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Post Post #4295  (isolation #0)  » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:39 pm

I can see I saved soooo much time by skipping out of this place over the 2016 election cycle

*pats self on back*

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Post Post #4302  (isolation #1)  » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:48 pm

I absolutely love how this shit never happened

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Post Post #4358  (isolation #2)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:33 am

In post 4332, T S O wrote:I think there was a distinct arrogance in Clinton campaigning at all in Arizona and she would have done far better to consolidate.
She's campaigning in Arizona in an attempt to get McWalnuts out of the Senate

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Post Post #4359  (isolation #3)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:36 am

In post 4348, AxleGreaser wrote:Donating to Trump Foundation == donating to Trump (he self deals from the foundation)
They aren't even donations. He instructs people to provide payments due to him to his foundation so he can avoid paying taxes on his slush fund

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Post Post #4363  (isolation #4)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:10 pm

In post 4362, AxleGreaser wrote:
In post 4359, shaft.ed wrote:He instructs people to provide payments

In law there are points to be proven did you see evidence of "instructs" or "directs" I know its obviously what happened, trump isnt that nuanced he seems or
pretends to be unaware of the problem of paying his own legal settlements with the fund.

If the above is not a flat out lie,
Its incongruous that he would have been careful enough with not seeking or directing payments into it.

There are certainly people on record stating as such in various articles. As far as I know, only NY AG is pursuing in court, so we'll find out how it stacks up legally. He's already bought his way out of FL and TX investigations, ironically enough with Trump Foundation money.

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Post Post #4368  (isolation #5)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:36 pm

This problem with the Clinton Foundation quid pro quo theory is that the foundation actually spends its money helping people. It's a really highly rated charity. So even if there were some dependency of kickbacks for Sec State help (which hasn't been demonstrated) what's the point? What does she get out of it aside from advancing the benefit to the receivers of the charity?

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Post Post #4370  (isolation #6)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:56 pm

In post 4369, zoraster wrote:So if you're wondering why you don't hear more about the Trump trial thing from the mainstream media or the Clinton campaign, here's a primer on why: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/ ... allegation

Basically unlike the many allegations against Trump that seem very credible, this one has a number of circumstances that seem pretty off.
well then it's a good thing the media isn't wasting time making shit up so they can focus on what really matters
EMAILS!!!!!

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Post Post #4378  (isolation #7)  » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:26 pm

In post 4371, AxleGreaser wrote:Chamber did advance this paper thin claim of benefit to Clinton.
In post 4353, chamber wrote:I'm claiming she benefited by being able to employ her campaign staff before the actual campaign started because she had everyone ready to go, rather than having to rebuild a team.


but i have no number of how many staff that might apply to or if it could in reasonable sense be advanced as the kind of benefit you could corrupt a Secretary of State with. It seems kind of fanciful to be polite about it.

also assumeS they did no foundation work and there wouldnt have been funding atherwise

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Post Post #4421  (isolation #8)  » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:27 am

In post 4392, karnos wrote:BTW, ignoring the human side, how do you think Hillary ability to enact policy is affected by her alcoholism? Even ignoring her obviously broken sense of morals, there is huge potential for terrible missteps to occur when an inebriated Hillary is forced to make important decisions.

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Post Post #4424  (isolation #9)  » Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:35 am

the hilarious thing is there is far more evidence that Trump snorts coke
I mean I'm not saying he does, but I've heard it. Some people are definitely saying Trump snorts coke. We should look into that.

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Post Post #4434  (isolation #10)  » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:13 am

In post 4433, chamber wrote:payed plants

sounds like those would be hallucinogenic

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Post Post #4470  (isolation #11)  » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:58 pm

it's also classic Rovian deflection where you accuse your opponent of what youre doing

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Post Post #4490  (isolation #12)  » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:02 pm

In post 4485, Albert B. Rampage wrote:You gonna pick someone bankrolled by wall street
yes I'm sure Trump has no interest in making sure the oligarchy stays in place

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Post Post #4846  (isolation #13)  » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:51 pm

In post 4827, Fluminator wrote:I actually do genuinely believe that the tensions are at an all time high (talking to people older than me.)
I wouldn't be suprised if some riots happen.
you do know actual political riots were a thing. A rather common one.
Oh and the KKK showing up at polling locations and etc etc.

It is not the end times.

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Post Post #4871  (isolation #14)  » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:22 pm

In post 4866, Zachstralkita wrote:I would be quite giddy if Trump intercepted a bullet. I've never seen a man enable such ignorance, stupidity, and hatred before.
much better to let lose than make him a martyr for others to look up to

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Post Post #5181  (isolation #15)  » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:45 am

In post 5166, karnos wrote:Sorry Hillary fans, I spoke with a friend in Australia and he said Trump already won. With the time difference, the election is already done and over in Australian time, they already have the final results

Well I'm sorry Australia is the one getting fucked, but at least we dodged a bullet here then

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Post Post #5183  (isolation #16)  » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:46 am

In post 5150, Shaziro wrote:Say you manage to force one human person to spend their entire life up until your death to live in a vacuum
if you have discovered a way for humans to survive in a vacuum, you might have some big breakthroughs in regards to space exploration

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Post Post #7309  (isolation #17)  » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:05 pm

In post 7307, GreyICE wrote:David Clarke

has anyone brought up the hypocrisy of the Steve Mnuchin nomination yet?

I don't have enough free time to bother with this thread

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Post Post #7314  (isolation #18)  » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:24 pm

In post 7313, Accountant wrote:Hillary does not want to go to war with Russia

or have a massive email scandal
or cheat anyone out of the Republic nomination

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Post Post #7325  (isolation #19)  » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:01 pm

In post 7320, Sesq wrote:2. It wasn't that she was hiding emails, it's that she was hiding things from the rest of the government, and it revealed the other things I said to be true. Shes the most corrupt politician I've ever seen, and definitely the most as of late (in a major position, some smaller ones may be more corrupt but matter less)
Yes how dare she delete emails who would do a thing like that?

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Post Post #7350  (isolation #20)  » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:34 am

In post 7333, Sesq wrote:
In post 7325, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 7320, Sesq wrote:2. It wasn't that she was hiding emails, it's that she was hiding things from the rest of the government, and it revealed the other things I said to be true. Shes the most corrupt politician I've ever seen, and definitely the most as of late (in a major position, some smaller ones may be more corrupt but matter less)
Yes how dare she delete emails who would do a thing like that?


As if I don't hate him just as much as I do hillary

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Post Post #7434  (isolation #21)  » Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:23 am

not to mention stimulus package was so tax cut heavy because it was the only way to get such a bill through Congress. Original proposal was much heavier on infrastructure spending and lighter on tax cuts. But there was a Dem in the WH so deficits suddenly mattered again.

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Post Post #7561  (isolation #22)  » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:55 pm

In post 7506, karnos wrote:
In post 7503, Showtime wrote:
Trump has no plan when it comes to foreign policy.

Trump has never had a plan when it comes to foreign policy, because he does not understand it.

"Build that wall" does not and will never constitute a plan, no matter how many fanboys mindlessly chant it at his rallies.

Trump is simply an idiot.


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Trump's opponents truly never get tired of being wrong.

So why do you appear to be proud of all the things on this list?

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Post Post #7570  (isolation #23)  » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:42 pm

In post 7558, theplague42 wrote:Oh yeah doesn't Petraeus still have to report to his parole officer
he was just loose with state secrets. It's not like anyone cares about that kind of stuff.

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Post Post #7579  (isolation #24)  » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:04 pm

which Sanders also said he received

and she didnt get the answer she got the question

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Post Post #9465  (isolation #25)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:33 pm

In post 9409, pisskop wrote:Its Trumps fault that black people are attacking white people

Funny I remember the same shit coming from the Media, but then it was Obama's fault
they said it on air

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Post Post #9570  (isolation #26)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:21 am

In post 9568, pisskop wrote:better question: why is money being spent on finding this inherit advantage, should it exist, instead of curing AIDs or Cancer or helping the poor.
And we have a deflection!

ok who predicted deflection?
you win all the prizes!

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Post Post #9572  (isolation #27)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:25 am

so why did you try to avoid the question?

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Post Post #9574  (isolation #28)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:28 am

In post 9573, pisskop wrote:I asked why it matters more than actual life threatening issues present within our own country.
I asked why your pedantic studies mattered more than actual disparity of opportunity via income.

In response to a very straightforward question you ducked and dodged

And no I'm not taking the bait the second time, although I'd be happy to discuss such issues once the previously stated question is answered

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Post Post #9576  (isolation #29)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:29 am

In post 9542, Psyche wrote:when a white person commits a crime, their arrest is less likely to receive negative media coverage than when a black person commits a crime and is arrested
do you deny that this is true?
do you deny that this is bad if it is true?
why? to any of your yeses
it's very simple
I mean aside from why, all you have to do is say yes or no
not hard

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Post Post #9590  (isolation #30)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:05 am

In post 9588, pisskop wrote:Problem: People are racist
Reason: Their subculture breeds it
Solution: Pretend it doesn't exist
fify!

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Post Post #9597  (isolation #31)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:23 am

I'm still laughing about the piles of money being sent to the Sociological Industrial Complex

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Post Post #9618  (isolation #32)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:39 pm

In post 9617, ɀefiend wrote:But if black people are experiencing inequity and we CANNOT identify the laws and provisions infringing on their rights, we SHOULD NOT alleviate the inequity by infringing on the rights of others.

p sure they've been largely identified, and there isn't any need to infringe on other's rights so...
not sure what you're getting at

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Post Post #9721  (isolation #33)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:12 pm

In post 9719, Kublai Khan wrote:I don't understand what you're arguing.
none of us do
not sure if he does

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Post Post #9722  (isolation #34)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:12 pm

In post 9710, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 9706, Accountant wrote:
In post 9704, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Wtf does this have to do with gun control. Every mentally able adult should have the right to bear arms. I can't understand the gun control arguments.

99% of "rights" are just things people feel entitled to for no reason


On a hierarchy, the right to defend yourself ranks higher than the right to universal healthcare.

what about my right not to get shot?

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Post Post #9724  (isolation #35)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:14 pm

In post 9695, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 9691, karnos wrote:
In post 9690, Untrod Tripod wrote:what if the poisoned m&m killed white supremacists alt-right people?


What do you mean "if"? Here is one situation where it already happened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Orla ... b_shooting
is this an example of when you say something dumb on purpose to "show me" that I'm being dumb?

So the American born shooter was a poisoned M&M

I'm so lost

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Post Post #9725  (isolation #36)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:15 pm

In post 9723, Albert B. Rampage wrote:More people died from smoking, car accidents, alcohol. Guns aren't going anywhere with your weak ass stats.

more people partake in smoking, car accidents and alcohol than guns

And I guess we can get rid of driver's liscenses, insurance, Driver's Ed. and all that shit since people are dying from cars ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post Post #9790  (isolation #37)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:46 am

In post 9727, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Guns in the right hands can save a life. The analogy doesn't hold for that reason.

you do realize gun control doesnt mean repeal the second amendment right?
I'd be perfectly happy if we regulated them exactly as we do cars, how is that changing anything in your scenario of self defense?

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Post Post #9854  (isolation #38)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:58 pm

In post 9798, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 9790, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 9727, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Guns in the right hands can save a life. The analogy doesn't hold for that reason.

you do realize gun control doesnt mean repeal the second amendment right?
I'd be perfectly happy if we regulated them exactly as we do cars, how is that changing anything in your scenario of self defense?


These things tend to creep into stricter and stricter regulations over time, like the frog who doesn't realize he's in boiling water until its too late.
Seriously
do you have any actual examples of Constitutional Amendements disappearing incrementally?

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Post Post #9887  (isolation #39)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:39 pm

In post 9883, Psyche wrote:if reps can really pull that off and not be literally evil, i'd become so much less partisan
what world have you been living in?

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Post Post #9961  (isolation #40)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:52 am

lol
this thread

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Post Post #9966  (isolation #41)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:01 am

yeah we all know how swell a guy Trump is, and he's never ever ever made nasty attacks against people he doesn't like
We really should give him the benefit of the doubt

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Post Post #10007  (isolation #42)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:37 am

In post 9980, karnos wrote:The lying media is why nobody heard about that case with the coat hanger.

Yet you cling to it and insist it can't be wrong, and try to blame others.

yeah I love our MSM
wholeheartedly

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Post Post #10025  (isolation #43)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:26 am

In post 10024, karnos wrote:You guys are inventing this idea that his gesture is some code for retarded
yes inventing it whole cloth
as if noone had ever used such a gesture to indicate retardation before or since

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Post Post #10028  (isolation #44)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:33 am

yes I'm sure Trump never used this gesture before 2004
sure thing!

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Post Post #10061  (isolation #45)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:22 pm

In post 10055, theplague42 wrote:I'm fairly certain Trump doesn't even know what net neutrality is.

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Post Post #10167  (isolation #46)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:01 am

For someone that gives a lot of benefit of the doubt towards rapists, I'm amazed you can't extend the same towards voters

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Post Post #10212  (isolation #47)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:54 pm

In post 10193, karnos wrote:Fun anecdote:

In Virginia I had to show my ID to vote. Hillary won Virgina, not Trump.

QED, voter ID laws favor democrats!

I didn't have to show mine in MA and Hillary won

QED, you don't know what QED means!

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Post Post #10228  (isolation #48)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:25 pm

Voter ID laws only led to a 2-3% reduction in turnout
no biggy

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Post Post #10231  (isolation #49)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:43 pm

In post 10229, karnos wrote:
In post 10228, shaft.ed wrote:Voter ID laws only led to a 2-3% reduction in turnout
no biggy


I wonder what percentage of turnout in non-Voter ID states is fraudulent.

zero if you round to the nearest millionth of a percent

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Post Post #10232  (isolation #50)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:46 pm

In post 10230, karnos wrote:so poor they can't vote.
why should you have to buy something to vote?

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Post Post #10255  (isolation #51)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:38 pm

In post 10233, karnos wrote:
In post 10231, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 10229, karnos wrote:
In post 10228, shaft.ed wrote:Voter ID laws only led to a 2-3% reduction in turnout
no biggy


I wonder what percentage of turnout in non-Voter ID states is fraudulent.

zero if you round to the nearest millionth of a percent


LOL.

You think that fraud is never successful, every single case of attempted voter fraud has been detected and prosecuted.

So you posit that there are more than 1.3 million fraudulent votes cast per year, of which we have only been able to catch one millionth of them, a handful of these being people trying to demonstrate how easy it is to vote fraudulently

got it

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Post Post #10256  (isolation #52)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:40 pm

In post 10234, karnos wrote:
In post 10232, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 10230, karnos wrote:so poor they can't vote.
why should you have to buy something to vote?


Polling station won't let you inside naked. you have to buy clothes to vote. Clothing requirements are racist!

Why should you have to wear clothes to vote?!

so now you're equating the need for clothing with a time/monetary investment that has no other use
good logic there

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Post Post #10258  (isolation #53)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:10 pm

In post 10257, Wraith wrote:To admit Trump or the Republicans might be wrong, is to admit that they are actually the Bad People.

I can make a very long list of everything I found wrong with Hillary Clinton if you really want me to waste my time doing so

I've never once voted for someone I thought was infallible

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Post Post #10272  (isolation #54)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:46 pm

In post 10263, karnos wrote:"A driver's license or ID has no other use except for voting" - shaft.ed

This is the ignorance of a liberal, folks.
I don't own a car
why the hell would I want a driver's liscence?

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Post Post #10278  (isolation #55)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:16 pm

In post 10276, Annadog40 wrote:Or just use Social Security number as voting identification? Would that work?
you don't need to be a citizen to get a SSN

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Post Post #10279  (isolation #56)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:17 pm

Also how would we rule out all the convicted felons?

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Post Post #10284  (isolation #57)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:40 pm

In post 10280, Shaziro wrote:
In post 10279, shaft.ed wrote:Also how would we rule out all the convicted felons?

^A thing I have never understood the argument for^

Not that I think you're arguing for it, but I have never understood why people do.

they're the reason for the War on Drugs (TM)

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Post Post #10295  (isolation #58)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:07 am

In post 10287, Accountant wrote:wait I hate racism and all but what does crack/powder cocaine have to do with race

sometimes i wish i could go back to the naive unspoiled brain i had in my youth

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Post Post #10297  (isolation #59)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:15 am

you forgot that blacks are X times more likely to be arrested and X times more likely to be convicted
etc
etc
etc

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Post Post #10348  (isolation #60)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:46 am

In post 10315, Accountant wrote:
In post 10313, Shaziro wrote:
In post 10312, Postie wrote:
In post 10310, Accountant wrote:That plan is stupid. The hippies and black people will simply not take drugs and then the police are left with egg on their face.

Also unfortunately it's not that simple.

What are you talking about, Postie? Drugs are never addictive! You can just stop taking them! Societal/peer pressure? What's that?

:roll: they will just stop taking the drugs once they realize Nixon has illegalized them
I'm gonna go out on a limb and posit that you've never had a heroin/crack addiction

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Post Post #10349  (isolation #61)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:48 am

In post 10330, Shaziro wrote:The issue is that a drug that is more likely to be used by poor people/ racial and ethnic minorities is being penalized much more.

And when the right people do get caught with it, they can always choose not to enforce it because 'it would destroy their lives' or some of the usual bullshit

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Post Post #10350  (isolation #62)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:50 am

Also don't forget about the metric tons of cocaine being allowed into the US during the Reagan administration as a results of bargains with the Contras in Nicaragua that happened to coincide with his War on Drugs

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Post Post #10354  (isolation #63)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:07 am

In post 10353, Accountant wrote:
In post 10350, shaft.ed wrote:Also don't forget about the metric tons of cocaine being allowed into the US during the Reagan administration as a results of bargains with the Contras in Nicaragua that happened to coincide with his War on Drugs

But then they'd have to arrest themselves lmao

you really have no idea how the world works

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Post Post #10364  (isolation #64)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:54 pm

But it's a good thing the FBI told us all about the emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop, cause that turned out to be HUGE

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Post Post #10380  (isolation #65)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:48 pm

In post 10367, chamber wrote:This is why people don't like you. Both sides are wrong and have faults. When we are wrong you love rubbing it in our faces. When you are wrong, you love rubbing it in our faces.

^kinkshaming^

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Post Post #10382  (isolation #66)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:51 pm

pizzagate was in Boston?

Man I should read more news

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Post Post #10384  (isolation #67)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:54 pm

there are some p good local pizza chains here tbh
not that i ever eat pizza though

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Post Post #10494  (isolation #68)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:09 pm

In post 10465, Kublai Khan wrote:Moments after Rudy Giuliani is announced as the cyber-security adviser, his website is completely and easily trashed by hackers.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ckers.html

obvious future was obvious

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Post Post #10495  (isolation #69)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:10 pm

In post 10472, Untrod Tripod wrote:I take it all back, this election was a success after all
Have to agree with that one
though I am saddened by my lack of Taco Truck

sacrifices

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Post Post #12584  (isolation #70)  » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:03 am

In post 12437, inte wrote:SNL at 22 year high in viewership

fake viewers
still not beating out mid-90s SNL
that was a great cast

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Post Post #16266  (isolation #71)  » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:21 pm

what makes you think she failed?

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Post Post #16269  (isolation #72)  » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:34 pm

In post 16267, Papa Zito wrote:If she'd succeeded in delivering some sort of damning Clinton info Trump would've included it in his next speech no?

what makes you think that was her job?

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Post Post #16270  (isolation #73)  » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:36 pm

to elaborate, I think the Russians were just trying to cause as much damage as possible with this situation

If he loses the election, what do the Dems do? Prosecute him and look like you're punishing your political enemies.

Now that he won, he's completely delegitimized and who the hell knows how much damage this does in the long run to the US political process. I think this was just another act of sewing chaos by the Russians with a candidate that they knew they could very easily compromise.

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Post Post #16280  (isolation #74)  » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:06 am

That's why Al Gore turned over the oppo research for GWB to the FBI. Cause he wanted to win at all costs. Same thing as GWB using his brother's Sec of State to quash any recounts in FL and sue up to SCOTUS to prevent the recounts that did happen from finishing. And the Brooks brothers riot and etc.
So, both sides *shrugmoji*

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Post Post #16284  (isolation #75)  » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:50 am

at all costs

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Post Post #16290  (isolation #76)  » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:48 am

They really aren't progressive, that's the problem

And Labour is trying to catch up
give them a few years

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Post Post #16292  (isolation #77)  » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:52 pm

I'm probably uninformed, but my impression was the Corbyn is calling for a return to essentially 90s era policies and people within the party are calling him a communist

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Post Post #16305  (isolation #78)  » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:09 pm

In post 16295, T-Bone wrote:The parties exist to win elections. That's it.

the fuck?

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Post Post #16306  (isolation #79)  » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:10 pm

In post 16300, T S O wrote:Trump won the election, or at least the Rust Belt, almost solely on his promise to repeal Obamacare because it was bleeding people dry. So please stop pretending that the GOP are faceless aliens who delight in killing people. The ACA was a disaster.

also on his promise to continue voter suppression efforts that won him the rust belt

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Post Post #16322  (isolation #80)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:22 pm

He really does think of everything though
Speaking on a flight from Washington to Paris, Mr Trump told reporters on board Air Force One that it was vital border agents could see through the wall to be aware of oncoming dangers.

"One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it," he said.

"So it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what's on the other side of the wall.

"As horrible as it sounds, when they throw the large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them. They hit you on the head with 60 pounds of stuff? It's over."

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Post Post #16327  (isolation #81)  » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:04 pm

I worked it out to being the first time I've noticed him sounding legitimately concerned for another person's wellbeing, paired with such a ridiculous scenario.

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Post Post #16412  (isolation #82)  » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:26 am

I can't wait for the eventual "he can't operate on that level on English" excuse

Jared is already trying to float the "we are too incompetent to collude with Russia" excuse

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Post Post #16414  (isolation #83)  » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:41 pm

also, too

"but just because we tried to collude with Russia, doesn't mean we got anything. They were useless."

"you won the election"

"well that was economic anxiety...and racism don't forget racism. Definitely not Russia though"

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Post Post #16416  (isolation #84)  » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:36 pm

Oh, interesting new theory is Putin wrote the excuse for Junior

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Post Post #16422  (isolation #85)  » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:11 pm

he basically ran as a Dem to avoid the GOP primary

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Post Post #16443  (isolation #86)  » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:27 pm

wow
The senate is blocking it's own party's president from recess appointments
that's kinda crazy

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Post Post #16476  (isolation #87)  » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:30 am


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Post Post #16488  (isolation #88)  » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:27 am

It's not incredibly hard to 'succeed' in life if you start off rich and enjoy screwing people over

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Post Post #16508  (isolation #89)  » Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:27 am

In post 16506, Psyche wrote:60% of dems just voted for a defense budget bigger than the one donald requested
there is always more money for bombs
always

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Post Post #16513  (isolation #90)  » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:56 pm

we already make that choice
dont know what country you've been living in

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Post Post #16516  (isolation #91)  » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:59 pm

p much
the eisenhower speech would be my time point

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Post Post #16518  (isolation #92)  » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:39 pm

but how will we keep us safe if we don't blow shit up?

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Post Post #16520  (isolation #93)  » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:39 am

I love how the crazy conspiracy theorist black guy is always right behind trump pimping his website

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Post Post #16522  (isolation #94)  » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:26 am

well he's a black guy wearing a shirt that says "Republicans aren't racist"
how could they turn that down?

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Post Post #16545  (isolation #95)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:19 am

basically stands for anti-fascist
they like to punch nazis

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Post Post #16546  (isolation #96)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:22 am


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Post Post #16548  (isolation #97)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:39 am

no its not

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Post Post #16559  (isolation #98)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:12 pm

In post 16551, CommKnight wrote:Tank Man

yeah so much has changed in China since Tank Man, where the government blocks any internet searches regarding his existence

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Post Post #16560  (isolation #99)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:17 pm

In post 16551, CommKnight wrote:But the problem is, many of them are arguing their point peacefully in the public view.

not sure what fucking protests you were looking at
the ones with plexiglass shields and metal batons?
or the ones with camo and AR-15 larping?
or the tiki torches chanting "blood and soil"?

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Post Post #16561  (isolation #100)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:18 pm

In post 16556, Fluminator wrote:I think he's saying not enough of the left denounce antifa violence, while a large portion of the right actively denounce nazis. (Or at least they used to. :? )
Therefore, it feels like antifa represent the left more.

the supremicists are their to incite violence

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Post Post #16563  (isolation #101)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:21 pm

In post 16562, Thestatusquo wrote:I guess what confuses me is that people act like violence is immoral writ large. That is just a completely bizarre position and I can think of very few philosophical moral frameworks that would suggest this.

Violence is often morally justified.
P sure its just from the fetishization of non-violent protest that permeates our educational system

which is a really odd contrast to the fetishization of dropping freedom bombs on other people

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Post Post #16566  (isolation #102)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:26 pm

did we do this yet?
Spoiler:
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Post Post #16568  (isolation #103)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:30 pm

fucking fascists

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Post Post #16571  (isolation #104)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:35 pm

In post 16569, CommKnight wrote:while a large portion of the right actively denounce nazis

the actual POTUS took three days to denounce the nazis
but yeah "large portion" is likely at least a little bit accurate. Though i don't think a majority

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Post Post #16572  (isolation #105)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:36 pm

In post 16569, CommKnight wrote:And also since this is the Donald thread. How quickly people forget that Donald Trump has told people to "Stop it" multiple times. He told his own supporters to stop committing violent acts. Yet not a peep out of Obama and Hillary toward their own supporters doing it.

wtf are you talking about?
he said he would pay their legal fees

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Post Post #16576  (isolation #106)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:49 pm

In post 16574, Fluminator wrote:Also yeah, can you get a candidate in the DNC who doesn't support droning and bombing and destabilizing countries. I would be so passionate in supporting the DNC if that was the case.

would love to

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Post Post #16580  (isolation #107)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:07 pm

In post 16578, Fluminator wrote:You have to realize that nazis thrive off violence. Give what they want if you so desire.

they thrive off of applying violence and threat of violence to others
very few people thrive on getting punched in the face

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Post Post #16604  (isolation #108)  » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:07 pm

In post 16597, Thestatusquo wrote:It's literally already working.

http://gizmodo.com/pro-trump-rallies-in ... 1798299229

This isn't fucking theoretical.

tbf
I think the "wow you mean there could be real world consequences to being a Nazi?" in general is what is squashing these things

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Post Post #16695  (isolation #109)  » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:07 pm

In post 16659, GreyICE wrote:On the other hand, relevant to what else I was discussing, Trump pardoned Arpaio. Among other things Arpaio has done:

Stage a fake bomb plot, complete with a near-conviction until his duplicity was revealed
Violated the constitution for jail conditions
Covered up the rape of a 13-year old girl
Misused police resources to launch harassment campaigns against his political opponents

And finally what he was pardoned for, failing to cease criminally detaining people without cause for the crime of being Hispanic.

Now this is a case where multiple layers of government have indicated that they have no interest in rule of law. None whatsoever. These sorts of situations are what leads to violence and the justification thereof.

at least there's still more to convict on
p sure prosecutors will be all the more motivated now

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Post Post #16703  (isolation #110)  » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:16 am

In post 16698, hiplop wrote: nazis can fuck off.

who's going to make them fuck off?

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Post Post #16704  (isolation #111)  » Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:20 am

Just words

"They wanted to kill us," Mr. Magill said. "They were throwing flammable liquids and torches on us … people could have died."

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Post Post #16805  (isolation #112)  » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:21 am

In post 16775, Flubbernugget wrote:It's been discussed before how much this site adores GreyICE so I'd take the vitriol with a grain of salt

lol
can you please make this adoration list?

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Post Post #16810  (isolation #113)  » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:40 am

In post 16808, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 16805, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 16775, Flubbernugget wrote:It's been discussed before how much this site adores GreyICE so I'd take the vitriol with a grain of salt

lol
can you please make this adoration list?

I thought I already did?

your list is wrong

very wrong

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Post Post #16815  (isolation #114)  » Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:32 pm

In post 16811, Flubbernugget wrote:So...we should take GreyICE's insults seriously?

I'm confused

I am too!

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Post Post #16817  (isolation #115)  » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:42 pm


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Post Post #16825  (isolation #116)  » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:38 pm

Just words

Leaked Chats Show White Nationalists Planned Use Of Brutal Force In C’Ville

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Post Post #16848  (isolation #117)  » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:34 am

ffs
theyre still waiting for the pivot

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Post Post #16864  (isolation #118)  » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:12 am


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Post Post #16892  (isolation #119)  » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:12 pm

lol

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Post Post #16941  (isolation #120)  » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:18 pm



cray cray

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Post Post #16965  (isolation #121)  » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:40 pm

In post 16960, T S O wrote:Graduate student forcefully reprimanded for showing a video of Jordan Peterson without taking a side. In the ensuing debacle, Bill C16 was referenced. Wasn't it zoraster who was confident that the bill would never be invoked to compel speech?

didn't know Trump was the President of Canada
Is this just the general hate other people thread now?

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Post Post #16974  (isolation #122)  » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:58 pm

prog rock, obv

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Post Post #16996  (isolation #123)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:45 am

Image

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Post Post #16999  (isolation #124)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:12 am

lol

thats gonna be one really high note, like dog whistle high...

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Post Post #17001  (isolation #125)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:32 pm

In post 17000, Majiffy wrote:Merkel looks like she doesn't know how to hold a beer glass. Why so low???

easier to tip for chugging

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Post Post #17010  (isolation #126)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm

next time zorotter is at a meet, I hope this information is heavily abused

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Post Post #17016  (isolation #127)  » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:18 am

whoever had "Profanities on the chyrons of all major news networks" time to update your BINGO card

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Post Post #17176  (isolation #128)  » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:15 am

In post 17170, Not_Mafia wrote:A majority of Democrats now have a favourable opinion of Bush so god only knows what Repubs think of him

he kept us safe

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Post Post #17183  (isolation #129)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:46 pm

man that audience

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Post Post #17187  (isolation #130)  » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:28 pm

In post 17186, TwoInAMillion wrote:Iraq and Afghanistan were his big mistakes but there's no proof that a President Gore would have done anything dramatically different.

youve got to be fucking kidding me

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Post Post #17191  (isolation #131)  » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:56 pm

In post 17189, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 17187, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 17186, TwoInAMillion wrote:Iraq and Afghanistan were his big mistakes but there's no proof that a President Gore would have done anything dramatically different.

youve got to be fucking kidding me


Where's the proof?

proof of what?
that Al Gore wouldn't have made Dick Cheney vice president, or Donald Rumsfeld (somehow now only the second worse Donald) Sec of Def?

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Post Post #17193  (isolation #132)  » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:02 pm

In post 17192, zoraster wrote:but I see little to suggest the intelligence failures of Bush that led to the invasion of Iraq

they weren't failures
they were outright intentional lies to initiate a war with Iraq on false pretenses

Afghanistan is likely to have happened had Gore dropped the ball on the 9/11 attacks, which is also not a given as the Bush white house clearly did a great job of ignoring the intelligence community warning them of the imminent threat

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Post Post #17197  (isolation #133)  » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:04 pm

In post 17194, TwoInAMillion wrote:political pressure to do something about 9/11

yeah Iraq make ssense

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Post Post #17199  (isolation #134)  » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:17 am

In post 17194, TwoInAMillion wrote:I don't think there's any proof Bush knew for a fact there were no WMDs.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/9/12123022/g ... s-iraq-war
i can find a lot more if you insist on me spending my time doing this

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Post Post #17206  (isolation #135)  » Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:19 pm

In post 17204, Psyche wrote:suppose he’s already had his katrina

if he doesnt start any wars it'll be difficult for him to catch up to W

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Post Post #17269  (isolation #136)  » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:43 am

man it's almost as if the economic climate is forcing people into jobs they don't want to do and aren't welll suited for

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Post Post #17280  (isolation #137)  » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:02 pm

In post 17279, TwoInAMillion wrote:blown the issue out of proportion.

yeah, if you're white
i guess

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Post Post #17287  (isolation #138)  » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:36 pm

In post 17286, Flubbernugget wrote:I don't think it's foolproof, but there's ways around it. NJ police used to camp out in PA parking lots of fireworks shops for vehicles with NJ plates. They would follow them home and stop them after they went over the bridge.

It also gives more legal leverage to investigators, for those who say they aren't empowered enough for preventative measures.

so you just pointed out that fireworks are more regulated than firearms

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Post Post #17296  (isolation #139)  » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:36 am

In post 17293, Kublai Khan wrote:Trump is pissing off some of the loyal 35% base he's got left

like they give a shit what comes out of his word hole

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Post Post #17303  (isolation #140)  » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:30 am

In post 17301, TwoInAMillion wrote:I personally believe the current national divided political state has lead to lower approval ratings overall in the past 30 or so years,

except Obama's lowest low is basically the same as Trump's highest high

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Post Post #17307  (isolation #141)  » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:42 am

In post 17305, TwoInAMillion wrote:media bias

suuuuure

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Post Post #17311  (isolation #142)  » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:51 am

no the media is clearly brainwashing people to hate Republicans
if only Fox News weren't so goddam liberal

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Post Post #17358  (isolation #143)  » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:46 pm

man you guys sure have some stamina for this crap

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Post Post #17373  (isolation #144)  » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:06 am

wasnt the original electoral college even less democratic than what we have now?

This country is basically founded on making sure "those people" don't have any say
and its for their own good obv

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Post Post #17384  (isolation #145)  » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:17 am

In post 17382, Flubbernugget wrote:On a less cynical note, let's say that a liberal presidential candidate pushes a massive pro-green campaign that involves EU-esque gas taxes. They only campaign in densely populated areas. That's great for the environment, but could absolutely destroy a lot of rural areas where public transportation may not be feasible. I don't think saying "well they're not the majority" is a fair assessment there.
I'd trade that to stop 100 people a day dying needlessly from guns because of tiny, vocal and armed minority

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Post Post #17387  (isolation #146)  » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:22 am

not to mention the other myriad ways the rural lifestyle is subsidized

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Post Post #17389  (isolation #147)  » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:34 am

In post 17388, Kublai Khan wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/03/01/how-often-the-cable-news-networks-have-discussed-jared-kushner-in-prime-time-this-week/

Given how little Fox News mentions Kushner, I wonder if people knew that he works in the White House and/or is married to Trump's daughter.

see
obvious liberal bias as the fake news networks are trumpeting this non-story

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Post Post #17439  (isolation #148)  » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:23 am

I had friends in HS that would steal soda. They just kept a cup from each fast food place in their car and reused it accordingly.

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Post Post #17441  (isolation #149)  » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:40 am

In post 17440, Kublai Khan wrote:Trump is going full trade war with Canada and Mexico (in addition to China and the EU). Things are going to get worse and expensive in the future.

but think of all the jobs the domestic steel industry will created

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Post Post #17457  (isolation #150)  » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:35 am

In post 17452, Kublai Khan wrote:

..........what?

whats with you liberals constantly making fun of our president?

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Post Post #17490  (isolation #151)  » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:07 pm

In post 17489, TwoInAMillion wrote:On a scale of 1 to 5, 1 being liberal 5 being conservative
Business Regulation - 4
Taxes 4
Larger Military 3
Social Security 2
Foreign Intervention 3
Immigration 2
Death Penalty 2
Abortion 3
Gun Control 1
Gay Rights 1
Nuclear Disarmament 2
Global Warming 1
Anthem Protest 4
one of these is things is not like the other
one of these things just does not belong

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Post Post #17494  (isolation #152)  » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:08 pm

In post 17492, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 17490, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 17489, TwoInAMillion wrote:On a scale of 1 to 5, 1 being liberal 5 being conservative
Business Regulation - 4
Taxes 4
Larger Military 3
Social Security 2
Foreign Intervention 3
Immigration 2
Death Penalty 2
Abortion 3
Gun Control 1
Gay Rights 1
Nuclear Disarmament 2
Global Warming 1
Anthem Protest 4
one of these is things is not like the other
one of these things just does not belong



this is exactly what I'm talking about, if you're in the center you are ridiculed.
the 'ridicule' was pointing out that Anthem Protest is not anywhere near an important issue compared to the rest of your list. Why is it on there?

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Post Post #17507  (isolation #153)  » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:04 am

its more profitable

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Post Post #17529  (isolation #154)  » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:38 pm

In post 17527, Majiffy wrote:While it sounds great in theory that would likely stagnate innovation in a number of industries for years as those top earners are generally the investors in new tech / businesses, etc

you know the government used to do that
NASA and all that jazz developed tons of tech

VC tech investors are now lighting money on fire for driveless cars, subsidizing illegal underpaid taxis, paying for wannabe Steve Jobs' fake blood machine, and old fruit in a bag.

but OHNO don't take precious money from the job creators

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Post Post #17579  (isolation #155)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:01 am

I'd argue private tech is actually much better at being a surveillance state than the state is

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Post Post #17584  (isolation #156)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:26 pm

In post 17583, Majiffy wrote:A gambler with $20,000 doesn't mind running a few losing $1000 hands to get a read on the shoe. A gambler with $2000 might only be interested in playing a few hands if any.

youre analogy is wrong because the gambler is using his own money

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Post Post #17596  (isolation #157)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:51 pm

In post 17587, Majiffy wrote:
In post 17584, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 17583, Majiffy wrote:A gambler with $20,000 doesn't mind running a few losing $1000 hands to get a read on the shoe. A gambler with $2000 might only be interested in playing a few hands if any.

youre analogy is wrong because the gambler is using his own money

Uh yeah investors use their money

That's how investments work
if youre doing it right you use OPM

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Post Post #17645  (isolation #158)  » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:52 am

I thougt he was talking about Ben Carson

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Post Post #17649  (isolation #159)  » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:26 pm


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Post Post #17676  (isolation #160)  » Mon May 07, 2018 4:50 pm

In post 17668, Psyche wrote:
In post 17660, TwoInAMillion wrote:both.

then you've failed to muster a sensical response to hebichan's post
I'm so shocked this happened

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Post Post #17677  (isolation #161)  » Mon May 07, 2018 4:51 pm

In post 17670, TwoInAMillion wrote:just because.
wow, I think that's the heaviest lifting those two words have ever done in a sentence

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Post Post #17689  (isolation #162)  » Mon May 07, 2018 5:59 pm

In post 17687, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 17686, chamber wrote:And none of that says anything about how qualified the person is to actually do the governing. You are unskillfully trying to talk around points.


If you say so.

qual·i·fied
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Post Post #17692  (isolation #163)  » Mon May 07, 2018 6:09 pm

In post 17690, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 17689, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 17687, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 17686, chamber wrote:And none of that says anything about how qualified the person is to actually do the governing. You are unskillfully trying to talk around points.


If you say so.

qual·i·fied
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officially recognized as being trained to perform a particular job; certified.



Except in the case of politics the politicians work for the people and they decide who is qualified.

Not what she said
and just because you keep saying that, doesn't make it true

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Post Post #17694  (isolation #164)  » Mon May 07, 2018 6:14 pm

not what I said either

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Post Post #17697  (isolation #165)  » Mon May 07, 2018 6:15 pm

In post 17695, Maruchan wrote:
In post 17672, TwoInAMillion wrote:https://www.newsmax.com/Headline/hillary-qualified-presidency-trump/2016/09/28/id/750617/

Hardly an overwhelming majority.

"Belief in trump's qualifications increase with age"

Oh good so the stupidity will die out before I will
once you're around long enough you realize it just takes over the next olds
you just need to live in the time when there are less olds than not olds

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Post Post #17744  (isolation #166)  » Tue May 15, 2018 8:43 am

stupid libs
if you're so jealous, why dont you just run for Presidnet?

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Post Post #17753  (isolation #167)  » Wed May 16, 2018 6:14 pm


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Post Post #17757  (isolation #168)  » Fri May 18, 2018 4:36 pm

why not?

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Post Post #17774  (isolation #169)  » Tue May 29, 2018 10:01 am

reduced pussy grabbing

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Post Post #17792  (isolation #170)  » Tue May 29, 2018 2:35 pm

In post 17788, Tazaro wrote:When are we going to admit that it is philosophically repugnant to have a system in which we designate the powers of commander-in-chief by way of popular vote?

shame we dont have that system

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Post Post #17800  (isolation #171)  » Tue May 29, 2018 4:14 pm

primary also isn't a popular vote, and there is no need for a primary, its just the current system that our major political parties use to decide a nominee as it theoretically screens for candidates that are popular and competent at running a campaign while increasing their name recognition

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Post Post #17809  (isolation #172)  » Tue May 29, 2018 5:23 pm

In post 17806, Tazaro wrote:
In post 17800, shaft.ed wrote:primary also isn't a popular vote

Well, yeah not de jure, but it almost acts like an official promotion upward of competing figures by way of citizen's consensus/plurality. It is de facto a vote by such a consensus, and I like to use that sort of label to describe what the primary functions as, if not what it is in its pure substance or what it is formally.
caucuses and super delegates would beg to differ

it seems you have more trouble with the current party system than anything else
so i dont know why your lumping our current (bad) iteration of democracy in with democracy as a whole

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Post Post #17810  (isolation #173)  » Tue May 29, 2018 5:26 pm

In post 17808, TwoInAMillion wrote:The primary system promotes the two party system, which I don't necessarily agree with.
not really
our meaningless parties mostly hold primaries. Jill Stein didn't just descend from Whole Foods as the Green Party nominee. We just don't care cause they can't win.

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Post Post #17815  (isolation #174)  » Tue May 29, 2018 5:35 pm

please not the Senate
its essentially the least Democratic entity in modern democracy

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Post Post #17818  (isolation #175)  » Tue May 29, 2018 5:48 pm

In post 17817, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 17810, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 17808, TwoInAMillion wrote:The primary system promotes the two party system, which I don't necessarily agree with.
not really
our meaningless parties mostly hold primaries. Jill Stein didn't just descend from Whole Foods as the Green Party nominee. We just don't care cause they can't win.



Minor parties don't usually have 10 well known candidates though.
Well that's on the media
we can get onto a whole new tangent with the fourth estate if you really want to

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Post Post #17820  (isolation #176)  » Tue May 29, 2018 5:55 pm

its a play on words about buying politicians

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Post Post #17823  (isolation #177)  » Tue May 29, 2018 5:59 pm

yes, that's why they elected W because O'Connor didn't want to retire under a Democrat

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Post Post #17831  (isolation #178)  » Tue May 29, 2018 7:12 pm

In post 17825, TwoInAMillion wrote:It's expected that justices will want to retire under a president of their party, that's not corruption.

so forcibly halting a recount to do so is cool beans?

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Post Post #17844  (isolation #179)  » Wed May 30, 2018 6:01 am

In post 17841, Maruchan wrote:I think Universal healthcare is good, but there are enough other freedoms/rights/etc in USA That I think are as important or more important that make me think I'm living in the least shitty country.

(present leadership excluded ofc)

I honestly can't think of a freedom we have in the US that isn't available in other developed nations
Aside from maybe food colorings, and Kinder Eggs
oh wait we can't have Kinder Eggs, so that's a minus

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Post Post #17847  (isolation #180)  » Wed May 30, 2018 8:57 am

In post 17845, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 17844, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 17841, Maruchan wrote:I think Universal healthcare is good, but there are enough other freedoms/rights/etc in USA That I think are as important or more important that make me think I'm living in the least shitty country.

(present leadership excluded ofc)

I honestly can't think of a freedom we have in the US that isn't available in other developed nations
Aside from maybe food colorings, and Kinder Eggs
oh wait we can't have Kinder Eggs, so that's a minus

We're free to argue that school shootings are a thing that nothing should be done about.
did you see that pornography is the most recent inanimate object responsible for school shootings?

they still haven't mentioned guns yet

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Post Post #17848  (isolation #181)  » Wed May 30, 2018 9:00 am

In post 17846, Maruchan wrote:while I disagree with fully state ran programs

um, you stated that you went into the military to receive fully state run healthcare
...

also fully state run healthcare is rare to non-existent in most of the world

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Post Post #17849  (isolation #182)  » Wed May 30, 2018 9:01 am

In post 17846, Maruchan wrote:I disagree with how much influence religion and christianity variants in specific have over our government. I dislike how apparently making sure I have the right to own 10 guns to defend myself when the government goes crazy and sends people after me to confiscate my guns (because me and my ten guns can outfight a multiple million person military/paramilitary strength *rollseeyes*) is more important than things like making sure people have the right to make their own decisions in life that dont affect their neighbors but the neighbors still get a say (gay rights, trans discrimination, abortion, etc.)

lots of countries dont do this btw

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Post Post #17854  (isolation #183)  » Wed May 30, 2018 12:57 pm

In post 17853, IceGuy wrote:There are a lot of countries where you don't need to join the military to get those "perks".

^^^

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Post Post #17856  (isolation #184)  » Wed May 30, 2018 1:25 pm

nope

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Post Post #17860  (isolation #185)  » Thu May 31, 2018 6:08 am

could def get in via marriage

and those are moving goalposts btw

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Post Post #17861  (isolation #186)  » Thu May 31, 2018 8:56 am

He's really addressing the big issues we all care deeply about

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Post Post #17870  (isolation #187)  » Thu May 31, 2018 10:58 am

In post 17864, BROseidon wrote:
In post 17861, shaft.ed wrote:He's really addressing the big issues we all care deeply about


Non-Dartmouth people: Yeah he seems bad
Dartmouth people: Dinesh D'Souza is Satan and we hope he dies a horrible death

I never caught the fact that he was funneling the illegal contributions through his mistress and her husband
how does he have a mistress?

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Post Post #17875  (isolation #188)  » Thu May 31, 2018 1:42 pm

In post 17874, IceGuy wrote:The last US president to try to enact steel tariffs on EU imports was George W. Bush.

In response, the EU threatened to enact tariffs on goods produced in key swing states: oranges from Florida and motorcycles from Wisconsin.

The tariffs were rescinded soon after.

You can't win an economic war against the EU if you're a democratic country.

we just have to convince Trump this is only bad because of the Totally Unfair electoral college, and then he can make it go away

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Post Post #17879  (isolation #189)  » Thu May 31, 2018 4:39 pm

its their version of empathy

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Post Post #17880  (isolation #190)  » Thu May 31, 2018 5:01 pm


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Post Post #17885  (isolation #191)  » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:08 am

I wonder if Tom Greene will go rob a bank now that he know's anyone who's been on the Apprentice gets a free pardon

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Post Post #17887  (isolation #192)  » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:20 am

goes back to at least the southern strategy

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Post Post #17891  (isolation #193)  » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:33 pm

that boy aint right

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Post Post #17893  (isolation #194)  » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:45 pm

I'm hoping she's spent the last couple weeks talking to the Mueller team
but who knows
probably something more mundane like medical reasons

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Post Post #17903  (isolation #195)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:47 am

In post 17902, talah wrote:I was sort of wondering what the point of the pardon was, considering he got no jail time and a pardon acknowledges guilt

pissing off liberals is a major plank of the Republican platform
once you understand this, everything makes sense

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Post Post #17905  (isolation #196)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:21 am

I think it's two fold

The first bits of pardoning were very clear signals to anyone getting leaned on by the Feds, that they would be pardoned by him if they didn't flip.

Secondarily, some of his celebrity contacts started chatting him up about pardoning their pet causes for justice. This gave him good press. It requires zero work on his behalf. And it's essentially an unstoppable godlike power to him. What wouldn't he like about it. I'm pretty sure he'll be going on a pardoning spree now across a large swath of people that are recommended by anyone that has access to his ear. I just read an article that he has 3,000 pardons as a target.

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Post Post #17914  (isolation #197)  » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:34 pm


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Post Post #17920  (isolation #198)  » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:19 am

or his hand is still horribly mauled from Marcon

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Post Post #17926  (isolation #199)  » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:30 pm

In post 17925, chamber wrote:Why do we want something common from the US president?

I'd take fucking common over what we've got right now

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