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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:34 am

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Because there are at least two mafia, right?

What’s to stop them from pairing up if we ML today?
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:40 am

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In post 173, Slaxx wrote:Can’t survivor win with mafia?
Play this like its mylo then. We dont gain anything by lynching survivor other than proving we are cowardly pricks.

Why do you townread allo?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:39 am

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In post 175, Slaxx wrote:Because there are at least two mafia, right?

What’s to stop them from pairing up if we ML today?
? What do u mean “pairing up”?
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:43 am

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A survivor + mafia pairing up

And okay

Odd. I’ll read the thread again and post later tonight.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:31 am

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Again, What do you mean pairing up?

how do survivor and mafia “pair” ??
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:37 am

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Survivor and mafia force nl
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:53 am

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if survivor and mafia combined have majority, survivor can team with mafia to lynch town and win. Lynching a survivor therefore effectively extends lylo by a day, so there's really no harm in lynching a survivor. Check the wiki page on survivor for more info.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:13 am

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In post 181, Allomancer wrote:if survivor and mafia combined have majority, survivor can team with mafia to lynch town and win. Lynching a survivor therefore effectively extends lylo by a day, so there's really no harm in lynching a survivor. Check the wiki page on survivor for more info.
doesnt sound like a bad idea imo
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:19 am

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Oh, come on now.

I'm voting for super-obvs mafioso rn, ie I'm co-operating with town.
Loved Jester does not claim loved, unless he wants to get nightkilled as suspected cultist.
Unloved Jester would have self-hammered.
Loved town does not co-exist with 1-shot doc.
Loved cultist also would not have claimed.

ergo, not loved, ergo lying, ergo mafia.
Didn't think I'd need to spell it out for yall, but here ya go.

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Now let's say I'm wrong about all of the above and he actually is a Jester.
What are his mylo incentives like? If he lynches town, he loses, if he lynches scum he's making it less likely that he'd be lynched the next day.
0 motivation to vote anyone but himself (and that loved he claims is not operative in mylo).
At least my potential-mylo incentives are lynch-neutral (i.e. I'm not gonna increase the risk losing if I let a lynch go thru. tbh, if Dong asks I'd let a lynch thru, cause 176 was funny)
lynching a survivor is not in any way better than lynching a jester.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:27 am

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Oh I missed where he said he was loved. Yep, Chateau has to be scum here.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 176, Donempire wrote:
In post 173, Slaxx wrote:Can’t survivor win with mafia?
Play this like its mylo then. We dont gain anything by lynching survivor other than proving we are cowardly pricks.

Why do you townread allo?
Pretty sure he is the only one who is actually solving for most of the people in today's lynchpool and being transparent about the reasoning.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:46 pm

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@TicTac what makes this super obvious mafia play and not Jester play? Any ideas for partners?
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:46 pm

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Bad* Jester Play
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:48 pm

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If Chat is mafia, then I think Allo's townread on Tris is probably wrong, as that vote off Chat and on to my slot seemed forced.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:13 pm

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In post 188, Slaxx wrote:If Chat is mafia, then I think Allo's townread on Tris is probably wrong, as that vote off Chat and on to my slot seemed forced.
oh yeah the naked vote is definitely scummy but right now chat is the scummiest and i don't think he's a jester.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:14 pm

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Votecount 2.5


Chateau Lobby(3)
~ (6), (18), (4)

Slaxx(1)
~ (17)
mcqueen(1)
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Not Voting (3): Dongempire(5), Slaxx(11), 0verki11(3)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-12 10:00:00)

This is an automated vote count generated by a tool written by MathBlade. It goes much smoother with exact votes but will try to detect bold votes and misspellings.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:16 pm

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This is probably the laziest thing I’ll ever do but

Can two more people confirm that Chat has to be scum here because I’m not following the logic but I also don’t fully understand the setup like I thought I did. I’m not voting even if they’re confirmed until they’re confirmed by at least half the players so I can know if all four lies to me we were fucked today anyway.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:47 pm

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Why would the mafia claim loved if they were not? That could lead them to getting accidentally lynched.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:54 pm

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I don't want to lynch Chateau. This narrows my lynch pool to Drixx or Allomancer, but I should probably look at mcqueen again.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:58 pm

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I have to be wrong somewhere.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 165, tictac wrote:
In post 159, tris wrote:
Wait, if Chateau is jester why hasn't he self hammered.


Oh, there can be loved jester.
Easy test does come to mind here.
Do as thou wilt tho.
Actually, this is right. Someone could vote and quickly unvote to test loved and there wouldn't be chance for a self hammer.
VOTE: Chateau Lobby
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 193, tris wrote:I don't want to lynch Chateau. This narrows my lynch pool to Drixx or Allomancer, but I should probably look at mcqueen again.
englighten me. why me?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:12 pm

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In post 196, mcqueen wrote:
In post 193, tris wrote:I don't want to lynch Chateau. This narrows my lynch pool to Drixx or Allomancer, but I should probably look at mcqueen again.
englighten me. why me?
Because my lynchpool has gotten small, and I'm starting to townread Allomancer more than I was townreading you.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:14 pm

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Do have any reads beyond what you are voting right now?
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:15 pm

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