Mini Normal 2055: egyptian mau cats [Endgame]

[Dunnstral]

Also I want to lurkers ty

You want to what?

[Dunnstral]

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My reaction to reading the thread

[Dunnstral]

My point is people can lie about night actions so it's not 100 percent indicative.

How is this related to anything else you said

[Dunnstral]

- Please make sure all votes are on a new line. I counted the first one because I didn't want to be petty.

In case you still can't read, like Mohab

[Dunnstral]

Nope but even a guilty result doesn't equal scum, you just have to work with what you have and in my opinion it's the scummiest thing that has happened to this point, which admittedly isn't much.

Sigh. I am assuming you guys have missed it, but I hope I am wrong.

"even a guilty" is a synonym for crime. The user here uses strong, vivid wording which clearly identifies their target audience in the retrospectal relativity of the admitted, or for a lack of word, assumed location. It's a simplifying anti-dated vision based on an unindicative indicator that should not be used in terms of theoretical point programs.

"scum" is a far too common of a word that statistically speaking, it should not be in this game on the forty-first post from a user with a supposed colour in their name. It's clear that 94.0052 +- 0.227% of users will use the word 'scum' once in their game (at least), but it's more profound to use it in a more formal or set-up situation with clear-cut definitions and wording.


"which admittedly isn't much" is clearly an ice-breaker style conversing momentum which often carries extra weight based on the time of day of the user; calculating statistically, it's 99.700214 +- 0.112% likely that the user wouldn't use this unless there is an intentional manipulation of tone and environment.

Seems like we've got the culprit; VOTE: Echovision

And ok.... after all this explanation why did you vote for echovision instead? Was this supposed to be a joke?

[Dunnstral]

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My reaction to reading the thread

Also your contribution to said thread.

yeah ok

[Dunnstral]

Who accused you of discussing roles?

[Dunnstral]

I don't like how you are talking about roles this early, nor the fact that u immmediately jumped on my acusations of Tarkus without noticing my mistake counting the votes.

VOTE: YellowSnow.

ok, I see it now

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Ironman Btw2

[Dunnstral]

"let's wagon the noob player" its what you guys are typing in your Mafia Chat. Shameful guys =(

Hey Ironman, just wondering, what led you to believe that scum could talk during the day?

[Dunnstral]

Why not?

Because he rarely does anything relevant.

link?

I can back PP up on this one

[Dunnstral]

I'm not saying we should give him a free pass or anything

[Dunnstral]

I feel like Iron looking for other reasons to justify his thinking scum had daytalk is indicative of him assuming that he somehow messed up

I'd expect a town response to be to link to the first post where it does say mafia have daytalk - it's possible that he assumed it didn't say that because I asked him

[Dunnstral]

That's @penguin saying they see no scumslip

[Dunnstral]

I think I am onto a scumlean here. Forgot who it was but I think I found one while reasing page 5. Will try to recheck and see if there are any holes then post tomirrow.

This is all around a weird post

[Dunnstral]

I didn't like Penguin calling out my "contribution to the thread" at the very start of the game

[Dunnstral]

Ok you can command my vote until you can't

Why penguinpower in particular?

Do you consider a response to post 12 unimportant or have you read literally nothing

[Dunnstral]

@YellowSnow: I dont find either to be particularly townie, but i guess wagoning is scummier in my book. But this is indeed a pretty active game and some players havent said much, and i would like to hear from them. So far i like my vote where it is, that can easily change.

@Dunnstral: Yes i messed up indeed. I looked back on the initial post after your question, and missed line "4.scum can day talk." And talked about an ongoing game, which is not the best behavior and i do apologize for that.

I'm not talking about the ongoing game thing

I think in general you looking elsewhere to justify you saying scum had day talk was a bad look

[Dunnstral]

I’m going by the “goon” title and the fact I flipped through games to see if they had been in at least a couple. I don’t rely much on meta, but the piece here it was valid to differentiate between ignorance of site culture and feigned ignorance to avoid giving reads.

Right...

Well, let's do a bit more meta than looking at Mohab's title, why don't we?

Spoiler:

Subject: Mini Normal 1999: BooneyToonz VII - Join the Boonguard!

I've discord my intellectual capacity's immense near-limitless powers, and I've succesfully identified, with a 100% success rate, the members of the mafia group. However, I refuse to say the answers out loud, and I'll play along with your feeble minds in this game, so some of you humans can have fun. Do not expect though, that I'll not try to win; I'll surely try to win, but only use 1% of my intellectual powers, as to make this a fair game.

VOTE screenplay

Welcome, Mohab500, you are a Vanilla Townie.

Abilities:
• During the day, you can vote and talk
• You do nothing special.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here.. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

I don't understand what the point of this "meta" was by the way, did I miss something?

[Dunnstral]

I thought you were being mean for my typo so I ignored

I want to lurk this game

Pp is town I think

No I thought you were saying you wanted to do something to lurkers in this game

I'm not sure adding an e and then an r is a "typo" exactly in any case, at that point you're using the wrong word

[Dunnstral]

It makes complete sense to assume that scum would have daychat by default in Mafia.

Debatable and depends on background

[Dunnstral]

I think I am onto a scumlean here. Forgot who it was but I think I found one while reasing page 5. Will try to recheck and see if there are any holes then post tomirrow.

Was 107 what you saw?

[Dunnstral]

Hold on a second. I asked him why he thought day talk was common, he never said that it was common on his home sight", so speculating that it could be is a waste of time - he attributed it to something completely different from this site, after all

[Dunnstral]

who here knows dunnstral meta

I feel like you played a game with me recently and should have learned a lesson

I don't remember which game it was

mohab, how has your philosophy of playing as scum changed (if it has) since you played in Newbie 1850?
specifically what do you think of your advice in this post from your scumchat in that game?

I took a look at this

I'm probably willing to vote Mohab now, his play here looks similar to what he's saying there, though that was from a full year ago

[Dunnstral]

You can check out excalibur for my most recent scum game

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=77881

[Dunnstral]

Playing aggressive isn't scum indicative though

[Dunnstral]

I have a better idea.

Pp can you sum up Dunn meta and see whether he is in his scum range and Dunn could you sum up pp meta and see whether if he is in his scum range

Don't know how to sum up his meta, I wouldn't say he's out of his scum range

[Dunnstral]

then got more for not knowing pp = penguinpower.

No he didn't

[Dunnstral]

Why did we all unvote Ironman?

[Dunnstral]

Clemency voted me in post 6 and hasn't even talked about the wagons since

[Dunnstral]

D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.
D1 lynch jailor.

Are you claiming a role?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Ironman Btw2

[Dunnstral]

Why don't you want to lynch Clemency? He has zero town value.

Lynching people with zero town value doesn't win us the game

[Dunnstral]

So why are you voting someone who siteflaked?

Because I think they're scum

[Dunnstral]

Same reasons I gave before, plus he went from like 5 votes to just me voting him and everybody stopped talking about him. You can't equate me voting Ironman to:

Why don't you want to lynch Clemency? He has zero town value.

[Dunnstral]

How about no

[Dunnstral]

what

You were on about someone else site flaking earlier

[Dunnstral]

i dont like the people who are voting yellowsnow cri

Go on...

[Dunnstral]

y wait to talk if ur mind is made up

u can always unvote if ur mind is changed

also why voice frustration broo ur bringing in the negative vibes which are no bueno

only happy thoughts here

Why are you egging him on to vote yellow when it seems like you don't want the wagon yourself?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: OkaPoka

Since we're not getting Ironman it seems, I think Oka looks scummy in their response/dealings with YellowSnow wagon

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: OkaPoka

Since we're not getting Ironman it seems, I think Oka looks scummy in their response/dealings with YellowSnow wagon

we have 12 days left why are you giving up on your preferred lynch to move to another player with zero votes?

Honestly I thought this day phase had been going on for a lot longer, like 5 days, and so it seemed like I was just sitting on iron with no progress. I don't know why I thought that, it's only been 2 days I guess.

Still, it seemed like I was just sitting on Iron with nobody even wanting to talk about him (let alone vote him) because "he siteflaked" - as if that means he's not scum (it's not even the reason I was voting him)

[Dunnstral]

i have an idea

we let clemency decide the lynch today

if its town we lynch him tmr

if its scum we follow him until he lynches town

VOTE: yellowsnow
allons-y

i dont like the people who are voting yellowsnow cri

nothing more to say lol

just a badly composed wagon of people with baggage

12 hours to switch my vote to somewhere else before i find new leader

{CoA}
{PP}
{Clem, TTTT}
{Dunn, Echo}
{Ironman}
{Tarkus, roster}
{OkaPoka}
{YellowSnow}

OkaPoka becomes scummier on a YS scumflip, rosterfoster scummier on a YS townflip.

y wait to talk if ur mind is made up

u can always unvote if ur mind is changed

also why voice frustration broo ur bringing in the negative vibes which are no bueno

only happy thoughts here

Why are you egging him on to vote yellow when it seems like you don't want the wagon yourself?

i like it when people are at l1

i also like the ability to hold the hammer

now i can have best of both worlds

oh wait question is different

i dont have yellowsnow as a townread so there is that

VOTE: echo vision

My liberation begins

This progression is what I don't like - It seems he has multiple reasons to vote Yellow but kind of sits on the fence instead, after COA says something about Oka being scummier on a yellow scumflip he feels the need to mention that he's not townreading yellow then votes elsewhere anyway

[Dunnstral]

Still, it seemed like I was just sitting on Iron with nobody even wanting to talk about him (let alone vote him) because "he siteflaked" - as if that means he's not scum (it's not even the reason I was voting him)

Maybe let someone with less posts than the mod who has siteflaked be replaced so we can actually sort the slot...

:thinking:

Iron was scummy

We got him up to 4 votes

He was active in the thread at this time

And then everybody flew off him to vote whoever else

I asked why we all unvoted Iron

Nobody responded

We lynched town

Then we started this yellow wagon

And now you're here acting like I'm voting Iron because he's inactive or something

He was active, in thread, and you all unvoted him and stopped talking about him - that isn't right, and no amount of pointing to his site flaking that happened after the fact is going to change that

[Dunnstral]

What made you think I was town and then changed your opinion?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Vedith

Are you guys glad we waited for a replacement now?

[Dunnstral]

Let's talk about the night kill

Penguin didn't want to kill Yellowsnow

Thought CoA was town

had no opinion on anybody else (to my knowledge)

Night 1, slaxx was killed. Unsure of his stance but he didn't seem like he was for lynching yellowsnow either.

I know somebody will call wifom on this - why has nobody brought these up yet though? We just go back to voting yellowsnow?

Vedith's slot should have been the day 1 lynch.

[Dunnstral]

Vedith > Rosterfoster > Tarkus

That's where I'm at for a scum list

[Dunnstral]

Somebody asks me this every game day

[Dunnstral]

How is Vedith 100% town?

[Dunnstral]

And roster, and tarkus. Oh, and it's not yellow

[Dunnstral]

Vedith why are you mucking around so much? Why are you stirring up stuff

[Dunnstral]

What happened to getting people to claim before lynching them?

[Dunnstral]

Is that why you were voting Clemency all day?

[Dunnstral]

So you admit you just bussed vedith?

Did you vote because of rosterfoster?

[Dunnstral]

Tarkus > Roster > YellowSnow/Echovision

That's what my reads look like right now, Yellow coming in and hammering like that while saying Clemency was bussing seems scum motivated, roster is just really scummy, Tarkus is barely here and their votes make little sense, Echovision has been questionable honestly, TTTT and CoA are towny, Clemency is null but probably town if Vedith is scum

[Dunnstral]

maybe they saw mod confirm received actions in scumthread and thought that meant it was successful.

I thought the argument was that he wasn't receiving confirmation though?

Yellow, to confirm, you have confirmation that Echo received a fruit, and Echo is claiming not to have received one.

[Dunnstral]

Nevermind, I get what you're saying

[Dunnstral]

Why don't we mass claim?

[Dunnstral]

So how about echo claims?

[Dunnstral]

I claim roleblocked.

Mass claim, let's go.

[Dunnstral]

I'm a neighborizor
n1 slaxx (died same night, but a neighborhood opened up with just me in it)
n2 CoA and it worked and we talked until he died
n3 Tried to get TTTT after talking with COA, it didn't work (I was roleblocked)
n4 I tried to target EchoVision, it didn't work (I was roleblocked)

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: TTTT

[Dunnstral]

What were Mafia's actual roles?

I was an odd night fruit vendor, even night neighborizor
Tarkus was a 1-shot fruit vendor

[Dunnstral]

VC 4.0


Not Voting - Clemency, Dunnstral, EchoVision, rosterfoster, Tarkus, TTTT, YellowSnow


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 begins now and ends in (expired on 2019-02-24 20:00:00).

tarkus are u town
VOTE: Clemency

sigh
this is why i said vote yellowsnow
VOTE: yellowsnow