Mini Normal 2053 [Completed]

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So what actually happened?

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Who knows I thought they were playing until they actually started getting replaced

When I saw the replacements thread I noticed the list was quite huge.

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Looks like the interesting players are gone.

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I'll try to be one interesting player, I promise.

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I haven't started the fancy read all the way from page 1 but I can already tell rb is town.

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I'm here for the peace and the deers.

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So far the replacements seem good.

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Is it worth it spamming the thread catching up all the way from page 1 to here?

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Jibril, whatever that is

Jibril is town just because I townread rb.

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Oh, I planned to get there by myself.

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Yo man, can I spam up now?

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I feel like a part of me is missing when I don't do my famous catch up.

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Oh hi Ruby Red

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VOTE: TTTT

you’ll see why

Why?

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Hello.

Hello.

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VOTE: Flippy Nips I only like perky people.

I don't.

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Maybe in a determinate situation I do though.

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(lmao when I answer that while Rockabye is playing)

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For the rest of page 1 I'll just say Emperor flippyNips and TTTT are town.

I'm not that much of a spammer.

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obvscum still alive

sigh..

im going to bed

when i wake up joges should be lynched

Let's see

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Reading me from beginning now gives me nausea.

Like, I want to go straight to the point.

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no i don't really care tbh

I think you do care
but it is only page 4

Yeh this is bad

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Spoiler:

sup

mumble town, flippy probtown, rb probtown is what i've got so far

Yeah, Flavor. If town!Flavor thinks the activity is a town tell, he should have waited a couple days to see if it continued, rather than telegraphing that it looks townie to him. From a scum!flavor perspective, it could be early buddying.

pretty good thought actually

towny

thespio is town btw, if i get lynched you don't lynch him

btw t4 is town

saudade can be town for now too

I would like you to town read me as well, thank you.

you may be town too

smh these people copying my style

wow my opinions are facts imo

wow what's wrong with it

Rb confuses me...

Not Voting (4): 214chrnor, joges, Persivul, Flavor Leaf

who the hell is 214chrrhcnor?!

game solved

CONFSCUM
Bittersweet
Emperor flippyNips
214chrnor*
Thespio
Mumble
Flavor Leaf
stan1ey
or
joges
Saudade
Persivul
rb
CONFTOWN

Yeah, sounds reasonable.

bonus points to anyone who can tell me what all three of these posts have in common

bittersweet and tttt wagons both good choices imo

thespio's a good vote but not really a wagon right now so
VOTE: bittersweet

Something smells bad about this.

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wow my endorsement of jorges really works. how about my condemnation of stanley. this guys a solid 6/10 scum.

VOTE: stan

That's the first time Flavor has unvoted since their unvote of an RVS vote. I don't like the picture you wanted to paint here based on one instance. You didn't word it "It was really easy for you to unvote right now." You said:

Its very easy to persuade you to unvote

Which makes it sound like a thing that has been happening all game.

both these posts are much worse than stan1ey's post tbh

reachy as fuck

Can't wait to reach to the mass replace out part.

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you're actually fucking twisted as a human

@mod

/replace me

Okay, idk what actually happened

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you literally derive pleasure from distorting reality for the purpose of gaslighting people

not just in mafia, you actually enjoy it as a person and enjoy the negative attention it brings. it's fucking disgusting and i'm not interested in playing in any games with you.

I don't know it escalated to this.

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*how

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no, it fucking

is not

. who in their right mind actually reads "yeah this person is always scum here" or "this person is always town here" as referring to the website and not

the game

?

People who understand the meaning of the word "always."

If you meant "definitely," it's not our fault you didn't actually say that.

"Always" fits fine with what Ruby was saying. You're a bit of a pedant.

I'm

a pedant? I'm not the one who's saying that a person must be out of their mind to read it as it's actually written.

OK, I'm out of my mind then for taking

always

to mean what it means.

mod, please replace me

People are too overemotional.

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So what actually happened?

Future me answering past me:

Nothing that actually makes sense

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I'm done and my conclusion is nothing.

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Sure, the problem is that I feel like my number of townreads is higher than the estimate number of town slots in this game.

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nothing like a nice screaming deathtunnel game to make me hate myself

???

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I'm relatively confident TTTT and FL are both scum here.

This is new.

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Slaxx is just playing a political game. Not sure if I think it’s AI.

Tulsi Gabbard is the best democrat candidate.

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Slaxx is just playing a political game. Not sure if I think it’s AI.

Tulsi Gabbard is the best democrat candidate.

Don’t you start

Should we talk about republican candidates then?

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Idk how TTTT flips town if Ruby flips town here.

What about it makes them not TvT?

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why TTTT?

His interaction with Emperor FlippyNips looks TvTT

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Having too many town reads sounds like a scum problem

Ho ho ho

Merry Christmas

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Hey, Alonzo. Are you town?

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I miss rb, he's usually the best cohesion I have.

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If Ruby is RC, then obviously I'll be paranoid about him being scum, but his reads would be worth looking at.

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ok, didn't realise that at all, definately read like quite an inexperienced player, but goes some way to explaining the extra needle in those posts.

I’d say he’s a similar player to RadiantCowbells, and about as confident. A little more aggressive, though, so yeah, definitely not new, haha. He’s generally considered a heavy in any game he’s in.

I don't think he's more aggressive than RC.

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Hmm, I can just handle RC’s aggressiveness better, I guess.

I don't. Though, maybe because I don't think we ever tunneled each other.

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I miss my old bossy days.

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Is there any rule against self-voting sitewide?

I can't find one in Sheep's rules.

No, there's no rule against self-voting and hopefully there never will.

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Sorry if anyone thinks its a bad play but I think its the right one.

Expand.

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If it's just to sort a tunnel then it's pointless, tunnelers will just change their target.

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Creature you're currently on Flavor Leaf, but that was where your predecessor left your vote... are you too indifferent about it to unvote or are you ok with your vote there?

I'm actually okay with my vote there, I could also do RR.

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categorically false

if slaxx is scum obviously i reconsider, nevermind that scum probably tries to take a shot at me

I mean after their target flip.

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whats the chances 6 of you switch to or in the next 6 hours?

Well, I'm in

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What wagon though?

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What wagon though?

^FL

Do it

I think my vote is already there.

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Okay, Slaxx, stan1ey and Flavor Leaf are all bad ideas. Where do we go next?

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Haven't seen Bittersweet, but I think I liked the replacement.

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I think you'd be a bad lynch too.

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VOTE: or

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I'm feeling reckless

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Semi lurking day 1.

with about 100 posts?

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We could like try to atleast get a lynch.

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We could like try to atleast get a lynch.

slaxx or stan creature?

Ugh, I'd rather neither of them.

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VOTE: Slaxx

Okay, I can see it being optimal now

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2 more votes

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wtf is a rolrblockey?

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wait... did he just claim Mafia Roleblocker?

Now I think LolWagons/Slaxx are Porkens' alts.

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VOTE: or

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Dammit, the or wagon could've been viable yesterday.

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Hey all just finished Mini 2046

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Oh shit I didn't rand 2-shot commuter

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I atleast know who or is now

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do you have insight for us on that front?

rb was way more passive there.

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At a very quick skim I notice that you posted 3 memes and it seems like you were having fun... are you more likely to have fun when town, and are you having fun this game?

Dunno, I need to engage in a fight.

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I think day 1s are just my bad days.

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Also I need a Vorkuta to defend

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I'm fine with any of them

maybe a bit undecided on TTTT

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but would be pretty entertaining to get in a fight with one of them

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What do you think about Mumble?

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This game can still be a funny playground.

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game solved

CONFSCUM
Bittersweet
Emperor flippyNips
214chrnor*
Thespio
Mumble
Flavor Leaf
stan1ey
or
joges
Saudade
Persivul
rb
CONFTOWN

Yeah, sounds reasonable.

I guess it's time for me to start actually playing, huh?

There's not really much to go off of, but the exchange makes me lean towards Flavor Leaf and rb being town.

The only posts that actually matter from Bittersweet.

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Alonzo can go

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Oh happy day

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I think he’s already posted more than he normally would have if he was scum.

This looks like he’s excited to be town. only his first game on site he was town in.

This is probably just bad strategically rather than scummy, but either way it stuck out to me.

Clearing it up, I know FlippyNips in real life.

I’m sitting in the back of his car as I type this.

Just noticed this.

Damn, wished I could havia real life mafia friends.

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Well, atleast I got two of my school friends to make an account in this forums (though never played a game) and another one interested in (but never made an account so far).

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(just trying to push a talk)

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Amazing

I received a prod and Mumble didn't

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So was this game abandoned?

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Hi I'm a good boy

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Flavor Leaf, I need your lead.

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is this the better compromise?

Tbh no.
What about creature

see this good post?
or shouldn't die

Suggesting me as a lynch is definitely not a good post.

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Let me introduce you to:

town creature: viewtopic.php?t=78012&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... B%5D=27374
scum creature: viewtopic.php?f=53&t=77190&user_select%5B%5D=27374

now iso creature in this game. Which creature is it?
PS: observe the clear post count differential between the two roles too.

Postcount isn't that AI for me anymore. I can have a low postcount as town too.

Also the fact I'm fairly close to the top posters shouldn't mean I'm more likely to be town than scum?

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Cool

I suppose this game was mod abandoned

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What's everyone's opinion on lynching mumble?

Maybe would be a good idea to get rid of the slot

I don't think it's town anyway

[Creature]

Postcount isn't that AI for me anymore. I can have a low postcount as town too.

Link please

As you wish: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=78188

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Creature why were ok with lynching Slaxx only AFTER he said he'd vengekill me?

I figured a vengeful would be better than try to push some desperate counterwagon on someone else. Also I didn't really pay attention to Slaxx's target as he could change it to anyone.

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I don't think I cared so much if you died anyway.

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Like, I was more focused on preserving the likelier to be town (such FL, stan1ey and Slaxx)

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Postcount isn't that AI for me anymore. I can have a low postcount as town too.

Link please

As you wish: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=78188

28 posts in 9 pages?
Like im not reading the game in detail but that implies 150 posts in 48 pages in this game?

Damn man, I actually replaced in, so definitely that implies less posts.

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yeah if this is the best link you can come up with as such a prolific player, I think you're scum.

What if I call you an idiot? Can you find a scum game of mine where I call someone an idiot?

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How do you expect me to be active in a game that irradiates inactivity?

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I'm not sure wtf you mean here

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You, Alonzo, Ruby, Mumble, or, joges

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I feel tempted to just get rid of Alonzo and Mumble's slot.

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You, Alonzo, Ruby, Mumble, or, joges

OK.
so for the rest of these...
stan1ey
Weiss Schnee
Jibril
town or scum?
no need to get into details for now
unless you want to

Town

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why Jibril town?

becuz rb town

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Well, this game is gonna slip back to inactivity and I'll eat the blame for not being at 150+ posts.

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Just assume the scum are Alozon, Mumble and Ruby Red.

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mumbles pretty scummy. But wagoning him is not going to give us any response and we might involuntarily drop a TPR.
+ no associated tells no matter what color he flips.

If we're going to wagon Mumble, then we may as well just lynch Mumble.

If you want to go for Alonzo or Ruby Red, feel free to though.

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We have two days to do something.

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Meh I'm just gonna get rid of this slot:

VOTE: Mumble

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VOTE: Alonzo

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Looks like there are those among us who don't want to hear my reads....

Well, you're not even posting them despite your promise.

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Maybe Creature's right and we should just lynch Mumble

like I think he's a mislynch and there's a decent chance a replacement could recuperate the slot

and there's the risk of him being unclaimed tpr

but I won't have time to evaluate the claims if this goes into tomorrow anyway because I'm gonna be busy so functionally if there's no l-1 tonight, everyone could be an unclaimed tpr if it's just going to be rushed lynch tomorrow

Main issue is I'm having a really hard time staying excited for thinking any one person in particular is scum

Apparently we can't take the responsibility and lynch someone even if they cry against it.

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If I do not say there is a sub and no one has subbed in, there is no sub.

If I do not say there is a deadline extension and the deadline has not been extended, there is not a deadline extension.

I'm tempted to orchestrate a mass replace out of this game like what happened earlier.

I suggest just modkilling the slot.

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It’s just one slot. We don’t necessarily need an extension just because we can’t get it together.

Yeh, but it's sorta hard to go on a lynch and we give the slot a chance to get away from lynch.

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VOTE: Or

I need it spelled out

What do you think about DDL?

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VOTE: Ruby Red

Fuck it. This is probably scum for the Slaxx push. TTTT everything comes out tomorrow. Same for m.

VOTE: Ruby Red

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Flavor Leaf died.

Spoiler:

Welcome to Mini Normal 2053, Flavor Leaf! You are a

Vanilla Town

. You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.

You have no abilities.

TTTT died.

Spoiler:

Welcome to Mini Normal 2053, TTTT! You are a

Town Mason

. You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated or nothing can stop that from happening.

You know that

[REDACTED]

is

Town

.

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Sup nerds and creature
I'm back =)

Well, it sucks you got scum D:

[Creature]

but then or just dies.

???

[Creature]

I'd rather not massclaim.

[Creature]

Oh right, or is TTTT's partner

For some reason I thought it was joojes

[Creature]

I won't take responsibility for this loss if I am put in scumhammer range before I can do what I have to do.

[Creature]

I'm ok with creature claiming

I won't claim though.

glgl

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I hope not. If a vig did this I will be furious.

Likely they did. I wouldn't be surprised if scum thought FL was truthful about his claim.

[Creature]

I shot Nips and FL.

lol

Hmm, I'll probably try to have you shoot someone in the PoE.

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It's alonzo, creature and jibril

I think we lynch Alonzo today.

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then eventually I'll be obvtown and we can discuss the next lynch better.

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Yeah, Mumble is pretty much scum this game. He doesn't play like this as town.

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Alonzo + ssbm_Kyouko + ??? (not or neither joges neither me)

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actually I lean Weiss as last scum.

Saudade looks really bad this game.

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Weiss is not town.

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or is conftown through TTTT
joges is conftown through his vig claim

rb has been pretty town, Jibril has been fairly town today, you have been town

If any of you is scum then I'll gladly take the blame for the loss

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but I highly believe it's just Alonzo + ssbm + Weiss

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VOTE: Alonzo

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joges, can you still vig?

[Creature]

I say you shoot within {ssbm, Weiss}

If you happen to shoot me, atleast lynch ssbm and Weiss in a line. I take the blame if one of them happen to be town.

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Slaxx was pretty town and I was sad I couldn't have lynched someone scummier (even if it was Ruby Red). Though, his strategy was pretty bold.

I think I didn't give Ruby Red enough time.

And my push on or and TTTT was the worst, should've listened to them earlier.

I still kick myself for being too hesitant on lynching the fuck out of Alonzo or even Mumble.

Also sorry for falling back on activity through the game.

Though, rn I'm taking Alonzo + ssbm + Weiss as my final bet.

Not sure how long I'll survive, but atleast listen to me here.

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Why do you think its weiss

Saudade's townplay isn't like this.

Also I think Weiss' play here really fits MariaR's scumplay.

[Creature]

Wow I'm now speculating Weiss could be MariaR and that'd mean MariaR is definitely scum here.

Though, regardless of whether Weiss is MariaR or not, that's a pretty common scumplay we have here.

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And thoughts on jibril?

I don't remember rb ever ragequiting as scum and Jibril's selfvote is pretty towny.

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Didn't find much in Creature's ISO but that's just his posting style I guess...

Jibril, whatever that is

Jibril is town just because I townread rb.

This I agree with somewhat, because I was leaning town on rb, but I'll need to read Jibril more. Seems like a gimmicky player so I skimmed a lot of her posts.

You, Alonzo, Ruby, Mumble, or, joges

For context, these names are a list of the reads creature was least sure about, and "You" is TTTT. Interesting to me that Alonzo and joges, the other 2 along with Creature in my POE, are on this list.

VOTE: Ruby Red

Fuck it. This is probably scum for the Slaxx push. TTTT everything comes out tomorrow. Same for m.

VOTE: Ruby Red

I don't like the way Creature got onto this wagon.

Keeping him in my POE for now. Will read others tomorrow. I'm not sure if we're MYLO right now so I'm not going to place my vote until I've read up on the others.

This is scum posing for my lynch.

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Almost tempted to no lynch so vig can cycle to even night again but then or just dies.

To massclaim or not to massclaim... I think not to protect the vig?

But we do need to take claims probably at l-2 rather than l-1 since scum might just rush if we do run up the vig...

I want to push stan here but I'm very slightly worried he is the vig so I'm almost tempted to say the vig should just call the shot so we have two ics.

That would theoretically protect or altho I am not sure it is optimal.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

This is scum positioning.

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I won't mind massclaiming that much now that the game is solved in my mind.

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Mumble's postcount alone highly indicates scum.

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Yeah, Alonzo's claim is completely shit

We got one scum now

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I thought he just wanted to have a good laugh.

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We should've probably just lynched him regardless of what he claimed.

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If he's town vig shoots weiss

What if he's scum?

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I can believe its Weiss, Creature and Stan til proven otherwise.

Oh fuck, he caught all of us.

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I'd say shoot ssbm, but I guess I can do fine with Jibril if I'm no longer a mislynch option.

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Also I think Weiss' play here really fits MariaR's scumplay.

this is saying weiss's play is overwhelming town tbh. not many players can pull off mariaR's scumplay

Well, it's not hard to recognize a MariaR's scumplay. The AtE got old.

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can u all unvote. if scum has a roleblocker then its game over since joges can be rb'd even when weiss is scum.

Good thing we're lynching the roleblocker claim.

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Alonzo's claim directly counterclaims Weiss and also it's so obviously fake it hurts.

[Creature]

i dont understand why would alonzo claim such a falsifyable role. Are you arguing that he's just a bad player? idt its that simple

If his intention was to out a power role, he did pretty well.

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out a power role if that power role is investigative and named creature/weiss
at the cost of his own lynch?
when there are already conf towns/prs out there?

seems like a stretch.

Would you kill a mason over a hidden cop?

[Creature]

Shit, gonna be hard.

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I know you have the TBTBS issues, but Occam's Razor says Alonzo just claimed something and got caught because of it. Simple.

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tbtbs = too bold to be scum?

I had "bad" over "bold" in mind, but that also serves.

[Creature]

{informed that the person he hammered the previous day was town}

So VT?

[Creature]

Okay, Weiss can rolecop me.

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Why can't the claim be fako? As Alonzo said, you want to believe in a claim that just checks dead people?

I don't buy it very much either, but as long we follow the {Jibril, ssbm, Weiss} PoE, we should be alright.

[Creature]

creature: Weiss or Alonzo which one do you believe more? Both? Neither?

Well, I already made it clear I don't believe Alonzo. As for Weiss, well, I don't see anything that excludes this from being a scum theater.

[Creature]

I still think she's scum.

[Creature]

Can someone give me a different reason?

Yes, I can, but I don't want to tell.

[Creature]

especially when he gives no reasons to discount stan scum is extremely fishy.

Well, I mentioned multiple times (including D2) I find stan1ey pretty town.

[Creature]

Here's what I'm going off of right now
{Alonso, ssbm, stan}
or
{Creature, ssbm, stan}

Error 507: You must insert Alonzo or Weiss.

[Creature]

You realise We're in mylo right, theres no "if x flips town..." if we lynch town its game over

joges is still a pretty vigilante.

[Creature]

between {ssbm and stan}.

I'd say ssbm first because I think we have a disagreement on Jibril and stan.

[Creature]

Why the hell would scum kill creature??

I claimed PR?

[Creature]

Also I may be pretty hard to mislynch

[Creature]

Is ssbm claiming PR?

[Creature]

Alonzo [2] -- Kyouko, Stan [l-3]

With 8 alive it's 5 to lynch

that's where we're at right now right?

I suppose I never moved off Alonzo.

[Creature]

I'm always up to get things done.

[Creature]

I personally have an issue. Is it really that hard to make your mind on Alonzo?

[Creature]

Oh right.

[Creature]

maybe boil down the massclaim to PR/VT?

[Creature]

zzzz

[Creature]

Meh, it was starting to bore me anyway.

[Creature]

Foster's Home

[Creature]

I think ssbm lynch should end the game.

[Creature]

I suppose Weiss is really a rolecop and I find it unlikely for scum to have watcher + rolecop with two masons, one vig and me.

[Creature]

I'd rather not claim my role tbh

[Creature]

Creature how much do you remember from Children of Hurin?

I remember roleblocker selfhammering D1 and game ending in a scum win because of a shitty red herring.

[Creature]

Alonzo.

[Creature]

who did you block n2?

or

[Creature]

although the chance of Creature scum after jibril's flip would mean both persivul and rb replaced out because... of theater?

It's against the rules.

[Creature]

Creature if you thought Alonzo was scum why didn't you talk about him at all on d1?

because there was a nightkill and I assumed it couldn't be Alonzo doing the kill.

[Creature]

Kyouko your slot looks bad

Said it a lot.

[Creature]

ssbm being scum means I was 2/3

Hopefully I was right about it

[Creature]

Rolecop isn't that powerful tbh. If there's no second scum PR, then basically it could at most catch one scum.

[Creature]

also I dunno why mafia jailkeeper would be limited to 2-shot.

[Creature]

Yeh, at this point I'm mostly waiting for ssbm to come into the thread to have a say.

[Creature]

Meh, I'm thinking ssbm would've posted something by now.

[Creature]

Ain't I obvtown enough?

[Creature]

Guess I should like, meta persivul or something idk, not doing that tonight tho

You gonna finish that or can I just end the game?

[Creature]

The possibility of this being town irritates me.

[Creature]

Is or around?

[Creature]

hey creature is stanley conf town for you

I'm pretty confident he's town.

[Creature]

man i really cant see Weiss-scum. I think if scum was in weiss's position they'd get real complacent. It should be pretty easy to take it to lylo and win, under stanley's urgings for that hammer.

Dunno. I'd not clear her for that.

[Creature]

Well, I suppose ssbm doing little to give town a lead after her lynch is indication the game would end there.

[Creature]

Either this game ends as a hero or it lasts long enough to become the villain