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Post Post #40 (isolation #0) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:40 am

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Interesting opening so far. Feel like Yumeko is town already.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #1) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:33 am

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In post 9, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 4, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have a pregame guilty on an unspecified player

I am going to allow the game to play out as normal for a few days to get some associatives from them then we'll Lynch them

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I don’t know how I feel about this
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Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:35 am

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In post 19, Dannflor wrote:
In post 16, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: DrDolittle

Gonna have to agree with Dannflor here.
VOTE: TemporalLich

disagree with you agreeing with me
Explain? I take special interest in this post due to past problems with early agreeing with people.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #3) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:38 am

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In post 34, Hopkirk wrote:Haven't played forum mafia in 6 months due to work stuff. Played about 80 hours of irl mafia in that time so not fully out of practice. That being said it'd be really helpful if people would post pictures of their face whenever they post something suspicious? Recording yourself reading your posts works too.
That requires people to admit their own posts are suspicious, which while I might do that if specifically asked I doubt many others would.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 47, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 43, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 34, Hopkirk wrote:Haven't played forum mafia in 6 months due to work stuff. Played about 80 hours of irl mafia in that time so not fully out of practice. That being said it'd be really helpful if people would post pictures of their face whenever they post something suspicious? Recording yourself reading your posts works too.
That requires people to admit their own posts are suspicious, which while I might do that if specifically asked I doubt many others would.
This is a shockingly good point. Can you record yourself reading it?
Probably not lol
I live with my dad and don't want to disturb him with my stupid shit.
In post 49, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 41, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 9, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 4, RadiantCowbells wrote:I have a pregame guilty on an unspecified player

I am going to allow the game to play out as normal for a few days to get some associatives from them then we'll Lynch them

I thank you all for your cooperation
I don’t know how I feel about this
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You talking about me or cowbells over here?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 59, Dannflor wrote:
In post 42, Gamma Emerald wrote:Explain? I take special interest in this post due to past problems with early agreeing with people.
Just paranoia, mostly.
Reasonable. Were there something else to it I'd probably keep discussing it.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:06 pm

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In post 69, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Anyways I was just being lazy and didn’t feel like looking at everyone’s name to see who I wanted to RVS.
And yet you voted someone who hadn't posted. Do you see a problem there? Because I do.
VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips
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Post Post #98 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:07 pm

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In post 82, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I guess text selection and Q+ doesn't work on mobile the same as desktop :(

Only meant to quote Dann's question
Yeah it's screwy
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Post Post #102 (isolation #8) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:48 pm

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There's a VC on that page actually so I'll drop it.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #125 (isolation #9) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:21 am

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In post 104, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Gamma
Challenge me.
Nah. Better to die in a blaze of glory than fade into obscurity anyway.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #10) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 113, Mary Saotome wrote:
Spoiler: the Lichi bw
In post 77, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: temporallich

This is 1 wolf
In post 79, Dannflor wrote:Emperor's responses have been very town
Since he said random, then that he wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then random again... his vote is baseless and Lovebird is town. That's a complete 360 right there.
How the hell do you get Lovebird is town from that

VOTE: TemporalLich
In post 81, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 77, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: temporallich

This is 1 wolf
Yeah I think you might be right
In post 90, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Ok flippy, I'm satisfied for now.

VOTE: TemporalLich
This guy's jumped on 2 wagons using other people's args twice and he said I was towny so he's next up
In post 92, Lovebird wrote:This game, I'm going to sheep my townreads.

VOTE: Lich
This is certainly interesting. Might nor be relevent now, but it sure will be later.
In post 97, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 69, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Anyways I was just being lazy and didn’t feel like looking at everyone’s name to see who I wanted to RVS.
And yet you voted someone who hadn't posted. Do you see a problem there? Because I do.
VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips
Can think of 2 explanations, one possibly scum indicative and one definitely scum indicative.
When has this ever been a problem before? I certainly see a lot of people acting like it is. Yet no one is saying why. Why am I not in the same boat as this guy? I voted no lynch and no one is questioning that. You're voting a guy for voting a no poster. Really grasping at straws here people.
In post 101, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 97, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 69, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Anyways I was just being lazy and didn’t feel like looking at everyone’s name to see who I wanted to RVS.
And yet you voted someone who hadn't posted. Do you see a problem there? Because I do.
VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips
Can think of 2 explanations, one possibly scum indicative and one definitely scum indicative.


No I really don’t. What I said was to why i didn’t vote straight away. So that’s out of context. You can look at my ISO if you want to get it straight. I really don’t see the problem with voting someone who hasn’t posted yet it’s literally what happens in the beginning of games.

Coming at me for using my
RVS
seems like a lost cause & we should move on to find actually scum
Look at this towny guy!
In post 103, Vedith wrote:I think Gamma might be Scum.
Good jod baldy. This is something I wouldn't mind betting on.
Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #11) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:26 am

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In post 120, Dannflor wrote:
In post 102, Gamma Emerald wrote:There's a VC on that page actually so I'll drop it.
UNVOTE:
Gamma, what does this post mean?
It mean I realized a VC was there, where all the names were listed, so him voting at that point matches his story perfectly. So I unvoted him.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #12) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:28 am

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In post 123, Vedith wrote:
In post 105, Dannflor wrote:Do you think he’s scum for completely ignoring the TemporalLich wagon or is something else pinging you?
Nothing to do with Lich.
I wasn't sure if his vote was serious or he was just trying to bait. But the fact he went for such a strange and unusual push from him then unvoted so easily means he's probably Scum.
Originally thinking when posting that i thought he was just hoping on a wagon against town, but I could see him using this to stop the pressure on Emp if they are buddies.

I'm also Gamma's best friend IRL so I think I know him spot on.

And as for Lich I like. Doesn't seem to care about risking being under pressure. And I did some research \o/ and since he is actually a newbie I would expect this.
Hopefully my last post explained things lol. Also I have a new mafiascum bestie and he ACTUALLY is really good at reading me.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #13) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:41 am

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I have no brothers, only a sister and she has an account that is unused here that she used solely to keep tabs on my usage for a month. FYI if you keep lying about relations to me I'm going to demote you from friend to acquaintance.
As for this person no they're not here afaict but they're good at hiding in the shadows.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #14) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:42 am

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In post 132, Vedith wrote:
In post 130, Gamma Emerald wrote:FYI if you keep lying about relations to me I'm going to demote you from friend to acquaintance.
Just this game alone or in all games?
You talking about the lying or the demotion? Either one is all games anyway.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:59 am

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In post 136, Dannflor wrote:
In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
If you believe this, why not vote for her?
Because I want to give her a chance to respond.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #16) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:00 am

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In post 145, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Yeah he never did. He asked me a couple things then moved on. As others kept grilling me. Someone who came in voted me based off of ssbm & Dann is hopkirk gamma & lich.

I have a scum lean on most of these people except dann he’s leanin town.

I also feel like the animal Doc could be scum based off of yumeko calling them out and their reaction.

Speaking of yumeko I get weird vibes from them but as of rn it’s a null/townlean for them.
Lovebird is a null read something about her makes me want to lean scum maybe I just want my RVS to be right idk.

People that look like the best D1 hammer to me would be drdolittle or maybe temporallich

I need to read gamma’s ISO again to see if I think she’s a good D1 hammer. I’ll try to get to that as soon as I can
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Post Post #194 (isolation #17) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:03 am

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In post 164, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote: Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
What do you mean by this?
Her posts look like they are really in the moment, and are more thought up.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #18) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:03 am

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In post 193, Dannflor wrote:
In post 190, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I want to give her a chance to respond.
What about voting her doesn't give a chance to respond? She's not a major wagon or at L-1. At this stage your vote should be on someone
Her response could change my mind, so I didn't vote yet.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #19) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 173, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 169, Vedith wrote:
In post 167, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
\o/
Lets speed lynch this!
Is she at L-1? I’d prefer to hear from her again, I like people to have a chance
Are you for fucking real
I actually try to contribute to a game I'm in with Dannflor and I get turbowagoned Day 1. Fuck efforting I'll just coast as town from now on.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #20) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:11 am

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In post 200, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 195, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 193, Dannflor wrote:
In post 190, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I want to give her a chance to respond.
What about voting her doesn't give a chance to respond? She's not a major wagon or at L-1. At this stage your vote should be on someone
Her response could change my mind, so I didn't vote yet.
Are you scared of what it would look like if you voted someone because you were suspicious and then changed your mind and unvoted after your suspicions were assuaged?
No? Did you see what happened with my Emp vote? I'm simply less confident.
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In post 204, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 191, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 145, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Yeah he never did. He asked me a couple things then moved on. As others kept grilling me. Someone who came in voted me based off of ssbm & Dann is hopkirk gamma & lich.

I have a scum lean on most of these people except dann he’s leanin town.

I also feel like the animal Doc could be scum based off of yumeko calling them out and their reaction.

Speaking of yumeko I get weird vibes from them but as of rn it’s a null/townlean for them.
Lovebird is a null read something about her makes me want to lean scum maybe I just want my RVS to be right idk.

People that look like the best D1 hammer to me would be drdolittle or maybe temporallich

I need to read gamma’s ISO again to see if I think she’s a good D1 hammer. I’ll try to get to that as soon as I can
What the fuck, D1 HAMMER?
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I said you’re not good for D1 meaning you’re possibly town
Say D1 LYNCH, not hammer you spoon.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #22) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:27 pm

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In post 210, Vedith wrote:
In post 206, Gamma Emerald wrote:No? Did you see what happened with my Emp vote? I'm simply less confident.
Who should I vote if not you, Gamma?
I think the point on Hopkirk is valid. He could have been more direct about wanting to sort me.
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As for not mentioning it, that's exactly why I said Hop could have been more direct. No effort was made to be proactive there. Hop just plopped a vote down and thought that would make me open up.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #24) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:58 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 247, Yumeko Jabami wrote:Oh dear, I meant to push DrDonothing a bit more, but I've already ran out of time. This seems like an oversight on my part, I should have really been here yesterday, oh well. There are a few things that stood out to me as I skimmed up to around 74, mainly the fact that DrDolittle and Dannflor seem to be defending each other for some reason. Or maybe I'm just seeing things, please correct me if I'm wrong Dannflor, here's what I mean:
In post 19, Dannflor wrote:
In post 16, TemporalLich wrote:VOTE: DrDolittle

Gonna have to agree with Dannflor here.
VOTE: TemporalLich

disagree with you agreeing with me
In post 48, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 37, Yumeko Jabami wrote:Tell me, DrDonothing, do you always hesitate to place a vote during the early game? Do you not think that Dann's Point of view is odd enough to place a vote down at this stage of the game?
TBH this is the first time where I don't place a vote during the early game.
Yumeko Jabami wrote:However, post 33 by Dannflor looks like scum grilling awkward town to me... or at least it's what I'd expect to be happening. Dannflor would certainly be the logical place to place a vote right now.
I think this is just Dannflor looking like a Dannflor. Most likely not AI
In post 59, Dannflor wrote:
In post 58, Lovebird wrote:Idk. I don't have many townreads.

VOTE: DrDolittle
Yuck. Don't like this entrance. Comes in and calls one random post towny with no explanation and then hops on an already built wagon while adding nothing to it.

VOTE: Lovebird

Lovebird, if you're lacking town reads, why don't you try questioning people to change that? Or, at the very least add something of value to the DDL wagon by interrogating him or building a different case. Your entrance just jumps on the easiest wagon without adding anything else.
In post 159, Dannflor wrote:I'd like to wait for DDL to do virtually anything before I form an opinion on that slot

I'm wary because iirc he gets scum read a lot for not doing much early game regardless of alignment

DoDonothing, you say in post 48 that this is the first time you don't place a vote in the early game. Setting aside the why for now, what do you think of Dannflor saying you get scum read for not doing much early game regardless of alignment? The statements aren't quite contradictions to each other, but I thought it was close enough to one that it was curious. What kind of experience do the two of you share, anyway? It seems you've played together, would you guys say you're friends? Friendly acquaintances? Or are you just nobodies to each other? DrDonothing in particular seemed to indicate familiarity in post 48, while Dannflor seemed more distant when talking about DDN in post 159. Ah, so cold Dannflor! It's not nice to treat your friends that way you know?
In post 59, Dannflor wrote:
In post 36, Yumeko Jabami wrote:However, post 33 by Dannflor looks like scum grilling awkward town to me... or at least it's what I'd expect to be happening. Dannflor would certainly be the logical place to place a vote right now.
I like to grill awkward town first to make sure they're awkward town and not awkward scum. :)
Furthermore, would you say DDN's playstyle holds a special exemption to what you said here, or do you think this isn't an applicable situation?
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In post 38, TemporalLich wrote:I definitely feel DrDolittle is trying to hide something. At least the random voters are honest and true.

ssbm_Kyouko is probably town btw
Don't you think it's a bit early to be calling people town? Or does ssbm just wear their heart on their sleave?

I'm working on the presumption that you didn't dig into my post too deeply, but instead scanned it. Which is ok - well not really, I work hard on those - it doesn't really say much about your alignment. The point I'm trying to make is that putting in effort doesn't make somebody town - you seem like a fish out of water, latching onto other people's scumread. This is one of your first times playing mafia, right? I get the feeling you're nervous, not because you're mafia, but because you're a new player trying to fit. That's not to say that you
can't
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Your post surprised me, because it seemed like you somehow missed the first post and only saw the second. That or you're just a little too naive.
In post 101, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 97, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 69, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Anyways I was just being lazy and didn’t feel like looking at everyone’s name to see who I wanted to RVS.
And yet you voted someone who hadn't posted. Do you see a problem there? Because I do.
VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips
Can think of 2 explanations, one possibly scum indicative and one definitely scum indicative.


No I really don’t. What I said was to why i didn’t vote straight away. So that’s out of context. You can look at my ISO if you want to get it straight. I really don’t see the problem with voting someone who hasn’t posted yet it’s literally what happens in the beginning of games.

Coming at me for using my
RVS
seems like a lost cause & we should move on to find actually scum
Ahahaha, you're being silly. What's the point of Rvs if you don't want other people to judge you off of it? Did you think people just voted each other for giggles? While that certainly sounds like fun, Don't you think it's a little hypocritical of you to say that coming after you for, in your opinion paraphrased: 'essentially nothing' while you've placed a vote on lovebird for 'actually nothing' and hadn't moved on yourself?

This isn't a dig at you, people aren't coming after you because you voted lovebird, they're coming after you because you showed hesitation - yes, a moment of weakness and they jumped on it. Well, that's the kind of game we're playing though.
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In post 36, Yumeko Jabami wrote:I understand that it is site meta to claim miller in your first post when you are one, so I'll acknowledge it, yes, you've caught me, I'm a miller!

Mary Saotome, it's good to see you again. Let's work hard to undermine any opposing factions together.
Ugh, it's you. Well at least you won't survive long with a claim like that Yumeko-chan.
I'm afraid I don't understand, is my life at risk? Everybody has been so very accepting of my claim so far, are you saying that their is some unspoken suspicion floating about, or perhaps that there will be if i survive for a few nights? Or perhaps you're the one who doesn't trust me? If that's the case, I'll just have to work a little bit harder, won't I?
In post 116, Mary Saotome wrote:Your tone comes off more so as accusing then it does sorting and asking questions. That could be my mistake! Hard to read tone.
My my Saotome, have you ever heard the phrase 'practice what you preach'? I've always thought it was silly, I mean, preaching isn't always about positive things, so the whole phrase ends up being a little bit assuming, don't you think?

In any case, I never took you for a clumsy girl, you should take more care in the future.
In post 118, Mary Saotome wrote:Keep being interesting 10thy/Dann and we'll get along fine.
Dann certainly is interesting, I'm all fired up over here. Can you tell? In any case, there's this one other player, they're just so very boring. Honestly, it's a drag. Good chance they're scum too. Hey, we should team up, let's get all the boring out of here. What do you say?

VOTE: Radiantcowbells

Yikes. Angles towards DDL+Dann team but votes RC while reaching out to Dann. Uhhhhh no.
VOTE: Yumeko
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Post Post #284 (isolation #25) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:59 pm

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In post 248, Mary Saotome wrote:
In post 119, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I was accusing. I think being directly confronted makes people more transparent, and thus easier to sort. I kept an open mind though and I think I have started to form more accurate reads than I had before the accusations.
How blunt. Fine, fine this answer works for me.
In post 126, Gamma Emerald wrote:Maybe it's the roleplaying but Mary Saotome's play seems very agenda-driven.
Ohhh does it now~ Well I certainly am attacking people who I find suspect. Along with I have a few plans in mind. So yes, I would say my play is certainly agenda-driven. How you wanna take that is up to you.
In post 134, RadiantCowbells wrote:Mary chat with me :(
Ugh, don't you know my time is important?
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In post 139, Hopkirk wrote:@Mary: what would you have considered to be a legitimate, not just ‘convenient’ reason for Dan to vote Emperor? The phrasing ‘convenient’ feels odd.
It was an answer that I could easily see being truthful, but also one that is easy to make up. It wasn't really what I was looking for. Perhaps convenient was the wrong term. I wanted a more solid answer to help me sadly.
In post 144, Hopkirk wrote:I want to develop a read on Gamma.
You know hoppy. Saying the reason why you're voting Gamma isn't really that helpful. If you wanted to develop a read on gamma. Fake a scumread on him see how they react etc. Just placing a vote down isn't gonna do much. I know you all can't be as smart as the great Mary. However, I would hope you all can use your brains sometime!
Response to me is lacking but I like interactions with Hopkirk from Mary.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #26) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:06 pm

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In post 254, Mary Saotome wrote:
In post 194, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Her posts look like they are really in the moment,
and are more thought up.
Tell me more. Aren't all posts in the moment? You read something think of an answer and post. Not that hard~ If you think I'm making stuff up well that's a you problem Gamma! I look forward to our debate on this topic.
Not all of them. Cases should be thought out. How come you don't realize that? And your attempt to argue philosophy complete fail to answer any concerns I have with your posting. I might have dropped it following your last posts given the front I was detecting seems created by your persona you are creating here, but this shoddy dodge blew that.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:10 pm

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In post 276, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 194, Gamma Emerald wrote: Her posts look like they are really in the moment, and are more thought up.
??? Aren't these opposites???
That's meant to say aren't. I didn't catch that until you pointed it out thanks.
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In post 281, Dannflor wrote:
In post 276, DrDolittle wrote:Eyes on Dannflor. Feeling definitely a bit uneasy here.
In post 280, DrDolittle wrote:Thoughts on gamma + dann aligns with me.
Hm? Did your uneasiness fade, or...?
That's taking things out of context.
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In post 303, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 298, RadiantCowbells wrote:Btw sorry about this game TL

good luck in your next one
At least try to not look like scum.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells
Tell me how you're not playing survivalistic/super OMGUSy here
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Post Post #328 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:48 am

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In post 320, Yumeko Jabami wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 253, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 247, Yumeko Jabami wrote:Dann certainly is interesting, I'm all fired up over here. Can you tell? In any case, there's this one other player, they're just so very boring. Honestly, it's a drag. Good chance they're scum too. Hey, we should team up, let's get all the boring out of here. What do you say?

VOTE: Radiantcowbells
how do you want this game to go?
In post 259, RadiantCowbells wrote:@Vedith i do not read you as scum but if you're going to hard defend a wolf i will probably want you lynched sometime before endgame. nothing personnel, kid, but this is ick.

@Yumeko I do read you as scum. I think that your tone is awful and I see your vote as very likely to have been an outright chainsaw. if that is not the case i strongly advise that you reconsider your current line of play because right now i'm planning to go after you tomorrow. on top of all this if the calling me boring and appealing to mary specifically to vote me wasn't explicitly intended to piss me off then you should be aware that that's going to piss me off
Stuff like this is what I'm talking about. Such thinly veiled threats, using brute force as a means to get scumread off of you, or maybe even turn it around on me. I guess everyone has their own style, who am I to judge, but if you're involving me in this you must know that I don't intend to let up in the face of your boorish tactics.

If my own gameplay leaves a bit of a sour taste in your mouth, I can only assure you that I don't care to attack your feelings, but rather your gameplay. Which is pretty bad, in my eyes. The way you postured around in the early game set my eyes on you, the way you continue to posture around only furthers my suspicions - what I mean to say is, it looks more like you care more about taking a strong stance and rallying support behind you than solving the game. Something about the way you ask questions makes me think that your goal is to trip someone up and give yourself more ammunition to go after them with, and then if the lynch goes through you can point out that everybody else was wrong too.

I suspect your case on Lich would not have been so strong had I not pointed a (measly) finger of suspicion towards yourself, and that there was a measure of self defense in such an action.
In post 258, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 16, TemporalLich wrote:Gonna have to agree with Dannflor here.
In post 38, TemporalLich wrote:I definitely feel DrDolittle is trying to hide something. At least the random voters are honest and true.
In post 76, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 70, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I'll concede it was basically page 1 (post 26, and the mod took the pagetop) but first you said you wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then you said random, so which is it?

Let's get this wagon rolling folks
Since he said random, then that he wanted to vote someone who hadn't been voted yet, then random again... his vote is baseless and Lovebird is town. That's a complete 360 right there.

You know what this means...

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips
In post 71, RadiantCowbells wrote:Flippynips wagon is bad
I'm not sure about that...
In post 83, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 79, Dannflor wrote:How the hell do you get Lovebird is town from that
If Lovebird turns out to be scumbird then I will be very surprised.
Especially now since there are scumreads floating around and the vote isn't even pretending to be a scumread.
I'm going to define a new term here because I don't think it's something that's in the popular lexicon and I think it's really important to reading newbies in particular.
There's a lie detecting tell with people in real life where when they're lying they give extraneous details, overexplain things, etc.
The mafia equivalent which we see in these posts is all this excessive fluff added on to these votes.
I'm gonna call it "scum overwording" and it's one of the most tried and true scumtells when it comes to reading newbies.
Notably I have played with more newbies than anyone else in this game and probably in site history, so that should come up with a lot of force behind it.

Another major thing is the lack of newbie unconfidence with the reads. There's no explanations behind things. He just kinda comes up with reads. SSBM town, no explanation. Lovebird town was complete what the fuck and though that kind of overreading into associatives is reasonably common from newbies the original read that lovebird came from was totally out of nowhere.
In post 122, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 120, Dannflor wrote:What do you two think about Lovebird's entrance and subsequent wagon hop? Scummy or just lazy town?
Definitely just lazy town, though I don't see scumreads as implausible.
this too is inconsistent in and of itself: 'definitely town' but the scumreads aren't implausible. wolfy out the ass.
In post 161, TemporalLich wrote:Emperor, Dannflor, DrDolittle, and Gamma all register as "potentially scum" to me.
this is just a pretty typical scum readslist sooo

yeah

no they're just scum. we can lynch them at any point. i wouldn't mind stalling out the day phase but they're gonna be in antispew indefinitely and if it means that we're even slightly likely to end up not lynching temporallich it's better to just take the scum flip and move on to tomorrow.
Starting from the bottom: There are other people in this game with similar reads, no? Those players' alignment has come up before quite a bit. Second from the bottom appears to be a semantics issue - you know what he meant. He's saying Lovebird is lazy town, but he can see why other people would be reading Lovebird as scum, and doesn't scumread those players. There's nothing inherently wrong with that statement, they just worded it in a funny way, though when you think about it there's really only 1 interpretation that makes sense if you look at it. This is what I was talking about earlier - you're hobbling points together to build a case. Now THAT isn't necessarily scum motivated either, pressure and all that, though I feel at this point enough pressure has been applied and the time to back off has since passed.

About the newbie unconfidence thing: Lich doesn't really make sense in general. I can't follow their thought process. But does that mean he's scum?
In post 1, Slaxx wrote:-Mafia will be able to communicate with each other during day phases.
If Lich were scum, I'd suspect his buddies would be trying to help him out here, I certainly would be - not in the main thread, mine you, but behind the scenes. Even if the mafia were to bus him publicly, they'd be offering alternatives, ways to make sense, offering up things to say. It's called coaching - and Lich shows no signs of it. Indeed, if he were mafia his nonsensical behavior would be reigned in by his buddies, and his posting quality would improve - he'd at least have explanations for his reads. I can't speak for your newbie game experience but this isn't a 2v7 game with a newbie mafia partner, the circumstances are quite substantially changed from what you're used to if you play in a lot of newbie games. There are other interactions at play between players here. This is a bad argument - it only looks at two instances in a vacuum, the complex moving parts behind it all is completely different. That's my theory and my counterargument.

You asked me earlier how I wanted this game to go! I'd like to form good reads with my analysis and offer counter points to things other people so easily accept without really
thinking
about it. I certainly don't intend to follow along with whatever you're trying to do here, partly as a matter of pride and partly because I think you're a good pick for scum right now. So that's my answer, and if I want to rally Mary's support, that's between me and her, and I will continue to try to work with her when possible without nagging at every single thing she does like you've been doing.
In post 255, Mary Saotome wrote:It's interesting that a lot of the people I'm willing to vote are scumreading each other. Gamma, Hop, DrDolittle and ??? Who I won't name as I want to see how they're acting still.
Ooo, fun! Why don't we make a game out of this and guess who you're referring to here?
I'd bet the ??? is ssbm_Kyouko myself.
In post 257, Dannflor wrote:
In post 247, Yumeko Jabami wrote:Furthermore, would you say DDN's playstyle holds a special exemption to what you said here, or do you think this isn't an applicable situation?
DDL and I have played one game together I believe. We were both town and I pushed him initially until I did a meta dive on him.

I would like to pressure this slot eventually and get a solid read but I don't think voting it right now is going to do anything so I'm waiting for him to actually start playing the game.

@RC, I know you think TL is still the best lynch, but opinion on Gamma/Hopkirk?
So I'm not wrong to think this a special exemption, right?

Noting here that RC didn't care to acknowledge this, for what it's worth. I'd argue that he doesn't want discussion to start elsewhere, that's the kind of feel I'm getting on him as a player. Of course, he could have just missed it, or even thought you post unworthy. Don't worry Dann, I think your post is alright, even if nobody else does. My questioning on you/DDN seems to have reached a dead end, I'm not suspecting it anymore - I agree that pushing DDN doesn't appear to be fruitful at this point (I moved off of him).
In post 278, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 247, Yumeko Jabami wrote:
DoDonothing, you say in post 48 that this is the first time you don't place a vote in the early game. Setting aside the why for now, what do you think of Dannflor saying you get scum read for not doing much early game regardless of alignment? The statements aren't quite contradictions to each other, but I thought it was close enough to one that it was curious. What kind of experience do the two of you share, anyway? It seems you've played together, would you guys say you're friends? Friendly acquaintances? Or are you just nobodies to each other? DrDonothing in particular seemed to indicate familiarity in post 48, while Dannflor seemed more distant when talking about DDN in post 159. Ah, so cold Dannflor! It's not nice to treat your friends that way you know?
Cause in the game Dann and I played I literally expressed exasperation over "get scum read for not doing much early game regardless of alignment". Dann are we friends? I would say so.

Don't you think it's a bit early to be calling people town? Or does ssbm just wear their heart on their sleave?

I'm working on the presumption that you didn't dig into my post too deeply, but instead scanned it. Which is ok - well not really, I work hard on those - it doesn't really say much about your alignment. The point I'm trying to make is that putting in effort doesn't make somebody town - you seem like a fish out of water, latching onto other people's scumread. This is one of your first times playing mafia, right? I get the feeling you're nervous, not because you're mafia, but because you're a new player trying to fit. That's not to say that you
can't
be mafia - I'm trying to figure out your flighty attitude. Full disclosure, I read a bit ahead in the thread before posting this stuff, so I'm partially judging you based on stuff past this post as well.

Your post surprised me, because it seemed like you somehow missed the first post and only saw the second. That or you're just a little too naive.
This is pretty scummy. Not sure if its coaching or advice giving, but it's a big long winded paragraph with much ado about nothing. looks like content, and is really not.
Dann certainly is interesting, I'm all fired up over here. Can you tell? In any case, there's this one other player, they're just so very boring. Honestly, it's a drag. Good chance they're scum too. Hey, we should team up, let's get all the boring out of here. What do you say?

VOTE: Radiantcowbells
Jabroni are you for real? You rewrite Goethe's Faust in this post, and then essentially put a naked vote on RC? VOTE: Yumeko
Now you. As Mary said, it's hard to read tone, your first response here comes across to me as defensive, as if you felt somehow threatened by me. It's alright, I won't bite, I just want to have a discussion. I'm not sure what your deal with the next two points are, but I think you'll quickly realize you're being silly and that none of the things you point out are really points to me being scum. If you'd like, I have a completed game on this site, and I rolled town in it. You might find it enlightening to take a quick skim to see how I played in a completed game. Big long winded paragraphs aren't anything out of the ordinary, and as I pointed out earlier when I was talking to RC, if I were scum with Lich, I'd be giving advice in the scum chat, not in the game thread (if that's the implication here). As for advice giving? I'm trying to draw them into the game, make them follow my pace a little, so that I can get a better read on them. You seem to be mistaken in that you think me being gentle and approaching the issue by trying to talk to them reasonably (to no avail, it seems - I think the task of reading my posts and engaging with me seems daunting to them) means that I have some form of agenda, but you fail to see the bigger picture.

Speaking of the bigger picture, It seems like you have the impression, or are under the assumption, that mafia would be trying to talk to each other in the main thread - not for the sake of interacting, but to try to help each other out without letting townies in on it. What I'm saying is, it doesn't seem like you realize that mafia can talk to each other in the rules. Indeed, with the way the rule was worded, my usual method of searching using the ctrl + f keyboard command failed to find the rule, and I only happened to spot it by chance. I'm inclined to say you're more likely to be town because of this, but seeing your join date makes me hesitate - shouldn't you be used to games where mafia can talk to each other during the day? Why the implication that I'd be scum coaching my partner in the main thread rather than behind closed doors? Can you help me understand your thought process here?
In post 262, Dannflor wrote:I'm reconvinced.

Stalling out the day, for at least a little longer, is good though. xwing won't be here until Monday, and DDL and Yumeko need to engage
For reference, do you mean we need to engage with each other, or with the thread in the general? If you've got something you want to talk about, I'd be happy to talk about it, otherwise I don't know what you mean - did you instead mean I need to post more? I do believe I engaged in my last post.
In post 265, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 258, RadiantCowbells wrote:Another major thing is the lack of newbie unconfidence with the reads. There's no explanations behind things. He just kinda comes up with reads. SSBM town, no explanation. Lovebird town was complete what the fuck and though that kind of overreading into associatives is reasonably common from newbies the original read that lovebird came from was totally out of nowhere.
There is nothing that suggests SSBM could be scum. Fight me.
In post 258, RadiantCowbells wrote:this too is inconsistent in and of itself: 'definitely town' but the scumreads aren't implausible. wolfy out the ass.
As in I don't think reading Lovebird as scum would be completely unjustifiable, but as of now lovebird is town and something would have to happen for lovebird to not be town.
The bottom part is how I interpreted what Lich said, RC seems to have no reaction to this and instead just uses the post to try to dig Lich in a deeper hole.

With that said, Lich, when you said ssbm was town they only had 3 posts. Even if you believe there is nothing to indicate ssbm is scum, that is hardly a reason to suggest that they're town. This might be a difference in viewpoints, though I'll let you know right now that there is a right answer to this question - most people in this game are town. The onus is on them to show it, and on us to realize it. I don't think either of these conditions could have been fulfilled so early. Don't misunderstand me, early reads are fine and all, but to hold onto it for so long, almost defiantly, almost as if you care more about having a viewpoint than about figuring the game out...

I'd really like if he could have a chat, just you and me - tune out the likes of RC and focus on answering my questions? I'd like to think it would be in your interest for you to humor me if you're town so I can read you better. Right now it looks like you're set up to be the lynch by default - if you think RC is scum, then arguing with RC isn't a good idea - you should argue with other people about why he's wrong, and how he has an agenda.

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In post 274, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 269, Dannflor wrote:
In post 265, TemporalLich wrote:There is nothing that suggests SSBM could be scum. Fight me.
What suggests that SSBM is town to you?
There's nothing scummy in his ISO. Of course, nothing scummy is merely neutral at worst.

To add some weight to the town_Kyouko theory, he seems to be of the confident demeanor so he won't back down if the pressure were to ever fall on him.
Actually, you seem to be describing a personality trait here - I don't see how that means Kyouko is less likely to be scum. Do you think scum are intrinsically likely to cower under pressure or something?
In post 267, xwing wrote:he then backtracks to lovebird being "potentially town" to try to insert uncertainty..
You misinterpreted what he said. Read above - he even explained it.
In post 267, xwing wrote:by that same vein i think RC is town for casing TL and pushing for his lynch..i dont think there's scummy agenda here..
I think if you use your imagination you can come up with something, a theoretical scum agenda here. One player casing and pushing another player - that's not something I'd point to and say that I don't think there would be an agenda.

With that said, I'm getting an early feeling that you're town - albeit a bit clueless, which is okay.
In post 271, Dannflor wrote:Yea, I'm not sure I like the instinct to get confrontational vs. ... actually explaining his reads.
It's a psychological thing. Getting confrontational means you feel cornered, and despite the way that sounds it does not mean he's scum. Poor guy is getting ganged up on here in presumably his first game on site by players who have been playing for a lot longer than him, who brag about it - use it as a weapon.
In post 272, xwing wrote:@lovebird: are you insinuating you are informed, and backing up the miller claim?

@mary: i think this slot is someone we wouldn't want to mess around with in RL :P
since you obviously wanted to discuss this, why did you claim VT?
also, i think you're town, and i like how you're teaching others to not be too transparent, but im not liking the tone, but mostly play style differences i guess..
Lovebird thing is interesting if true - what would you think of our alignments if they claimed that?

I don't get the dismissal of your own points by saying playstyle differences - if you don't like the tone just say so, maybe even ask about it. Further, I think Mary's tone is fine, though that's not something I'd be able to explain.
In post 283, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yikes. Angles towards DDL+Dann team but votes RC while reaching out to Dann. Uhhhhh no.
VOTE: Yumeko
Can you further explain why you are voting me by quoting the bit where I was reaching out to Dann and why that's a bad thing in your eyes. It seems that you're a bit too quick to jump to the conclusion that I had ulterior motives just because I was pushing Dann and DDn a little - I'm trying to sort them, I didn't call for votes on them or the like.
It looks like your reads are fake because you are playing both sides of the fence. And yes I am stating I detect ulterior motives.
Also, you write a lot of words and yet don't seem to say much each time, I feel like you could cut it down a little?
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In post 326, Mary Saotome wrote:I know you losers missed me. I mean who wouldn't? I'll get to this tonight.
Not with that attitude I don't
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Post Post #331 (isolation #32) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:05 am

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But you are looking like you might be the lynch
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Post Post #442 (isolation #33) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 345, Vedith wrote:There's an SK in this game?
Not possible actually, SK is banned in mini norms now
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Post Post #443 (isolation #34) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:10 pm

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In post 394, xwing wrote:it tells me RC was wrong..
also, it would tell me there's at least one scum on the wagon..though it's likely that it's not RC still..as he was the origin of the wagon and would take the heat..he's not exactly reserved about his call..
also, if lich turns out town, he'd either investigate creature or emp, or someone else he thinks has the scummiest reason for joining his wagon..(dann, me, kyouko et. al.)
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Post Post #444 (isolation #35) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:12 pm

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In post 409, RadiantCowbells wrote:hilariously ssbm would have been my first pick for a busser on the wagon.
What is this in response to?
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Post Post #445 (isolation #36) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:15 pm

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Vedith probtown.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #37) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:03 am

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intent to hammer once Mary returns
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Post Post #481 (isolation #38) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:18 pm

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I like Mary's progression on TL but I also need time to chew on her response to me (this isn't a reason to postpone ending the day though)
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Post Post #482 (isolation #39) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:20 pm

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And moreover on that, I like how her progression on TL affects other things in what she's posting
The "Eureka" moment she has with the TL read feels genuine and looks like it actually is sending waves through the rest of her interactions and posting.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #40) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 475, Mary Saotome wrote:
In post 285, Gamma Emerald wrote:Not all of them. Cases should be thought out. How come you don't realize that? And your attempt to argue philosophy complete fail to answer any concerns I have with your posting. I might have dropped it following your last posts given the front I was detecting seems created by your persona you are creating here, but this shoddy dodge blew that.
Baka. When you see a post you think something about it and post about it. Sure you take your time when making a case. However, I haven't seen any cases besides the RC case. I don't know where you got on the topic of cases in the first place given that's not what I was taking about~ Also I wasn't dodging anything. If I don't want to answer an idiotic question I'll just call it stupid and move on!
Now bear in mind this response is now more of a rebuttal of the argument over a sorting effort as I've pretty much hyped myself into a very solid townread on Mary.
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I may add more, this is just what I've got from the one post.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #41) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:39 pm

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In post 489, Mary Saotome wrote:
In post 483, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mentioned cases because you were making the point all posts are "in the moment" and that was something that plainly contradicted your statement. Whether a case existed in this game was irrelevant, why did you think it was? And if you'd called my question stupid I'd have been upset but maybe been fine with it. You avoiding it the way you did cause problems though.
Fair enough. Even if cases do make my point invalid I don't know why it makes you have a sour taste in your mouth. I thought the case part was relevant because you were calling my posts 'thought up.' So I was trying to prove a point. I didn't purposely avoid your question. It's up to you if you wanna believe that or not~
Yeah I feel like this response is decent. I can believe the bit about not avoiding the question and your response and what I perceived as dodging the question align with making a point I think.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #42) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:27 am

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VOTE: TemporalLich
I'd meant to give an hour tops for any further developments to happen and none did.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:59 pm

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In post 508, Hopkirk wrote:Mary or Gamma next?
VOTE: gamma
In post 509, DrDolittle wrote:I think Hop is scum number 2. We need to pressure him for his Gamma read today because he claims consistently throughout D1 that Lich should be lynched and instead votes Gamma, saying it's to gather a read. He says the process is ongoing but that he's still working on it, then all of a sudden he comes in and votes TL when he hits L-2, which looks like scum that wasn't yet committed to the bus finally going for it. He offers towncred to anyone who hammers and I think it's scummy to publicly offer towncred ever
In post 510, DrDolittle wrote:VOTE: hopkirk
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Post Post #552 (isolation #44) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 534, Lovebird wrote:I think Gamma ignored and tried to get alternatives to lich wagon all of day one, but when it looks like he's dying anyways he hammers for credit.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #45) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:06 pm

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In post 564, Mary Saotome wrote:I want to see Yumeko post at least once before we consider lynching her.
Reads? Pretty sure I saw you say you'd re-evaluate earlier today.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #46) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:07 am

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In post 587, DrDolittle wrote:I don't get it. But I'm willing to sheep.
I get it, am kinda willing to sheep, but would like to know the full case (again if it's been presented already) too.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #47) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 596, Lovebird wrote:
In post 552, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 534, Lovebird wrote:I think Gamma ignored and tried to get alternatives to lich wagon all of day one, but when it looks like he's dying anyways he hammers for credit.
How
What do you mean how? How what? :?

How did you try to get alternative wagons? I think you focused on Yume and maybe Mary and hammer comes out of nowhere.

It's the progression :)
I don't think my hammer came out of nowhere but I kinda get the "focusing on others" thing but get this: you don't know their alignment rn. What happens if one of those flips scum?
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Post Post #611 (isolation #48) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:46 am

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In post 599, Lovebird wrote:
In post 573, Yumeko Jabami wrote:I wonder why you're assuming there was a bus in the first place, why not look towards some of the people not voting at all?
Is it often there's a scum lynch day one without bussing?
I think it's highly uncommon yeah
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Post Post #614 (isolation #49) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 603, Lovebird wrote:
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lmao you really think I'm scum with one of those? Hopkirk means he double bussed and either of the other undermines your stupid theory.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #50) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:53 am

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VOTE: Lovebird
everything they've been saying on the last couple pages is scattered and gross
I could make a simile but it'd probably be absolutely disgusting
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Post Post #620 (isolation #51) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 618, DrDolittle wrote:gamma you said you were sheeping.
I changed my mind.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #52) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 630, Slaxx wrote:
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Deadline in
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Post Post #678 (isolation #53) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:33 pm

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In post 670, chennisden wrote:
In post 650, Mary Saotome wrote:Also, I'm still a vanilla town.
you're claimed like 80 times w/o an intent to hammer

hell you weren't even at L-1

this is scum trying to desperately survive the next day
...with a VT claim. Suuuure.
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Post Post #679 (isolation #54) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:36 pm

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Mary I'm walking to hear you out here. What if Yumeko didn't consider a flavored crumb? I think you have a point but it could be that Yumeko wasn't 100% in the zone to do that.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #55) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:17 pm

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In post 680, Vedith wrote:
In post 679, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mary I'm walking to hear you out here. What if Yumeko didn't consider a flavored crumb? I think you have a point but it could be that Yumeko wasn't 100% in the zone to do that.
I don't understand what you're asking Mary here?
I'm asking why they think Yumeko would have considered what she did about flavored crumbing.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #56) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:13 am

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In post 691, Mary Saotome wrote:
In post 679, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mary I'm walking to hear you out here. What if Yumeko didn't consider a flavored crumb? I think you have a point but it could be that Yumeko wasn't 100% in the zone to do that.
If we want to assume she didn't think about a flavored crumb she could've done one that only I got since we're friends. There's no reason for scum Yumeko to leave a stupid blatant crumb that points to me if we really were partners in the first place.
So she would have thought of a crumb that wouldn't be caught regardless, I get that.
Keep in mind there's still the possibility I'll end up like RC here, voting you for other reasons
But I don't want to just have today be a no thought event
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Post Post #719 (isolation #57) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:16 am

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Post Post #725 (isolation #58) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:14 am

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In post 723, Hopkirk wrote:I assumed that was a self hammer not L1 (not having read the recent votes)

Hey Gamma who are you scumreading.
Why does it matter if Mary flips scum lol
But in seriousness probably someone who wasn't on TL but was on Mary
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Post Post #757 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:42 pm

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In post 744, Vedith wrote:I thought it was a stretch until Yumeko used the PT cop as way to be town with a Miller role.

Im pretty tired so I'll focus here later but I want to discuss directly with Gamma or Hopkirk
RC kill makes sense here but I suspect it was more aimed to try and get Chen the blame.
I don't like Chen as Scum here at all.
I was leaning Hop in the night I think but can we also not pseudo-gladiate?
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Post Post #758 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:44 pm

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In post 750, Hopkirk wrote:I still think it was an all town wagon excepting Gamma. Same as I thought D2. Mafia have been killing all us obvtown on that wagon which is sad.
How are YOU obvtown?
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Post Post #759 (isolation #61) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:46 pm

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In post 748, Hopkirk wrote:Yumeko wagon happened while I was asleep. Would have joined it otherwise. Think I made it clear they were in my top two scum.
Also why does this mean anything? If you were scum you wouldn't know who the traitor was. So if you're trying to prove yourself tone with this it's not effective at all.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:47 pm

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In post 756, chennisden wrote:I didn't like that flashlynch, but the two people responsible for it being so stupid are dead now
And yet you hammered to make it a flashlynch.........
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Post Post #785 (isolation #63) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:16 pm

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In post 783, chennisden wrote:
In post 760, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 756, chennisden wrote:I didn't like that flashlynch, but the two people responsible for it being so stupid are dead now
And yet you hammered to make it a flashlynch.........
nvm we can lynch this

Gamma didnt read it seems
Vote count literally shows you as the hammer! Unless you want to say THE MOD LIED?
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Post Post #789 (isolation #64) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:19 pm

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In post 784, Emperor flippyNips wrote:@Gamma who are your scum reads?
I suspect Hop but I'm not really decided on whether it's him yet.

And like how the fuck do I go through a game getting suspected like this? I'm not this incompetent as scum. Only one scumgame recently out of like 4 would I say I didn't do at least reasonably well (though I might not be remembering what my last 4 are correctly). And wasn't Yumeko pretty okay with my lynch? Unless you think it's 4 scum total, me being scum would mean my lynch would have lost her the game.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #65) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:20 pm

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In post 787, DrDolittle wrote:Convince me why I should go hopkirk or someone esle
I wrote my post before seeing this but I really feel it functions as an answer.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #66) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:09 pm

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Maybe check like the first page or two of D2, that's where I remember seeing that
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Post Post #797 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:25 am

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In post 791, DrDolittle wrote:Touchy
In post 792, DrDolittle wrote:That was supposed to say touche
talk about this btw, what are you saying touche about?
@Vedith As stated I suspect Hopkirk, idk about DDL but I kinda wanna lean town there rn, I think your reasons to not lynch you are decent
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Post Post #799 (isolation #68) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:13 am

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In post 730, chennisden wrote:chennis xwing hopkirk mary radiant, thats 5 of 9 people

i jumped off the wagon so its

xwing hopkirk mary radiant

mary is loved.

VOTE: Mary Saotome
In post 737, Slaxx wrote:
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Mary Saotome (5):
xwing (640), hopkirk (661), Mary Saotome (710), RadiantCowbells (711), Chennisden (730),

Not Voting (4):
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Day 3 FlipMary Saotome,
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Post Post #800 (isolation #69) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:14 am

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Who's the fucking liar now?
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Post Post #808 (isolation #70) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:43 pm

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In post 807, chennisden wrote:congratulations gamma, not reading got you lynched
Lynch the fuck out of this
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Post Post #809 (isolation #71) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:44 pm

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Like that reads as knowing I'm town and taunting me accordingly. It needs death.
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Post Post #982 (isolation #72) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:37 pm

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In a normal?
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