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Post Post #7925  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:37 pm

In post 7923, Elsa Jay wrote:We can talk about why I survived when the game is over and scum is dead, I think. Because Boon isn't gonna do anything beforehand.


I think asking the mod about what can and can not cause a message from the mod is fair, given it is a mechanical part of the game

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Post Post #7926  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:40 pm

In post 7924, Nero Cain wrote:im not even sure why you'd even think that I gifted Elsa anything.


Obviously Nancy has been just ignoring me on this for like three or four days, but I was looking at:
Elsa, who I obviously scumread, having a quasi-inno on him, while also surviving the vig shot
Creature having ascetic
and you not having a claimed prize in a room with an ascetic

so I first was thinking you gifted Creature ascetic... for some reason. I don't know why exactly but yeah

so then I wanted to make sure you weren't somehow scum with Elsa, knew Elsa was BP, and gifted Elsa ascetic to make some sort of godmode blackhole of scum wifom

idk man, I basically wanted to eliminate possibilities of elsa getting support from his team and also understand what happened with Creature

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Post Post #7927  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:42 pm

As almost always happens, I am having serious second guesses about N&M despite his claim being weak as shit and almost totally unbelievable

idk that it's enough to make me want to shift to BEF right now tho

I think I'm gonna let this simmer for a bit and let Nancy think it through since I think she does a slightly better job of reading tpr claims than I do

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Post Post #7928  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:33 pm

In post 7372, Thanos wrote:Who all claimed Disloyal results on Elsa? If Elsa was JK'd by SS, any actions would be blocked, right?


Okay, so I think SS figured out we had vig and probably jailkept us and scum maybe no killed, to make Elsa look like he was roleblocked scum?
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Post Post #7929  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:34 pm

In post 7926, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7924, Nero Cain wrote:im not even sure why you'd even think that I gifted Elsa anything.


Obviously Nancy has been just ignoring me on this for like three or four days, but I was looking at:
Elsa, who I obviously scumread, having a quasi-inno on him, while also surviving the vig shot
Creature having ascetic
and you not having a claimed prize in a room with an ascetic

so I first was thinking you gifted Creature ascetic... for some reason. I don't know why exactly but yeah

so then I wanted to make sure you weren't somehow scum with Elsa, knew Elsa was BP, and gifted Elsa ascetic to make some sort of godmode blackhole of scum wifom

idk man, I basically wanted to eliminate possibilities of elsa getting support from his team and also understand what happened with Creature

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Lol, I haven’t been ignoring you. I’m just right about Nero.
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Post Post #7930  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:37 pm

In post 7928, DrewVa wrote:
In post 7372, Thanos wrote:Who all claimed Disloyal results on Elsa? If Elsa was JK'd by SS, any actions would be blocked, right?


Okay, so I think SS figured out we had vig and probably jailkept us and scum maybe no killed, to make Elsa look like he was roleblocked scum?


this is inaccurate btw, SS did not flip the alien variant of JK. Only the one killing action should have failed on him.

In post 7352, Boonskiies wrote:• At night, you may target a player. You will roleblock any action that player is performing, alongside protecting them from a singular kill action.


nothing there implies jailkeep interferes with other night actions

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Post Post #7931  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:57 pm

Yeah other stuff still work on a jailed target, just not kills.

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Post Post #7932  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:59 pm

Nani? A Lamees?

I need a list of currently living people, because clearly I forgot this (probably) young Lady existed.
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Post Post #7933  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:02 pm

She's probably been recovering from the betrayal of her hydra partner in Misery

A game that truly lived up to its name

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Post Post #7934  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:04 pm

You mean to tell me Auro stood up this fine young lady? How uncouth.

100 hours of shame to Auro.
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Post Post #7935  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:07 pm

Oh nothing like that, he just won as scum against her town

iirc, part of the stupidity of our 1v1 in this game earlier was that Lamees was insulting my reads in that game while I was actively watching Auro destroy her, which I could not say at the time

That was the basis of my "Mod plz tell lamees to stfu" comments at the time, given my slot was still alive, she was still alive, auro was still alive, and I had spoilers about the game and so not perspective slipping in my rebuttals would have been really hard

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Post Post #7936  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:42 pm

I'm just gonna sheep D btw, where are you voting?

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Post Post #7937  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:48 pm

In post 7936, Thanos wrote:I'm just gonna sheep D btw, where are you voting?


Well Thanos, what do you think the chances are that a town one-shot doctor didn't use any charges, entered a boonus room where they had the chance to win a charge and then fell asleep instead of winning that round, didn't use a charge of their protection that night, didn't soft or claim doctor at any point in the game, and has no claimed save despite a missing night kill.

Nancy just thinks they're just scum, I'm sitting here wondering why, if they're scum, they didn't just claim VT since that would have been more believable than what they actually claimed.

So, if you think BEF or Jingle is a better lynch for today than N&M I'm curious, since I'm just sheeping Nancy rn

also are you lamees or auro rn?

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Post Post #7938  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:52 pm

Jay still salty?

Yeah I read through the pages and I'm willing to give N&M the benefit of the doubt -- does scum really adopt a "didn't use charges, doctor" fakeclaim? Given the pressure on them, this would be the worst kinda fakeclaim for scum to make, no?

You think Jingle is a good lunch for his Xtoxm push alone? And BEF just seems like he's being BEF, to be honest. I don't see his obsession with dayreps as scummy.

You, Xtoxm, RCE all seem town to me - how confident are you in your PP townread? Do you have any other strong TRs? Creature claiming an inno on me I don't think is AI, since I'm already virtually conftown.

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Post Post #7939  (ISO)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:52 pm

In post 7916, DrewVa wrote:Bad vibes

N&M -- the situation we have then is:
-A missing scum nightkill
-A claimed town commuter that didn't commute the night of that missing nightkill
-A claimed town doctor that didn't protect the night of that missing nightkill

This means we have, de facto, three town protective claims. That's on top of whatever the fuck elsa is, which I guess at this point would seem to have to be the recipient of SS's jailkeep when we vigged him.

Is that impossible in a setup this large? No. Does it have my attention? Yes.

So what do you think of Jingle's claim then, I guess?

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I have a conditional protection but it wasn't triggered the night the kill went missing.

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Post Post #7940  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:35 am

In post 7938, Thanos wrote:Yeah I read through the pages and I'm willing to give N&M the benefit of the doubt -- does scum really adopt a "didn't use charges, doctor" fakeclaim? Given the pressure on them, this would be the worst kinda fakeclaim for scum to make, no?

You think Jingle is a good lunch for his Xtoxm push alone? And BEF just seems like he's being BEF, to be honest. I don't see his obsession with dayreps as scummy.

You, Xtoxm, RCE all seem town to me - how confident are you in your PP townread? Do you have any other strong TRs? Creature claiming an inno on me I don't think is AI, since I'm already virtually conftown.


irt N&M
>It's a bad fakeclaim
>It's a bad realclaim

>N&M pushed Alonzo in boonus when he was dying
>S_S pushed EJ in boonus when he had quasi-scumclaimed

>I remember some very small whiff of town in them back in like day 1
>Nancy scumreads them now and her reads have been pretty good this game

>it would match my expectations in terms of wim if scumteam was starting to give up (I have another thought I could mention here on that that would piss off BEF)
>if they really are having health issues then their erratic play is understandable

I'm conflicted, N&M's play has been pretty ??? so eliminating wifom is maybe not the worst idea here. If Nancy wants N&M to go today I will support her because I have mixed feelings

I think Jingle's commuter claim is fishy and I thought the wallpost on xtoxm was weird af

Are you mostly thinking of BEF from that mini normal where you died early? Or have you played with him elsewhere?

hmmmmmmmm

how do you feel about Unah? We have the "not-vanilla" result from RCE's bunynip right? And RCE was townreading her reaction to that. and then someone else (maybe Creature) also had a no result on her? But I'm not sure that wasn't on a night where we have an un-accounted for jailkeep so it's not 100%, unless this was after creature was already asceticizied? guess I could double check timeline there

I mean, I guess we can also ask if there's a world where Profii actually lies about sending sticky fruit to a different person as scum but that's a pretty mind-blowing play to me

dave has seemed townier today but I also have mixed feelings about him being so absent for so much of the game

For me towncore is: Thanos, Profii, Xtoxm, DrewVa, PenguinPower, RCE

Nancy's townblock extends to: Nero Cain, Gamma Emerald

mechanical questions remain here -- {Creature/UnaBombah}

maybe dave goes here for right now?

the black hole ---Elsa Jay---

BrightEyedFish, Jingle

Nev and Max

something like that
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Post Post #7941  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:49 am

I dunno, I'm bad so take this with a grain of salt. Dave was absent a lot of OK2 as well and I have townread him there I thought his inputs were well thought out and meaningful when he did post. That was fmpov where I could objectively read slots without a lot of consequence.

It's like 2 different players when I compare it to this game. I'll probably never be one for mechanical play so this is just, gut and limited meta so.

Dave, jingle, Bef, and Elsa I could still go for. But I'm probably just voting Bef today.

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Post Post #7942  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:55 am

Elsa>>>Jingle>>>Dave>>>BEF
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Post Post #7943  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:56 am

I'll have you know that every single post I make is well thought out.
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Post Post #7944  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:58 am

though I'd put Creature b4 everyone but Elsa
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Post Post #7945  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:02 am

To be honest, with more people starting to just now start to serious consider lynching me feels like a compliment. I would have never fathomed that scum!me would make it this far with this player list. Too bad I'm not scum and this pipe dream will have to wait for another day.

What's wrong with wanting to figure out the Day Rep selection? Scum have the ability to select a day rep and I think there is something there to help us.

Of course I want an EJ lynch today but I get that it;s not going to happen based on his lies. Unfortunately, I don't have any new evidence against EJ.

I don't know how I feel about N&M right now. I kinda believe the claim but waiting this long does seem kinda iffy?

My top focus right now is on these 4:
Jingle, Creature, Drew, Dave

Beside, I've crumbed my role 3-4 times in this game. I figured everyone had figured it out by now or at least the people affected by it.

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Post Post #7946  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:23 am

In post 7943, davesaz wrote:I'll have you know that every single post I make is well thought out.

None of mine ever are

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Post Post #7947  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:25 am

Re the N&M claim

It’s a curious claim because surely in a scum PT the other guys would be like “we will put N&M protection on ~whoever~”

Like IME of scum it’s not necessarily up to the individual scum PRs to declare their own actions

So it could be an extra wifom element of the claim

I need to iso to decide

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Post Post #7948  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:39 am

In post 7945, BrightEyedFish wrote:What's wrong with wanting to figure out the Day Rep selection? Scum have the ability to select a day rep and I think there is something there to help us.


well, if it's only limited to scum, I'd just never use it. day rep is garbage. hammering without consensus would be a scumclaim, and anything other than hammer simply is done to encourage town to start doing stuff more

it's useful at the very end of the game maybe, but not in this game state. it won't be relevant for like two or three more days probably

and if it's *not* limited to the scum team, I'd just throw it on whoever would most fuck with people like you

so I basically just don't see how we can possibly get a scum out of it given there is almost 0 actual incentive to give it to a scum player

I certainly don't see how it is a more useful sorting method than literally any other method

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Post Post #7949  (ISO)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:43 am

In post 7947, profii wrote:Re the N&M claim

It’s a curious claim because surely in a scum PT the other guys would be like “we will put N&M protection on ~whoever~”

Like IME of scum it’s not necessarily up to the individual scum PRs to declare their own actions

So it could be an extra wifom element of the claim

I need to iso to decide


Was it confirmed scum have daychat or am I lost?

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