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Wait. There can only be one hated townie. Assuming tictac is telling the truth about being a survivor, and since their can only be one hated survivor as well, one of overkill or joges has to be a cult-leader, serial killer, or lying mafia. (Or lying jester?).
All the possibilities for town roles only include one hated townie. The set up has apparently been modified to work as a micro, but I wouldn't think those modifications would include adding additional hated townies.
In post 35, hawkleader3 wrote:Found it. I was looking for hated town or hated vanilla townie. Thanks! Holy crap that's a wonky role. Guess I'll ponder all the cool scenarios that wrench in the works entails
Have you looked at the possible roles in the setup?
All the possibilities for town roles only include one hated townie. The set up has apparently been modified to work as a micro, but I wouldn't think those modifications would include adding additional hated townies.
In post 52, mcqueen wrote:Why are people asking for claims of a cult leader? As if they’d really claim that?
I get why anybody who’s hated would want to claim, but even then... I still wasn’t super fond of it. Reason is it could also be a scum gambit not to get pushed too hard.
I’m feeling Overkill at the moment, but with someone else asking for a possible claim, and others claiming hated, I need some time to sort out who I think is scum, rather than bandwagoning somebody.
I don't think the fact that someone is claiming hated is suspicious. It's just that there can't be multiple hated townies.
In post 60, mcqueen wrote:I’m actually thinking about hammering you after looking at the setup possibilities again.
3 roles have the chance of being Hated: Cult Leader, Townie, and Survivor.
— tic tac already claimed hated survivor. So, if you and joges are both hated, one of you is the cult leader. if you flip green, we all go after joges tomorrow.
Thoughts?
I already said this. That's why I voted for Overkill.
However, I'm thinking I would rather lynch joges now.
Alright, so I believe both tictac and Dongempire's claims. Which also means that Overkill must be town. I think I townread mcqueen from yesterday. So, that leaves Allomancer, Chateau Lobby, and hawkleader3. I'll have to take a look at those three. Cult can throw all that off, but I feel strongly that we have a very good chance of hitting scum if we lynch within those 3.
In post 130, Allomancer wrote:I really didn't like 111 and 114. the fact that chateau changed their mind so quickly is suspicious. If you just have a question about someone's logic, you shouldn't be voting them for it. The fact that he was willing to unvote after a post explaining a single statement means it wasn't really a valid scumread in the first place.
Why is it scummy to remove your vote after the person you were voting addressed your concerns. People change their minds.
In post 131, Allomancer wrote:null-read on mcqueen. Doesn't feel scummy, but isn't really scumhunting either. Either mcqueen is 3rd party or mcqueen is just apathetic town.
That's true for today. I'd like more explanation for that vote, but yesterday he did more than most.
In post 133, Allomancer wrote:tris is a fairly strong townread. 117 was good, and there's just a general towny feeling about her.
What about 117? Most of what I said there was obvious stuff.
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I'm liking your posts there, even where I don't agree. Seems pretty genuine. I'm gonna take another look at Chateau.
In post 130, Allomancer wrote:I really didn't like 111 and 114. the fact that chateau changed their mind so quickly is suspicious. If you just have a question about someone's logic, you shouldn't be voting them for it. The fact that he was willing to unvote after a post explaining a single statement means it wasn't really a valid scumread in the first place.
this. And his baiting me to help him hammer Overki11 yesterday.
Keep in mind, I'm not placing a townread on Overki11 right now, I'm just saying CL looks pretty bad, too.
In post 154, Donempire wrote:By the way, there are jesters in the game. Chateu's play and typing style doesnt match up with his previous games at all, so i think this might be a possible jester. However, it also might be a double WIFOM to make us believe he is jester.
There isnt much downside to lynching him but we do lose a lynch which is huge in a bastard game, so i figure we shouldnt be lynching him right now.
I agree. UNVOTE:
Trying to figure out the setup right now. Came up with this:
One K
Two T's
Two S's
If we can figure out the jester and kill the cult leader (if there is one) then im pretty positive we can ride this out. So if jester claims right now, i am willing to play to his wincon after we get rid of cultist.
The setup has been modified, so we can't know exact letters.
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In post 154, Donempire wrote:
If we can figure out the jester and kill the cult leader (if there is one) then im pretty positive we can ride this out. So if jester claims right now, i am willing to play to his wincon after we get rid of cultist.
Wait, if Chateau is jester why hasn't he self hammered.
Oh, there can be loved jester.
Easy test does come to mind here.
Do as thou wilt tho.
Actually, this is right. Someone could vote and quickly unvote to test loved and there wouldn't be chance for a self hammer. VOTE: Chateau Lobby
This is L-1 if not loved, and L-2 if loved.
We know two people who cannot be town. The dead Serial Killer, and the claimed Survivor. It's doubtful that Chateau is town. So, if we have two mafia, we started with only 4 town at max? Maybe there's only one mafia? Or is Chateau actually Loved Townie? Maybe the Survivor is a fakeclaiming Mafia? Or is town actually only a plurality? It seems like there's too many non-town in here.
You just haven't really done much today. You've voted Chateau and just left it at that. You haven't really been engaging with much. (Well, now you are of course)
In post 257, Donempire wrote:I'd really like you to give more than two shits as well, overkill. I'd rather have tictac speaking rather than you not doing anything.
I have more time after the weekend.
Anyway all Tictac is doing currently is helping scum and feels scum motivated.
In post 15, Donempire wrote:I'm town, and since this is bastard, you may as well lynch me since i doubt there is any other townie
In the meantime though, VOTE: hawkleader3 for being the lynchpin
ew
In post 54, Donempire wrote:I dont get this hated/loved thing. I dont even know if town can win with this mess of roles floating around. Doesnt mean im not going to try, but im going to be less able as im understanding it.
With that said, VOTE: Overkill11, and lets hop on this gravy train. I dont even know if lynching certain scum in certain order helps us more, so i may take off this vote.
bandwagoning/sheeping a vote to L1 nice
Dong is scum btw
Don't try to redirect us now.
Don’t redirect us to the dude who put him at L-1 in the first place, so you could try to bait me to hammer?
VOTE: Dongempire
In post 76, mcqueen wrote:I mean, I’m fine lynching scum today and one of you tomorrow. Scum still has to go, y’know.
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It's a good thing Mafia killed the lynchee or mcqueen could have teamed up with them today.
tictac wrote:
In post 284, tris wrote:I'm not really sure what to do here.
Let's make things easy then.
Lynching anything that isn't mafia is a lose for town
no lynching is also a lose for town, because I'm gonna side with mafia tomorrow, if this goes to no-lynch.
Lynching is definitely what town should be doing about now.
mcqueen
Allomancer
Slaxx
tris
This pool contains: lyncher, 2 maf, inspector.
The choices can be narrowed to 3(2/3) or 2(1/2) if the inspector claims. (3 if there is no counterclaim, 2 if there is one)
The lyncher might also claim/might also be counterclaimed. I have zero idea what incentives would be at play there.
@Over Ya really do want to deal with neutral 3rd parties, because our goodwill is the only thing that makes it even theoretically possible that ya might lynch mafia ever. I kinda liked Dong and I think tris might be town and she puts in some effort, is the only reason I'm even saying this, and not simply letting this day go to no-lynch.
I got a little paranoid towards the end that tictac was really the Inspector which is why I didn't immediately attempt to threaten them, but I decided that was pretty unlikely.
It was nice that you guys never lynched anyone you suspected of being mafia. Going for the third parties instead.