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Post Post #35 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:29 am

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sorry micc, i didnt get what you're saying..
are you suggesting that we should have a consensus target on who we want to investigate?
scum would just kill that guy then right?
sorry didnt really get what you were saying even after multiple reads, can you kindly reword it for me?

@dr worm: what's your plan?

@creature, why is it a great start??

@bbmolla, why the self vote? you need some help there?
VOTE: bbmolla
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Post Post #45 (isolation #1) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:40 am

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i dunno with you guys but RVS is the one i find boring..
fun is in solving..
RVS is just unavoidable evil since it's the way to start this game..
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Post Post #68 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:08 am

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In post 53, Dannflor wrote:
In post 43, Creature wrote:If most of Micc's posts are like this, I wouldn't mind voting him.
His entrance feels mostly NAI because it's all setup spec, would like to see less of that moving forward. Though I do like that he was just presenting options and not pushing one strategy in particular.
In post 35, xwing wrote:@dr worm: what's your plan?

@creature, why is it a great start??

@bbmolla, why the self vote? you need some help there?
VOTE: xwing

Three extremely empty questions. One's been asked already and the others aren't helpful. Xwing, how are your Creature and Dr Worm questions gonna help you get reads?
what makes a question good or bad for you? who decides?
any question for me is fine, as long as it moves the game in any way, esp out of RVS (i hate that most)..
i dunno, but i'll know when they answer me, i'll keep you updated.. :)
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Post Post #76 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:29 am

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In post 69, Dannflor wrote:I guess it's that I interpreted Creature's "great start" comment as sarcasm and I don't know where the Dr Worm question even comes from. It seems like picking at things to look like you're being in active when in actuality I don't see them "moving the game in any way" as you put it.
if it was sarcasm, then i didnt get it..
anyway you're right, i suck at very early game, so i generally try to come in games when there's already more content..
anyway, i dont feel good about dr. worm, but all the jumping around makes me rethink..
creature wanting to stay in RVS is pinging me..
bbmolla self voting action is questionable..i find self-voting as a really dubious move regardless of alignment..

there's nothing much to go on yet, really..i dont think im good with small talk and starting stuff.....
In post 70, Vedith wrote:
In post 68, xwing wrote:who decides?
I nominate Dann
.....unlike this funny guy here.. :D
watya thinking saitama?
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Post Post #80 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:49 am

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@dann: i dont like dr worm for the naked vote, i guess..
first vote, i can reasonably think is RVS fine, but next vote with nothing makes me feel uncomfy..
what do you think of vedith?

dann for strong!town..yet again?!
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Post Post #84 (isolation #5) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:05 pm

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@draco lucky: are you an alt? did we play together already?
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Post Post #94 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:20 pm

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sure..so how does this work? like a you ask me i ask you thing?
what's your thoughts on the active players? i've already told some of mine..

pedit: wait for bb to respond before we talk about it is where my preference is..
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Post Post #98 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:27 pm

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In post 93, Creature wrote:
In post 54, Vedith wrote:PP lockedtown because rainbow reads only by town \o/
I agree

in a serious way
why do you think so? even though PP said it wasn't a serious read list?
In post 96, Creature wrote:
In post 84, xwing wrote:@draco lucky: are you an alt?
TMW you don't bother to check the OP
what's TMW?
also didnt notice the sig, now i get why there's a "u2" at the end of the posts..
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Post Post #177 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:07 am

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In post 108, Dr Worm wrote:DR WORM VOTED BBMOLLO then XWANG VOTED BBMOLLO.. but XWANG sayd DR WORM BAD IN HIS BRAIN for VOTING BBMOLLO??

YOUR BRAIN DOESN"T MAKE SENSE!!
i said i didnt feel good about you, but im not town or scum reading you atm..
can you please use small case at least? pretty pretty please?
In post 113, Creature wrote:I'll come up and say Mr Worm, PP and xwing are town
what about the way we're playing strikes you as town?
In post 132, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 116, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Dr. Worm

Policy.
PLs are anti town as fuck
who are you going to vote for, overkill?
In post 176, Dannflor wrote:
In post 156, Vedith wrote:We should lynch Draco a d if Draco town Draco then picks xwing.
Both these slots are town imo

UNVOTE: BBMolla

He's not quite towny but he's definitely not scum. I just don't see the scum motivation for entering the game with a self vote, drawing all that attention, and then continuing to play the way he's playing. My theory was that it was a play for town cred by acting as if he'd be okay with his lynch because he'd get an investigation. But that doesn't really fit with his play of "looking for reactions" + not reading the thread. It's sloppy play, and I think mafia would be more careful here, particularly since they entered the game with such a risky move.
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i can see where you're getting at, but it's kinda making me feel bb is at the very least anti-town for self-voting and fishing for reactions when he doesnt even read the reactions..kinda defeats the purpose of the self-vote..

i think the votes on micc are bad..he made a valid point..so im not gonna join that wagon..
for the record, we still have players who haven't posted..
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Post Post #183 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:28 am

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In post 178, PenguinPower wrote:Why is my vote on Micc bad?
coz i think micc's explanation is perfectly valid..like what's the point of a reaction test if you're not going to read reactions..
why do you think it warrants a vote?

i must admit what bb's doing seems more anti-town right now than scummy though..unless it's some scum gambit or something..there's too much attention on him rn..
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #187 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:36 am

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anyone can make valid points, i just felt his vote was righteous as it was made after bb's post revealed he's skimming..
what makes micc scummy for you?
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Post Post #189 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:39 am

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sorry was a response to PP

@micc: why's dannflor in your pool? and what makes creature and draco to be not in the pool?
pedit: huh..

@creature: why the vote on micc?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:27 pm

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In post 196, Dr Worm wrote:I don't APPRECIATE DANNNFLOR and XWINGS unvoting BBMOLL and NOT VOTING new person!! WHY NOT JUST LEAVE VOGE ON BBMOOL FOR PRESSURE?? Why NEED to LOOK like AGREEMENT WITH OTHERS??
wow..seems dr. worm is town..
dont worry will use my vote..im kinda stuck on who though..

@vedith: why is bb town for you?
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Post Post #207 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:34 pm

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okay i think i'll go for this slot:
VOTE: overkill

i think you're mostly posting fluff and actively lurking so far..
hope that changes on your wall post..(hope it's not THAT BIG of a wall though..)
how's your read so far?
what do you think of bb?
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Post Post #209 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:56 pm

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i respectfully disagree..i think it might boil down to play style, but we've had games where we caught scum coz they were just skimming everything..as scum there's no need to solve, especially in this setup having no PRs..so they dont need to analyze as much as town who is trying to find answers..
anyway i'm generally liking this latest post of yours, more detailed and solve-y..i wish you would use your vote though so i know how serious you are being..

what do you mean by focus exactly?
also, i find your assessment a bit unfair, as dann and i voted very early on, while micc got more content to work with..lastly, it assumes bb is town too, which im still not comfy to settle on..the worm was right..i regret moving off the wagon so hastily..but what's done is done..
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Post Post #219 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:44 am

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In post 211, Vedith wrote:@xwing
But all town are PRs. Scum!Molla never brings that attention to the table.

By focus I mean pushing attention to a player for what you believe/portray as scummy.
Dann in
" I like
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"I'll join
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on BBMolla"

This is basically using you to say he agrees but to not be the primary pusher.

VOTE: Dannflor
basically you're suspecting dann for sheeping my vote on bb?
dann also followed me to overkill..how does that affect your reads on both of us?
also, scum!molla can be gambiting for all we know..i need more from him to sort, im not convinced of him being town..null at best for now..null/scum for me..

overkill's wall post was very underwhelming..i expected him to at least give a read on all the active players..
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Post Post #221 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:39 am

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is my reason for voting overkill..
saying his wall post was underwhelming was just me calling a spade a spade..not scumreading him for that bit.. :)

as for bb, i dunno, i really am not comfy with him until he posts more, so no matter how you guys clear him, my null/scum read on him is my compromise..
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Post Post #226 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 222, Vedith wrote:Don't get me wrong. I don't think a vote on Overkill is bad.
And i would lynch the slot over keeping with what I have.

I really didn't like Danns response to me though and I feel he was intentially mis reading what I was saying.
okay, i'll bear this in mind..
i've played a couple of games with dann and i've always called him strong!town in those, so im trying to be wary of being pocketed by him..getting "sheeped " twice might also be indicative of him trying to pocket me (?) so im trying to be on guard, but so far so good..i do find it a bit hard to get stronger than null reads on most though, that's weird..
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Post Post #228 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:02 pm

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how so?
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Post Post #232 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:06 pm

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what do you think of micc's argument against your reaction test? you find it AI?
how was dann and vedith's reactions townie compared to others? (e.g. me and micc, from the top of my head..not sure if there were others who voted)
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Post Post #233 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:13 pm

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im still not convinced of scum!dann..his points on overkill is exactly what im thinking..im just trying to see both sides of the coin as i dont want to get pocketed, but im still not seeing scum!dann..even his response to dr.worm on why he unvoted was exactly the same reason i had (and i didnt share this info so i cant say that dann copied me)..
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Post Post #251 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:07 am

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i think DT is more likely to be town..i was trying to be overly cautious as with dann coz i also fear being pocketed esp by the slaxx head as i also have played with him and find him strong!town most of the time..reads make sense though i disagree on the PP part..

im not convinced of PP scum yet, still more nullish..
he seems quite cage-y with his reads, and also seems indifferent to suspicion on him..
i wish he gets a bit more verbose to make it easier to sort him (at least for me)..
like what are you thinking, why are you thinking that..etc..only if you want though, it's your play..

@overkill, why are you not voting? do you think there's scum on your wagon, and who/why? if you say there's no scum on your wagon, who do you think is scummy and why?
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Post Post #254 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:22 am

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why is micc scummy? and why did you decide overkill is the better wagon, even if dann (your scum read iirc) is on it?

i like all the days, i just hate RVS so i guess D1 is technically what i hate the most too..
you're more of a flip type of player?
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Post Post #256 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:52 am

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you voted for dann, so i assumed you found him scummy? if not, what was the vote for?
why was the snippet in a "dumb statement"?
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Post Post #562 (isolation #24) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:29 pm

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might be busy these coming days..
feel like there's nothing much for me to say..

{micc, molla, pp} is the scum pool for me..i havent reread yet though..
im least confident on pp being scum among the 3..
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Post Post #564 (isolation #25) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:57 pm

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{vedith, dr worm, draco, RC, dann}
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Post Post #573 (isolation #26) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 568, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 564, xwing wrote:{vedith, dr worm, draco, RC, dann}
these ur townreads?
you asked if the 3 i mentioned are all town..
if they are, i would go with the above next set of names in order..
sooo yes technically you could say the above are town reads as in they're not in my current scum pool..
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Post Post #606 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:51 pm

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In post 585, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 582, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 578, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait I'm your second strongest townread

Wanna talk me through why
Directed at xwing?
Yes
by virtue of having the least number of posts that ping me, i guess..i think i want you to be town..

i find it a bit hard to get strong reads though..
after reading back, i think i like bbmolla the least..
self-voting, claiming twas a reaction test, but not really reading the game properly..naked L-1 vote on OK..
ppl may say it's too scummy to be scum, but whatever..
VOTE: bbmolla

im waffling on both PP and vedith..the most current interaction re rainbow list seems good..and PP was my least confident scum read to begin with..also creature called PP town..and consequently doubted micc and draco..
@PP:
was there a reason you chose vedith out of all the others to compare rainbow lists with, and why?

the way PP called the draco post yucky strikes me as townie..makes me more unsure on draco slot..i find that slaxx should be an easy town read, not sure with u2 though..same with dann (usually easy town read), but im not suspecting dann as much now..
@draco-u2
: what do you think are your major contributions in this game for this particular day, and why?

micc is AFK but after reading his posts, they do seem townie enough? the way he observed some of my actions and noted them down for future reference but reserving judgment seem townie, and something i can see myself doing..

the post where i called dr worm town still stands..i think that particular post from him that i quoted was extremely townie..the gimick-y way he's posting is just throwing me off a bit..but i found it the towniest post so far..

consequently, the answer dann gave to this particular dr worm quote struck me as townie too..as it was my exact thought/reasoning..so i dont think dann's scum..the way dann handled my paranoia of him pocketing me seems townie as well..

the rest i think i got nothing in mind, you can ask me for specifics if you want..im getting a bit stressed from work.. :(
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Post Post #610 (isolation #28) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:57 pm

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for reference, this is the exchange i was referring about worm and dann:
In post 214, Dannflor wrote:[snip]
In post 196, Dr Worm wrote:I don't APPRECIATE DANNNFLOR and XWINGS unvoting BBMOLL and NOT VOTING new person!! WHY NOT JUST LEAVE VOGE ON BBMOOL FOR PRESSURE?? Why NEED to LOOK like AGREEMENT WITH OTHERS??
I didn't know who I wanted to pressure next, and pressuring BB when he's intent on keeping his vote on his own slot feels unproductive too. He's anti-town but not scum.
pedit: PP, no, this is the first time i've heard of a "rainbow" list..though i assume it's just another name for a read list with a confidence level of some sort..why do you ask?

ppedit: draco-u2, just skimmed, will check some time..
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Post Post #623 (isolation #29) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:15 pm

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@PP:
is the reason for choosing vedith secret for now? will you be revealing it anytime soon? is there something i should know about a rainbow list that's AI?

@RC:
okay cool, though i wanna know what your solve is..maybe after a few more people have posted? im being very lazy town when i sorted you, hope it's right lol..

@draco:
i want you to be town, coz i like slaxx..
pedit: what topic in particular do you want micc/RC to address that you dont want to get colored?
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Post Post #634 (isolation #30) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:33 pm

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@PP, im fine to discuss the rainbow stuff for later, im almost off for today, so that's it for now for our real time talk(s)..

takeaways:
-i got a good feeling about PP and how he interacted with me..i just hope not to like people a lot coz it makes it hard for me to scum read them lol..
-i think draco vs pp is TvT..

special mention:
very excited to see RC's solvey post tomorrow.. :)

Spoiler: last but not the least
echoing RC's post..let's enjoy the game guys..cool off a bit..we dont really enjoy seeing anyone shamed or something..
if it's about improving our play or polite critique, im definitely game for that.. :)
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Post Post #655 (isolation #31) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:16 am

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im not joining a draco wagon if there's ever one that's gonna be started..
im okay to join the micc wagon but im not ready to put him to L-1 right now, want to hear from him first..
i need someone who is a strong advocate of town!bb to help explain the read on that slot, im still lost as to why..
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Post Post #657 (isolation #32) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:19 am

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In post 650, Dr Worm wrote:DR WORM LIKES YOUR LAST POAST MR VADETH!!
how much do you like it? apparently not enough to move your vote though?

pedit: @vedith i think so, last VC from NSG got micc at 4 votes, takes 5 to lynch..
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Post Post #658 (isolation #33) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:20 am

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ebwop: i meant 3 votes..micc's at 3 votes right now, takes 5 to lynch..so yes he's at L-2..
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Post Post #660 (isolation #34) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:24 am

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we got 7 days, let's wait a bit..
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Post Post #663 (isolation #35) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:33 am

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@vedith:
yes, please..
disclaimer is i find it hard to read players who write briefly (e.g. molla, pp, you to an extent?)..
so if i cant get a strong town read, i bin them into my scum list, that's how i hunt..
bb looks scummy to me from the top of my head coz:
1) i cant read his brief style
2) i didnt like how he has voted (first for self, very dubious for me..and also the way he voted for OK and micc with almost no explanation)
3) i didnt like how he posed his self vote as a reaction test but failed to read reactions from it..
4) i wasn't comfy with who was defending him (vedith)--this is kinda moot now, i think i can work with you..

pedit: @dr worm: if vedith is town, who else would be on your scummy list?
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Post Post #666 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:05 am

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im not sure about 2 (about votes)..no offense but OK really seemed scummy to me so if i were buddies i definitely would have bussed him instead of trying to defend him..so dr worm i could possibly see as a buddy..

i've thought hard about 3 (reaction test) as i had the same thought..he admitted he skimmed..i dont see any scum benefit to admit this..that compared to micc's push on him makes me think he might be town..but that's assuming micc flips red..

Spoiler: PP
i've had my doubts on PP, especially when he implied that he's voting to get any wagon rolling..there was a point where there were competing wagons with equal votes, but he chose one over the other, and i didnt like how he reacted to draco's statement about "a suspicious vote" by calling it dumb, when draco didn't specify which vote it was bad..i can get to specific posts later if you want im just lazy to go back rn.. @_@
however, during the real time interactions, i find him pretty transparent, especially with the rainbow list (seems to be his way of knowing your alignment), and the 1v1 with draco struck me as townie too..


tldr: im good with pp for town so far, and him having bb as bottom 3 read is okay, as it aligns with my own reads..

what do you think of RC? i feel i've given him too easy of a pass..maybe i liked the way he stepped in to prevent the pp v draco fight from escalating..maybe the guy is likeable.. @_@
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Post Post #667 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:08 am

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ebwop:
In post 666, xwing wrote:i've thought hard about 3 (reaction test) as i had the same thought..he admitted he skimmed..i dont see any scum benefit to admit this..that
compared
plus micc's push on him makes me think he might be town..but that's assuming micc flips red..
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Post Post #669 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:13 am

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okay okay..im not in the mood to grill you anyway..just wanted to know what people thought of your slot.. :)
still excited to see your case though im not asking you to rush it..
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Post Post #698 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:10 pm

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i humbly suggest we wait for micc to hop on, then discuss after that..
it would be hard to reread the thread if we put in too much "in-fighting", for lack of a better word..
im off for today, excited to see what micc's got for us when i read tom.. :)
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Post Post #708 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:48 am

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In post 704, Draco Lucky wrote:Has anyone ever done any work to look into whether town misses self-imposed deadlines more often than scum? or the other way around? If someone knows of a MD thread or something, that would be sweet.

-U2
fwiw, it's scum who usually miss self-imposed deadlines in my completed games..
it's a bit hard to use as AI though coz they can say something in line with having RL issues which we have no way of verifying, and will often make people feel sympathetic to them..
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Post Post #715 (isolation #41) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:28 am

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gut is really telling me draco is town..
anyway RC, that's assuming micc's town, and that he would be active to choose a target..
i "third" the motion to hear your case..
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Post Post #788 (isolation #42) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:42 am

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finally what? kinda lost here..
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Post Post #846 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 810, Dannflor wrote:
In post 606, xwing wrote:what do you think are your major contributions in this game for this particular day, and why?
also xwing what was the purpose of this question?
coz the way he worded the quote before that pinged me as a bit LAMIST, they said something along the lines of "okay we've contributed a lot today no need to 1v1 with you vedith"..
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Post Post #847 (isolation #44) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:24 am

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Spoiler: wall ahead
not sure what to think of dann's 809..i dont recall him writing big-ass walls like these on multiple people but maybe my memory is wrong..first thought i would say it's townie for me..i dont really disagree on the major points he has presented..

im honestly annoyed with his waffling on me that's making his PoE unnecessarily harder for him..i feel like i've always bared my soul in my games so this kinda feels a bit disappointing from my end..though admittedly this game im finding it hard to scum read people (aside from D1)..i mean i was the first on the OK wagon and never got off it, no one was even minding OK enough that time to bother voting..and dann YOU followed ME into THAT vote.. @_@

anyway no one else before JC concluded bb is scummy for their own reasons..im not going to convince anyone if he doesnt post much anyway and majority of you have him as town..i already detailed how i scum hunt and he's in my PoE mainly because i cant get a strong read on him..i find i have a tendency to town read everyone, so i just lynch my weakest town reads and i find i usually have success with this..i might be wrong, but it's either bb or dr worm for me rn..

im gonna need more convincing for a jc/micc before i can consider that wagon..also, if majority of us were really doubting jc/micc, we should have gone for micc/JC BEFORE vedith and have mic/JC investigate someone else..i already expressed that vedith is townie based on our 1v1..i feel we semi-wasted a lynch, saving grace was the PP investigate..

im okay on a dr worm wagon..i can see how the reaction test and hammer vote could be from scum..i pegged him town mostly because of his one post that seemed super duper townie..

im not joining a draco/dann wagon for now..i feel both of them should be easy town reads for me, not sure why i cant confidently strong read them this game..i believe they are town right now..


TLDR:
im slightly annoyed at dann but think he's town (not personal, just in game..)
im slightly butt hurt at dann's susp, but im town.. (not your fault dann, we're good..)
draco seems town, but i cant get a confident enough of a read to call it strong..
i believe it could be bb/dr worm scum team.. (dont ask for assoc, i dont know, i dont hunt like this)..
JC at worst is null..i'll lynch her after bb/dr worm..

call it a vanity vote or whatever, if there's no good case against someone else that can convince me, my vote is still gonna be here..
VOTE: bbmolla
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Post Post #849 (isolation #45) » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:38 pm

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what an informative post from bb..
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Post Post #880 (isolation #46) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 858, Draco Lucky wrote:Slaxx is pretty confident Xwing is town.

I'm not as confident. That last reads list was bad. Last scum is still likely Bbmolla or Dann

-U2

Worm and Dann are good checks if junko is town
uhhhh i dont get your logic here u2..
if you say my read list is bad, then why do we have the same, sans dann?
you say last scum is likely bb or dann..im actually voting bb..been voting and susp that slot for ages..
you say dr worm is a good check..im suspecting dr worm as well..
whuuuut? @_@ c'mon man..
killed townies all got me as town..
i suggest you trust the slaxx head on this..but it's your call..

that said, i now feel like i can't trust dann this game..
u2 confusion/waffling on my slot comes from a genuine place..im pretty confident of this..
i cant say the same about dann..he has always read me right..might be coz of how i played this game or whatever, but i feel i've played the game as i've always had..
early on the game, he was "cautious" around me, playing buddy and sheeping my votes..and saying words like "at the risk of you thinking im further buddying you..+ town points for paranoia etc etc".. [paraphrased]..
now, i just feel he's taking advantage of u2's susp to turn against me..
if JC is town (which i feel is a bigger chance rn), it could be a dann/bb team..
if JC is scum, i dunno what to think..

can you rank your reads to me right now, u2?

lastly, if you guys want JC lynched, go ahead, but im not joining the wagon rn unless i personally find it scummy..i want JC to address slaxx's points against her (VCA and the activity-tell) before i say my piece..

tldr:
draco is town, he can be my strongest for now, though i wish i was able to read them waaaay earlier..
jc i feel is more likely town than not, im okay to lynch, but im not joining that wagon..
dr worm is an enigma, i want him to be town..
bb and dann is null/scum

PS: i wanna hear from PP..

pedit: i've read the new posts but havent digested, too lazy to rewrite my essay..
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Post Post #881 (isolation #47) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:31 am

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In post 856, JunkoChan wrote:[snip] if PP decides to finish me I'm venging dr worm or bbmolla
^why im okay with a JC lynch..
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Post Post #882 (isolation #48) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 879, JunkoChan wrote:*eye roll* you don't get it

Pedit: i think there's a high chance they are both scum but i'm dead sure at least one of them is
did you get draco's point about that particular VCA, though?
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Post Post #889 (isolation #49) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 813, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 811, Draco Lucky wrote:
In post 758, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 113, Creature wrote:I'll come up and say Mr Worm, PP and xwing are town
btw i suspect creature was killed because this is right
In post 759, RadiantCowbells wrote:{RC, PP, xwing, worm}
molla ????
{Micc, Draco}
{Vedith, Dannflor} btw
this seems relevant. Added note: RC later said that he had micc too low on the list
-U2
In my experience, mafia always kills whoever they think is more treatening or whoever is not scumreading them
Assumung we are all at least semi experienced here the first one is less likely, by killing RC who had the same reads as Creature it basicly locktowns those reads

Tbh I don't understand how after all that happened day 2 Dr.worm is still not dead
VOTE: Dr.worm
did an ISO on you JC, and this is your first post..
RC and creature got similar reads, and you said that them having the same reads "locktowns" these reads..
dr worm is part of the overlap, along with me (?) and PP (conf!town)..
but you're voting dr worm..
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Post Post #890 (isolation #50) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:58 am

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In post 884, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 880, xwing wrote:PS: i wanna hear from PP..
What do you want to hear?
what do you think of dann, bb, and JC?
do you have any reactions/thoughts on the current interactions that is happening?
any last words before you prolly get killed? ^_^
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Post Post #892 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:02 am

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In post 885, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 882, xwing wrote:
In post 879, JunkoChan wrote:*eye roll* you don't get it

Pedit: i think there's a high chance they are both scum but i'm dead sure at least one of them is
did you get draco's point about that particular VCA, though?
I think I do but I still think he is wrong
they are wrong in what way?
really was hoping your answer would further clear you but it's doing the opposite so far.. :(
i thought we could be friends who shared the same suspicions..im sad.. :(
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Post Post #895 (isolation #52) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:11 am

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sorry JC i didnt understand ..
can you kindly repeat it for me?
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Post Post #898 (isolation #53) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 883, Draco Lucky wrote:@xwing

Paragraph 2 of your wall on dann is just pure ate
Paragraph 3 is "I have no reasons why I think Bbmolla is scum so I'm just going to throw up my hands because it's not like I can convince anyone anyway"
Paragraph 4 is a lecture on how we should have lynched JC yesterday, so now we're stuck with the slot? Like, what?

and then at the end you're clearly self-aware that what you're doing ("call it a vanity vote or whatever") isn't pro-town, but you commit to it anyway.

The whole thing reads scummy

-U2
i missed this..
par2: AtE, yeah i guess, does my frustration read genuine or not to you??
par3: uhhhh what? i suggest you re-read why i think bb is scum..im just saying that most of you dont believe bb is scum so im not going to waste my entire time arguing about it..but i made sure to make my convictions known with my vote..i dont feel like i have to go with general consensus..
par4: is me frustrated with a vedith lynch when before i left the plan was to lynch micc and have him cop someone else..then logging on and knowing there's a sudden change of plans..put yourself in my shoes and tell me how you would you feel about that? does my frustration read genuine or not to you??

yes, im self-aware of the "vanity vote" because dann used the word, im merely reusing it, hence the double quotes..and i dont consider my vote as a vanity vote or even anti-town, because i believe that bb might be scum, and so my vote is there..what do you expect town!me to do? you havent explained why im scummy when we have basically the same reads..zzzzzz..aaaaaand i came up with it first before you iirc..
see first parts in ..
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Post Post #899 (isolation #54) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 897, JunkoChan wrote:We can be friends if you get the win for us even after i die to this mess
i dunno..the VCA argument against you is pretty compelling..
my only consolation is if you're town i know you're copping slots who i want to cop anyway..
if you're scum though, im gonna be brokenhearted.. :(
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Post Post #905 (isolation #55) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:30 pm

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In post 901, Draco Lucky wrote:@xwing You don't think junko is scum, so I disagree that we have the same reads.

I also don't know why having the same reads means I should town read you.

As to whether or not your frustration feels real, I don't know mate. All I'm really confident on is that junko is scum

-U2
the context about "having the same reads" as you was based on your ..
anyway, you're right, when i thought about it, having the same reads actually means differently/nothing depending on how you're viewing a particular slot..
so i concede it's basically not a good argument from your pov..oh well..

@dann: maaaaaaan i dunno anymore..your latest post seemed townie and i didnt feel any malice/shading behind it..i cant find something inconsistent or untrue there..i thought we've been in more games but maybe im just recalling wrongly zzzzz.. @_@
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Post Post #918 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:49 am

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In post 910, PenguinPower wrote: 1. Don't like you trying to explain RC's reads and flow, especially with the "I've done the same" and admission you don't know him well.
2. Don't like your adjective usage in response to xwing.
3. Don't like your association for scum!Mr. Dr Worm.
[snip]
1. why do you think this is scummy?
2. which adjective?
3. what do you mean by this?

also, JC is at L-1..
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Post Post #937 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:28 am

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deadline is in 6 days, no need to rush..
PP did say he wanted to do the hammer..not sure how motivated PP rn is though.. :-s

@JC, if you're town, what's the benefit of goading others to hammer you?
@draco, if JC is scum, who's her possible scum buddy (you can name multiple if you wish)..

pedit: never mind..
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Post Post #940 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:31 am

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i was stuck in the previous page and didnt see the new posts in the new page..
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Post Post #944 (isolation #59) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:33 am

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-_-"

errrrkay..
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Post Post #947 (isolation #60) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:41 am

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is that it? @_@
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Post Post #949 (isolation #61) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:50 am

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hihi sorry PP..
pretty please, give us more?
please accept this humble offering..

*insert fish and crustacean pictures*

sorry i dunno the command to put in pix though haha..
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Post Post #955 (isolation #62) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:42 am

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im here, waiting for the flip, but didnt butt in coz you were looking to talk with JC..
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Post Post #956 (isolation #63) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:43 am

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oh a lot of people are in :lol:
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Post Post #959 (isolation #64) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:48 am

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In post 902, PenguinPower wrote:I want Mr. Dr Worm to explain Janko scum to me.
dr worm you missed this though..
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Post Post #961 (isolation #65) » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:53 am

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what do you mean?
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Post Post #972 (isolation #66) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:35 pm

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not sure what to think of JC wanting to lynch both bb/dr worm..but it seems bb is town after all..
not sure who last scum is, but it's not me..
not leaving a vote while about to go to V/LA..
im around for 2 or 3 more hours, if anyone's interested..

@mod:
regular V/LA on weekends, back on monday
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Post Post #973 (isolation #67) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:39 pm

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guess no one is on now..have a great weekend and see y'all monday..
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Post Post #987 (isolation #68) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:48 am

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In post 974, Dr Worm wrote:
In post 972, xwing wrote:but it seems bb is town after all..
WHY is BBMOOLA seem is TOWN after all??
he's been consistent in pushing for micc/JC since d1..and they did turn out to be scum..
also, his vote is consistent with who he finds scummy, and right now it's me..

scum knows i would be an easy mislynch, but dann's actually defending me..and worm has me as town so far..not sure what to think of that..the ones who are scum reading me seem to be the townie ones..
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Post Post #988 (isolation #69) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:55 am

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In post 980, Dannflor wrote:My main problem with xwing is that I feel like I've made a pretty good case for town!Molla and yet they're still voting there over like Dr Worm, their other sus slot. I guess it also doesn't feel like xwing is really trying to actively sort those slots, despite having a lot of weak reads.

However, the associations from Junko's side read purposeful, to the point where it looked like she was just trying to frame xwing
i agree you did a case on bb, but i didnt find it convincing enough..
i voted bb over worm because i had worm with a weeeeee bit more town points than bb..
worm was my next target after him, then JC..
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Post Post #992 (isolation #70) » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 989, Draco Lucky wrote:Now I'm more like
Scum in Xwing, Dann, Dr. Worm
Most likely last scum Dr. Worm
this is my scum pool..
of course i know im town though so i got a lesser pool, but i agree my JC defense and bb push was scummy..
has anyone played with scum!dann before?
lastly, i dont want to vote until everyone has come in and said their piece..
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #71) » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:39 am

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In post 1006, Dannflor wrote:
In post 988, xwing wrote:i voted bb over worm because i had worm with a weeeeee bit more town points than bb..
What are your town points for Worm?
his early post, where he seemed angry that we unvoted bb..motivation seemed townie..
also his reaction test for OK hammer seemed townie..
lastly, he's giving out reads, although on second look there's not much elaboration as to how or why he came up with his reads (though the same could be said of bb too..)
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #72) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:44 am

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you guys wanna talk more for this day phase?
intent to hammer..
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Post Post #1022 (isolation #73) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:21 am

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why should there be a counterwagon?
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #74) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:39 am

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In post 999, Dr Worm wrote:DRACO WAS TROWN in my MIND but LESS CERTAINN NOW!!
In post 1001, Dr Worm wrote:BBMOOLA also SEEMED TROWN!!

DR WORM CAN"T REMENBER ANUTHING ABOUT DANCEFLOOR!!
well you did try to..but you gave no reasons why..
i think it would have been better if you went for a wagon on me..
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:43 am

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why?
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:08 am

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why is bb town?
why are you unsure about draco?
why do you think dann is scum?
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:18 am

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okay, will wait for bb then..we got 5 days more anyway..can we discuss what we do if by any chance the worm is town?

anyway dr worm no counterwagon argument is silly..
and reason for town!me seems too superficial..
i feel like you're most likely the last scum..
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:45 am

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dr worm, are you gonna answer/respond to the other stuff in the posts above?
in the meanwhile..still waiting for bb..
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:24 am

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your wish is my command..
VOTE: dr worm
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:52 am

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i really hope so, i dont want to be in lylo..i cant stand the pressure of choosing wrongly..
i wish PP and i exchanged places rn..he doesnt want IC but is fine in lylo..
im the opposite..i dont wanna be the IC in lylo but fine in other days.. :D
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:26 am

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Post Post #1067 (isolation #82) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:33 pm

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VOTE: dannflor

worm why would you clear bb..shoulda investigated me or dann for sure win.. :(
what's done is done though..
bb, you've suspected me for a while, but im not the last scum..
i broke my not posting on weekends for this.. @_@
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Post Post #1069 (isolation #83) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:49 pm

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cliffnotes version: you're conf!town, i'm town, hence dann is scum.
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #84) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:06 pm

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dann played a good scum day, i only started majorly suspecting him at the latter parts, specifically during my post ..in my iso you'll see im waffling on him a lot, as he's usually an easy town read for me..i thought he was sheeping/pocketing me early on (which, indeed he was..but hindsight is 20/20)..i think i should have trusted my instincts more..

look at his posturing before the end of the day, shading draco slot in case i got copped..guy knows how to cover his bases well..
also im biased coz i now know he's scum, but his "drunken" last posts sound so LAMIST to me..with the "i shoulda been copped" and "i believe in you bb"..to borrow PP's words..YUCK..

almost all the rest of the players got me as town, except you and half of draco..that's why im here..
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #85) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:12 pm

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dann, man, you sure posted a lot..
also, i must admit your scum game is almost as good as your town game..but next time i think i know what my tell on you will be..
moving on..
In post 1071, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1070, xwing wrote:dann played a good scum day, i only started majorly suspecting him at the latter parts, specifically during my post 880..in my iso you'll see im waffling on him a lot, as he's usually an easy town read for me..i thought he was sheeping/pocketing me early on (which, indeed he was..but hindsight is 20/20)..i think i should have trusted my instincts more..
lol

I played a good town game. Ok, maybe not perfect because I didn't obv town as much as I could have early on, but I attribute that mostly to lack of time that coincided with this game. The fact that I lowkey suspected all three members of the scum team D1 has me feeling really good though

I ended up clearing you later, but that was mostly because of Slaxx's insistence that you were town. I trust him as a player and was fairly confident his slot was town so his read on you shook me.

Turns out my gut instinct was correct:
In post 35, xwing wrote:sorry micc, i didnt get what you're saying..
are you suggesting that we should have a consensus target on who we want to investigate?
scum would just kill that guy then right?
sorry didnt really get what you were saying even after multiple reads, can you kindly reword it for me?

@dr worm: what's your plan?

@creature, why is it a great start??

@bbmolla, why the self vote? you need some help there?
VOTE: bbmolla
This post pinged me hard at the very beginning of the game just because it was such a large departure from the meta I had on xwing.

For comparison, here is xwing's first post in the other game I've played with him where he was town:
Spoiler:
In post 93, xwing wrote:im here..not finding much to comment on atm..
In post 45, Flubbernugget wrote:Haschels tryharding reads town
i will agree for now..
In post 57, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 47, Dannflor wrote:It's too elaborate to fake
I mean it's not that hard. I have only played one game.

I'm not liking this hardcore defence of me. Feels a bit like trying way too hard to find townieness from what I said. As if he
knows
I'm town.

VOTE: Dannflor
i agree it seems like dann is *trying* to pocket, but his later posts seems fine..
In post 66, Persivul wrote:
In post 60, JunkoChan wrote:I always believed that naked votes during RVS are Status quo for noob mafia
I naked vote in RVS frequently as either alignment. It's no big deal.
for me, naked votes are NAI this early too..
In post 71, BuJaber wrote:Gamma is null at best and slightly scummy for not following the game closely enough.
It's not the subject of the vote that I take issue with. It's that it's naked after Dann said he thinks scum are more inclined to post reasons with their votes than not.
@gamma ^
what do you think?


town!xwing on entrance is a lot less agenda driven, he's cautious and sends out feelers and frankly just fence sits. Furthermore, town!xwing was extremely hesitant to vote and didn't even place down his first vote until post #198 in that game when he became more confident. Contrast that to his entrance in this game, it's like night in day. Here he comes in much more aggressively hiding behind a guise of looking productive while asking (what I pointed out at the time to be) a lot of useless questions. Then he couples this empty aggression with a vote on the bbmolla wagon, despite the fact that town!xwing refused to vote until page 8 in Winter's Sacrifice due to having no strong scum reads. The play style and agenda behind entering the game is just so different

Granted, that's meta based off of one game, but it's what set me off on xwing at the start and I think I was right and Slaxx was just paranoid.

Also big lol at "
i only started majorly suspecting him at the latter parts
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true, you start throwing shade at me as soon as I post my reads at the beginning of the day and realize there were several problems with your play. But your sudden shift to a scum read on me is based entirely off the fact that I called you a mixed read? Your logic was that I should be able to read you easily, but we've only played one other game together (Winter's Sacrifice). I called you out on this later, so you backed off here:
@dann: maaaaaaan i dunno anymore..your latest post seemed townie and i didnt feel any malice/shading behind it..i cant find something inconsistent or untrue there..i thought we've been in more games but maybe im just recalling wrongly zzzzz.. @_@
you called my "meta-read" of you based off one game ridiculous, but you're being a hypocrite by bringing up my entrance based off one game as well..different games merit different approaches, so i dunno what you're pushing here..i dont even know what you mean by my entrance being agenda driven, as i was pretty transparent when i said i dont like self-votes, and i said this multiple times..and i've backed it up with my votes..not my proudest/best moment this game, but my intentions were pure..
also, if you read further after that post, slaxx who has played with me found nothing wrong with that post, and your line of questioning caused him to doubt you, actually..

i'll reply to the rest of your giant posts later..
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #86) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:20 pm

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In post 1073, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1070, xwing wrote:look at his posturing before the end of the day, shading draco slot in case i got copped..guy knows how to cover his bases well..
This doesn't even make sense. Based on Dr Worms reads, he was never going to investigate BB or xwing (at least that's what he outwardly expressed). His doubts laid on me and Draco. Therefore, scum is forced into killing one of us. I got a little paranoid of Draco because if the game didn't end right there, I felt it was likely he'd been setting me up for a 1v1 with his constant shade towards me (again not due to me play but due to associations with Micc that he never explained)

Obviously my paranoia got the better of me there, but it doesn't really make sense for me to be shading Draco as scum there. If I'm scum, I'm forced into pocketing him. Based on Worm's reads, there was a pretty good chance Worm would investigate either me or Draco. If I was scum, I'd know the game was over if I was investigated, which meant I would have had to play for the scenario where Draco is investigated. Why the hell would I be trying to antagonize a likely IC as scum in lylo??
i think this is pretty stupid reasoning..
if i was gonna get lynched, i certainly wont tell anyone who im gonna vengecop, or else scum will know who to kill..or i would have told who i was gonna venge then investigate someone else to wifom scum..
the above is more aligned with how town will think, as opposed to scum who is trying to find clues as to who best to kill..
so draco intentionally NOT telling who to venge aside from bb was correct..as ALL OF US cleared bb, so it should have come between you, me or draco..
stop playing wifom chicken with me please and attack my play/posts..i suggest you use my defense of scum!junko and horrible tunnel on bb as basis..these arguments have a higher chance of making you win..
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #87) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:31 pm

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In post 1077, Dannflor wrote:
In post 998, Dr Worm wrote:XWANG still TROWN IN MY HEART!!

LAST SCUM COULD BE ANYBIDY ELSE!!
In post 999, Dr Worm wrote:DRACO WAS TROWN in my MIND but LESS CERTAINN NOW!!
In post 1001, Dr Worm wrote:BBMOOLA also SEEMED TROWN!!

DR WORM CAN"T REMENBER ANUTHING ABOUT DANCEFLOOR!!
Proof of Dr Worm's reads going into the end of yesterday

- Me and Draco are seemingly the obvious candidates for investigation
- I get paranoid of Draco despite that being either a terrible risk for scum!me (going up against an IC in lylo) or just not helpful
- xwing probably doesn't consider BB for NK considering he's unlikely to be an IC
- xwing chooses Draco since he suspects xwing while I have xwing as pretty solid town
- killing Draco also serves double purpose of framing me

tbh I'm warming up to Worm's play here

I think the surprise investigation really threw xwing for a loop and it basically guaranteed an IC in lylo, which brings up our chances of winning from 33% to 50%
yes, the surprise investigation threw me off coz i was expecting either a dann or xwing venge..which would have won the game (no offense worm, i can get why bb..but still..i mean draco/bb was town read by all at that time..)
also, did you miss the giant wall post where draco got me as town? he even got this small funny tells in it...
you've been prepping me for lylo for a while..you cant afford to let slaxx live coz you're his next scum after worm..and you left bb alive coz he's the townie suspecting me..easy for you to sway someone who's already suspicious of me..
almost everyone who's died town read me..no one scum read me as much as bb and you (and u2, to an extent) did..i cant believe a novice player like me who's played like less than 10 games on this site is so good at this (this is my first and only forum mafia game site too)..go check my only scum game in this site, you'll see a very big difference..(click my wiki)..
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #88) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:06 pm

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In post 1081, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1080, xwing wrote:also, did you miss the giant wall post where draco got me as town? he even got this small funny tells in it...
you've been prepping me for lylo for a while..you cant afford to let slaxx live coz you're his next scum after worm..and you left bb alive coz he's the townie suspecting me..easy for you to sway someone who's already suspicious of me..
almost everyone who's died town read me..no one scum read me as much as bb and you (and u2, to an extent) did..i cant believe a novice player like me who's played like less than 10 games on this site is so good at this (this is my first and only forum mafia game site too)..go check my only scum game in this site, you'll see a very big difference..(click my wiki)..
This is a blatant misrep of my posts and read on you.
In post 864, Dannflor wrote:a little
worried if this flips scum that Junko came in distancing Dr Worm and is trying to make xwing a mislynch for tomorrow
In post 904, Dannflor wrote:This + a few other comments she's made about xwing feel like REALLY obvious setup to make xwing look like a potential partner. I think Junko knows she gets lynched 99% of the time here, and this reads far too blatant. If this flips scum, I actually have a really hard time seeing xwing as a partner because of this. It's still possible and I guess you could argue WIFOM, but
the simpler explanation is that scum!Junko is trying to set up a mislynch here
.
In post 976, Dannflor wrote:
In post 971, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: xwing
hi how are you reading people + elaborate on xwing?

I have a really hard time seeing a junko/xwing team
I basically had you as lock town yesterday, I don't see how this could possibly be construed as me "setting you up for lylo" especially when you were probably a perfectly viable lynch for a scum!me to push for yesterday
why are you ignoring the part where you blatantly mis rep draco's read on me?
by set up in lylo, i just mean how you played me was a good setup--in a nutshell, pocketing me and passing good enough as town, even though both draco and i keep waffling on our read on you..then letting someone who suspected me and is lynch baity survive til lylo..
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #89) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:07 pm

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oh btw, i dont think im a viable lynch yesterday, you wont be able to get the lynch..
remember, worm and draco got me as town..
pushing me would make your agenda known.. :)
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #90) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:11 pm

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anyway, @bb, after you read, do decide quickly, i dont wanna drag this game longer than it should, it's not good for my health..just vote when you come in next time, we're both at L-1..

anyway, win or lose, sincerely well played dann.. (not sarcasm)..
im off for the day..laters.. :)
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #91) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:10 pm

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In post 1089, Dannflor wrote:and yea I think I've said all I need to say

I think your play speaks for itself at this point
yeah no..nice shading though.. :)
count how many players called you scummy compared to me..
draco will always be the NK regardless of who becomes IC..
if xwing is IC, dann can play against my paranoia and read on bb..
if bb is IC, dann will do what he's doing now..
if im scum, it doesnt make sense for me to let bb live (who's been scum reading me since the day before)..
i would be in a better position killing bb and having draco by my side..
anyway that's all wifom though so yeah, bb just come in and vote whoever you feel is scum..

im foreseeing a busy day tom so i might not be able to post as much..
take a look at my completed scum game and see how much diff it is from here..if you have time..
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #92) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:38 am

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hope you patched things up well.. :)
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #93) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 1096, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Dannflor

I'm so sorry everyone if this is wrong. The situation seems just a bit too perfect for Dan here where there's so much situational awkwardness with xwing that would be very clumsy from scum.

Micc's interactions with Dan too are hm.

I don't want to drag this out more, so here it is. If wrong, sorry Dan and wp xwing.
good call, bb..thanks for choosing the winning lynch.. :D
In post 1097, Dannflor wrote:gg wp

gotta work on my scum play

Sorry xwing I feel I was pretty manipulative towards you this game I feel bad :(

enjoyable player list and fun game all
it's the nature of the game, dann..you played it pretty well but i think you played *too* well in the sense that the lylo situation was too in your favor, methinks..next time i cant get a strong town read on you, i'll just lynch you :P nyahaha!!
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #94) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:48 pm

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In post 1102, JunkoChan wrote::( nice try dann
i trusted you!!!! T_T
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #95) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:50 pm

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nsg, great flavour!! i love reading your stories! also, thanks for the very timely modding, we appreciate it! :D
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #96) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:52 pm

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give permission to release the scum PT!!! :P
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #97) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:55 pm

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i think this could be one of my not-so-proud performances (excluding my first few newbie games)..
i actually defended scum this game..huhu..

really well-played everyone, i enjoyed the player list and the mod!! :D
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #98) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:56 pm

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In post 1115, northsidegal wrote:
In post 1113, xwing wrote:give permission to release the scum PT!!! :P
didn't you read the story? we've got them wiretapped, no permission needed here :]
i read everything.. :D i just thought it was customary to give permission and stuff coz i've seen it at the end of all my past games..nyahaha great way to start the weekend (well at least on my time zone)! :P
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