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Post Post #3325 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 3322, TheBrie wrote:Town reading Dann because he agreed with you there is not a good reason.
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Post Post #3326 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:07 pm

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In post 3321, RadiantCowbells wrote:taly wasted their slot by pairing krazy and needs to die early
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Post Post #3327 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 3321, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 3318, Ankamius wrote:
In post 3316, RadiantCowbells wrote:outside of picking apart the people/pairings who are generally townblocked that i'm not happy with being townblocked

a la

taly/krazy
pink ball to some extent

and that's... about it?
i'm not scumhunting
understand i'm not scumhunting to mean i don't care who the scum are, i care who the town are
so the rest of the matches are townread+townread? is that what you mean?
no i mean

firebringer/vedith is a flawed pairing because i'm not 100% sure on firebringer or vedith but i'd say it could conceivably be tvt but isn't worth betting the game on
i can't see dannflor/nd containing scum
taly wasted their slot by pairing krazy and needs to die early
moment/thebrie are feeling townier now

fire/vedith is a wildcard but I think it's more likely town than not; it seems like a midgame revisit if there isn't much scum being lynched though
dannflor/nd agree
iirc most people got their strongest townreads on krazy from early in the game; did you get a scumread on him from there, or was it a lack of a townread type of thing, or was it something else entirely?
I think moment/thebrie is town yeah

I think we're mostly melded, I think it's just the rest are more wishy-washy reads which is probably fine since those are probably the slots that are most likely to get lynched first anyways
dt just feels like scum at this point
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Post Post #3328 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:09 pm

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holy shit I fucked that up badly

can I redo that
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Post Post #3329 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:09 pm

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i think we're tvt but i also think its useless as an endgame pairing because you'll never accept me going to endgame no matter what i do and i don't want to try hard to towntell again only to be disappointed
i think dannflor/nancy is tvt
i think moment/thebrie would very likely be tvt, more than any other pairing that currently exists but can't say literally 100%, i respect my initial doubts on the slots too much for that
i think drworm/pink ball has two slots that are balance of probabilities town but i wouldn't gamble the game on, more ??? about pink ball specifically
vedith/fire i think again, balance of probabilities both town
krazy/taly is flawed i believe this has been gone into depth on

of the remaining players

dt feels like a wolf
pvturist feels wolfy
allo ???? bad town or wolf who knows
gamma i have no reason to villaread and a few reasons to scumread
something_smart is probably town but

i guess i could contemplate whether brie or ss is townier
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Post Post #3330 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:10 pm

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In post 3310, Something_Smart wrote:I'm kinda thinking I want to pair with Thomas. Everyone else is too towny.
Too towny, because you think you're going to get lynched? Do you think Thomas is scum then? Why wouldn't you leave him without a partner if he's scum?
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Post Post #3331 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:10 pm

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honestly RC, the fact that our reads are aligning like this is making me a lot less paranoid of you
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Post Post #3332 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm

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RC, what's wolfy about Pvt?
And why the Gamma scum read?
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Post Post #3333 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm

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In post 3331, Ankamius wrote:honestly RC, the fact that our reads are aligning like this is making me a lot less paranoid of you
it really, really, really shouldn't
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Post Post #3334 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:11 pm

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In post 3332, TheBrie wrote:RC, what's wolfy about Pvt?
And why the Gamma scum read?
dunno just don't like pvturist

i haven't closeread him because i was happy to leave him as scum maybe i can give more detail

same essentially goes with gamma, i looked at his iso nothing was towny had moderate bad feels he can be poescum

i'm hyperscrutinizing my townreads and not my scumreads this game because the setup is what it is
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Post Post #3335 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:12 pm

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RC so you would prefer DT be excluded over Allo?
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Post Post #3336 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:13 pm

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In post 3333, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 3331, Ankamius wrote:honestly RC, the fact that our reads are aligning like this is making me a lot less paranoid of you
it really, really, really shouldn't
it's not enough to lock you town or anything, but it's enough for me to start trusting that my read was the wrong one over everyone else's
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Post Post #3337 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:13 pm

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prolly yeah

i mean i dont care

i literally don't care about scummy people
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Post Post #3338 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:14 pm

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Are you still leaving dance 1?
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Post Post #3339 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:15 pm

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i consider myself a memebr of the not engaming bloc to the point that the time that i leave the dance is largely irrelevant

there's no reason for me not to leave dance 1
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Post Post #3340 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:17 pm

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honestly RC

we're both widely townread enough that worst case, we would be either intermission killed or dead at 3 pairs left

there's more than enough leeway to push all the much more scummy pairs out first
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Post Post #3341 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 3334, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 3332, TheBrie wrote:RC, what's wolfy about Pvt?
And why the Gamma scum read?
dunno just don't like pvturist

i haven't closeread him because i was happy to leave him as scum maybe i can give more detail

same essentially goes with gamma, i looked at his iso nothing was towny had moderate bad feels he can be poescum

i'm hyperscrutinizing my townreads and not my scumreads this game because the setup is what it is
Makes sense. Do look at him though. I didn't like him to start with, but I'm now coming around to him maybe being town.

Gamma can be scummy as town.

If you think they're both scum, how about them pairing up?
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Post Post #3342 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:18 pm

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same reason last game i powerlynched to townreads because sakura hana wanted it. and iddn't really push firebringers lynch even though i knew he was scum. it just doesn't matter in the end.
honestly RC

we're both widely townread enough that worst case, we would be either intermission killed or dead at 3 pairs left

there's more than enough leeway to push all the much more scummy pairs out first
why does it matter if we're dead at 3 pairs left
we don't give the town any more equity by being alive or dead at 3 pairs left if we're not an endgame pair
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Post Post #3343 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:20 pm

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In post 3319, Moment wrote:
In post 3310, Something_Smart wrote:I'm kinda thinking I want to pair with Thomas. Everyone else is too towny.
I would rather you paired with Urist. There's no need to be fatalistic with your lynch.
Urist seems like he wants to suicide though.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #3344 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:21 pm

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like if we're right on the top 4 (2 for nightkill, 2 for winning) it doesn't matter the game will be won anyway
if we're not then you'll paranoia kill me at final 6 100% of the time

it doesn't grant anyone win equity
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Post Post #3345 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 3342, RadiantCowbells wrote:same reason last game i powerlynched to townreads because sakura hana wanted it. and iddn't really push firebringers lynch even though i knew he was scum. it just doesn't matter in the end.
honestly RC

we're both widely townread enough that worst case, we would be either intermission killed or dead at 3 pairs left

there's more than enough leeway to push all the much more scummy pairs out first
why does it matter if we're dead at 3 pairs left
we don't give the town any more equity by being alive or dead at 3 pairs left if we're not an endgame pair
because I think both of us being there would be a lot better for town morale if we push to intermission at least, even at the worst case I think we'd have a good shot at weeding out a deepwolf later if needed
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Post Post #3346 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:24 pm

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I'll leave first dance if RC promises to never sign up for another game where I'm already in the player list.
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Post Post #3347 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:24 pm

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there is no world

where you consider lynching a dann/nd or brie/moment pair in 4 way with me

you speed leave the game

that win equity is imaginary

and i don't need the heartbreak of trying to convince you that i'm town when it's never going to do anything
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Post Post #3348 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:25 pm

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In post 3346, Krazy wrote:I'll leave first dance if RC promises to never sign up for another game where I'm already in the player list.
ok sure

just asking, why?
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Post Post #3349 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:26 pm

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I was lying btw I'm not doing that to Taly

You're just acting like a douche that's all
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