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Post Post #8300 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:11 pm

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In post 8297, Jingle wrote:On last thing before I duck out of the thread for a few hours. If what I hope will happen doesn't, we should probably lynch me or EJ, despite both of us likely flipping green.
Wait a second, I didn't agree to this.
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Post Post #8301 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:11 pm

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Wouldn’t that be Thanos?
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Post Post #8302 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:12 pm

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Post Post #8303 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:15 pm

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Okay, I lied about leaving.

First: False dichotomy. Claiming the lynch is between N&M and BEF is stupid.

Second: Stickygate only makes player's results potentially unreliable if they claim their shots before night, which they shouldn't do. Loyal should be looking to clear town, not catch scum at this point, so your argument is fairly moot.

Third: Una has more reason to be town mechanically than anyone other than Thanos, who I also asked for a claim order. And, as far as I know you think he's town. So :yawn:

Fourth: No one wants to lynch BEF? I can understand your wrong belief that I wouldn't support any of the other lynches, but BEF is one of your two biggest leads.

Fifth: This isn't about people claiming results. This is about catching scum in a lie. I very much doubt there's an innocent result on N&M or BEF, but that's not really relevant. Let's say X is a town protective. He stopped the kill N3. He probably doesn't have many/any shots left.
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Post Post #8304 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 8299, Nero Cain wrote:Why is Una pseudo-conf town?
Creature investigation after creature was ascetic.

And yes, I'd prefer Thanos had given the order. But since they seem incapable of doing so when asked...
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Post Post #8305 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:18 pm

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In post 8300, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 8297, Jingle wrote:On last thing before I duck out of the thread for a few hours. If what I hope will happen doesn't, we should probably lynch me or EJ, despite both of us likely flipping green.
Wait a second, I didn't agree to this.
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Post Post #8306 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:22 pm

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Una is only town because of the claimed creature result, and creature is not locktown. Based on play alone una would be lowish on my poe, probably around or lower than dave. In fact requiring una to be town is one of the main things making me have doubts about my creature read, altho I have way more issues with bottom of poe than those two.

If Thanos wants BEF to claim he can ask for it.

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Post Post #8307 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:24 pm

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In post 8305, Jingle wrote:
In post 8300, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 8297, Jingle wrote:On last thing before I duck out of the thread for a few hours. If what I hope will happen doesn't, we should probably lynch me or EJ, despite both of us likely flipping green.
Wait a second, I didn't agree to this.
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Post Post #8308 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:30 pm

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In post 8293, Jingle wrote:
In post 8287, DrewVa wrote:There isn’t any need to out all the tprs rn.
Oh, you mean like the two already claimed pseudocops? Or the inventor? Or you? And we've already flipped a scum blocking role, and know about the existence of what is functionally a scum rolestopper, so blocking specific people is an unlikely threat. They have one nightkill, so they can't possibly kill every player that's actively threatening to them, and all of the unclaimed players you're worrying about outing are in the PoE (despite how much you think I should sheep Nancy's blank reads.)
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Force scum to kill us or fuck with the kill again.
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Post Post #8309 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:34 pm

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In post 8308, Nev and Max wrote:Don't forget that we have our protect and are willing to let that go where people feel it helps us best.

Force scum to kill us or fuck with the kill again.
Except if Creature is town then scum may have already decided he was an optimal kill tonight so leashing you would do us absolutely 0 good and tell us nothing if he ends up being the NK

So us holding out because leashing you is some big deal seems like a load of garbage

No worthwhile crumbs, nonsensical night actions, and AtE without solving in response to being pushed for a weak claim does not leave me with any reason to think you are town. You're acting like you're a good nightkill right now for scum when you're not, which reflects the desire you seem to have to be townread for your claim alone which is pretty scum indicative imo

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Post Post #8310 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:35 pm

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Oh hey Nancy's on

I should stop cross-posting with her because people seem to not be able to tell us apart even though I have literally sigged every post except the gifs

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Post Post #8311 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:41 pm

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In post 8309, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8308, Nev and Max wrote:Don't forget that we have our protect and are willing to let that go where people feel it helps us best.

Force scum to kill us or fuck with the kill again.
Except if Creature is town then scum may have already decided he was an optimal kill tonight so leashing you would do us absolutely 0 good and tell us nothing if he ends up being the NK

So us holding out because leashing you is some big deal seems like a load of garbage

No worthwhile crumbs, nonsensical night actions, and AtE without solving in response to being pushed for a weak claim does not leave me with any reason to think you are town. You're acting like you're a good nightkill right now for scum when you're not, which reflects the desire you seem to have to be townread for your claim alone which is pretty scum indicative imo

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I dont crumb, disagree about nonsensical night actions, and scum can choose to kill a claimed doc, or outguess us at this point. Also, a mass claim right now would force scum to prioritize their kills based on who can do the most damage to them.

If we can figure out who has the best chance of finding scum I will be on that person making sure they can do their job. That's my job here, to make sure the right person doesn't die before they do their part. Keep trying to kill the doc, it will look great for you when I flip green.
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Post Post #8312 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:45 pm

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And scum knows I'm town and that I wouldn't lie about my claim. Do you think scum would prioritize a doc over the other roles?

If we go to it being between a certain number of the claimed roles they have to guess which in those we'd be on. Do they risk picking the same person or do they kill outside the group? Do they kill us so that there isn't a question anymore? With charges being passed around there is a chance someone could give us one if they trusted us.

Mislynching us here only serves to promote a scum agenda by taking a protective off the board.
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Post Post #8313 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:47 pm

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In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:Also, a mass claim right now would force scum to prioritize their kills based on who can do the most damage to them.
Yeah, that's my point. Why do you want to make it easy for the scum to figure out where their kills can do the most damage?
In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:If we can figure out who has the best chance of finding scum I will be on that person making sure they can do their job.
why are you asking to be leashed if, from your point of view, one of the players most capable of catching scum is Creature, who you cannot protect? (assuming of course you think Creature is town, which is not universal consensus)

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Post Post #8314 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:50 pm

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In post 8313, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:Also, a mass claim right now would force scum to prioritize their kills based on who can do the most damage to them.
Yeah, that's my point. Why do you want to make it easy for the scum to figure out where their kills can do the most damage?
In post 8311, Nev and Max wrote:If we can figure out who has the best chance of finding scum I will be on that person making sure they can do their job.
why are you asking to be leashed if, from your point of view, one of the players most capable of catching scum is Creature, who you cannot protect? (assuming of course you think Creature is town, which is not universal consensus)

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Scum already has a number of claimed PRs to choose from, they can't kill all of them tonight can they? Last I checked, minus a vig shot or something, they can only Target one person for a kill.

I can't do anything about creature regardless. But of all the claims, you think his is the most valuable?
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Post Post #8315 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:52 pm

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I'd argue that Dave, rce and creature are all on the same level.
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Post Post #8316 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:54 pm

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In post 8254, Xtoxm wrote:Thanos - friendly neighbor
Jingle - commuter
Profii - inventor
Davesaz - invest
UnaBombah - named townie
Elsa Jay - miller
Gamma Emerald - ?
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Post Post #8317 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:56 pm

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btw is there like some link somewhere that actually explains objectively wtf a bunyip is

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Post Post #8318 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:04 pm

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In post 8317, DrewVa wrote:btw is there like some link somewhere that actually explains objectively wtf a bunyip is

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Depends on how he did it this game, the other game I saw it in was like this:

They check is someone is vanilla or not. If they come back vanilla they are bp that night.
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Post Post #8319 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:04 pm

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It’s in boon’s thread in MD. Vanilla Cop that grants BP to vanilla invests.
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Post Post #8320 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:04 pm

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The person investigated becomes BP not the bunyip.
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Post Post #8321 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:07 pm

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I'm not going through his iso to find this out, but did rce ever say who he targeted?

It could have some hand in the no kill...
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Post Post #8322 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:11 pm

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Una N2.
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Post Post #8323 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:12 pm

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In post 8123, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 8088, davesaz wrote:
In post 8087, RCEnigma wrote:Una not vanilla, cheeky not vanilla.

Thought cheeky was stickyfruit vendor after my check.
Have you said which nights?
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In post 8087, RCEnigma wrote:Una not vanilla, cheeky not vanilla.

Thought cheeky was stickyfruit vendor after my check.
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Post Post #8324 (ISO) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:14 pm

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I remember una now, that's where the argument about is a named townie a vanilla role came up.
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