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Post Post #18 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:54 am

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Hello all! Let’s mess the scum up shall we?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:57 pm

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This game is remarkably shorter thanI would’ve expected lol
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Post Post #81 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 79, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 18, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hello all! Let’s mess the scum up shall we?
In post 76, Gamma Emerald wrote:This game is remarkably shorter thanI would’ve expected lol
Scummy
I’d say you’re shit at reading me but you haven’t been Town with me in a while so I don’t know what the actual level is there
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Post Post #83 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:14 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:17 pm

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Lame tryharding.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:33 am

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In post 14, Clemency wrote:never been a miller before or seen many so i'm not brushed up on the etiquette
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Post Post #171 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:52 am

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In post 39, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
In post 31, Robert2424 wrote:
Vote Near x Mello


Still Policy voting here, new game same crap.
Please don't. Not D1. Leave your bullshit behind, deal with it on D2 maybe. Let D1 be the fruitful scumhunting day it can be, without burying it beneath past grudges.
Wouldn't D1 be the best time to air grievances? We don't have to lynch off them or make them the core of the day, but it's best to take care of that early imo.
In post 35, Asking for a friend wrote:I think hoods should be claimed early.
BnL should pick up a new role pm tonight.
Aside from that I am probably going to let the duck post on my behalf, atleast for D1. This is bound to be a clusterfuck and I want to just post funny memes until we get some flips going.
Agreed on millers picking up new role PM's as soon as possible, and believe they should making full claims immediately prior to changing their role; public claim preferred, hood claim MIGHT be okay IF hood contents are known.

However.

I'd like an elaboration upon the benefits you see coming from sharing hood membership early. Yes, this is a test.
I guess I agree here...? We'll see.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:57 am

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In post 42, Clemency wrote:no you're not but nice try
I also find this worth filing away for later.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #8) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:57 am

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In post 48, Almost50 wrote:
In post 42, mastina wrote:Hi I'm a mason with Clemency.
VOTE: Joan of Arc.
Scum!
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VOTE: Almost50

You know why, monkey. No one's gonna leave you alone, so you had better start playing already.
wdym "what was the mod doing"?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #9) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:00 am

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In post 55, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 55, mastina wrote:
In post 47, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 44, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 42, mastina wrote:Hi I'm a mason with Clemency.
VOTE: Joan of Arc.
Scum!
Any particular reasons why?
Because you scumslipped, duh.
Where?
In post 56, Joan of Arc wrote:Considering I am town, there isn't any and there can't be any, so you are bluffing.
Yeah this person is scrambling it seems.
VOTE: Jaune Arc
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Post Post #176 (isolation #10) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:13 am

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In post 73, Almost50 wrote:Colour me both utterly glad and genuinely shocked then. "A50 is Town" I thought may or may not come from Cerb this early, but "better than me" totally threw me off. Cerb knows I don't see myself worthy of a comparison with him, let alone being called "better" than him.

OK, so first impression is your slot is Town (Cerb wouldn't be trying to "pocket" me, would he?). I also havge some Town vibes from Dunn, BNL, C&Y, FL (though I'll never trust my read in him this early, and off one post), Torque & AfaF (with the reservation that I don't like tw taking the backseat so early). I dunno what to do with Clem's Miller claim, but I'll give him a pass (he's -at least- honest about not having played the role before).

This leaves me with S&J, SSB, Gamma, Joan, Toog (I suspect he may have a 1-shot global protective ability?? :lol: ), Drixx, Maria (my nemesis), mastina, Robert & NxM to sort
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tbh the way it was written made more sense from Cerb
it had a fearing respect for you it seemed. Amz hadn't played with you yet so where would that come from?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #11) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:19 am

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In post 98, Dunnstral wrote:Bring something to clean up after yourself too, you're spewing all over the game thread
Spewing what exactly dear acquaintance?
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Post Post #178 (isolation #12) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:27 am

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In post 165, Toogeloo wrote:Hello.

I'm a Priest, so if we get someone at L-1, I'll gladly confirm. Of course, I could be a scum Priest, but at least the mechanical inability to hammer will be confirmed.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #13) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:35 am

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Which individuals in this game do you consider capable of that play? I'd also like reasons why.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 181, Joan of Arc wrote:I am not Jaune, and lynching me will not work.
I was being funny calling you that, and you really wanna test that?
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and you claiming that with your scrambling makes you scummier, as why would you scramble like that if you were unlynchable?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #16) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:17 am

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In post 190, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 189, Near x Mello wrote:even if you cant be lynched if we waste a day on you youre still harming town

~Near
Me? You're the ones doing it by collectively deciding to waste a day on me for no adequately explained reason.
Mmm. I hate this "it's not my fault, it's yours!" mentality with a burning passion. Mostly because I see it used primarily by foul villains.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #17) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:23 pm

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In post 195, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:

Huh. Pretty sure I am now certain I know who you're an alt of. Got it. Hi! <3

Should still answer my question though like for reals yo.

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Post Post #265 (isolation #18) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:24 pm

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In post 199, Almost50 wrote:
In post 173, Gamma Emerald wrote:wdym "what was the mod doing"?
I .. thought .. this was the game .. modded by mastina. What was so hard to understand here?
Why though?
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Post Post #269 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:28 pm

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In post 210, mastina wrote:
In post 192, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mmm. I hate this "it's not my fault, it's yours!" mentality with a burning passion. Mostly because I see it used primarily by foul villains.
Having pegged who Joan of Arc is, I can say that mentality is not alignment indicative from her.

She's still a scumread, mind you, but a peripheral one rather than a main one.
I never really meant that as a reason to suspect Jaune (I’m gonna keep doing that for lols) but w/e
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Post Post #342 (isolation #20) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 243, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 240, Chito and Yuuri wrote:
In post 239, Toogeloo wrote:Near X Mello
Kokichi Oma
Chito: I have a theory that Toogeloo is not scum with Near x Mello
Ah, I see. Kokichi is a hyda of Near x Mello
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Post Post #343 (isolation #21) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 249, Toogeloo wrote:Robert was asking questions about the channels in Channel 5, trying to figure out how many and how they work. Then posted here about reading up on game specific rules. Could be feigning obliviousness, but that means at least slightly more town than scum considering they could have obtained the info from scum chat and worked through it there.

Also...

I didn't get my first choice, but only because. I was the one who slightly delayed the game because my first choice was from Gantz: 0, which I saw on Netflix, but mod told me that it is a sequel and the original Gantz was in 2004.

Did get my second choice though.

Also...

You'll want to test my Priest role before Night 3, and then force me to test again after Night 3 to see if I changed roles or not.
So we hammer test you when it’s perfectly reasonable you can hammer. Hell no.
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Post Post #344 (isolation #22) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:05 am

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In post 267, Almost50 wrote:@Gamma: How am I supposed to answer this now? You know my alts, right? Would you be kind enough to figure out the rest?
Nothing to do with alts, everything to do with you hemorrhaging scum-exclusive info previously.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #23) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:06 am

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In post 270, Chito and Yuuri wrote:Chito: See but when you say Jaune I think of RWBY ... lol
Maybe because...that’s the joke...
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Post Post #346 (isolation #24) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:11 am

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In post 289, Torque wrote:Hey Ali what do you say if a friend of yours needs butt skin transplanted

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That’s just awful
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Post Post #347 (isolation #25) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:15 am

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In post 314, Asking for a friend wrote:Stoned Ali Reporting for duty with a very important announcement
Subject: Paint Mafia Mania! Game Over come look at the garbage fire
Alisae wrote:Is Creature Town Checklist
Is Creature Active?
Is Creature doing his usual stream of consciousness posting?
Is Creature confident in his towniness?
Is Creature taking the easy outs on his reads (IE Obvtown town, lynchbaits consensus scum)?

If the answer to the first 3 is yes and the last 1 is no, then he is town.

Let's address the first thing on the checklist.
Is he active? Answer: No he has 40 posts.
Is Creature doing his usual stream of consciousness posting? Answer: No he has 40 posts.
Is Creature confident in his towniness? Answer: No. does not read as confident to me. does not read out as confident to me (in fact it reads as defeatist)
Is Creature taking the easy outs in his reads? Based on a skim on his ISO it sure does look like it to me.
VOTE: Spike and Jet
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ITS A LYNCH
ITS A LYNCH
I’d argue he’s past purely being read by “is he posting” but I think his record in hydras has always been awful as scum so I don’t think this is a bad play. Feel like it’s too early though and now his activity will be tainted.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #26) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 329, Morality wrote:Anyone pick up Wargroove?
I’ve had a mild interest in it conceptually because it’s supposed to be a successor to Advance Wars which I like
But no have not picked it up.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #27) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:19 am

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Also SSBF proly town
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Post Post #351 (isolation #28) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:25 am

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Curious you don’t respond to Alisae’s presenting of the case but me responding to him was worth response.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #29) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 355, Almost50 wrote:
In post 344, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 267, Almost50 wrote:@Gamma: How am I supposed to answer this now? You know my alts, right? Would you be kind enough to figure out the rest?
Nothing to do with alts, everything to do with you hemorrhaging scum-exclusive info previously.
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I understand your paranoia, but it's overly naive of you to do so here for several reasons:

1- That was a slip about an in-game mechanic there. Here it was confusion about what game it is and who the mod is.

2- Do you really think I would be so careless as to slip AGAIN here? Like, there it was bc I was a replacement and I jumped the gun. Here I am a starter and have had plenty of time to read, reread and prepare well if I wanted to have anything "planned".

3- When that happened I tried my best to get out of the hole I had dug myself into without explaining much. Here I gave you as much info as I could. Try AP. Period.

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Post Post #405 (isolation #30) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:42 pm

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In post 356, Near x Mello wrote:heh you reminded me of death note mafia where you kept posting in wrong threads and wrong accounts

~Near
Well this confirmed my suspicions about which head is which
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Post Post #406 (isolation #31) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 363, Near x Mello wrote:hes been equally inactive in channel 5 if it helps you

dont really agree with you there, its just wording

~Near
I agree it's weird but don't see it as scum indicative
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In post 368, Spike and Jet wrote:and anti-vaxxers say vaccines are bad, so what?
I think this is a town!Creature response
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Post Post #408 (isolation #33) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 382, Torque wrote:
In post 349, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also SSBF proly town
why
I liked what they were saying.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #34) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:30 pm

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In post 421, Near x Mello wrote:that's because there's no town wisdom

have you read wisdom's wiki?

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Why are you speaking in third person? I know Kokichi wasn't in Death Note Mafia so Near has to be Wisdom.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #35) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:31 pm

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In post 426, BNL wrote:Is there a reason you're unpromptedly explaining things this game given you usually say "I don't explain my reads"?
It's probably town indicative imo
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Post Post #469 (isolation #36) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:33 pm

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In post 438, Torque wrote:Gamma what of ssbf's catch up did you like lol i dont get it
In a sec
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Post Post #470 (isolation #37) » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:36 pm

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In post 466, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 444, Asking for a friend wrote:Daily reminder that creature only has 2 posts in thread
He has 3. Clear attempt to mislead us.

VOTE: Asking for a friend
Firstly that was already pointed out. Second why does one more post matter?
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Post Post #529 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:23 am

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In post 496, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 470, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 466, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 444, Asking for a friend wrote:Daily reminder that creature only has 2 posts in thread
He has 3. Clear attempt to mislead us.

VOTE: Asking for a friend
Firstly that was already pointed out. Second why does one more post matter?
It matters because they are selling false information, which scum are prone to do, and that they ignored the first time when it was pointed out.
How is that such a major offense? Creature still has was less posts than xtoxm and that's what is being argued, that Creature doesn't have very many posts making him scum. Exact number means jack shit.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:24 am

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In post 505, Morality wrote:
In post 348, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 329, Morality wrote:Anyone pick up Wargroove?
I’ve had a mild interest in it conceptually because it’s supposed to be a successor to Advance Wars which I like
But no have not picked it up.
Well, it's pretty good. It's Advanced Wars fused with Fire Emblem. I'm loving it.
How so?
You know I'm a sucker for Fire Emblem.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:25 am

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In post 519, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 27, Robert2424 wrote:
In post 11, Clemency wrote:this is what happens when you pick antagonists
Only one of the characters I submitted was a protagonist. The rest was supporting characters. But I got my 1st choice. I'm kind of wondering if everybody got there first choice?
2010+ animes are pretty unpopular. I would've probably picked a Pokemon character if I was soloing.
wouldn't have counted, original series started in 1996 iirc
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Post Post #534 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:38 am

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I mean it wasn't needed but it was there for emphasis I think, the true number didn't really matter.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #42) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:56 pm

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In post 535, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 534, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean it wasn't needed but it was there for emphasis I think, the true number didn't really matter.
So, you think everyone should mislead others in that fashion?

If so, then I have 3551 posts, and it's a fact.
I wouldn't object unless it's taken to a degree beyond the initial instance
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Post Post #553 (isolation #43) » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:00 pm

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Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 567, Spike and Jet wrote:What are the claims so far?
Odd question to ask rn but ok
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Post Post #663 (isolation #45) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:19 am

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In post 591, Spike and Jet wrote:VOTE: reasonably psychotic

yukiterus new posts are fluff
and no, good points were not made about spike
I agree with this point against Cerb
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Post Post #664 (isolation #46) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:20 am

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In post 595, Almost50 wrote:
In post 592, Vedith wrote:
In post 590, Almost50 wrote:I love your honesty. here's a reward:

UNVOTE:
That was a little easy. What if I was lying?
If you had said anything else I would have suspected you were lying. This is the one and only reason I thought might make sense for that vote.
A50 is town guys.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #47) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:27 am

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In post 659, Toogeloo wrote:Did mastina just do the scumtell rule of naming 4 players she thinks are scum?

(Scum player names 4 people they think are scum)
(1 of those 4 is actually scum setting up a read to be bussed later for later or to garner town cred when they flip)

I forget what that scumtell is called, but I know it's a thing lol.

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Creature is spam posting now, but not really doing more than that. Just artificially boosting post count to look super active.
I've heard of Rule of Three?
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Post Post #668 (isolation #48) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:28 am

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In post 666, Vedith wrote:Actually don't worry, half your posts are "this person is town".
Your comment is void.
Shade noted.
And there's a confidence level to the A50 read that is exclusive to him.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #49) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 671, Vedith wrote:
In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:And there's a confidence level to the A50 read that is exclusive to him.
Go on then, sell it.
I consistently note his mind thinks a certain way as town, the post I quoted exhibits that thinking.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #50) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:03 am

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In post 677, Torque wrote:
In post 553, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.
Gamma I don't think you were lazy enough as a player to just look at the existence of a wall and go i guess its town unless you have tmi on ssbf/vedith's alignment?
Well then I'm sorry to disappoint but you're wrong about me

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Post Post #730 (isolation #51) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:05 am

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In post 685, Torque wrote:ya this game has been boring after ali replaced out

Q: Opinions on Toogeloo based on him challenging a rather wide townread slot like spike and jet, I think its rather villagery
Idk I guess I could go with that? Maybe I'll check it out myself.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:09 am

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In post 703, Elena Fisher wrote:
In post 668, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 666, Vedith wrote:Actually don't worry, half your posts are "this person is town".
Your comment is void.
Shade noted.
And there's a confidence level to the A50 read that is exclusive to him.
This isn't really shade when it's more so a fact. Looking at your iso is just...meh. I really would like people to explain the Gamma townreads to me.
In post 677, Torque wrote:
In post 553, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tbh I like SSBF's posting a lot less now. I think I just saw walls with seemingly thought out statements and townbinned it.
Gamma I don't think you were lazy enough as a player to just look at the existence of a wall and go i guess its town unless you have tmi on ssbf/vedith's alignment?
This is a good point that needs requoting.
Eugh kinda gross imo
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Post Post #808 (isolation #53) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:26 am

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In post 738, Pink Ball wrote:Oh wait, the first game I played in this account was a replace in actually. And I was scum there. And I think that doesn't look like my entrance here actually
Don't like this tbh, looks like overjustification (that's probably the wrong word but Idc)
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Post Post #810 (isolation #54) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:29 am

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In post 760, mastina wrote:(And yes I'm defending both Torque and Elena as both are among my strongest townreads.)
Why the need to specify this?
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Post Post #812 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:35 am

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In post 797, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 791, Vedith wrote:
In post 769, Pink Ball wrote:By the way, the votecount is AWFUL, what's up with all the vanity votes? Is scum getting caught with that?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Yeah I'm not a fan of the Gamma voting.
He hasn't done anything that's outside of NAI and he's a lazy push.

What I don't get with you Pink Ball is your Gamma read is gut and Mastina you seem to believe/put across that you have a valid Scum read yet vote Gamma.
That's most likely because Gamma is by far the easier lynch of the 2 and gives you a chance tomorrow to just say, well Mastina just isn't paired with Gamma on a town flip.

Infact I read every read of you're as a safety read.
Why's Morality Scumlean for you?
"He hasn't done anything that's outside of NAI and he's a lazy push"; first statement has nothing to do with my read on him. I've stated that I've read a lot of his games and I got a clean sheet reading him, so my gut read makes me comfortable. Saying it's a lazy push is your opinion, and I don't respect it 'cause I haven't seen much coming from you to value it.

About why Gamma and not mastina: I'm not getting a mastina lynch on D1. You don't lynch mastina on D1. Have you played with mastina before?
Okay my BS sensors went off when you mentioned reading my games. First off why the fuck are you doing that in the first place? Second it reminds me of Thor's push on me in You've Got Mail, and he was scum.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #56) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:37 am

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In post 811, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 808, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 738, Pink Ball wrote:Oh wait, the first game I played in this account was a replace in actually. And I was scum there. And I think that doesn't look like my entrance here actually
Don't like this tbh, looks like overjustification (that's probably the wrong word but Idc)
???? In the post before this I said that this was the first time I replaced in a game, but then remembered it wasn't.
The last part feels like you're trying to put a towny spin on what you're saying.

Btw about lynching Martina D1: y'all want me to post Reck's video? Cos I will.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #57) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:38 am

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In post 815, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 812, Gamma Emerald wrote: Okay my BS sensors went off when you mentioned reading my games. First off why the fuck are you doing that in the first place? Second it reminds me of Thor's push on me in You've Got Mail, and he was scum.
'Cause I'm an alt and I have played with you multiple times.
Why not say that then? :?
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Post Post #820 (isolation #58) » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:54 am

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Saying you read my games means you took extra time to do so
And which games did you read?
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Post Post #876 (isolation #59) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:17 am

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In post 844, Almost50 wrote:
In post 843, Torque wrote:wisdom get off of your fence and scumread me if thats even a real read lmao

when did you even tunnel me btw
This may sound straneg (me answering for Wisdom, that is) but I think we're mind melding. I too was tempted to SR you some. I mean, if I was told (by the mod) there's one (and only one) scum on the Vedith wagon I'd say that'd be you or Clem.

That said, "getting the urge to" or "tempted to" =/= actually SRing you. I still have a reason to TR you (and please don't ask what it is, I'd rather do my own thing for now), so I tried to fir the jigsaw puzzle and came to the conclusion you are more likely town than scum.
Yup this play makes me feel better about my townread.
If Almost50 is scum y'all gonna need long fingers cos of how deep I'm pocketed.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #60) » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:21 am

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In post 860, mastina wrote:
In post 858, Pink Ball wrote:I'm trying as hard as I can to understand but I really don't think I'm the droid you're looking for
The thing is, if you were him your play makes total sense to me. Your treatment of me suddenly makes a whole lot more sense and given the matching playstyle plus the general tone of posts, pop culture knowledge, speech patterns, etc., it all fits as being the one unknown alt of one particular person who I know every other alt of (or so he's told me before).

If you were him, then stances like this:
In post 857, Pink Ball wrote:I didn't say you CAN'T lynch mastina on D1, I'm saying you SHOULDN'T. And in that game I didn't vote for you on D1, not even once, 'cause you would be solved after the worst's flip 'cause your motivations would be revealed after that, and you got lynched after the worst flipped town. So my point still stands: I'm not talking about lynching you on D1 is or isn't possible, I'm saying it's not optimal.
Suddenly make sense, because they match his experience with me perfectly, ESPECIALLY over the last few months.

But if you're not him.

Then the stance remains utter bullshit--there's nothing which makes lynching me later better than lynching me earlier. In fact, having given me the extra day to live let me set that game to lylo, giving us a window into possible victory where there would have been ABSOLUTELY none otherwise. Letting me live to see D2 allowed scum to live to lylo and have a shot at winning it, in a game where lynching me D1 would've immediately condemned my scumbuddy to a D2 lynch.

If you were that scummer, I could understand the extra mastina experience leading to this level of hesitance.

But off of that one game? Absolutely not; your experience from that game should've told you the fucking opposite, to power-lynch me at the first available opportunity.
I feel like this level of clarity from mastina is town
Is that off-base?
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Post Post #902 (isolation #61) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:19 am

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Intend to post some real shit later
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Post Post #904 (isolation #62) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:24 am

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thnx I appreciate it
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Post Post #905 (isolation #63) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:26 am

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huh so I thought I'd skipped pages here but I hadn't. game feels both longer and shorter than it is. So instead of reading stuff I missed like I planned to I'm gonna maybe review some ISOs of less notable people and bat some questions their way.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #64) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:38 am

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In post 870, Drixx wrote:I'm almost 200 posts behind (that's more like it!) and catching up as I can.
would like to see this. Half your ISO is fluff imo.
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Post Post #910 (isolation #65) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:11 am

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@sngleton I check your posts on BNL and you were questioning Wisdom's clarifications, I have seen him do it before and I'm pretty sure it's consistently a town thing, people are welcome to tell me I'm wrong

while I'm on this subject, Wisdom could I make a request to you to help me with my wiki page? I don't like how it looks rn and I think your design is very good and matches my wants for what I want to display.
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Post Post #915 (isolation #66) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:46 am

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Mmm I feel like Morality is town but that'll be pending his return.
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Post Post #943 (isolation #67) » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:26 pm

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In post 935, Torque wrote:I also want to point out Gamma never voted Pink Ball and her vote is on joan of arc which is from a billion years ago
I made a vote that confused the scrubber and by the time I noticed I wanted to vote Pink Ball anyway.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #68) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:47 pm

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In post 944, Drixx wrote:Mastina (if town) would know that the hood could be compromised. I don't think it makes much sense to say any more on that line of thinking atm.

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Post Post #1007 (isolation #69) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 990, Pink Ball wrote:Fuck you're right, I forgot I have powers. I thought I was a VT, I mixed up things
Wdym mixed up things? I'm not in the mood to trust this tbh. How many UPicks have you played on your main? Dw I shouldn't be able to figure you out from that alone.
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #70) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:31 pm

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In post 1009, Pink Ball wrote:And I don't know, like 2 uPicks with my main I think?
Yeah how the fuck do you think you're VT then? If you won't explain what mix-up occured I have to judge you with what I say which looks pretty bad.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #71) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:16 am

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In post 1033, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #72) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:18 am

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Drixx wut are your reads rn?
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #73) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:47 am

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VOTE: Drixx
post reads or die, that's where I'm at with you rn
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Post Post #1081 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:39 am

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half of those "reads" aren't conclusive. Clarify.
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #75) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:41 am

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I have. No excuse for him to give wishy-washy looking garbage.
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #76) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:19 am

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Whatever, but I'm NOT dropping the demand for clearer and less conditional-loaded reads.
VOTE: Pink Ball
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #77) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:34 pm

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In post 1094, Elena Fisher wrote:VOTE: Gamma
This over Drixx or Mastina in my eyes
Mhm, have you explained anything about any of your reads tbh? I haven't seen it. Even compared to the limited experience with this account, your contributions to the game feel weak, at least compared to Owner's Market Blitz.
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #78) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:31 am

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In post 1130, singletonking wrote:Vedith role seems town
Agreed.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #79) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:34 am

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Though I guess his flavor seems like a load of shit
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #80) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:35 am

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Yeah no that solidly turned up the Clannad result from a Google search
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #81) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:00 am

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VOTE: Vedith mkay
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #82) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:55 pm

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I have learned to be useful with what I've got! Fear my power!
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #83) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:17 pm

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Why is Near X Mello scum?
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #84) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:16 am

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In post 1294, Joan of Arc wrote:VOTE: Reasonably Psychotic

Sheep mastina. If I have to force you to do it, I will, but I am not losing another game because you're too stubborn to sheep her. >.>
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #85) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:18 am

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In post 1297, Joan of Arc wrote:And to those that would undoubtedly say 'what if she is wrong?', don't bother. She. Is. Never. Wrong. Unless you have some proof that she is fallible that I don't know off, that's a fact, and the sooner you accept this, the better.
Yeah I'm not letting you be a yesman dipshit just cause you're on an alt. Fucking wake up.
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #86) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 1306, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1303, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1296, Joan of Arc wrote:And so, go ahead, lynch me for daring to suggest that our wincon should be more important than individual pride and stubborness. Throw your reads away. mastina's reads are the only valid ones, as was proven time and time again. And I was there when some people decided to throw a game because they were too stubborn.
She was wrong about me on D1, I know that for a fact. Why should I trust her
Because this

It's my go-to-game as to why she should be trusted.
So because she was right ONE GAME you treat her as a god of scumhunting? No thanks.
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #87) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:08 am

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In post 1321, Joan of Arc wrote:But if you'd rather lose than listen to her, that's fine too., provided you accept that you're at fault instead of trying to shift blame somewhere else.
If she's right I'll take the blame. But if she's wrong? Then YOU get the blame.
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #88) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:10 am

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In post 1323, Joan of Arc wrote:And also admit that you would rather lose the game than lose your stupid pride.
I don't really have pride in my reads. I DO have a certain tolerance level for bullshit which you have surpassed however.
Like, I'm fine with letting mastina do her thing. I'm NOT fine with you spewing vitriol all over trying to force people to accept mastina's reads as the One True Solve.
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #89) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:12 am

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In post 1328, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1326, Toogeloo wrote:mastina is
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So uif she ends up being right, do you (and everyone else who thinks she is wrong) agree to put 'mastina is a scumhunting God' in your signatures once the game is over?
mastina may or may not be wrong.
YOU are 100% wrong.
But sure why the fuck not.
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Post Post #1396 (isolation #90) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:02 am

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In post 1349, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1335, Near x Mello wrote:also stop answering joan, she will never stop or understand so youre just filling the thread with noise

~Near
What is there to understand other than ya'll think your egos are more important than winning the game?
You know what the best way to win this argument is to test it in practice.
@mastina: I am your obedient servant. I vote where you do.
Now to check where that is rn
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #91) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:05 am

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VOTE: Reasonably Psychotic
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Post Post #1399 (isolation #92) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:09 am

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In post 1371, Clemency wrote:what is goin on here
Science, bitch.
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #93) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:11 am

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In post 1376, Joan of Arc wrote:I already decided to stay on the sidelines. If your own infallibility means so much to you that you'd throw the game so you can maintain it, then that's on you, not me.

I tried.....
I don't think this is a town response
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Post Post #1413 (isolation #94) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:49 am

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In post 1402, Almost50 wrote:@Gamma: So you've arguing against mastina being worthy of a sheep, and you say Joan of Arc's response isn't a town response, yet you joined the same wagon they're both pushing?? What gives?
I'm putting them to the test. If RP flips scum I'll continue to go along, if they flip town our contract is ended and I come for Joan next.
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #95) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:53 am

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In post 1331, Near x Mello wrote:Toog, Gamma, what are your thoughts on mastina's and my reads and why arent you voting

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As for this my honest feelings on your reads are I feel like you might be closer in your reads than mastina rn. As for why I didn't vote I just don't seem to vote at the start of the day after Day 1. That's just how I am.
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #96) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:49 pm

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mastina, what do YOU make of Joan's insistence you're "always right"?
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #97) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:03 pm

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In post 1444, Morality wrote:
In post 1442, Near x Mello wrote:yeah scumread on morality increases

he does these crazy stuff as scum.

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What exactly “crazy” stuff have I done this game? I personally feel that I am incredibly tame.

Also, @Gamma - would you say I do crazier stuff as town or scum?
I don't really have a perfect memory of which games you've been in with me rn or what you did in them tbh due to large sample size
Spur my brain along here?
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #98) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:38 pm

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In post 1446, Morality wrote:
In post 1445, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1444, Morality wrote:
In post 1442, Near x Mello wrote:yeah scumread on morality increases

he does these crazy stuff as scum.

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What exactly “crazy” stuff have I done this game? I personally feel that I am incredibly tame.

Also, @Gamma - would you say I do crazier stuff as town or scum?
I don't really have a perfect memory of which games you've been in with me rn or what you did in them tbh due to large sample size
Spur my brain along here?
I was just asking relatively. I don’t personally know the answer to the question, but I’d say I play crazier as town than scum. The mason claim, the fake SK as weak vig, my countless fake watcher claim gambits.

For the most part, they’re all actually obviously gambits, and strictly for the reactions. :lol:
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #99) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:40 pm

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In post 1452, mastina wrote:
In post 1432, Gamma Emerald wrote:mastina, what do YOU make of Joan's insistence you're "always right"?
She's not right, but she's most likely town from it.
Talk about why?
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #100) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:19 pm

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In post 1509, mastina wrote:
In post 1493, Gamma Emerald wrote:Talk about why?
Because Joan firmly believes she can trust me, sheep me, etc. She genuinely thinks that as town, and it is NOT a thought process that would occur to her as scum. She would be AFRAID of me as scum, and wouldn't be trying to sheep me, knowing that I pay close attention to those who sheep me looking for warning signs that they are scum.
In post 1482, Toogeloo wrote:Only scum target me tonight.
No, only scum are afraid to be targeted when claiming the fragile modifier openly.
In post 1499, Toogeloo wrote:Mastina is just lining up my death regardless. If I don't die tonight, I'm going to be death tunneled all day tomorrow by her.
Rightly so! Because you claimed a fucking role that is meant to die N2. And if you don't die N2...why the fuck not.
Okay. I can trust your read on her if you're town.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #101) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:25 pm

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How is that read a chainsaw what the actual fuck
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #102) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:54 pm

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Morality would this be an instance of hatcheting?
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Post Post #1686 (isolation #103) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:27 pm

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In post 1530, Morality wrote:Imma be hokage one day anyways. I don’t care what people say about me. And if you’re willing to fight a loser like me, then I appreciate you!

Hmm, I do indeed like bread. Especially insanely wtf layered such as this.
In post 1531, Morality wrote:
In post 1530, Morality wrote:Imma be hokage one day anyways. I don’t care what people say about me. And if you’re willing to fight a loser like me, then I appreciate you!

Hmm, I do indeed like bread. Especially insanely wtf layered such as this.
I actually prefer Tatoes
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #104) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:49 pm

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In post 1545, Morality wrote:I made my Hokage Naruto reference because I’m a character like that, and I’ll show you when I become Hokage.

That’s not my role, but it’s a solid parallel. I’ve already claimed in my channel. If you still want to push me, this is going to be an extremely over the top game. My channel and I have already pretty much nearly full claimed to each other. I can protect my channel and take out scum in the process.

I’m not going to say how, but I will take out a scum alongside me when my demise eventually comes.
This is town.
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #105) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:55 pm

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In post 1605, Clemency wrote:i'd actually be alright with a near x mello lynch today
i don't see town wisdom being this meticulous towards someone directly challenging them
in that vein, i don't like how he's pushing morality's scumread on him off and subverting to players irrelevant to the moment at hand
Tbh I'm mildly curious about the exact reasoning for Wisdom having such a confident TR on me. He's generally good at reading me but I feel like maybe some doubt should have existed before?
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #106) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:56 pm

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In post 1610, mastina wrote:
In post 1544, Morality wrote:It is very much by design, Mastina.

I will become obv town eventually, but nice to see you can fall into scum’s trap so easily.

I have a Loud role that will help confirm me later in the game.
Uh huh.

Repeat after me.

Role != alignment.

Being Loud means nothing.
Really? So why did you say being Loud was meant to help confirm me in the postgame of Elbirn's normal?
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #107) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:04 pm

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In post 1670, mastina wrote:
In post 1656, Morality wrote:I don’t think I’m playing like ScumMastina at all right now or that i’m Very planned out. I was doing stuff, but I didn’t have plan.
Also, to address this: similar != identical to. I've already begun to outline (if not in here then in the neighborhood if nowhere else) where our scumgames diverge from one another; there's critical points they DO overlap in, but they also diverge at specific key points.

And I am trying to outline not only where they are similar but also where they are different and what this means overall.

You have already shown you were very planned out, and by your own confession, doing stuff = scum from you whereas trying stuff = town from you.

The difference between the two is that trying things = throwing shit onto the wall to see what sticks. A common, but apt, metaphor; you try multiple things, from multiple angles, to see whatever might hold merit. That is your townplay; that has been utterly absent this entire game.

Doing things = maneuvering, more or less. Setting up a plan. Doing things is setting the groundwork for future moves. And what was this, pray tell, if not exactly that?
In post 1556, Morality wrote:The thing is, I literally have a role that can secure townies from living, take out scum in the process (starting night 2 anyways), and I have a Loud modifier, which eventually can be confirmed.

Mastina and Wisdom are two players who know mechanically what’s the correct play, and Mastina is going on a personal tone level without thinking, so their logic is incredibly flawed, and I’ve been baiting Wisdom for pages now.
In post 1571, Morality wrote:I’m confirmable through my Loud role as time goes on.

I’m okay with that not to be trusted, but I am not today’s lynch. You best be looking for who else you find scummy to try and mislynch.
In post 1545, Morality wrote:I made my Hokage Naruto reference because I’m a character like that, and I’ll show you when I become Hokage.

That’s not my role, but it’s a solid parallel. I’ve already claimed in my channel. If you still want to push me, this is going to be an extremely over the top game. My channel and I have already pretty much nearly full claimed to each other. I can protect my channel and take out scum in the process.

I’m not going to say how, but I will take out a scum alongside me when my demise eventually comes.
You set up your claim with the Hokage/Naruto reference. You claimed in your channel. You have the protection of your channel. You have set up a long-term plan. Manipulative. The hallmark of your scumgame.
Nah, I think you're wrong. Let's whip out some Tropes for this one. So the agreed way Boon plays as scum is that of the Manipulative Bastard, right? Well as town he's closer to Magnificent Bastard. I get the sense he's playing closer to the latter here. Especially with his crumb.
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #108) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:08 pm

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But how confident was it when you first had it?
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Post Post #1694 (isolation #109) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:32 am

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Still think it's a little questionable then
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #110) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:33 am

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In post 1695, Near x Mello wrote:idk what youre trying to say

You started with "Near is townreading me confidently with zero doubt"
I told you thats wrong
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it feels like shading.

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That's not exactly what I said, I said you seemed too confident. There's a difference.
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #111) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:54 am

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I didn't say you had 0 doubt though
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Post Post #1703 (isolation #112) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:05 am

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Well I expressed myself poorly then, I meant more doubt should have existed.
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #113) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:41 pm

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In post 1721, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1720, Near x Mello wrote:im not trying to lynch him but ill let that aside

why is he not fakeclaiming that role? why should i automatically believe him? do you think morality is not good enough scum to play like he has played?

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First off, each time I asked that exact same question, people flipped me off, so why shouldn't I do the same to you?

Second of all, here
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Oh, and this is the reason I usually make fluff posts, because every time I try to play seriously, people shut me out.
Feeling like Joan is town.
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #114) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:13 am

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In post 1751, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1748, Near x Mello wrote:easy examples off the top of my head; me pushing jake in symphonic metal and nero in your game

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Well, I modded one of these games and the other had happened before I wisened up, so both examples are invalid.
what the hell does modding have to do with it
You were still reading it right? Oh wait you were afk for a lot of it carry on lmfao
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #115) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:14 am

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In post 1766, Almost50 wrote:I think I want to pull a N_M in this game. I'll just pop-up to lol!hammer someone :P
try it if you want lol
I think you're town enough to not care
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #116) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:25 pm

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In post 1823, Torque wrote:
In post 1821, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
In post 1808, Torque wrote:Mastina has a post in the hood that no scum will take the effort to fake. I don't think I need to say this but still
Mastina is town, but whatever that post is *is not* evidence of that.

I don't know your experience with Mastina, but she WILL put in whatever effort is required to accomplish her goals. Literally the only restriction on the effort she's willing to expend is the TIME her RL allows her to spend.

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Rather than scum won't put in the effort to fake it, more like, scum won't think of doing what she did there. It's just something you won't say you did unless you actually did it.
Why do you say this? One of my biggest concerns when finding crazy ways things could go wrong is "have scum figured this out?" So you saying scum wouldn't consider something piqued my interest.
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Post Post #1853 (isolation #117) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:29 pm

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In post 1849, Morality wrote:I didn’t expect scum to just out themselves the way Chito just did.

The entirety of their post is fluff, and has zero actual content.

And the 2 posts they quoted are my Light Yagami role playing, and there is no actual content.

That’s scum making apolitical post.
How was the second post quoted roleplaying
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Post Post #1973 (isolation #118) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:52 pm

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In post 1862, Morality wrote:viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78330&user_select%5B%5D=32341

Here’s Weiss as town. Completely posts thoughts, stances.

If Chito is Weiss, they just scum claimed hard. That was too much political, and I didn’t see absolutely any of that in the last game.
Oh boy time to save the day. I actually asked for a PT for just myself so I could keep track of the more confusing hydrae's heads and one of the ones I've logged so far is C&Y. So I can check this.
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #119) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:54 pm

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Chito is Weiss
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #120) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:18 am

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I like Near's case on Robert rn
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #121) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:07 am

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Who are your suspects single?
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #122) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:19 am

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In post 2057, Spike and Jet wrote:ascetic ^5
we're already ascetic though
so we're better
Wot
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Post Post #2070 (isolation #123) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:12 am

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In post 2061, Almost50 wrote:I need advise and I don't even know whom to trust. :lol:

OK.. here's the think... my N1/N2 "grey text" are both useless garbage. As I said I won't be able to post in the main thread tomorrow (D3) for the opening 7 days (and if there's a guilty I think the day ends before I am allowed to vote, but will check with the mod is voting counts as "posting" if I'm still alive tomorrow)

Now the 3rd grey text area is mysterious and the mod won't give me more info. Suffice it to say I may or may not gain a new ability, and if I do I don't know what it is (thus can't evaluate if it's "as good" as my other two.) :lol:

I believe you all have the option to request a new role PM
before the end of D3
as I do. However, most of you probably KNOW what your abilities are and what they're for, so should be relatively easy for you to decide. I DON'T!!

Now how am I supposed to decide whether I want a new role when I don't even know what my CURRENT role does or will have? So this is where I need your advice. It's a gamble either way, and a blind one.. (feels like betting red or black in roulette. with 0/00 being BOTH are useless) :lol:

So, red or black??
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #124) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:24 am

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holy fucking gross
just because I miscommunicate info I'm no longer town?
VOTE: Almost50, let's fucking jam my dude
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #125) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:37 am

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Actually it is there. So it seems the one with explaining to do is Near.
As for why I mixed it up, I went with what I'd remembered from the OP in the sign-ups. I obviously remembered it wrong.
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Post Post #2083 (isolation #126) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:38 am

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or not cos they also mentioned it
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #127) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:42 am

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Honestly I haven't really had cohesive reads, I've just been staying in the moment thinking that I'd get them eventually
I don't really have anyone I townread rn, it's mostly scumreads
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #128) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:58 am

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In post 2088, Almost50 wrote:Ah, I've just checked Vedith's role PM and it is in his too, so scum do have it.
So what do you think now?
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #129) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:22 am

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lol whatever VOTE: Robert
In post 2091, Near x Mello wrote:this is the second time you ignore me

VOTE: gamma

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Okay, my apologies but I'm watching a VOD in the meantime and I'm trying to not miss awesome moments
As for my reads I suspect Robert as stated, I also am kinda waffling on Morality/flavor
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #130) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:35 am

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As I said I haven't really tried to get reads as I'd assumed I'd get them eventually just by staying current
I think the issue is no one is really challenging anything beyond the consistent "I think you're wrong"
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Post Post #2103 (isolation #131) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:43 pm

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How has he dug his own grave
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #132) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:11 am

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FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello
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Post Post #2378 (isolation #133) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:28 pm

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In post 2181, Gamma Emerald wrote:FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello
Btw now that it's over I'd like to elaborate that my suspicions about Near's townread on me came from thinking my play here was somewhat similar to no deadlines mafia where Wisdom suspected me for good reason
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Post Post #2379 (isolation #134) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:29 pm

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In post 2184, Near x Mello wrote:i dont even remember it so clearly it was not a strong push on robert
This isn't wrong
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Post Post #2385 (isolation #135) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:37 pm

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In post 2380, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:
Ankamius replaces Clemency!

Also, after discussing with the co-mods,
MOD DECISION: Flavor Leaf is being force-replaced
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PLEASE DO NOT ABUSE THE GAME STATE. Telling the mod (and players) to have yourself replaced out and then cancel out, FOR SEVERAL TIMES, is considered abusing the game state.

Finding replacement for Flavor Leaf...
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Post Post #2386 (isolation #136) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:37 pm

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I kinda wanna just vote FL now
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Post Post #2388 (isolation #137) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:41 pm

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In post 2188, Torque wrote:Well I mean, yeah

I don't think Gamma's the type of player to make very strong pushes as either alignment

@Near It certainly is sheeping
But I was saying a wolf won't add fuel to the wagon of teammate

Well now she's voting you, pretend I never said that thing with Gamma and Robert lmao
Depends on the game but rn I'm not in a condition to make strong pushes. I think this is your second assumption about my meta which tells me any meta you present on me can be swiftly disregarded.
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Post Post #2391 (isolation #138) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 2193, Chito and Yuuri wrote:
In post 2181, Gamma Emerald wrote:FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello
Chito: Can you summarize that case in your own words. Because I barely read it, I didn't particularly like the parts I did read, and I seriously get no indication here that you read it other than "this looks like a fight I can sheep one side on because a lot of things have been said". I think your reaction to FL's case is fake, which to me suggests you are more likely to be scum.

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After I catch up possibly.
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Post Post #2393 (isolation #139) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:45 pm

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In post 2202, Chito and Yuuri wrote:Chito: Why do you both want to ignore that Gamma literally just scumclaimed by saying Flavor Leaf's case was "damn good" when she has not read any post over two paragraphs this entire game?
Yeah that's a fucking lie
I have read every post this game. That's why I thought I could get reads by staying in the moment, because I wasn't missing anything.
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Post Post #2396 (isolation #140) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:49 pm

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In post 2232, mastina wrote:
In post 2069, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 2056, Flavor Leaf wrote:Fair warning, I won’t be able to be investigated after tonight, so anyone thinking about potentially doing that towards me should do it tonight. My Night 3 will make me essentially Ascetic.
Uh... Same here.

I mean, people's deadline to target me with anything was night 1 without repercussions. Bad things happen tonight and then Night 3 on I am Ascetic.

I thought it was kind of weird to be ascetic with passive abilities.
Right so we have three ascetic claims.

Now, who wants to be bold enough to call them all town?
Would love to hear someone say that with an absolutely straight face, dead serious.
Why MUST one be scum? Role =/= alignment in your words, and there've been game(s) with multiple ascetics before.
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Post Post #2399 (isolation #141) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:53 pm

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In post 2247, Torque wrote:
In post 2244, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2237, Torque wrote:@FL Sigh whatever. I won't touch you or Clem today. My patience hasn't been high because I'm in every position to just sheep Mastina and take the easy way to play and even told her I'd do it but I'm never really all that convinced.

Telling you how I'm playing totally defeats the purpose. Sorry. But I have plans with you if Near and Mello flip scum today. Which... I don't actually hate going in that direction. Although you don't think Gamma sheeping your case on Near but recently sheeped Near's case on Robert is awfully scummy? Like, what does that make Robert in her pov? Does she talk about that?
Gamma’s one of the players I’m closest with on site. She’s even the first player to mod a game in my BooneyToonz series that isn’t me. We’ve won town games together. If I town read Gamma and Gamma made solid points, and I wasn’t sure where to go, I’d Sheep Gamma definitely, and I feel we’re in that position, but reverse.

I feel like Mastina wants to lynch me as like an achievement, if that makes sense. As does Wisdom, but Wisdom’s achievement is he wants to beat me in a 1v1 when he’s scum.
That doesn't say anything why Gamma can't be a wolf doing the same thing or using that to get a chance to jump off Robert or whatever ._.
This post is very reasonable tbh
Honestly Torque has been very consistent this game so I'm fine calling Torque my first truly confident townread outside of any interactions with others
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Post Post #2400 (isolation #142) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 2250, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2247, Torque wrote:
In post 2244, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2237, Torque wrote:@FL Sigh whatever. I won't touch you or Clem today. My patience hasn't been high because I'm in every position to just sheep Mastina and take the easy way to play and even told her I'd do it but I'm never really all that convinced.

Telling you how I'm playing totally defeats the purpose. Sorry. But I have plans with you if Near and Mello flip scum today. Which... I don't actually hate going in that direction. Although you don't think Gamma sheeping your case on Near but recently sheeped Near's case on Robert is awfully scummy? Like, what does that make Robert in her pov? Does she talk about that?
Gamma’s one of the players I’m closest with on site. She’s even the first player to mod a game in my BooneyToonz series that isn’t me. We’ve won town games together. If I town read Gamma and Gamma made solid points, and I wasn’t sure where to go, I’d Sheep Gamma definitely, and I feel we’re in that position, but reverse.

I feel like Mastina wants to lynch me as like an achievement, if that makes sense. As does Wisdom, but Wisdom’s achievement is he wants to beat me in a 1v1 when he’s scum.
That doesn't say anything why Gamma can't be a wolf doing the same thing or using that to get a chance to jump off Robert or whatever ._.
You’re right. I don’t have a town case for Gamma other than I don’t think she’s scum, but I generally feel like I can soul read Gamma, and the fact I don’t scum read her makes me feel she’s just town.

I’m not scum reading you for pushing there, and continue pushing there and I’ll try to explain more when I can put it into words.

I feel like everything said against her is NAI, and I understand that it comes off as scummy when she just sheeps, but she DOES do that as town too. It’s just a personality thing. She was reacting heavily to stuff earlier, I feel she just lost cohesiveness in this game.
Tbh I think the lack of doubt here makes FL more likely scum and for separate logic to my Wisdom suspicions. Pretty much every time me + FL are Town/Town he waffles on me at least once. So this type of confidence is a bad sign from him.
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #143) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:07 pm

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In post 2270, mastina wrote:
In post 2239, Chito and Yuuri wrote:
In post 2181, Gamma Emerald wrote:FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello
Chito: FL has made his point; he doesn't think this post is scummy. That's fine.

I would like other people's reads of Gamma, though, particularly Spike and Jet, A50, mastina, and Pink Ball, and I'd like to know whether they buy this as a town!Gamma vote.
I'd like to formally announce that Dunnstral is kicked out of the poe pool and that Gamma's back in …
…As around RP levels of chance of being scum.
As in, don't think that she is, now, but she's a backup candidate who COULD be.
This looks organic tbh
Yeah at this point looking over this divide carefully I think I am preferring the anti-FL side
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #144) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:08 pm

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In post 2280, Clemency wrote:gamma's 200% null for me atm i've never been able to read the guy
This feels like bullshit
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #145) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:11 pm

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In post 2307, Clemency wrote:i should make an alt so people take me seriously
It worked for Korina so...
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Post Post #2409 (isolation #146) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:12 pm

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In post 2312, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m just gonna leave. I don’t feel like playing anymore tbh.

I’m town.
In post 2313, Flavor Leaf wrote:Clemency was my only saving grace here.
In post 2315, Flavor Leaf wrote:I just don’t feel like putting the effort in anymore.

And people, like Mastina, are just gonna say it’s me “tactical replacement” but that’s only if I am scum, and I’m not.

I respect my scum game too much to do that.
I don’t think I’ve ever replaced out as scum before come to think about it.
This is exactly what I anticipated

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Post Post #2414 (isolation #147) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:16 pm

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In post 2395, Near x Mello wrote:gamma youve played with me enough.
saying fl's points on me were solid is not acceptable.

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Post Post #2418 (isolation #148) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:30 pm

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Thanks. I agree that me flipping perspectives like that was bad but it just goes to show I'm not focused on the game at all
Fyi that response might be a while as I am trying to fix a formatting error that breaks the site
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #149) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 2463, Elena Fisher wrote:As someone who has played with scum mort. The action he's doing can easily be from town or scum him. It's the way that he reacted that you should be reading into. Mort is confident in his skills period.
Who the fuck is Mort
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #150) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:05 am

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In post 2499, Ankamius wrote:I feel like the game is less solved than everybody thinks it is.
I have been feeling this since like 5 pages into d2
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Post Post #2515 (isolation #151) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:42 am

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I think Channel 1 is the so called masonry
Toog is in Channel 5 iirc
I'm in Channel 3 along with some others
those are the only claimed ones I think
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Post Post #2517 (isolation #152) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:48 am

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Channel 3 is Alisae + me + S&J + I think SSBF was there?
I haven't looked at it in a fair amount of time
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Post Post #2520 (isolation #153) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:53 am

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My channel was outed d1
I remember being upset about it
btw it's robert who's in channel 3, not ssbf (which means Ankamius that's you)
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Post Post #2523 (isolation #154) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:57 am

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oh nvm I thought ank replaced robert, but it was ooba
blaaargh I need to wake the fuck up in this game
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #155) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:59 am

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@Xtoxm how much has Creature been posting in the main thread recently, as well as communing with you? within the past 2-3 days is a good timeframe.
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #156) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:21 am

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wanna know a wild guess about the setup I have? It's very low on the scale of Gamma's Potato Theories And Extrapolation, like a mild taco sauce.
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Post Post #2541 (isolation #157) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:45 am

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In post 2536, Near x Mello wrote:Gamma are S&J posting in ch3?

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yeah Creature just posted
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Post Post #2542 (isolation #158) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:46 am

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I like the direction of the game rn
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #159) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:29 am

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basically ssbf slipped fl scum
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Post Post #2557 (isolation #160) » Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:33 am

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ok lol
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Post Post #2794 (isolation #161) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:38 am

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In post 2572, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2569, Near x Mello wrote:why did he assume fl is in exactly one more channel?
Maybe because he (SSBM) was in just 2 channels himself, so assumed everybody else is.
He was in the scumteam. Unless EVERY scum had 2 channels that is not a reasonable conclusion.
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Post Post #2797 (isolation #162) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:40 am

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In post 2580, Ankamius wrote:This slip thing is weaksauce
Hehehe all according to keikaku
You see now upon FL's scum flip we can look at those who bash the read based on the not-scumslip, like S&J.
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Post Post #2803 (isolation #163) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:43 am

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In post 2599, Chito and Yuuri wrote:
In post 2418, Gamma Emerald wrote:Thanks. I agree that me flipping perspectives like that was bad but it just goes to show I'm not focused on the game at all
Fyi that response might be a while as I am trying to fix a formatting error that breaks the site
Chito: I mean, what I want is an explanation of what you liked about FL's case. If multiquoting is going to break things, then maybe just summarize in your own words (like I originally asked)?
Sorry it's almost done I just saved the draft to finish later and promptly moved on like I'd finished it
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Post Post #2812 (isolation #164) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:49 am

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In post 2633, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 2632, Near x Mello wrote:creature why you only post in ch3

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Logging into the hydra account sucks.

I love the thought of personificating something new, but damn, switching accounts is complicated.

I have a solution for that that would probably require lot of programming though.
This response is pretty hokey btw. He has only posted on his main in the channel afaict.
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #165) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:57 am

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In post 2681, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 2647, Near x Mello wrote:
In post 2644, Spike and Jet wrote:I can't find it in this account.
You can just check your role pm

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Only Channel 3.

Thought I would get access to more channels as game progressed, but meh.
Someone didn't read the rules...
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Post Post #2829 (isolation #166) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:01 am

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In post 2707, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 2703, Chito and Yuuri wrote:So what do you guys (Spike and Jet) think about Gamma's vote here?
In post 2181, Gamma Emerald wrote:FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello
i mean
i dont find that vote particularly alarming in itself
her recent posting has been a bit underwhelming
there are other things i liked that i still town lean there for, such as joining the robert wagon
Tl;dr: I liked when they voted with me
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Post Post #2833 (isolation #167) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 2715, Severa wrote:Ahahahahahahahahahaha.

BORING.
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Post Post #2836 (isolation #168) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:06 am

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In post 2732, Severa wrote:I'm going to lose that 1v1 today but they are scum 100% of the time.
Maybe you won't lose. I'm already suspecting S&J here for what they've recently been blowing out of their hole.
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Post Post #2847 (isolation #169) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 2806, Spike and Jet wrote:lmao my favorite part of being pushed as town is that I can throw a tantrum and be right about it
Yeah these posts don't feel genuine at all
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Post Post #2854 (isolation #170) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 2850, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 2847, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2806, Spike and Jet wrote:lmao my favorite part of being pushed as town is that I can throw a tantrum and be right about it
Yeah these posts don't feel genuine at all
VOTE: Spike & Jet
Your progression to vote me reminds me of scum!me.
Orly
Because I think my progression has been damn clear here
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Post Post #2860 (isolation #171) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:25 am

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In post 2856, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 2854, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2850, Spike and Jet wrote:
In post 2847, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2806, Spike and Jet wrote:lmao my favorite part of being pushed as town is that I can throw a tantrum and be right about it
Yeah these posts don't feel genuine at all
vote]Spike & Jet[/vote]
Your progression to vote me reminds me of scum!me.
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Because I think my progression has been damn clear here
That's why. Progressions like "huh i dunno about x" "yeh, i could see x" "i can see x being scum now" is scum typical.
That's not how I progressed at all
I disliked your switching off of FL for Ooba
Then it became a scumread on you independently
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Post Post #2896 (isolation #172) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:15 am

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My thoughts on the NxM case
In post 2187, Flavor Leaf wrote:The Near case so it doesn’t get lost in the pages

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In post 2152, Flavor Leaf wrote:Votecount 1.15
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(91), Chito and Yuuri(79), Clemency(52), mastina(73), Joan of Arc(32)

Votecount 1.16
Vedith(9) L-1 ~ Chito and Yuuri(83), mastina(78), Joan of Arc(32), Drixx(22), Gamma Emerald(82), Torque(81), Spike and Jet(127), Near x Mello(97), Almost50(58)

Here’s the Vedith wagon. It started picking up steam, then Vedith claims and real quickly Near changes his vote to Mastina. Counterclaimed, and Near has to move back to get the bus cred.

The fact that this was counterclaimed tells me that scum is on this wagon. I think I want to say Chito’s town from this because he was on Vedith for a long time and stayed strong onto it, plus I doubt it’s them and Near.

Mastina is probably town, but could be coasting scum, i don’t really care to get into that right now. Drixx is flipped town. Joan is one of the homies. I’ll explain why i believe Gamma to be town when I pull up another vote count. And A50 is suiciding if he’s scum.

That leaves Near, SnJ, and Torque. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple scum on this wagon, and my bets would be Near and Torque if that were the case. Near relieves pressure from scummate Vedith then they got counterclaimed.

I have some more Vote stuff I’m gonna pull up for Gamma and Torque.
I figured the placements made sense for what Flavor was saying here
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In post 2153, Flavor Leaf wrote:1.15
Drixx(2) ~ singletonking(48), Torque(67)

This is who is voting Drixx prior to claims. Torque then move some over onto Vedith once Drixx claims even though they were voting there, which is why I’m starting to feel ScumTorque is very possible.



1.16
Gamma Emerald(3)~ Elena Fisher(22), Pink Ball, Clemency

This was the largest wagon besides Vedith at the end of the day. I know there was a Pink ball wagon prior, but that dissipated, so I think this is more telling. Clemency is basically conf town in my eyes already, and Pink Ball and I got into some discussion where they basically metaphorically slapped me because I was getting paranoid on the slot, mixed in with the Vedith countering wagon, Pink Ball is town. Elena being on the Gamma wagon splits scum, which we all know scum like to do, which directly coincides with the Elena/Near scum team I’ve been stating.

Near bused Vedith but backed off once pressure got involved. Near was pushing Elena/Robert/Me as scum, pushed Robert and myself, but Elena wagon gained a little steam and backed off.
I was already FoSing Elena a little because she's felt off to me and I felt the scum vote split thing made sense.
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In post 2156, Flavor Leaf wrote:Votecount 1.11
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(73), Chito and Yuuri(70), Torque(60), Clemency(43), Spike and Jet(115)
Pink Ball(5) ~ Gamma Emerald(66), Joan of Arc(29), Robert2424(15), Almost50(44), Vedith(41)

These were the countering wagons prior. This actually makes me believe that Torque isn’t scum, and after thinking about it, there easily could be another scum on the Pink ball wagon here in the form of Robert.

Still. Near’s bussing on the Vedith wagon and bussing/backing off of Elena now. I don’t think Robert flips red either.

This one opens my eyes a bit more that i’m Probably wrong on a town read somewhere, but it doesn’t change the fact that Near is scum.
This post felt organic to me.
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In post 2154, Spike and Jet wrote:think my interactions with vedith are pretty obviously not s/s to anyone who bothers to look closely at them
Yeah, I only put you on that list because of technicalities. I don’t think you’re scum, as you can tell.

Also, Near’s trying to coerce you into mislynching me. The only thing he can do to defend himself is to act like none of this affects anything. He’s trying to push his Elena scum read
This doesn't really affect anything
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In post 2158, Near x Mello wrote:Votecount 1.11
Vedith
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Near x Mello
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i can also paint pictures

~Near
But for you, there’s no soul in it! All you are trying to do is discredit discredit discredit, when in actuality, even if my analysis is wrong, it isn’t poor analysis. Any deeper thinking and bringing up acts of the past are beneficial.

This is you actively trying to keep town from organizing.
Agree that NxM posting that was just discrediting.
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In post 2160, Flavor Leaf wrote:viewtopic.php?p=10623037#p10623037

Here’s the last game I did VCA with if anyone wants to check playstyle and whatnot.

It was later in game, so i had much more to go off of, but yeah
In post 2164, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2161, Near x Mello wrote:your analysis is poor and crystal clear manipulative because you begin with the hypothesis im scum

~Near
It’s not that I began with that hypothesis, I have been actively finding reasons to believe that you are scum this game, and you haven’t attempted at all this game to rectify that read.

It’s not on me to analyze you “better” when you don’t give any sort of actual posting to analyze in the sense. I have been looking for scum elsewhere, I had even considered the fact that i was wrong on you multiple times, but you don’t give any actual reasons for anything, you constantly discredit and misrep, and nobody in this game should feel bad if they don’t town read you because you don’t give them anything. You are actively avoiding giving any sense of read on you, which is more than likely because you are scum.

Is there a part of me that feels that you could be green? Yes. It’s Not very high, though, because you are actively avoiding actually playing and just constantly tunnel in almost an entirely political fashion.

You wait for momentum to be pulled, and you help use the centripetal force of the natural flow and momentum in this game to move it where you would like to move it.

This has happened time after time this game, with the Vedith claim, you helping relieve the pressure, but then it got bounced right back.

You waited for Mastina to case me so you could use the momentum to join on me. The momentum was siding with me, so you backed off of it.

This is your scum game. You aren’t playing to find scum, youre swinging the momentum around to have the group mindset collectively mislynch so you don’t have to take the fall for it, and playing it in a way where if someone is mislynched, it’s their own fault.
This made sense but there's the possibility FL is doing what I do as scum, which is take a scenario that looks possibly scummy and work to make it look as bad for the target as possible.
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In post 2165, Flavor Leaf wrote:you know the best reason for everyone here to see that I am the town win this situation?

ScumWisdom has to get rid of TownFL because I’m tunneling. If I am night killed, I will do damage to the scum team, and Clemency can become confirmed town.

ScumFL doesn’t need to push Wisdom here. I night kill threats and people that push me. Take a look at OK2. I literally spent 2 nights making sure Wisdom dies.

Drixx was also in my channel.

Wisdom says that scumFL just needs to kill Wisdom then that guarantees the game for me, right?

Then why was I actively letting Wisdom go for a bit? I was going over the possibility that he was town, and I talked about this in my channel that I just really didn’t want to be wrong on Wisdom.

I even decided to vote Elena, someone that Wisdom has stated was scum. I was going along with him to try and make sure my read was as accurate as it could possibly be.

He isn’t trying to read me, he’s trying to mislynch me. I have actively been trying to read him, and I discuss with him.


I respond to every single thing he comes after me for and when he tries to discredit me.

I clear everything up.

TownWisdom does not scum read me here after doing all of these things.

He just doesn’t.
This makes sense and I can vouch about the "who needs to nightkill whom" logic.
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Post Post #2902 (isolation #173) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:40 am

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That's possible but if so that's just another nail in his coffin for me, not the straw that broke the camel's back
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Post Post #3047 (isolation #174) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 2956, Near x Mello wrote:the most recent game of you with xtoxm i could find was in 2016 and you replaced in in that one too

maybe he dislikes you and hes been avoiding you?

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Post Post #3049 (isolation #175) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:30 pm

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In post 2979, Near x Mello wrote:that would explain the replace out too actually

maybe he didnt appreciate rc powerbussing him to save himself

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Wouldn't be the first time RC did something like that
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Post Post #3055 (isolation #176) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:35 pm

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In post 3023, Near x Mello wrote:Its bad for the scumteam
but you obv think youre the best scum ever and dont need any buddies, so
Yeah NxM is in the "backpedaling and making shit up" phase
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Post Post #3057 (isolation #177) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:37 pm

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In post 3033, Severa wrote:no rly

pls find a situation

where i out of nowhere bussed someone and they reacted like this

i'm waiting
Uh lynch the wolves, MathBlade?
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Post Post #3058 (isolation #178) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:38 pm

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In post 3056, Severa wrote:i mean

i do think im the best scum ever and dont need any buddies
Also why are you talking me out of thinking NxM is scum
As an explanation though, NxM isn't countering anything, just backing up and continuing to find new angles to strike from.
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Post Post #3067 (isolation #179) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:44 pm

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In post 3063, singletonking wrote:Gamma what are your reads on Severa/NxM/S&J/ooba
Town/Scum/Scum/Town
What's the point of this?
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Post Post #3070 (isolation #180) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:46 pm

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In post 3065, Near x Mello wrote:
In post 3058, Gamma Emerald wrote:NxM isn't countering anything, just backing up and continuing to find new angles to strike from.
wtf
this is why i dont want to ever case or attack scum
I try my fucking best to show you rc is scum by literally countering his bs and showing its nonsense and you come and say i am not countering
Fuck this
In that stretch of posts
at the very least
, you were not actually countering their points. All you were doing was finding the next question to ask that you thought could break their push.
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Post Post #3093 (isolation #181) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:04 pm

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Post Post #3296 (isolation #182) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:10 pm

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In post 3150, SuperfluousNinja wrote:I think you mean with 11 votes, it takes 6 to lynch, unless we are lynching Mastina in which case it takes 7 votes? If I understand the rules correctly?

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Yeah. Also DAMN.
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #183) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:11 pm

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In post 3153, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:I was targeted by something last night. Also, I targeted Gamma Emerald with an ability with an unknown, but likely negative, effect; the effect hinted at being worse if Gamma fit certain characteristics, which I'm not going to share, but I believed it could be fatal if they fit those characteristica.

With regards to the kills, I don't actually have any idea which one(s) would have been scum. Severa was likely getting lynched today, and there are two miller claims, and toog let everyone know they died if breathed upon...so yeah. I guess ank was largely townread and active, so most likely scum kill? Thoughts?

@mastina: reevaluate?

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Post Post #3299 (isolation #184) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:13 pm

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@Mod I can't read the full role flips on mobile.
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Post Post #3300 (isolation #185) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:14 pm

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In post 3161, Torque wrote:
sn wrote:Finally, anime is just an excuse for adults to keep watching cartoons
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Yeah uh why are you voting there then?
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Post Post #3301 (isolation #186) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:15 pm

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In post 3168, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 3153, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:I was targeted by something last night. Also, I targeted Gamma Emerald with an ability with an unknown, but likely negative, effect; the effect hinted at being worse if Gamma fit certain characteristics, which I'm not going to share, but I believed it could be fatal if they fit those characteristica.

With regards to the kills, I don't actually have any idea which one(s) would have been scum. Severa was likely getting lynched today, and there are two miller claims, and toog let everyone know they died if breathed upon...so yeah. I guess ank was largely townread and active, so most likely scum kill? Thoughts?

@mastina: reevaluate?

-Yukiteru
I don’t know the context of Toog telling everyone this, but if it’s true then it must stand to reason that scum targeted him N2 to get an easy kill. It’s odd because this feels so obvious that I would have heavily suspected him to be scum for trying to say “if you target me, you’ll die!” If anything, my conclusion here would be that any actions happening to townies are more likely to be from town than from scum since a non-killing scum action was likely consumed in an effort to kill Toog.
That's not what Toog claimed, AT ALL.
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Post Post #3302 (isolation #187) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:15 pm

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Like SN is getting so much shit wrong here
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Post Post #3304 (isolation #188) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:20 pm

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In post 3183, Near x Mello wrote:i dont give reasons and you know it

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Weren't you being helpful and giving reasons earlier, and stk called you out about that?
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Post Post #3306 (isolation #189) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:24 pm

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In post 3195, Near x Mello wrote:also spike & jet are also flipped and town

so far youve been 0/3

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Do you think the constant lack of information on SN's part makes them town? I noticed they're not in your scumreads rn.
In fact your scumpool looks remarkably different than from yesterday, explain.
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Post Post #3309 (isolation #190) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:32 pm

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In post 3228, mastina wrote:
In post 3196, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:It *IS* a pretty grievous failing on the part of everyone, including myself, to not conclude that Toog made more sense as town than scum because their action guaranteed their lynch on D3 if scum.
Yeah no.
Toogeloo regardless of alignment was going to claim he was going to die N2 if targeted.

With him having a role that died N2 if targeted.
As scum.
He would need to tell people this fact.

He would need to tell people this fact, because if he didn't want to die, he needed this information to be public. Because the chances he'd be targeted N2 were quite high.

Toogeloo fakeclaimed as town, possible but punishable by lynch.
Toogeloo fakeclaimed as scum, possible but punishable by lynch.
Toogeloo realclaimed as town, what happened, and deserving of being tested.
Toogeloo realclaimed as scum, possible, and deserving of being tested.

Those were the only four options.
Option #2 was less likely, sure.
But option #4 wasn't. Don't pretend it was just because Toogeloo did in fact flip town.
There's no universe where a scum Toogeloo WOULDN'T claim that role when possessing it.
So don't pretend there was.
This makes a lot of sense. It seems most people get something crucial N2, so that would have been a night you'd be likely targeted by something.
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #191) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:33 pm

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In post 3307, Near x Mello wrote:yes sn posts and the fact both mastina and rp are pushing them for shit reasons have made rp a townread

My reads are the same as yesterday + mastina

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Post Post #3312 (isolation #192) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:39 pm

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In post 3240, mastina wrote:
In post 3222, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:I was noting what NxM is, that part of your PoE pool has been established as town, and asking if you were going to reevaluate said pool/what changes you were making.
The POE pool was always comprised of more players than there were going to be scum.

That guaranteed that there were town within the poe pool.

It's a given that players being town within the poe pool, then, wouldn't, in of itself, cause me to reevaluate the pool.

However, in tandem with the players who died, having died--I owe it to them to do so.

But that'll take time I don't have right now.

SuperfluousNinja stays in the poe pool regardless; I can tell you that now. Severa's townread there was dependent on Spike and Jet being scum; they were not. Ankamius prior to sheeping Severa supported the lynch on SuperfluousNinja, as far as I can tell. Unless the neighborhood with them tells me that one/both of them townread the slot during the night, I don't have reason off of faith-trusting them not to keep pursuing this read, because the read has a SOLID basis to it.

Robert's posting indicated scum; Robert's flake indicated scum; ooba's flake indicated scum; SuperfluousNinja's posting indicates scum.

I realize that there are more scum in the game than SuperfluousNinja--and I realize that I need to reevaluate the poe pool to narrow it down on who those would be. But I need time to go over things, in particular, reads like Almost50. Ankamius who I trust last I knew told me he wasn't scum, but Severa last I knew was saying he was scum; Almost50's Not Voting status I found incredibly suspect, in tandem with him having been in my POE pool, so what that read comes down to, basically, is whether I trust Ankamius or trust Severa plus myself.

As just one example of a read I need to investigate more. I don't have that kind of time today; I'll have it within half a week.
Last I remember I was town reading A50 and I feel like I'm better at that than the people you're referring to so...

@NxM: I have never skipped a post this game. I thought I'd skipped some during D1, but I hadn't. Nice try though.
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Post Post #3313 (isolation #193) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:40 pm

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And in that case when did you change your mind exactly? I recall you saying close to EoD2 I was scum. Any channels you can back up your statements through?
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Post Post #3314 (isolation #194) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:44 pm

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In post 3247, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
In post 3238, Torque wrote:
In post 3190, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:
In post 3187, Near x Mello wrote:^subtly saying "this guy was wrong on severa, you shouldn't listen"

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Naw. If it seemed likely that Severa was a scum kill, then that's a really good point, but otherwise...not so much. Of course, in that scenario you'd have to ignore the fact that scum!me is actually way better at this game than town me, and everything that implies.
In post 3188, SuperfluousNinja wrote:I want to go back to this whole Toog thing. I need to read up on how this went down, but if I understand this correctly, at some point he freely told everyone that his role is such that if he gets targeted N2, he will die.

I legitimately do not understand why any townie would use a night action on him to kill him. Consider the two scenarios:

If a town player thinks he really is town, then why would this player want to kill town? Furthermore, why would this player want to waste his ability which is almost certainly much more than “Target a player so you can trigger some effect he may have”?

If a town player had any suspicions at all and thought he might NOT be town, then you would have to believe that a scum player, whose primary goal in this game is to stay alive, openly told everyone exactly how to kill him without even needing to lynch him. Furthermore, you would have to trust that there was no twist in killing him by targeting him to kill him, and it ought to be obvious that the only reason a scum would want to be targeted by a night action would be if he had an ability that allowed him to mess up whoever targeted him. In short, if he’s scum, logic would dictate that it’s a trap.

So I am highly suspicious of anyone who claims to be town and targeted him last night, as well as highly suspicious of anyone who thought what happened here was NBD and not worth discussing. I.E. the guy I’m currently voting for.
Check Mastina's ISO on the reasoning for targeting Toog; essentially in her PoE(and others) they had a decent chance of being scum, and were likely to be lynched, so more efficient to target them and remove them at night if they were a mislynch just waiting ot happen; if they were scum and lying, then caught scum. It was basically viewed as any action on them was a shot that would confirm them as scum or kill them, with killing them being something that would happen via lynch at some point.

It is, however, a bit weird that nobody(including myself, but I give myself a pass for not really paying attention) actually questioned why scum would make a statement that guaranteed their lynch on D3 if still alive. Nobody even really mentioned that it could be a wifom thing...so yeah.

You are welcome to, in the course of reading the game, find the people who were planning on targeting Toog.

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For what its worth, I warned people in my channel that if Toog is a wolf then he's a PGO
Did you also visit him? sorry if you mention it already
I did not. I considered it, but given that my action last night had an unknown but likely negative effect, with the possibility of being fatal, I did not want to mess with the process of determining if their death came about because of my ability or their own role, as well as still finding it reasonably likely that Gamma was scum. I also considered targeting the Robert slot, but given the mod's search for a replacement, if my role were to say block them instead of killing them, I wanted that effect to not be wasted on someone who may not have actually acted simply by virtue of not being a filled slot.

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Post Post #3317 (isolation #195) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 3268, Torque wrote:@Mastina

a townblock of Joan/Maybe Pink Ball/Dunn/RP/Chito & Yuuri/You/Me effective for today, yes/no
>50% of the living players, what? Sounds like you're orchestrating a pre-emptive mob to crack down on whomever you like.
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Post Post #3319 (isolation #196) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:50 pm

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In post 3315, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2455, Near x Mello wrote:i think mastina was maybe right on rp after all

I dont like their absence here

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In post 2470, Near x Mello wrote:i think its actually fl/robert/rp

what are your thoughts on rp? @elena

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In post 3096, Near x Mello wrote:
Severa
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Elena
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and these two are the bussing votes
In post 3097, Near x Mello wrote:nah scratch elena actually
i forgot shes not likely scum with flslot
In post 3114, Near x Mello wrote:if creature is town i was right the first time and its rc/ooba

but with all signs pointing to bussing im pretty sure this is rc/creature
I see. And that actually seems to match what you're expounding currently, so points for consistency.
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Post Post #3320 (isolation #197) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:50 pm

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In post 3318, Near x Mello wrote:eod2 was rc/ooba/rp

With rc flipping town that became ooba/rp/elena with mastina as a possibility but Elena+ooba didnt quite fit

and now im at mastina/rp/elena which fits perfectly

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Post Post #3321 (isolation #198) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:53 pm

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Tbh I want RP to explain what the hell sort of negative thing they targeted me with
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Post Post #3326 (isolation #199) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:23 pm

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In post 3323, Torque wrote:
In post 3317, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3268, Torque wrote:@Mastina

a townblock of Joan/Maybe Pink Ball/Dunn/RP/Chito & Yuuri/You/Me effective for today, yes/no
>50% of the living players, what? Sounds like you're orchestrating a pre-emptive mob to crack down on whomever you like.
I mean you aren't wrong lol I would love to somehow lead a mob and speed lynch wolves
But I'd rather have it be a democracy rather than what you make it sound like
(I told you I have an abnormally large amount of townreads this game)

Are you worried about the mob? I was actually starting to come around on you upon reading your ISO at night
Yes, in the sense that I don't want the game to just be a pre decided block of people controlling the lynch. One scum in there = massive problems. So I am concerned but the fact I am concerned probably makes me more town, not less.
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