Newbie 1915: Africa [Game Over!]

[skitter30]

@nmsa: who do you think is the scummiest player rn in {me/maryjo/salami}?

[u r a person 2]

@MJ don't feel bad. You'll likely never be tricked like this again ;P

I wasn't tricked. I was told by the ic not to do it. I trusted the ic's word because I believed that she was supposed to give me honest answers to help newbies out and I'm trying to play a clean game by the rules and the culture that exists on this forum.

i meant by the fake hammer

[u r a person 2]

This is just my opinion, but the day might end soon, and I'm starting to get that feeling like I won't be around tomorrow

Investigative checks are best used on the null reads.

You don't want to waste them on people town read by most of the game, and you don't want to use them on slots you're likely to flip early anyway because even if you town read them and prevent the lynch, there was probably a reason they were being scum read in the first place, and no one is really going to listen to their reads
But if you use them on those people in the middle, you can take a lot of uncertainty out of the game AND replace it with a confirmed town that can push their reads

so in this game, fmpov, that's people like MJL, BBmolla, and maybe

skitter

NMSA

bringing this up so people might find it

Also, JK and doctor should both be trying to save people they think might be NK'd. Don't try to use your JK ability for scum hunting this early on. Lock up a townie

[northsidegal]

A lynch has been achieved!

VC 1.FINAL

votes

[5] Salami

:

u r a person 2 607, TTTT 660, Elements 708, cbynumber 717, MaryJoLisa2 815

[2] MaryJoLisa2

:

skitter30 411, BBmolla 768

[1] skitter30

:

NotMySpamAccount 661

[1] TTTT

:

Salami 317

[0] Not Voting

:

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-11 15:56:59)

Mod Notes

:

[northsidegal]

Salami was lynched. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

Night 1 begins now and ends in (expired on 2019-02-12 12:52:59).

[northsidegal]

Note that I will accelerate the night if it is unanimously agreed upon.

[northsidegal]

u r a person 2 was killed. He was a

Town Cop

.

[northsidegal]

VC 2.0

votes

[7] Not Voting

:

Elements, NotMySpamAccount, cbynumber, MaryJoLisa, BBmolla, TTTT, skitter30

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-19 12:45:59)

Mod Notes

:

[MaryJoLisa]

Thank you, @Mod.

[TTTT]

I don't think I can be convinced to lynch outside of NotMy, skitter, or BB today
but feel free to try

[TTTT]

If Salami flips scum I’ll self vote

do it

[TTTT]

@skitter
if you are town
I need your help here
NotMy or BB?
and why?

[TTTT]

After reading through all of that, Here are my reads:

Elements: I can't tell from my gut, but maybe town?
Salami: After urap's stuff, I'm tending scum here.
cbynumber: Textwalls, scumhunting, probly town.
u r a person 2: Town as crap. Loads of scumhunting, loving it.
MaryJoLisa: Probably scum. Not enough content, just trying to defend herself.
BBmolla: Confusing. I kinda see the arguments coming out, but slowly. Gut leaning scum, but not much
TTTT: Lots of short posts, not a lot being said other than quick responses to questions. He's asking questions though, so null/town I guess.
skitter30: Textwalls galore, not sure if that's ai, but pretty much null. I just can't get any sort of gut read here at this point.

Would not lynch: urap, cby, myself
Would lynch: MJL, Salami, skitter
Not sure: elements, TTTT, BBmolla

VOTE: skitter30 because we're getting kinda close to the deadline and we need a lynch. I'm fine with this one, and most other people seem to be too.

why were you willing to lynch your null-read (skitter) instead of voting your scum-read (Salami)?

[TTTT]

for context...
661 was the next post after I put the 2nd vote on Salami
and included NotMy SRing Salami
but putting the 4th vote on skitter
he had a choice of making the Salami wagon (his claimed SR) even in votes to his null-read wagon
and he chose to put his null-read at L-1
really you should click on that post
and see how it's either a blatant attempt to derail Salami's wagon
or very very unlucky bad-town play

[TTTT]

VOTE: NotMy

[TTTT]

game
solved

[BBmolla]

VOTE: BBmolla

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

[TTTT]

ok now vote NotMy
thx

[BBmolla]

Mmmm idk

His Skitter vote seemed like a compromise to get a lynch, Skitter had 3 votes while Salami had 2.

[TTTT]

so he puts his nullread at L-1 instead of his scumread at L-2?
there were 2 days 17 hours left when he did that

[TTTT]

go read page 27 in it's entirety

[skitter30]

@skitter
if you are town
I need your help here
NotMy or BB?
and why?

elements and cby are town; you're probably town but i'm not as solid on that as on those two
i'm also not convinced of town!maryjo but i'm willing to consider the possibility that i may be tunneled. i don't like that she was itching to get on that wagon when she wasn't scumreading salami; at the same time, i think she *probably* doesn't repeatedly forget the vc on a partner
i'm not comfortable calling her town but i'll drop it for now
if people bussed on that wagon it's you or maryjo imo

i like that you called bbmolla out on the self-vote; i was going to do that but you did it first. honestly, it's a little ballsy of scum!him to promise to self-vote in the event that his partner flips scum, while watching the wagon build and refusing to participate in it; honetly my gut says that whole interaction doesn't come from scum.

wrt nmsa's 661 - i actually don't have much of a problem with that post inherently: i can see newbscum trying to stave off a wagon on their partner. i can also see newbtown being concerned about the vc and wanting to make sure a lynch happened and prioritizing *a lynch* that's more viable over a scum lynch that he thinks is less likely to happen.
i find the deadline excuse to be a little bit shaky tho given that there were a few days left till deadline at that point

however, i find 816 to be worse - he's scumread is at L-1 and he votes the maryjo wagon, which, of course, i am the only person on at that point. to me that feels more like trying to build a cw than 661 given that he's completely willing to hammer but chooses not to and maryjo wasn't really happening at that point. he also completely ignores the fake-hammer thing.

[skitter30]

VOTE: not my spam account

[northsidegal]

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