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Post Post #10  (isolation #0)  » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:19 pm

VOTE: Ari

I am town, ask me anything
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Post Post #20  (isolation #1)  » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:41 am

In post 11, Aristophanes wrote:Honestly this playerlist is fantastic! =D

In post 10, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: Ari

I am town, ask me anything
Red town or Green town? :P

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Post Post #22  (isolation #2)  » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:45 am

In post 19, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm strangely intimidated and intrigued by T..

Reck is less scummy than Majiffy town reading his post imo.

Why? I think Majiffy would town read me based off that post
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Post Post #26  (isolation #3)  » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:49 am

I'm interested in his motivations for asking a question to which I have the options of:

- Answering that I'm green town, which shows nothing
- Answering that I'm red town, which is obviously not possible, and shows nothing

I'm not letting jokey ha ha im so casual now lemme lurk away Ari get away with anything here
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Post Post #27  (isolation #4)  » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:49 am

In post 25, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 22, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 19, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm strangely intimidated and intrigued by T..

Reck is less scummy than Majiffy town reading his post imo.

Why? I think Majiffy would town read me based off that post


I have entered games saying I'm town as either alignment. Unless it's a trust tell then I don't see how that's possible. Why do you think he would see you saying "I'm town" as towny rather than scummy from you?

Because it's the kind of attitude Majiffy would expect me to have as town
I think it's tonal
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Post Post #38  (isolation #5)  » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:51 am

sure it's a joke
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Post Post #51  (isolation #6)  » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:48 pm

In post 48, Majiffy wrote:
In post 27, xRECKONERx wrote:Because it's the kind of attitude Majiffy would expect me to have as town
I think it's tonal

All of this is 100% correct but now that I know that you know that I would town read you for it I have to rescind my read based on WIFOM

Why are you voting Ari? Ari is town.

TBF i didn't know that you would read me town for it, i just surmised based on your post + context clues

it's not a meta thing it's more like "I know Majiffy and if I had to guess why he's reading me as town it's X"

anyway i could've said nothing and just let you keep townreading me so whoops
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Post Post #75  (isolation #7)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:09 am

In post 64, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm scumreading Reck for getting all serious in the first place contrary to Penguin thinking he's town for being the fun police. I agree that Ari is likely town for the same reason. Also his moonlogic for townreading Reck seems towny.

cheeky scumreads reck for dumb reasons

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Post Post #80  (isolation #8)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:31 am

In post 76, CheekyTeeky wrote::/ yep try and discredit me, I'm not going anywhere.

VOTE: Reck

i don't have to discredit you, the proof is in the pudding

more just musing on how im always frustrated by your read on me and reminding myself how this goes down
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Post Post #81  (isolation #9)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:32 am

In post 79, CultOfAthena wrote:What's your read on Cheeky, Reck?

null

i have no reason to read cheeky as either alignment rn
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Post Post #83  (isolation #10)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:36 am

i don't recall what alignment cheeky was in any previous game

i just recall frustrating moments where cheeky has read me wrong. consistently. it's not about meta, it's about my read on her ability as a player to read me.
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Post Post #85  (isolation #11)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:38 am

that's quite a flip
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Post Post #89  (isolation #12)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:43 am

In post 86, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 83, xRECKONERx wrote:i don't recall what alignment cheeky was in any previous game

i just recall frustrating moments where cheeky has read me wrong. consistently. it's not about meta, it's about my read on her ability as a player to read me.


Actually, how can you doubt my ability to read you if you don't recall my alignment? If I was scum I'd know what alignment you were.

because after im dead i rarely go back and read games.
i only recall the moment.
In post 87, CultOfAthena wrote:
In post 83, xRECKONERx wrote:i don't recall what alignment cheeky was in any previous game

i just recall frustrating moments where cheeky has read me wrong. consistently. it's not about meta, it's about my read on her ability as a player to read me.

Scum don't make real reads. Do you think cheeky is actually reading you here? You haven't indicated that you think her reasoning is being made up, despite indicating that you think it's very poor.

I don't know. does it matter? I'm not cocky enough to think i can read someone's motivations on page 3
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Post Post #90  (isolation #13)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:44 am

In post 88, CheekyTeeky wrote:Also Reck I have never mislynched you so I don’t know what you're crying about.

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Post Post #98  (isolation #14)  » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:51 pm

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Post Post #171  (isolation #15)  » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:53 pm

In post 136, PenguinPower wrote:I didn't see where you were TRing them both until after CoA's readslist. Reading back on you saying how you liked I read the game kinda makes sense with that statement though.

But, yeah. Ok.

{Majiffy, Chickadee, Maestro} with an outside chance of {Reck} and a spacelaunched chance of {Ari, TTTT}.

Minus my name, this is an okay list
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Post Post #193  (isolation #16)  » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:47 am

i agree that CoA is town but i think CoA is just badtown based on :things:
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Post Post #212  (isolation #17)  » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:45 pm

Also considering, like, votes don't count in this first phase.

I would be fine with a lurker lynch on Maestro though.
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Post Post #259  (isolation #18)  » Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:44 pm

im fucking exhausted so i will look at this tomorrow
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Post Post #275  (isolation #19)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:50 pm

I think I'd vote CheekyTeeky probs, eventually

but Ari dies first imo
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Post Post #279  (isolation #20)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:54 pm

In post 276, TTTT wrote:
In post 275, xRECKONERx wrote:I think I'd vote CheekyTeeky probs, eventually

but Ari dies first imo


have you played with maestro?
if so plz share thoughts

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Post Post #280  (isolation #21)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:55 pm

Maestro seems null tbh he thought this was a geriatric game so he didn't post for a while and since then he's had to be on the defensive because of people wagoning him so idk it's null. could be scum, could not be scum

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Post Post #282  (isolation #22)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:00 pm

that's correct

i have always been an advocate for lynching people that lurk and do nothing and people always shout me down about it and then the last game we played town went full pants on head stupid and let ari cakewalk to victory because he lurked out early game and/or contributed nothing but jokes and shit

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Post Post #292  (isolation #23)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:42 pm

In post 285, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 282, xRECKONERx wrote:i have always been an advocate for lynching people that lurk and do nothing


But you don't want to lynch Maestro...

maestro has not proven to me he is capable of bamboozling a town after lurking out all game

ari has
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Post Post #297  (isolation #24)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:47 pm

maestro youre making this really hard
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Post Post #307  (isolation #25)  » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:44 pm

In post 305, Majiffy wrote:
In post 297, xRECKONERx wrote:maestro youre making this really hard

Your avatar is really fucking me up right now man

bby u like?
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Post Post #309  (isolation #26)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:58 am

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Post Post #330  (isolation #27)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:04 pm

In post 316, PenguinPower wrote:Actively prodges until 13 hours left in discussion...

Can die imo.

huh allow me to introduce you to ari's iso

he has spent the entirety of the day making jokes, talking about off-topic shit, or just randomly questioning people while providing no reads of his own.

the only post that could qualify as content is 300 and even then he slips right back into contentless dreck
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Post Post #334  (isolation #28)  » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:26 pm

In post 249, Maestro wrote:As far as I can tell, two things happened really early on that turned me right off, and one of them was T4 talking to me like a child, while the other was people misusing the words "lurking" vs. "inactive" or "not around" or whatever, because they're very different and one implies I care a lot more than I do and was trying to antagonize the playerlist and the mod when I would hope it's clear I had no intention or desire to do that.

So let's fucking stop? Lurking is being around and planning posting times or some bullshit. Not posting is not posting. If yuo have a problem or think I'm doing the former, fine! But it's New-Year-new-me and it's annoying as hell so I'll call you on connecting dots where there are none.

  • T4 is stil an edgelord. Seemingly taking stances that, to me, not many others are taking ( does not make one town, even if he seems to think it does ( and other posts seem to be along this line, mentioning "town wouljdn't do this, too risky" - literally puts forward the philosophy he thinks makes scum look town... which we can figure he would try to buck if he was scum trying to look town, makes sense to me) ALSO wik, he pushes Majiffy and Chick on how well they read eachother, and calls Chick town... but says almost nothing about Majiffy. I also don't like how much nhe comments on other ppls' readlists. Skeevy. "Woohoo hairs" gimme a break, you sound like a Sim or a Mii
  • Ari's ISO is awful, not sure how he's been allowed to skate by on it so far; every single post without fail is either a joke or a question (no follow-up in sight), and he talks to people like he's a happy-go-lucky-0couldn't-be-less-serious-or-more-innocent-guy and cI basically agree with Reck's first post about notl etting that go because it's likely to bite us up the ass. Like, same kind of shit from above here, tho, and idc if I look too butthurt about it at this point, inactivity as reaction test is what I'll consider the last few days: (from )

    I doubt voting him will have any effect...
    Like that works on newer players but experienced players are far less likely to be pulled back into the thread due to a wagon on them.

    That, to me, does not read like somebody going "I am also interested in Maestro's alignement and I think we should pressure him" that reads as "meh, let's see if I can cast doubt both on the tactic being employed and the target of said tactic - maybe the game will stall even more, or Maestro will feel I've done him a favor by potentially letting up pressure and I will be seen as doing something even tho this isn't a Newbie Game and I'm not an IC"

    ugh

    OH I found another tidbit as I was finishing:

    In post 221, Aristophanes wrote:TTTT is probably where my vote is going.

    This is the first mention of anything serious, and the first direct mention of T4 to somebody else, while his only interaction with T4 has been to joke about MafSilver (hint: it's the best, it's the first, MafBlack burns eyeballs) and to, in his own words, "just be snarky" about the Role PM bs which was all NAI to begin with because most of the playerlist is SMART ENOUGH that this "my role PM is this color" thing means NOTHING - I should say about half of the list is smart enough that it means nothing, to the other half apparently it means enough to talk about it for 7 pages, more-or-less/on-and-off
  • The only other shit posts I had time to truly parse was the first bit of Cheeky, then Reck is scum with neither Cheeky norMan jiffy based on pages 3-5, and I don't think Reck/Majiff are super Town from their interactions with eachother specifically, but I definitely would agree that they're Scum together because of those. But honestly, literally anything can be faked if you're experienced enough, and yes, I fucking say that shit as either alignment because it's true anbd people who don't agree are wrong or not experienced enough to realize that it's true, one or the other.

and maestro has one content post too so like idgi
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Post Post #369  (isolation #29)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:35 am

In post 339, Alisae wrote:
In post 330, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 316, PenguinPower wrote:Actively prodges until 13 hours left in discussion...

Can die imo.

huh allow me to introduce you to ari's iso

he has spent the entirety of the day making jokes, talking about off-topic shit, or just randomly questioning people while providing no reads of his own.

the only post that could qualify as content is 300 and even then he slips right back into contentless dreck
Isn't that the town ari that always gets mislynched?
dunno, haven't played in awhile.

player with awful lurker meta gets pass on awful lurker meta despite winning games on terrible awful lurker meta as mafia
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Post Post #370  (isolation #30)  » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:38 am

In post 356, CultOfAthena wrote:Right.


@Reck, what's your read on me? You had me as town earlier – has that changed?

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Post Post #383  (isolation #31)  » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:34 pm

VOTE: Aristophanes
Next: CheekyTeeky
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Post Post #397  (isolation #32)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:54 am

In post 386, mith wrote:3 - Alisae (TTTT, PenguinPower, CultofAthena)

This entire wagon is lynchable rn tbh

The Maestro wagon was always sketch and then the Alisae wagon before she could even catch up was doubleplusbad

There's scum here for sure for sure
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Post Post #398  (isolation #33)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:55 am

I think PP is actually pinging my tinglies the most right now but CoA's hammer was uhhhhhh superbad
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Post Post #401  (isolation #34)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:34 am

I mean it could be possible the scum in you three is buddied with Ari, sure.

Ari's push for me has always been "this literally has to die before LyLo and if he's town scum will never kill him" and I still hold that to be true.
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Post Post #403  (isolation #35)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:02 pm

Because I still wanted Ari gone and thought I could get at least one vote on him, possibly two
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Post Post #405  (isolation #36)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:06 pm

Cheeky, she had Ari in her scumpile near the end of the first phase
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Post Post #410  (isolation #37)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:03 pm

In post 406, PenguinPower wrote:There were only three votes in play (yours included) and CoA had a scumread with 2 votes on. There was no way you could push through Ari.

CoA was scumreading Maestro prior to Alisae replacing in
it was possible Alisae replacing in had alleviated that read

and tbh im not gonna sit here and play apologetic for at least TRYING to ram through a lurker lynch at the last second when EVERY WAGON had two votes on it?
esp considering you fuckos hammered a town slot???

like the push on maestro yesterday looks so goddamn bad

he was lurking, sure, but so were other people
every reason thrown at the maestro thing was easily applicable to others (coughARISTOPHANEScough)

the maestro wagon was full of bad ideas and bad faith imo. i havent gone back to read who else was frothing at the mouth for a lynch on maestro but yeah ESPECIALLY considering the replace-in, the hammer was really fucking bad.
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Post Post #414  (isolation #38)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 pm

Wrong??? I was pushing for Ari nonstop?? And it ended up tied for second for votes at the end of the day?
Masterful deflection of your own bullshit tho for real A+++ puppetmastering
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Post Post #415  (isolation #39)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:29 pm

yes i would've been fine with a lurker lynch on maestro

and then

wait for it

he got R E P L A C E D

no lurker lynch needed when we have a replacement. alisae got fucked by deadline. instead of letting alisae catch up and try to prove herself you clowns hammered her for nothing
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Post Post #416  (isolation #40)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:30 pm

you literally quoted a post in which i said it was purely a lurker lynch on maestro.
you quoted a post in which i was defending maestro's inactivity and the push on him

you masterfully left out the post in which i was trying to swing the lynch from maestro to ari instead by pointing out everyone's dumb reasons for voting maestro could equally apply to ari and then some
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Post Post #419  (isolation #41)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:53 pm

i looked and went "hmm there's three wagons with two votes, i can likely make it a fourth wagon with two votes, then maybe i get my preferred vote?"

my other option was voting for one of the other three wagons and none of them looked tasty
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Post Post #420  (isolation #42)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:54 pm

like how is that not believable for you
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Post Post #424  (isolation #43)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:37 pm

In post 422, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 419, xRECKONERx wrote:my other option was voting for one of the other three wagons and none of them looked tasty


Both TTTT and I were other wagons, and you thought the wagon on Ali was trash, and you think I'm trash today for voting Ali.

Like...nothing changed between your option to vote me or TTTT and the lynch on Ali except CoA hammering and actual confirmation of what you actually already thought.

I did not do the mental gymnastics to say "Hmm, well, I believe I'm right about Alisae, therefore it's likely one of PP/T4 is scum, therefore I should add a vote to one of them instead of pursuing my already-existing desire to lynch Ari"

and what part of "I believed I had a better shot of getting my actual read lynched" isn't tracking for you
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Post Post #425  (isolation #44)  » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:37 pm

i had no idea COA would badhammer alisae without giving her a chance to catch up

@Ari: I cannot see how in any way, shape, or form your question matters
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Post Post #431  (isolation #45)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:32 pm

i mean it doesn't matter because i clearly didn't feel strongly enough about any of the three that i felt like voting them was the right move so anything i say now is just me trying to make up what i would have done in a moment that has now passed and has been influenced by shit that has happened here

it's a do nothing question that SPOILER does nothing, but is asked in an attempt to make it look like Aristophanes is contributing to the game in a meaningful way
but peel back the veneer and there's nothing underneath
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Post Post #432  (isolation #46)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:34 pm

if i literally couldn't have voted for aristophanes (which is dumb stupid fantasyland idiocy, again) i would've probably voted for TTTT because he gave me weird vibes D1/was a long shot scumread for me after several others plus his avatar is the creepier of the three

if i could travel back in time now id probably hammer penguinpower
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Post Post #434  (isolation #47)  » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:06 pm

i mean if i was scum ive now had time to rethink it and come up with a better answer??? why are we questioning hypotheticals instead of like...analyzing the behavior that was actually done.

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Post Post #440  (isolation #48)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:31 pm

I plan to still vote Ari but if forced to would vote PP/COA probably?
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Post Post #442  (isolation #49)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:49 pm

i have no idea where tttt stands on anything
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Post Post #446  (isolation #50)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:29 pm

In post 444, PenguinPower wrote::lol:

There's no way you actually think I'm scum here.

I'd prefer Majiffy, but would vote Ari.

what happened to you thinking im scum
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Post Post #450  (isolation #51)  » Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:55 pm

i mean maybe?? im notoriously bad about people getting into my blind spot so im always paranoid of that tbh
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Post Post #457  (isolation #52)  » Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:39 pm

thinking on it, i actually could be very convinced of jiffyscum here
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Post Post #475  (isolation #53)  » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:00 pm

i think replacing out bc you arent engaged is a p good thing to do generally
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Post Post #514  (isolation #54)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:30 pm

In post 510, the worst wrote:talk to me about how you think this is wolf motivated (assuming you're calling 1/maybe 2 on-wagon?)

i think the whole maestro push d1 was scummy because it was viewed as an "easy" lynch
and then maestro flew in getting all defensive, which gave scum even more cover to keep pushing

meanwhile i wanted ari dead and thought the lack of consistency in people wanting maestro over ari made absolutely no sense whatsoever

i think the wagon on maestro and eventual hammer on alisae was shitty because
1) the entire d1 push on maestro was logically inconsistent and looked like low hanging fruit
2) the primary complaint had been centered around maestro not doing enough so then he gets replaced by a capable player and........we hammer it before that player can even catch up??

like i think that wagon was just an absolute slam dunk for scum. I don't think both scum would be dumb enough to jump on that wagon, but 1 on 1 off seems entirely too likely. scum had laid groundwork to cover their ass in case they were pushed for it by pointing to "oh well maestro didnt do anything d1". in fact, it's funny that instead of those three being analyzed, the game somehow turned into SPECIFICALLY yelling at me/Cheeky for our votes on Aristophanes instead
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Post Post #519  (isolation #55)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:04 pm

In post 516, the worst wrote:What's tipping you off that this is certainly scum motivated rather than possibly town motivated?

I do not see town motivation in "oh this person just replaced in, let's kill them before they can contribute"

none. i dont see it at all. obviously they can't all be scum, but i have to believe at least one of them is. i dont think anyone anticipated i would get as livid about the maestro wagon as i did, there weren't any warning signs, so i dont see why scum wouldve avoided it.
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Post Post #520  (isolation #56)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:05 pm

I actually would like to see CoA lynched tbh at this point

I don't know. I keep slipping around. I think there are a lot of people who could be scum.

I think like Ari makes sense still but CoA>PP is probably how I'd lynch on that wagon
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Post Post #526  (isolation #57)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:53 pm

In post 524, CultOfAthena wrote:Reck has done nothing except unilaterally declare Ari scum and then make conclusions based off of that

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Post Post #527  (isolation #58)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:57 pm

please point to where it was so super obvious you were ride or die with voting alisae when it looked to me like you were engaging alisae and trying to form a read and then WHAM you voted

i think you're overstating how "obvious" it was what you were doing. in fact, looking at your posting around alisae at the end of the day yesterday, it looks pretty suspect that you were not taking a side either way? like you were just pushing on me and pushing on alisae but i can't seem to find where you stated a for sure committed read at any point

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Post Post #529  (isolation #59)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:58 pm

also let's talk about people not reading when you're saying I've "unilaterally" declared Ari scum and have made conclusions based off of that when my desire to lynch you/PP has very little (if anything) to do with my read on ari
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Post Post #534  (isolation #60)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:14 pm

In post 528, the worst wrote:
In post 519, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 516, the worst wrote:What's tipping you off that this is certainly scum motivated rather than possibly town motivated?

I do not see town motivation in "oh this person just replaced in, let's kill them before they can contribute"

none. i dont see it at all. obviously they can't all be scum, but i have to believe at least one of them is. i dont think anyone anticipated i would get as livid about the maestro wagon as i did, there weren't any warning signs, so i dont see why scum wouldve avoided it.


You don't think Ali had produced enough content on the back of eir pred that it was reasonable to have a pretty solid read on that slot?

In hindsight I would've preferred the Ari lynch go through but I can't agree with this at all.

I don't think there was enough of a reason for there to be a wagon in the first place, so I'm plugging in some gaps here to figure out WHY the wagon developed
so granted i could be missing the mark
but the wagon basically was built on the backs of a bunch of nothing + lurker whining -- so yes, i figured since the lurker whining was going away due to alisae replacing in, that it would nullify some of that momentum on ali/mae

PP
- doesn't mention Maestro until he's suddenly in his scumpile.
- responds to Majiffy saying Maestro is just the easy lynch by saying "maybe but prod dodging means he dies" (funny considering ari had done literally the exact same thing up to that point just without openly lampshading it as prod dodging)
- argues with Maestro for lurking/prod dodging
- lambasts Maestro for not contributing content
- Ali replaces in and PP says this gem:
In post 333, PenguinPower wrote:Gonna give Alisae a chance to town it up, otherwise that's where my vote goes. Ari being Ari is less bad than Maestro's slot currently.

He says literally nothing about Alisae between the replace in and slamming down that vote.
Conclusion: Maestro's push was built on him lurking and not contributing, and PP seemed open to giving Ali a chance, but then he voted Ali anyway

COA
- starts with Maestro in null pile
- randomly bumps him down to scum with no explanation
- calls out maestro's posts for being a "non-conclusion"
- calls me/maestro a team
- completely drops the push when alisae replaces in and instead starts pushing hard on me
- randomly picks it back up at the end of the day (I think I was too focused on COA pushing on me to pick up on this)
Conclusion: at least COA has been internally consistent........... in that there were basically ZERO explanations given AT ALL for any of the read on ali/maestro other than one time maestro posted something where he didn't take a hard stance on a read????? like there's absolutely nothing here to indicate progression of a read. it's just "boom one day maestro was a scumread and then sometime later, i had a very minor problem with one post he made and then ignored him the majority of the day"

TTTT I'm not really considering for the day because he seemed to put some thoughts into his read on Maestro and had a progression, seemed to be pushing for feedback on his reads, etc. Granted even TTTT said "lynching people that lurk and do nothing" was a primary reason for voting Maestro, but he also made no attempt to appear like he was wavering or scared of lynching town at any point. Then he replaced out and the worst has towned it up so far imo so I'm fine not digging into this one
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Post Post #537  (isolation #61)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:18 pm

honestly the idea of majiffy shooting chickadee to flip a townie who has "confidence" in reading him is a very big dick play that i could see him making but that's purely speculative so id rather focus on which of PP/COA/Ari is getting my vote today
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Post Post #538  (isolation #62)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:20 pm

In post 536, CultOfAthena wrote:
In post 534, xRECKONERx wrote:- completely drops the push when alisae replaces in and instead starts pushing hard on me

Where?

your response to alisae justifying your reasons for scumreading me
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Post Post #540  (isolation #63)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:26 pm

you have zero progression on your read and did not make an actual attempt to read maestro. not once. not the entirety of d1. you just magically had him in your scum pile, ADMITTED he could just be an easy lynch but you wanted to lynch a lurker (prod dodger), ignored being presented another lurker lynch in ari, harped on maestro not contributing...

and then we get someone who contributes and will fix all your stated issues with maestro

and you hammer that very person?

it doesn't track. "Ali can town it up" like what you never even gave a reason for Maestro to be scum, you just whined about him lurking, all Ali should've had to do was contribute at an acceptable level and generate content to deflate your entire stated reasons for voting Maestro in the first place.
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Post Post #542  (isolation #64)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:08 pm

explain how actively prod dodging is different from what ari was doing
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Post Post #544  (isolation #65)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:43 pm

so someone contributed no real content other than prod dodging, and someone else contributed no real content other than fluffy posts

im not sure how fluffy joke posts are better content than prod dodging
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Post Post #549  (isolation #66)  » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:59 pm

In post 545, Aristophanes wrote:They are different in intent, Reck.

Fluffy posts insinuate engagement with the thread and usually mean a certain amount of reading along. Proddodging flat out usually means the thread is mostly unread and denoted a lack of engagement, as is indicated by the later replace out of that player.

Majiffy is walking that line right now too but I feel he's actually being somewhat scummy in doing so. I have to look at him a little closer.

And simply posting in the thread is indicative of alignment how?

If anything, fluffposts are scummier because they give the illusion of contributing without actually contributing.
Prod dodges are openly evasive and honest about what they are, which I find to be way more likely to be a towntell than fluffposts.
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Post Post #587  (isolation #67)  » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:57 pm

"i'm 90% sure she isn't scum because meta" has to be the worst fucking reason to deflect a wagon on someone

i don't care, ill flip a coin between PP & COA during vote phase today idgaf
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Post Post #589  (isolation #68)  » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:55 pm

meta is fucking garbage
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Post Post #608  (isolation #69)  » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:22 am

VOTE: PenguinPower
Next: CheekyTeeky
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Post Post #621  (isolation #70)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:34 pm

LOL can we finally fucking lynch Penguin
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Post Post #623  (isolation #71)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:45 pm

"lynch me and lose because you don't want to reset your view and i wont let you forget it" is about as AtE as you can get at this point bud so that's rich coming from you
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Post Post #624  (isolation #72)  » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:47 pm

now we're in lylo with:

ari who should've been dead by now
molla who is brand new and replaced someone in lylo
coa who i have conflicting feelings on
you, pp, who ive been suspicious of since the hammer d1
and me

this is why you lynch ari early

like there's probably no universe in which i dont end up voting ari here and if he's town and you're town that fucking sucks too bad we couldn't have done the right fucking thing d1
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Post Post #627  (isolation #73)  » Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:07 am

@PP:
i was just commenting on the richness of you complaining about ate while performing ate yourself
i really dont give a flying fuck why coa is town to you unless you can explain it using smart big boy words that dont contain meta
by hammer i meant lynch and that should be obvious from context clues unless you're just being willfully obtuse to ram through your preferred mislynch de jour for lylo
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Post Post #633  (isolation #74)  » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:19 pm

hey ari rather than contributing nothing and just peppering people with questions how about giving an opinion
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Post Post #648  (isolation #75)  » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:43 pm

In post 646, CultOfAthena wrote:@Reck – Why did you switch from wanting Ari dead so much to voting between me and Penguin yesterday? If you had voted Ari yesterday, there would've been a possibility that his lynch could've gone through. There was essentially no chance that a wagon on Penguin could go through when you voted.

If you believe Aristophanes should've been dead by now—that is, if you believe LyLo is significantly for the worse given his continued survival—why not try harder to get him lynched yesterday?

As it stands, I'm inclined to believe that your switch to me and Penguin was a way to avoid voting your partner if not strictly necessary.

Ari was fading into the background for me while I was focused on the terribad Maestro lynch.

You say there was essentially no chance of the PP wagon. I didn't think there was a particularly good chance of any wagon going through yesterday other than Majiffy, but I sure as fuck wasn't going to vote with Ari/PP, so I threw my vote somewhere I thought might have a good shot at hitting scum.

I also cannot control where I get placed in the voting order. The fact is that I've been selected to vote in a position where I've had a chance to try to push a new wagon twice. Had I been selected earlier or later, I wouldn't have thrown down a vote in abject defiance if I didn't think I had at least a slight chance of a lynch happening.

Ari/PP could be a very viable team at the moment, and it's where I'm mostly leaning, with Ari a preferred scum lynch over PP.
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Post Post #652  (isolation #76)  » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:27 pm

I'm 100000% convinced it's Ari, don't care much about the buddy right now, I'll worry about that when Ari's dead or I get killed hopefully and don't have to fucking bother with it
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Post Post #664  (isolation #77)  » Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:30 pm

In post 657, CultOfAthena wrote:
In post 651, PenguinPower wrote:Ari > BB > Reck > CoA

This is what I'm leaning towards as well.

In post 648, xRECKONERx wrote:Ari/PP could be a very viable team at the moment, and it's where I'm mostly leaning, with Ari a preferred scum lynch over PP.

I don't know how I can emphasize this enough, and I feel the need to in case we lynch scum today and I'm killed.

PenguinPower is not scum. I am willing for this entire game's loss to be blamed on me if he turns out to be scum — thankfully, he isn't. I've played a lot of games with Penguin, many of them very recently. In every single one I have read him correctly, both town and scum. I believe I have earned some element of authority to speak on this. He's town.

If you're town and you're alive in LyLo with Penguin, all I ask is that you trust me.

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Post Post #683  (isolation #78)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:07 am

VOTE: Ari
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Post Post #686  (isolation #79)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:09 pm

YEET
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Post Post #694  (isolation #80)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:06 pm

luv2bconftown
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Post Post #695  (isolation #81)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:06 pm

now i have to actually do work though UGH
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Post Post #696  (isolation #82)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:06 pm

i already know who i'm voting so this is all posturing
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Post Post #698  (isolation #83)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:09 pm

molla
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Post Post #699  (isolation #84)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:09 pm

wait, no, you
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Post Post #700  (isolation #85)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:10 pm

does it matter

make your cases and ill just vote
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Post Post #702  (isolation #86)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:52 pm

In post 691, PenguinPower wrote:Um...scum me brings CoA into LyLo for an easy win.

Scum had to kill either me or CoA because we were lock town to each other, and bringing both of us into LyLo would be an guaranteed loss for scum.

Scum you brings me into LyLo because you know that Reck scumreads me, and it's your only shot at a win.

this is your case?

because "wifom" undoes all of it
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Post Post #703  (isolation #87)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:53 pm

you couldve killed CoA because if you brought CoA we'd be like "huh that's weird that they'd let two locktown people into lylo together" and CoA might start rethinking her read
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Post Post #709  (isolation #88)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:07 pm

tell me why anything you or your predecessor has done is town
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Post Post #710  (isolation #89)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:08 pm

In post 704, PenguinPower wrote:meta sucks (even though you use it) and wifom undoes everything. How do you actually play this game?

by analyzing actions and motivations and not LOLMETA
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Post Post #718  (isolation #90)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:34 pm

tbh ill probably vote bbmolla bc if im wrong then i can laugh and shout how stupid meta is and point to this game forever and laugh at CoA so that seems like an acceptable casualty
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Post Post #721  (isolation #91)  » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:53 pm

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Post Post #733  (isolation #92)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:01 pm

Bbmolla reading as hella genuine
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Post Post #735  (isolation #93)  » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:11 pm

PP mad cuz scum
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Post Post #737  (isolation #94)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:09 pm

@mith im coo with accelerating to the next phase tbh
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Post Post #740  (isolation #95)  » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:22 pm

VOTE: END Discussion
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Post Post #745  (isolation #96)  » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:15 pm

VOTE: bbmolla
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Post Post #758  (isolation #97)  » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:23 pm

In post 751, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 745, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: bbmolla


You were going to do this the whole time and were jerking me around....weren't you?

yep ;)
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Post Post #766  (isolation #98)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:20 pm

thanks for modding, mith :)

i appreciated the pace & the setup
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Post Post #770  (isolation #99)  » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:25 pm

In post 767, PenguinPower wrote:+1

I really enjoyed the setup.

Also, I really hate Reck.

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