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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:42 am

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VOTE: Allomancer

This is my lyncher target.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:24 pm

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I need people to vote for Allomancer so I can win.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:46 am

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In post 21, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 20, Donempire wrote:Everything is serious in bastard games.
VOTE: Dongempire

Because this is already so seriously
serious.
In post 22, Chateau Lobby wrote:UNVOTE:

No
it's more
serious than before
What?
In post 23, tictac wrote:
In post 11, joges wrote:
In post 9, 0verki11 wrote:im hated btw
I am also.
Me three.
Wait. There can only be one hated townie. Assuming tictac is telling the truth about being a survivor, and since their can only be one hated survivor as well, one of overkill or joges has to be a cult-leader, serial killer, or lying mafia. (Or lying jester?).

VOTE: Overkill
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Post Post #32 (isolation #3) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:20 am

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In post 30, 0verki11 wrote:why can there only ever be 1 hated townie?
All the possibilities for town roles only include one hated townie. The set up has apparently been modified to work as a micro, but I wouldn't think those modifications would include adding additional hated townies.
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Post Post #37 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:07 am

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In post 35, hawkleader3 wrote:Found it. I was looking for hated town or hated vanilla townie. Thanks! Holy crap that's a wonky role. Guess I'll ponder all the cool scenarios that wrench in the works entails
Have you looked at the possible roles in the setup?
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Post Post #42 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:19 pm

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In post 38, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 32, tris wrote:
In post 30, 0verki11 wrote:why can there only ever be 1 hated townie?
All the possibilities for town roles only include one hated townie. The set up has apparently been modified to work as a micro, but I wouldn't think those modifications would include adding additional hated townies.
thats probably correct tbh.
So, why don't you vote for joges?
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Post Post #47 (isolation #6) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:33 am

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What do the rest of you have to say about this?
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Post Post #53 (isolation #7) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:37 pm

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In post 52, mcqueen wrote:Why are people asking for claims of a cult leader? As if they’d really claim that?

I get why anybody who’s hated would want to claim, but even then... I still wasn’t super fond of it. Reason is it could also be a scum gambit not to get pushed too hard.

I’m feeling Overkill at the moment, but with someone else asking for a possible claim, and others claiming hated, I need some time to sort out who I think is scum, rather than bandwagoning somebody.
I don't think the fact that someone is claiming hated is suspicious. It's just that there can't be multiple hated townies.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #8) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:47 pm

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In post 60, mcqueen wrote:I’m actually thinking about hammering you after looking at the setup possibilities again.

3 roles have the chance of being Hated: Cult Leader, Townie, and Survivor.
— tic tac already claimed hated survivor. So, if you and joges are both hated, one of you is the cult leader. if you flip green, we all go after joges tomorrow.

Thoughts?
I already said this. That's why I voted for Overkill.

However, I'm thinking I would rather lynch joges now.

VOTE: joges
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Post Post #78 (isolation #9) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:51 pm

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In post 76, mcqueen wrote:I mean, I’m fine lynching scum today and one of you tomorrow. Scum still has to go, y’know.
Do you mean mafia? I thought scum refered to any anti-town role.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #10) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:53 pm

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I would like to lynch within the hated because we have a better chance of lynching correctly.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #11) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:00 pm

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Why is Dong mafia?
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Post Post #88 (isolation #12) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:16 pm

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In post 85, mcqueen wrote:
In post 84, tris wrote:Why is Dong mafia?
He has 4 posts, one of them putting someone at L-1 and the rest aren’t good, either.

Says we should just lynch him because “there’s no other townie” ??
I think that was a joke.

The L-1 was bad, I agree. Don't know if it's scum, but it is the most scummy thing done so far.
Chateau Lobby wrote:What if I said
I copped McQueen?
What if I didn't react?
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Post Post #89 (isolation #13) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:19 pm

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Anyone play with Chateau before?
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Post Post #90 (isolation #14) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:20 pm

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@Chateau Why do you want Overkill lynched?
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Post Post #91 (isolation #15) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:20 pm

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Goodnight
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Post Post #117 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:20 pm

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Alright, so I believe both tictac and Dongempire's claims. Which also means that Overkill must be town. I think I townread mcqueen from yesterday. So, that leaves Allomancer, Chateau Lobby, and hawkleader3. I'll have to take a look at those three. Cult can throw all that off, but I feel strongly that we have a very good chance of hitting scum if we lynch within those 3.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:46 pm

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That was a joke.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:48 pm

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In post 105, Maestro wrote:
There has been a rule update after review:
Cult win majority is ½ of living players + 1.
This would seem to imply that there is at least the possibility of cult.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:00 pm

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In post 126, mcqueen wrote:VOTE: Chateau Lobby
reasons?
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Post Post #129 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:10 pm

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@hawkleader, you haven't really given any reads yet. Care to share?

@Allomancer, you haven't really either, unless you count choosing to vote for joges over Overkill.

I'm not really sure what to make of Chateau.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:46 pm

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In post 130, Allomancer wrote:I really didn't like 111 and 114. the fact that chateau changed their mind so quickly is suspicious. If you just have a question about someone's logic, you shouldn't be voting them for it. The fact that he was willing to unvote after a post explaining a single statement means it wasn't really a valid scumread in the first place.
Why is it scummy to remove your vote after the person you were voting addressed your concerns. People change their minds.
In post 131, Allomancer wrote:null-read on mcqueen. Doesn't feel scummy, but isn't really scumhunting either. Either mcqueen is 3rd party or mcqueen is just apathetic town.
That's true for today. I'd like more explanation for that vote, but yesterday he did more than most.
In post 133, Allomancer wrote:tris is a fairly strong townread. 117 was good, and there's just a general towny feeling about her.
What about 117? Most of what I said there was obvious stuff.
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I'm liking your posts there, even where I don't agree. Seems pretty genuine. I'm gonna take another look at Chateau.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:51 pm

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VOTE: Chateau Lobby
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Post Post #140 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:40 pm

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In post 139, mcqueen wrote:
In post 130, Allomancer wrote:I really didn't like 111 and 114. the fact that chateau changed their mind so quickly is suspicious. If you just have a question about someone's logic, you shouldn't be voting them for it. The fact that he was willing to unvote after a post explaining a single statement means it wasn't really a valid scumread in the first place.
this. And his baiting me to help him hammer Overki11 yesterday.

Keep in mind, I'm not placing a townread on Overki11 right now, I'm just saying CL looks pretty bad, too.
Do you not think Overkill is clear?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:34 pm

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In post 154, Donempire wrote:By the way, there are jesters in the game. Chateu's play and typing style doesnt match up with his previous games at all, so i think this might be a possible jester. However, it also might be a double WIFOM to make us believe he is jester.
There isnt much downside to lynching him but we do lose a lynch which is huge in a bastard game, so i figure we shouldnt be lynching him right now.
I agree.
UNVOTE:
Trying to figure out the setup right now. Came up with this:
One K
Two T's
Two S's
If we can figure out the jester and kill the cult leader (if there is one) then im pretty positive we can ride this out. So if jester claims right now, i am willing to play to his wincon after we get rid of cultist.
The setup has been modified, so we can't know exact letters.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:34 pm

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Messed up that quote.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:39 pm

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Wait, if Chateau is jester why hasn't he self hammered.


Oh, there can be loved jester.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:40 pm

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That should have been a strikethrough.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:43 pm

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In post 154, Donempire wrote: If we can figure out the jester and kill the cult leader (if there is one) then im pretty positive we can ride this out. So if jester claims right now, i am willing to play to his wincon after we get rid of cultist.
Wouldn't that throw away a lynch?
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Post Post #162 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:46 pm

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In post 132, Allomancer wrote:townleaning on hawk but he hasn't posted enough for me to be sure
Why this townlean?
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Post Post #163 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:47 pm

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VOTE: hawkleader3
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Post Post #172 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:22 am

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What about tictac?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #32) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:31 am

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But, why would we lynch a survivor?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:47 pm

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Why would the mafia claim loved if they were not? That could lead them to getting accidentally lynched.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #34) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:54 pm

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I don't want to lynch Chateau. This narrows my lynch pool to Drixx or Allomancer, but I should probably look at mcqueen again.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #35) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:58 pm

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I have to be wrong somewhere.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 165, tictac wrote:
In post 159, tris wrote:
Wait, if Chateau is jester why hasn't he self hammered.


Oh, there can be loved jester.
Easy test does come to mind here.
Do as thou wilt tho.
Actually, this is right. Someone could vote and quickly unvote to test loved and there wouldn't be chance for a self hammer.
VOTE: Chateau Lobby
This is L-1 if not loved, and L-2 if loved.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:12 pm

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In post 196, mcqueen wrote:
In post 193, tris wrote:I don't want to lynch Chateau. This narrows my lynch pool to Drixx or Allomancer, but I should probably look at mcqueen again.
englighten me. why me?
Because my lynchpool has gotten small, and I'm starting to townread Allomancer more than I was townreading you.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #38) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:14 pm

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Do have any reads beyond what you are voting right now?
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Post Post #205 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:58 pm

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Hold on, (Assuming the day's not already over)

We know two people who cannot be town. The dead Serial Killer, and the claimed Survivor. It's doubtful that Chateau is town. So, if we have two mafia, we started with only 4 town at max? Maybe there's only one mafia? Or is Chateau actually Loved Townie? Maybe the Survivor is a fakeclaiming Mafia? Or is town actually only a plurality? It seems like there's too many non-town in here.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #40) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:15 am

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UNVOTE:

I don't have time right now, but I'll come back to this later.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #41) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:04 pm

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I haven't really been liking mcqueen today. My initial town read has worn off.

VOTE: mcqueen
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Post Post #222 (isolation #42) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:15 pm

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In post 221, mcqueen wrote:Because CL is loved a small wagon starts on me

???
No. CL being loved has nothing to do with it.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #43) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:21 pm

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You just haven't really done much today. You've voted Chateau and just left it at that. You haven't really been engaging with much. (Well, now you are of course)
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Post Post #229 (isolation #44) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:18 pm

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In post 228, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 226, Donempire wrote:^lynch this
thats pretty much happening regardless
What?
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Post Post #238 (isolation #45) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:01 pm

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In post 230, Slaxx wrote:VOTE: Chateau

I don’t understand this game

So

I’m just going to do competing wagons and hope that’s informative for someone with a better grasp than me.
Really? Do you not have any reads?
In post 235, Chateau Lobby wrote:Some of you are so
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Some of you are so
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The clock is ticking...

UNVOTE:
Why are you unvoting?
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Post Post #244 (isolation #46) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:27 pm

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In post 239, Slaxx wrote:I literally just fucking have a read two posts above
What I mean is, why not vote based on reads rather than just voting for no reason between the two main wagons?
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Post Post #245 (isolation #47) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:28 pm

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In post 242, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 229, tris wrote:
In post 228, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 226, Donempire wrote:^lynch this
thats pretty much happening regardless
What?
is there really a scenrio where we dont lynch CL?
If he's a jester, there's no reason to lynch him.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #48) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:29 pm

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Would you like to explain why?
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Post Post #260 (isolation #49) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:03 am

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In post 208, Allomancer wrote:UNVOTE:
Probably a jester here. I would doubt there was a loved Cult Leader.
In post 255, Allomancer wrote:Ok, well if Chateau isn't a townie, VOTE: Chateau. He doesn't seem like a jester IMO.
What made you change your mind on this?
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Post Post #261 (isolation #50) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:05 am

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In post 259, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 257, Donempire wrote:I'd really like you to give more than two shits as well, overkill. I'd rather have tictac speaking rather than you not doing anything.
I have more time after the weekend.
Anyway all Tictac is doing currently is helping scum and feels scum motivated.
Are you thinking they're not really survivor?
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Post Post #262 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:23 am

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I guess since a jester is a liability anyway, we might as well lynch Chateau in case he's a cult leader.

VOTE: Chateau
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Post Post #280 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:44 pm

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So, the lyncher is just going to stay around pointlessly?
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Post Post #284 (isolation #53) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:53 am

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I'm not really sure what to do here.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #54) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:06 am

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Wait, so me and Overkill are the only town left?
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Post Post #292 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:39 pm

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In post 290, mcqueen wrote:Alright, I've decided to come clean. I'm the Lyncher.
This makes sense.
In post 73, mcqueen wrote:
In post 72, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 70, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 15, Donempire wrote:I'm town, and since this is bastard, you may as well lynch me since i doubt there is any other townie
In the meantime though,
VOTE: hawkleader3 for being the lynchpin
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In post 54, Donempire wrote:I dont get this hated/loved thing. I dont even know if town can win with this mess of roles floating around. Doesnt mean im not going to try, but im going to be less able as im understanding it.

With that said,
VOTE: Overkill11, and lets hop on this gravy train. I dont even know if lynching certain scum in certain order helps us more, so i may take off this vote.
bandwagoning/sheeping a vote to L1 nice

Dong is scum btw
Don't try to redirect us now.
Don’t redirect us to the dude who put him at L-1 in the first place, so you could try to bait me to hammer?

VOTE: Dongempire
In post 76, mcqueen wrote:I mean, I’m fine lynching scum today and one of you tomorrow. Scum still has to go, y’know.
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It's a good thing Mafia killed the lynchee or mcqueen could have teamed up with them today.
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In post 284, tris wrote:I'm not really sure what to do here.
Let's make things easy then.

Lynching anything that isn't mafia is a lose for town
no lynching is also a lose for town, because I'm gonna side with mafia tomorrow, if this goes to no-lynch.
Lynching is definitely what town should be doing about now.

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This pool contains: lyncher, 2 maf, inspector.
The choices can be narrowed to 3(2/3) or 2(1/2) if the inspector claims. (3 if there is no counterclaim, 2 if there is one)
The lyncher might also claim/might also be counterclaimed. I have zero idea what incentives would be at play there.

@Over Ya really do want to deal with neutral 3rd parties, because our goodwill is the only thing that makes it even theoretically possible that ya might lynch mafia ever. I kinda liked Dong and I think tris might be town and she puts in some effort, is the only reason I'm even saying this, and not simply letting this day go to no-lynch.
Are you sure you're a survivor?
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Post Post #295 (isolation #56) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:34 am

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Vote for no lynch if you want to live.

VOTE: No Lynch
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Post Post #316 (isolation #57) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:06 pm

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I got a little paranoid towards the end that tictac was really the Inspector which is why I didn't immediately attempt to threaten them, but I decided that was pretty unlikely.

It was nice that you guys never lynched anyone you suspected of being mafia. Going for the third parties instead.
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