Me three.
Micro 847: BASTARD++ (GAME OVER!)
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Like neither does lynching non-SK third parties, so.
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jorges was a serial killer. There's not gonna be two.In post 108, Allomancer wrote:0 deaths probably means no serial killer since there can only be one doctor.- tictac
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Easy test does come to mind here.In post 159, tris wrote:Wait, if Chateau is jester why hasn't he self hammered.
Oh, there can be loved jester.
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Oh, come on now.
I'm voting for super-obvs mafioso rn, ie I'm co-operating with town.
Loved Jester does not claim loved, unless he wants to get nightkilled as suspected cultist.
Unloved Jester would have self-hammered.
Loved town does not co-exist with 1-shot doc.
Loved cultist also would not have claimed.
ergo, not loved, ergo lying, ergo mafia.
Didn't think I'd need to spell it out for yall, but here ya go.
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Now let's say I'm wrong about all of the above and he actually is a Jester.
What are his mylo incentives like? If he lynches town, he loses, if he lynches scum he's making it less likely that he'd be lynched the next day.
0 motivation to vote anyone but himself (and that loved he claims is not operative in mylo).
At least my potential-mylo incentives are lynch-neutral (i.e. I'm not gonna increase the risk losing if I let a lynch go thru. tbh, if Dong asks I'd let a lynch thru, cause 176 was funny)
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wow.
okay then.
VOTE: mcqueen
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@ tris: Number of parties is down to random chance. This is a bastard game, there is no quarantee of it being balanced at all.https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... tard%2B%2B
relevant bists:
TT = Inspector + 1-Shot Doctor + Hated Towny <-- only line w 1-shot doc. note absense of loved town.
all possible ways to be loved unless Maestro randomly added some, which seems super unlikely:
CCCC =Loved Cult-Leader
CCCCC =Loved Cult Leader+ Cultist
J =Loved Jester
TTT = Inspector +Loved Towny
T = Inspector + Doctor +Loved Towny
0 T's = Inspector + Doctor + 1-Shot Vigilante + Hated Towny +Loved Towny
@allo & over: It's guaranteed mylo tomorrow if ya lynch me. Lynching a 3rd party is like not lynching at all. Sure, ya not risking losing a townie, ya also not getting a chance to lynch mafia.
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I think Dong is actually 1-shot and not full-doc, because he targeted Overkiill.
1-shot doc would have known there was a hated town in the setup. Full doc would not have known if Over was town or cult at the time. I doubt he would have used a protect on a possible cultist.
Lynching Chat is not the worst idea. He's gonna self-vote as Jester if taken to lylo and win with mafia. As cult he's just gonna win if he's still alive tomorrow.
It's not necessarily the best idea either. He might be nightkilled if he's not lynched. It depends on if the mafia think Jester or Cultist is more likely. (Jester is more likely by raw odds, but that does not take his play into account)
Maybe Jester-test him and see if he self-hammers at 5 votes, then leave him alive if he's cult and let him be nightkilled? <-- He'd use the night to turn someone if he's cult, and no chance of hitting a mafioso if he's Jester is the cost here.
I'd still probs lean on trying to lynch actual mafia as town, but if ya wanna lynch him I'm not gonna fight it.- tictac
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Let's make things easy then.In post 284, tris wrote:I'm not really sure what to do here.
Lynching anything that isn't mafia is a lose for town
no lynching is also a lose for town, because I'm gonna side with mafia tomorrow, if this goes to no-lynch.
Lynching is definitely what town should be doing about now.
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This pool contains: lyncher, 2 maf, inspector.
The choices can be narrowed to 3(2/3) or 2(1/2) if the inspector claims. (3 if there is no counterclaim, 2 if there is one)
The lyncher might also claim/might also be counterclaimed. I have zero idea what incentives would be at play there.
@Over Ya really do want to deal with neutral 3rd parties, because our goodwill is the only thing that makes it even theoretically possible that ya might lynch mafia ever. I kinda liked Dong and I think tris might be town and she puts in some effort, is the only reason I'm even saying this, and not simply letting this day go to no-lynch.- tictac
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Yeah.In post 292, tris wrote:Are you sure you're a survivor?
Being a survivor doesn't mean I can't help lynch scum if I feel like it.
If this does end up fully solved today, I will have to randomize who I'll play for during first 48h of tomorrow tho, to avoid getting nightkilled out of spite - tictac
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