[FEBRUARY CHALLENGE] Voting!

BBmolla · Post Post #48 (isolation #0) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:47 pm

The Wilderness

14 players:

1 Mafia Head

2 Mafia Goons

1 Town Headhunter

8 Vanilla Townies

There is no lynch during the day phase, instead this game features
The Wilderness
.
- All players may discuss and vote during the day phase.
- Once all votes have been placed, all players who were voted for are moved into
  The Wilderness
  , a Private Topic where all members may talk amongst themselves, for the night.
- There are various things players may do in
  The Wilderness
  - Players may
    talk
    amongst themselves as much as they please.
  - If there is a unanimous
    vote
    on a player in the Wilderness (excluding the player being voted), that player is lynched at the end of the night phase.
  - All players within
    The Wilderness
    are participating in a game of
    "Ready, Aim, Fire!"
    that resolves upon the end of the night phase. They must privately submit one of the following actions:
    - Shoot PLAYER
      - Assuming the player is not protected or shoots themselves, the player dies.
    - Shoot SELF
      - If any amount of players shoot you, they die. If no one shoots you, you die.
    - Shoot SKY
      - Do nothing.
    - Protect PLAYER
      - If that player is shot by anyone excluding themselves, you will die instead.
      - If two players protect each other, both protection fails.
  - A lynched player does not participate in the game of
    "Ready, Aim, Fire!"
    Any actions targeting them will be considered invalid and changed to
    Shoot SKY
    .
  - Any shot player is killed and flips upon the start of the day phase.
  - The Wilderness
    is locked and is not to be used again. A new one is made for each night.
The
Headhunter
is an alternate win condition for the Town.
- At any time, when able, the
  Headhunter
  may publicly guess the identity of the
  Mafia Head.
  If he is correct, town immediately win.
- At any time, when able, the
  Mafia Head
  may publicly guess the identity of the
  Headhunter
  If he is correct, the
  Headhunter
  dies, and the
  Mafia Head
  becomes
  Deathproof
  .
  - Once
    Deathproof
    , the
    Mafia Head
    may choose to "No Vote" during the day. He may still be voted into
    The Wilderness.
  - Once
    Deathproof
    , the Mafia win condition becomes White Flag.
  - Once
    Deathproof
    , Mafia gain an additional nightkill during the next possible night. This only lasts for that night.
- If the
  Headhunter
  shoots the
  Mafia Head
  in the
  The Wilderness
  , town immediately win.
- Once a guess is made, the other Role may not guess.
- If the guess is incorrect, the Mod responds to the guess with a simple
  "Incorrect,"
  and the game continues.
During the night, Mafia may select someone who is
NOT
in
The Wilderness
to die. Players within
The Wilderness
may not be targeted with the Mafia's nightkill.
If going into the night phase, all remaining town players are in
The Wilderness
, the game ends in a Mafia victory.
Town win if all Mafia are eliminated or one of the other Town win conditions are met.
Mafia win if they equal or exceed the number of remaining Town going into the dayphase or one of the other Town win conditions are met

Probably scumsided but maybe it'd be fun anyway?

I'd be curious at what playercount it is mathematically optimal for both Roles to randomly guess.

BBmolla · Post Post #50 (isolation #1) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:37 pm

In post 49, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 48, BBmolla wrote:If there is a unanimous vote on a player in the Wilderness (excluding the player being voted), that player is lynched at the end of the night phase.
That means if the Town puts two people into the Wilderness they vote each other and both get lynched, correct?

I’ll try to make wording more clear

If 8 people are in the Wilderness, in order to lynch a player, every single other player must vote that person, meaning 7 players need to vote one player. Technically unanimous means the player would have to vote himself which is all I meant to clarify.

BBmolla · Post Post #51 (isolation #2) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:44 pm

On the contrary, during the day it only takes each player getting one vote in order to be sent to The Wilderness. So Player A could vote Player B, Player B could vote A, they both go to the Wilderness. In theory everyone could just be voted into The Wilderness, but because you need at least one person not in The Wilderness who is town, that's suboptimal. There should be multiple votes on some players just as fillers.

Day votes are public if that's not clear.

BBmolla · Post Post #53 (isolation #3) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:49 am

In post 52, Jingle wrote:Hmm...

First, it's unclear, but I assume each guesser can only guess once.

Second, I wonder what forcing scummy players to make a guess in the thread does to confirm them as not Mafia Head. You could probably guarantee a D1 scumlynch.

I would just say fake Guesses are disallowed and result in Modkill.

Unless you think that’s a fun mechanic to include.

BBmolla · Post Post #55 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:53 am

Other option is getting rid of Self Shot completely

This allows Wilderness results to be more controlled

Let me think on it.

BBmolla · Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:15 pm

The Wilderness

14 players:

1 Mafia Head

2 Mafia Goons

1 Town Headhunter

10 Vanilla Townies

This game features
The Wilderness
.
- All players may discuss and privately vote during the day phase. Votes are messaged privately to the moderator.
- At deadline, the player who receives the most votes is lynched. In the case of a tie, the player to have reached that number of votes first is lynched.
- Once all votes have been placed, any who recieved at least one vote and is not the lynchee is moved into
  The Wilderness
  , a Private Topic where all members may talk amongst themselves, for the night.
- There are various things players may do in
  The Wilderness
  - Players may
    talk
    amongst themselves as much as they please.
  - All players within
    The Wilderness
    are participating in a game of
    "Ready, Aim, Fire!"
    that resolves upon the end of the night phase. They must privately submit one of the following actions:
    - Shoot PLAYER
      - Assuming the player is not protected or shoots themselves, the player dies.
    - Shoot SELF
      - If any amount of players shoot you, they die. If no one shoots you, you die.
  - Any invalid action will be switched to
    Shoot SELF
    .
  - Any shot player is killed and flips upon the start of the day phase.
  - The Wilderness
    is locked and is not to be used again. A new one is made for each night.
The
Headhunter
is an alternate win condition for the Town.
- During the day, the
  Headhunter
  may privately message the moderator to guess the identity of the
  Mafia Head.
  If he is correct, town immediately win.
- During the day, the
  Mafia Head
  may privately message the moderator to guess the identity of the
  Headhunter
  If he is correct, the
  Headhunter
  dies, and the
  Mafia Head
  becomes
  Deathproof
  .
  - Once
    Deathproof
    , the
    Mafia Head
    may still be voted into
    The Wilderness.
  - Once
    Deathproof
    , the Mafia win condition becomes White Flag.
- The
  Mafia Head
  cannot
  Shoot SELF
  .
- If the
  Headhunter
  shoots the
  Mafia Head
  in the
  The Wilderness
  and he dies, town immediately win.
- Once a guess is made, the other Role may not guess.
- If the guess is incorrect, the Mod posts in thread
  "An incorrect guess was made,"
  and the game continues.
Mafia do not have a nightkill.
If going into the night phase, all remaining town players are in
The Wilderness
, the game ends in a Mafia victory.
Town win if all Mafia are eliminated or one of the other Town win conditions are met.
Mafia win if they equal or exceed the number of remaining Town going into the dayphase or one of the other Town win conditions are met

Most of the time there will X players going to the wilderness where X is the number of Mafia, and that's probably fine.

BBmolla · Post Post #77 (isolation #6) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:26 am

In post 67, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 66, BBmolla wrote:
The Wilderness

14 players:

1 Mafia Head

2 Mafia Goons

1 Town Headhunter

8 Vanilla Townies

This game features
The Wilderness
.

All players may discuss and privately vote during the day phase. Votes are messaged privately to the moderator.

At deadline, the player who receives the most votes is lynched. In the case of a tie, the player to have reached that number of votes first is lynched.

Once all votes have been placed, any who recieved at least one vote and is not the lynchee is moved into
The Wilderness
, a Private Topic where all members may talk amongst themselves, for the night.

There are various things players may do in
The Wilderness

Players may
talk
amongst themselves as much as they please.

All players within
The Wilderness
are participating in a game of
"Ready, Aim, Fire!"
that resolves upon the end of the night phase. They must privately submit one of the following actions:
Shoot PLAYER
- Assuming the player is not protected or shoots themselves, the player dies.

Shoot SELF
- If any amount of players shoot you, they die. If no one shoots you, you die.

Any invalid action will be switched to
Shoot SELF
.

Any shot player is killed and flips upon the start of the day phase.

The Wilderness
is locked and is not to be used again. A new one is made for each night.

The
Headhunter
is an alternate win condition for the Town.
During the day, the
Headhunter
may privately message the moderator to guess the identity of the
Mafia Head.
If he is correct, town immediately win.

During the day, the
Mafia Head
may privately message the moderator to guess the identity of the
Headhunter
If he is correct, the
Headhunter
dies, and the
Mafia Head
becomes
Deathproof
.
Once
Deathproof
, the
Mafia Head
may still be voted into
The Wilderness.

Once
Deathproof
, the Mafia win condition becomes White Flag.

The
Mafia Head
cannot
Shoot SELF
.

If the
Headhunter
shoots the
Mafia Head
in the
The Wilderness
and he dies, town immediately win.

Once a guess is made, the other Role may not guess.

If the guess is incorrect, the Mod posts in thread
"An incorrect guess was made,"
and the game continues.

Mafia do not have a nightkill.

If going into the night phase, all remaining town players are in
The Wilderness
, the game ends in a Mafia victory.

Town win if all Mafia are eliminated or one of the other Town win conditions are met.

Mafia win if they equal or exceed the number of remaining Town going into the dayphase or one of the other Town win conditions are met

Most of the time there will X players going to the wilderness where X is the number of Mafia, and that's probably fine.

Day 1, ten seconds after the start of the Day: "/Guess [name of Mafia Head] as Mafia Head"

Game over!

Odds of that are 1/13 so I’m okay with it.

BBmolla · Post Post #80 (isolation #7) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:57 pm

In post 78, Jingle wrote:
In post 66, BBmolla wrote:14 players:
1 Mafia Head
2 Mafia Goons
1 Town Headhunter
8 Vanilla Townies
I just noticed that 1+1+2+8 is 12.

Fixed ty

BBmolla · Post Post #96 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:03 am

Yeah that’s a tight setup