Mini 2057: Year 2057 (Game Over)

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Welcome to today's game. It is a pleasure to see you all.

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VOTE: DrDolittle

Gonna have to agree with Dannflor here.

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I definitely feel DrDolittle is trying to hide something. At least the random voters are honest and true.

ssbm_Kyouko is probably town btw

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I'll concede it was basically page 1 (post 26, and the mod took the pagetop) but first you said you wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then you said random, so which is it?

Let's get this wagon rolling folks

Since he said random, then that he wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then random again... his vote is baseless and Lovebird is town. That's a complete 360 right there.

You know what this means...

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips

Flippynips wagon is bad

I'm not sure about that...

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How the hell do you get Lovebird is town from that

If Lovebird turns out to be scumbird then I will be very surprised.

Especially now since there are scumreads floating around and the vote isn't even pretending to be a scumread.

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How the hell do you get Lovebird is town from that

If Lovebird turns out to be scumbird then I will be very surprised.

Especially now since there are scumreads floating around and the vote isn't even pretending to be a scumread.

Scumreads floating around who, Lovebird?

Which vote?

DrDolittle and Emperor are the popular scumreads as of now. As for Lovebird's scumread, isn't that just Emperor?

Emperor's vote for Lovebird is the relevant vote.

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What do you two think about Lovebird's entrance and subsequent wagon hop? Scummy or just lazy town?

Definitely just lazy town, though I don't see scumreads as implausible.

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Emperor, Dannflor, DrDolittle, and Gamma all register as "potentially scum" to me.

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Why Emperor? You have to justify it more than his RVS vote.

I looked at his ISO and his reason for his scumread doesn't hold up anymore.

Lovebird is still "potentially town" though.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Mary is strictly NAI with a side of fries.

Radiant's not really NAI but not really town either. Can't decide yet though so w/e.

Here's my case he's a wolf

What am I supposed to case in his six posts

Sure I'll make a case

Yeah I'd like to hear your case.

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I'm going to define a new term here because I don't think it's something that's in the popular lexicon and I think it's really important to reading newbies in particular.
There's a lie detecting tell with people in real life where when they're lying they give extraneous details, overexplain things, etc.
The mafia equivalent which we see in these posts is all this excessive fluff added on to these votes.
I'm gonna call it "scum overwording" and it's one of the most tried and true scumtells when it comes to reading newbies.
Notably I have played with more newbies than anyone else in this game and probably in site history, so that should come up with a lot of force behind it.

You seem to be very confident with declaring me a wolf with very little substance, so it's not like the ball is in my court.

Another major thing is the lack of newbie unconfidence with the reads. There's no explanations behind things. He just kinda comes up with reads. SSBM town, no explanation. Lovebird town was complete what the fuck and though that kind of overreading into associatives is reasonably common from newbies the original read that lovebird came from was totally out of nowhere.

There is nothing that suggests SSBM could be scum. Fight me.

this too is inconsistent in and of itself: 'definitely town' but the scumreads aren't implausible. wolfy out the ass.

As in I don't think reading Lovebird as scum would be completely unjustifiable, but as of now lovebird is town and something would have to happen for lovebird to not be town.

this is just a pretty typical scum readslist sooo

yeah

no they're just scum. we can lynch them at any point. i wouldn't mind stalling out the day phase but they're gonna be in antispew indefinitely and if it means that we're even slightly likely to end up not lynching temporallich it's better to just take the scum flip and move on to tomorrow.

Antispew? What even?

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There is nothing that suggests SSBM could be scum. Fight me.

What suggests that SSBM is town to you?

There's nothing scummy in his ISO. Of course, nothing scummy is merely neutral at worst.

To add some weight to the town_Kyouko theory, he seems to be of the confident demeanor so he won't back down if the pressure were to ever fall on him.

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Btw sorry about this game TL

good luck in your next one

At least try to not look like scum.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

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Btw sorry about this game TL

good luck in your next one

At least try to not look like scum.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Tell me how you're not playing survivalistic/super OMGUSy here

That heavily implies I'm either going to be the lynch or the NK target.

Neither is towny, so RC is scumlock

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Since some people are trying to fight the obvscum lynch I guess I'll engage with this

How is assuming that you're going to be the lynch when you're already the largest wagon scummy for me? What's my scum motivation going after you? How does something not being Towny necessarily make me auto scumlock?

That's pretty much neutral play. But the chance of you meaning I'm the NK target is where the scumread goldmine is.

Also before that I already was registering you as scum so w/e

Scumlock for safety now.

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Since some people are trying to fight the obvscum lynch I guess I'll engage with this

How is assuming that you're going to be the lynch when you're already the largest wagon scummy for me? What's my scum motivation going after you? How does something not being Towny necessarily make me auto scumlock?

That's pretty much neutral play. But the chance of you meaning I'm the NK target is where the scumread goldmine is.

Also before that I already was registering you as scum so w/e

Scumlock for safety now.

If RC is scum (doubtful) who are his buddies?

Probably nobody, RC seems very isolationist. That probably means RC is the SK though.

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For arguments sake though, you think SK!RC would try to lead a lynch day 1 and risk getting NKed that night or lynched the next day?

No but this sounds like WIFOM don't you think?

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No but this sounds like WIFOM don't you think?

I don't get it though, why did SK pop up instead of just Scum or against town?

Let's be real here, RC is scum either way. RC doesn't even seem to appear to have any buddies so SK is somewhat more likely than Mafia.

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are you saying you're not getting any associatives with RC?
i've just skimmed the wiki (link above), there is no 3rd party role..so who do you think are RC's buddies now? i think TL's vote on RC is just an OMGUS vote..

Yes. RC is acting like a lone wolf.

Emperor if you swear loyalty to me I will spare you this lynch

I'd say since RC and Emperor seemed to be buddies early game, Emperor might be RC's buddy.

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Please don't D1 hammer me..

Otherwise you might lose sight

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That's not how a real watcher? softs

... except I'm not the watcher.

Please explain why I shouldn't investigate you this night.

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If I'm the D1 hammer, just know that RC is probably scum.

In the 1% chance that we have RadiantTownbells, town should do a double take.

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Lich what other reads do you have, RC removed from the equation

If RC comes up innocent then it's Gamma/Emp.

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Lich what other reads do you have, RC removed from the equation

If RC comes up innocent then it's Gamma/Emp.

why?

I've already explained Emp. TL;DR he is mendacious.

Gamma because she's the least expected scum to be plausible.

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wow the town had LyLo in the bag, good job town

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If they were Daytalking Masons, then it's very obvious they'd win LyLo

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Same for me \o/