Mini Normal 2052: Mixtape Mafia [Game Over]

[Delta Diamond]

hey guys

VOTE: Trekkie

thanks for letting me play

[Delta Diamond]

i like ur name gamma emerald

[Delta Diamond]

A Masonry, 2 neighborhoods, and a PT Cop?

What is this game?

IKR? Man I'm feeling left out.

my mom let me on late 2nite as long as i promised not to smoke tobacco cigarettes and marijuana cigarettes too

to me this seems like you are trying 2 appear as left out townie when u really r maybe the wolf alignment but not saying it directly

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: DD

y did u do that

[Delta Diamond]

good idea i am vannila townie

[Delta Diamond]

Delta Diamond replaces EGL, three cheers to them for speedy replacements

Whomst’d The Fuck
Bitch be creepin’ on my mojo, man!

bad language kinda cool tho lol

i chose the name cuz delta means change in roman and i like diamonds in minecraft so it was a conicdence but a funny one so thats why i said about your name!

haha

[Delta Diamond]

Pokémon Emerald to be clear

oh idk pokeman or if i should talk about it ill have to ask

[Delta Diamond]

Where's Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby?

is that from bible?

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: Overkill

have u been doing bad things

[Delta Diamond]

actually no

VOTE: springtrap

[Delta Diamond]

masons+PT cop is a lot, munch mentioned killing him today if he was alive and is dead, and his whole play has revolved around setup spec and his claim with little actual effort towards sorting, like you would expect from someone with an investigative role

Clem did call out my urge and habit of fake claiming. Perhaps scum took that to heart and assumed I was just a VT?

Well I (Springtrap) don't value a fake claim. I promise you that I'm a PT Cop.

Let's look at all the claims currently said and take notes.

last line feels especially bad, like okay ever1 do work but no work is done himself

trekkie scumread seems to have disappeared so i think it might be distancing

pretty sure ST is scum PT cop

[Delta Diamond]

doesn’t change lack of any indacation of sort

Also this isn’t same it’s more

[Delta Diamond]

being afraid to lynch a PR is exactly why mafia claim PR

how long do we wait to lynch him? Surely not lylo

VOTE: Overkill

2 of (Overkill/Trekkie/ST)

[Delta Diamond]

I think the Munchmellow kill points to Overkill town. I don't think scum claims their neighbourhood right out of the gate and immediately kills them.

As much as I thought that Overkill was scum, this was my first thought too. It would be bananas for scum to kill the non-scum neighbor. And then my second thought was, Or would it? Too much wine, but I'm willing to give Overkill the benefit of doubt today.

??

[Delta Diamond]

Yeah, I changed my mind.

wat led u 2 that

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: Trekkie

wat ever happened to this

[Delta Diamond]

Can there be two PT cops?

[Delta Diamond]

i was talking about SpringTrap, not u

[Delta Diamond]

I joke around a lot when I'm close to being lynched as town or scum. Under the assumption I'm town, who on my wagon is most likely to be scum?

if u were town here you’d be giving out reads instead of asking others to assume ur town

which ur not

[Delta Diamond]

we have too people voting on masons and not scumhunting

those should be the only 2 wagons

take away st pr claim and it’s very scummy

if town has masons and neighbors and Neighborizer pt cop works just as well with town as scum, so we need to stop believing the claim and also letting him not do anything productive

believing the claim is something we disagree on, lack of useful play and strong stances should be something we all can nod yes

read ST iso as someone who isn’t claimed and tell me the read

[Delta Diamond]

I thought you all were clearing Overkill becayse of the neighborhood?

I've been on NotMaf because frankly I doubt it's a Masonry, but instead another Neighborhood that's claiming to be a Masonry since they'd automatically get hung if they also claimed to be neighbors.

That or they're scum.

instead of saying they’re scum and using setup spec

give in-game reasons in the thread

like I am with u

[Delta Diamond]

....jenga

You post multiple long posts about stuff and best reason to vote me is person I replaced replace out cuz masons?

I don’t believe u.

chainsaw maybe for ST or Trek?

[Delta Diamond]

wats wrong with asking about more PT cops? I was very curious

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: Clemency

VOTE: Not_Mafia

u did the thing u accuse me of too lol

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: Springtrap

1v1 me

maf would kill the person capable of getting more innos

not masons

[Delta Diamond]

masons is a lot of power

Neighborizer is weaker

read on ST is still mainly actual play but scum pt cop makes sense in the setup

and the fact they’re alive makes zero sense

like I know I probably lose this push today so what do I gain keeping him alive as scum to get more innos?

[Delta Diamond]

I also played with a scenario where DD/ST is S/S but that scenario also involves DD being scum, which matches my read anyway

VOTE: DD

wat

i can explain

is another scum knowing ST will flip scum and trying to set me up to be a buddy

it’s like a chainsaw and distancing at the same time

[Delta Diamond]

I don't understand why you're limiting to just those people. You have literally never said "texcat" or "Vorkuta" in your iso as far as I can tell. Why are you excluding them from your reasoning?

actually no this interaction isn’t s/s between ST and Jenga so Jenga can be paranoid town

[Delta Diamond]

im bad ignore that for the most part, I swear there were less people alive. Anyway im confused on why the hell springtrap is still alive and that makes me worried.

Basically I look at DD coming in today wanting a hard 1v1 with Springtrap. Springtrap hasn't really put a lot of work into looking townie, and of the three claimed tprs, he is the only one that actually could be mislynched (if he is town).

A. If Springtrap is not a real PT cop, I don't know where the rest of the real town power is
B. DD's predecessor repped out under possibly the scummiest circumstances given he just PM'd the mod basically as soon as the masons he was pushing claimed
C. DD is pushing Springtrap today without even really waiting for Springtrap to out results or understand it

I guess he is arguing I am just "paranoid town" but between A and B on their own I really want to favor Springtrap here.

Basically, in my understanding, scum want a good mislynch today.

If Springtrap guiltied one of them, they probably would try to 1v1 him. I actually thought this was the reason DD might have pushed Springtrap at first--he might have thought Springtrap was going to announce a guilty on him, and wanted to push the investigative first.

I did wonder whether scum might not know the rest of town's power structure. Would they keep Springtrap alive out of fear of their kill being wasted on a doctor? The problem here would be that if this was the case, then they would have killed someone who had not claimed yet, not a mason.

But the question then remains, why would they not kill PT cop over a mason given that. But as Pvt just pointed out, the paranoia about Springtrap makes him the most likely mislynch today, if he is town. And whereas an additional clear would be bad, scum's actual winrate--if Springtrap is real town power here--is actually quite high.

a. wait for the mass claim then yikes
b. town rep out due to frustration with the game, this has to be the worst push I've seen in a while
c. i've had two days of "content" to understand springtrap, I'm good on my read, thx

[Delta Diamond]

Like, you start the day as "1v1 me let's go rn!"

and now you're like

"whoa whoa whoa, slow down and finish the mass claim"

It seems like you felt like town had enough information to make an informed decision at the start of the day and now, you're not exactly backpedaling, but you are really changing tones

you're the one worried about setup spec not me

im saying yikes wait for the mass claim if you're worried about town power

im really not

his play has been scummy, hes used the claim as a crux, as have other people, and so now its time to lynch him

[Delta Diamond]

lol tone change

come on

that was obviously in response to something you said not something i just came up with out of the blue

really

[Delta Diamond]

oh my goooood

i’m focused on it

you’re worried about it

newsflash: those are different

you’re not this oblivious to context?

[Delta Diamond]

my scumread is on SP because of play, setup spec supports this

ur using purely setup spec to counter

it is ok for me to tell you to wait for the full setup because my argument doesn’t hinge on it while urs does

unless u want to look thru that iso and tell me SP is town?

lol

[Delta Diamond]

also my entire push is def not based on that

my entire push TODAY is

but not my entire push

still think ur town based on that interaction with SP but ur pissing me off

[Delta Diamond]

Neighborizer/2 Masons/Fruit Vendor and Motion Detector

is for sure enough town power, if you just have a Mafia PT cop and 2 goons.

Neighborizer/2 Masons/Fruit Vendor Motion Detector/PT Cop could lead to so many innos. PT cop needs two non-mason clears to basically have a third of the player list cleared of being everything but traitor.

without Gammas claim I might buy it but there’s no way with the claim I buy it

I figured there was a bit more town pwr

[Delta Diamond]

Ohh are you confused because that part should have said day 6?

yeah

that’s how I read it at first as well then reread it and realized what you meant

[Delta Diamond]

theres a world where the PT cop is town and gamma is a traitor and the loud visit is meant to signify to mafia who she is, and traitor weakens PT cop a bit

sorry just saw loud and not fruit

[Delta Diamond]

that could be it I guess maybe I’m tunneling

but all those Town PRs even if they are weak is so much with a PT cop possible innos

it’s not like a traffic analyst it is a full blown pt cop and with masons now confirmed that’s just so townsided

[Delta Diamond]

Jenga has been way more solvey and genuine and has some conflicting associative with ST, so I think

VOTE: texcat

then

[Delta Diamond]

Tex deciding not to push me with the small lynchpool

hm

I’d rather Overkill now.

VOTE: Overkill

[Delta Diamond]

I relish these condiment puns

[Delta Diamond]

vork your 180 on springtrap is sus as fuck

and I think you might be playing to the worse parts of my paranoia

idk

this game is weird. The two options seem either too scumsided or too townsided for the setups

the PT cop is scummy but my only ally made such a weird push it made me rethink the read

no offense but you guys confuse and upset me

[Delta Diamond]

like now that everyone has a small lynchpool vork is freaking out but where were they when I was pushing D2

honestly traps post today are more solvey and read a bit more town, having trouble seeing how anyone trying to figure the game out feels worse about the slot D3

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: vorkuta

I'm willing to go along with our 2 confirmed town on someone I suspect.

that vote couldnt have been more manufactured if it jus came fresh off the line at a GM plant

[Delta Diamond]

VOTE: vorkuta

[Delta Diamond]

Ok let's go

like now that everyone has a small lynchpool vork is freaking out but where were they when I was pushing D2

I was
-pushing for a massclaim to try and get things sorted out
-trying to do PoE to determine what happens assuming everyone who claimed wasn't lying and wasn't happy with the conclusion I came to

@Jaina and @Overkill- what are your thoughts on POTENTIAL springtrap shenanigans?
Do you refuse to acknoweldge that possibility at all?

okay but its scum motivated so

[Delta Diamond]

sorry been busy with trig I’m not doing well

VOTE: Texcat

[Delta Diamond]

... Delta, please tell me you realize you just hammered Tex before everyone checked in today.

He needs five votes

You said yours makes three

[Delta Diamond]

He’s at four now

Chill

[Delta Diamond]

You literally did not say that but okay

[Delta Diamond]

Jenga double voted, so Tex is still at 3 votes. As I'm writing this, there's 14 hours left in the day.

VOTE: Texcat

I'm still online if we have a shift today, just so you all know. Hammering still shouldn't hanmer immediately, I want everyone to speak before the night. Especially Gamma, considering he's the other PR claim.

I read that as your vote being included in the three.

[Delta Diamond]

I’m not grilling you.

You said you “specifically said” you’re vote was L-1 and you did not.

I didn’t count the votes and I misunderstood your post. I’m sorry. It’s my bad.

But don’t say you did something you didn’t do.

I don’t think it’s AI, just really annoying.

[Delta Diamond]

889 and 892 together is basically a scum claim.

[Delta Diamond]

“what’s the PT result?”

nvm just gonna throw the game and vote in lylo

yeah no

even bad town would wait for the result.

[Delta Diamond]

Then why would the Pt cop result matter? Why ask then reneg on the thought process?

Also, why not pressure the other “two”unclears?

You opened today immediately making sure I, and only I, was the focus of discussion. That’s not town play, it’s someone trying to drive home a ML before the buddies have the chance to screw it up.

[Delta Diamond]

oh my god

it was you

god dammit

[Delta Diamond]

lol

im surprised youre scum

what you said was blatantly false, if you had been reading the thread even remotely to solve you would have noticed i backed off you yesterday because of gamma's claim and an increase in gamesolving

if the plan was to push you i wouldn't have backed off yesterday

i obviously shouldnt have

my bad.

[Delta Diamond]

its fine you have to fake a guilty on me, it makes sense for you here

but if youre going to retroactively cobble together a narrative on why its me at least try to maker it based on things that actually happened in the thread

[Delta Diamond]

Look Delta- I'm not changing my vote.

-There's no way anyone that's conf!town would entertain a wagon on Springtrap in Lylo. If you can't beat em, join em.
-Your acting feels.... bad and forced?
-I buy the "town power" thing- 2 masons, and a "fruit vendor" (visitor) simply feels dumb.
-Other players who have experience with setups are comfortable with the idea that he's we have a town PT cop.

Chalk it up to my inexperience/inability to do otherwise, but I'm going to play the rest of the game assuming springtrap is town.

yeah, its a bad setup

it being lylo does not matter in terms of ST's alignment

[Delta Diamond]

What's there to fake? I checked you primarily because you tried to say you misintrepreted what I said as it not being at L-1. But you also started that day pushing me as well? Just because you backed off doesnt mean it didn't happen.

but if the plan was to push you in lylo why back off halfway thru the day before

i know your answer isnt genuine but it might help the rest of the class see thru that BS