In post 995, Drixx wrote:So here's my concern: In every game where town!Mastina and I played together, and Mastina had some kind of role she believed or wanted to pretend she believed made her more informed ... she clubbed the game up side the head with it.
For example: In our first game together, SMITE, I replaced into a scum slot which had fake claimed 3P. Mastina had a pretty good (but ultimately flawed) plan with a modified goo spreader role. She played this up
to absurdity
in the game thread, and it gave me an opening to use her for cover while I ran with the fake claim I replaced into to a win.
And then there's Steven Universe 1, where we (Cerb and I as Reasonably Rational) were Steven and had the ability to pop IC on day 3. Mastina was a Steven.Friend and was informed she would gain access to a neighborhood with Steven a day earlier, and thus declared in the game thread that she would be IC on said day, because she (wrongly) assumed that the hood would be all good (turned out that a scum was also given that hood).
As a side note/rebuttal:
Mastina and I have played together a LOT. Smite and SU2 are the notable times I was scum (although she and others point to Nahdia's Civilization even though I replaced out due to fatigue/conflict during Night 1). Also been town/town and town/scum with Mastina. Also been a 3rd party faction in a game with Mastina where Cerb and I were in hydra and we had a town compatible win con which we achieved (so we won and town won), but it was through a LOT of deception, so perhaps she thinks of us as scum that game.
Of those games ... Mastina didn't make any posts in the game prior to me killing her in SMITE that noted she believed I was scum. Post game there was a lot of "I would have caught you!" talk but there's no evidence to back that up. I will note that I could not have won the way I did if Mastina had remained in the game: I literally told another player to go look in a specific place for evidence of my guilt. That player (and the rest of the game) assumed I would never point someone to my guilt and basically cleared me for it. Mastina would have looked.
Mastina admitted in SU2 that there was no real reason to believe we were scum (Cerb and me in hydra) and it was a toss up and she would rather lose with us than TO us (and yes: that still sucks all this time later ;p).
So ... to make a very long story short: Mastina is not behaving as expected when having or pretending to have an informed role. There is nowhere near enough decisiveness early and the "I'm informed!" has all but disappeared. While it is technically true that Mastina has treated neighborhoods like masonries in the past ... that's a half truth and I don't think town!Mastina would have even responded ... especially because I made it pretty clear I had an idea what town!Mastina would be doing with a hood and thought it was better not to talk about it.
I suppose it boils down to ... something isn't right about what Mastina is saying and HOW it is being expressed.
As for other thoughts (before I go back through the thread and refresh my notes):
The pace of this game feels really off. I'm not sure what precisely is pinging me so hard but it feels REALLY disjointed. I'm hoping I'll spot some specific people/posts on reread.
A50 is either having a laugh as an informed/scum role or has somehow managed to be over the top nonchalant as town since the last time I played with him as town.
Vedith strikes me as a bad wagon. A combination of going from the wrong slots and NOT going from other slots.
I actually like the Alisae slot at the moment. Sad that Alisae replaced out.
More when I can.
