Munch, I think you should be more confident in your reads when you have them. Even if you're wrong, being more forceful about your views provokes more alignment indicative reactions.
I was thinking this as well. The only reason people acupressure you was PoE? That's pretty solid.
It shouldn't have even been that, like I had to just manufacture some bs against Munch to keep her from being yet another universal townread and stick to it.
Skellen you were spot on I was originally intending to claim tracker with a guilty on munch.
I was moreso trying to emphasize Loopdans observation on scum apathy in relation to the wagons at the time but no one bit on it. Plus only munch muh and elements were mislynchable day 1 and I had to start a push to go into day 2 with.