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Nero Cain · Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:00 pm

I don't have a twitter account.

also

vote:RCE

Nero Cain · Post Post #38 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:19 pm

RC, tell your buddy to stop chainsaw defending you.

Nero Cain · Post Post #40 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:39 pm

proof that he's your scumbuddy b/c you know his name so you guys obviously have a PT!

Nero Cain · Post Post #62 (isolation #3) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:03 pm

At this rate, I'd be surprised if anyone contributes :/

Nero Cain · Post Post #64 (isolation #4) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:24 pm

but I don't really think either of you are scum. Thought about voting Amor earlier but 58 kinda makes sense to me. How ya feeling on RC or do we just want to wagon up a useless lurksack?

Nero Cain · Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:13 pm

I think you are a cute little fluff monkey.

Nero Cain · Post Post #85 (isolation #6) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:02 pm

In post 72, 0verki11 wrote:start yourself then.

*shrugz* I just didn't want to dominate discussion and sometimes I just like to sit back and watch things unfold.

In post 77, RCEnigma wrote:Reasoning for Joges not being scum?

Its a little early for hard reads isn't it? Mostly gut. Think scum might not make a post like 50.

Nero Cain · Post Post #86 (isolation #7) » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:09 pm

In post 73, RCEnigma wrote:Vedith has the only town post this game, change my mind.

Vedith is more likely to make towny sounding posts as scum then as town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #96 (isolation #8) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:48 am

IDK, all I hear is "oh noes you've taken away our mislynch bait." when I read RC and Vediths posts about why no one should town read Jorg.

Nero Cain · Post Post #99 (isolation #9) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:58 am

I gave my reasoning for why I have a gut town read.

You're just like "nope"

All of 88, 92 and 95 just have this "don't town read Jorg vibe"

Nero Cain · Post Post #100 (isolation #10) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:01 am

In post 98, RCEnigma wrote:Overkill would be my mislynch bait if I'm scum and he's town btw.

When you are scum everyone save for yourself and your team is mislynchbait. Your (implied) argument that overkill is your preferred target falls on deaf ears.

Nero Cain · Post Post #102 (isolation #11) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:07 am

other than a mechanical inno/guilty all reads are gut.

Nero Cain · Post Post #104 (isolation #12) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:10 am

scum don't have reads dummy.

Nero Cain · Post Post #105 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:12 am

I mean, maybe in a mb where scum are legitimately hunting the other scum team but in a solo game they already know everyones alignment.

Nero Cain · Post Post #107 (isolation #14) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:20 am

In post 106, BuJaber wrote:Nero gets the "I'm smart" award.

Do you have a read on me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #121 (isolation #15) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:57 am

Why can't jibril just, ya know, town read Joge and think Armor is scum?

Nero Cain · Post Post #122 (isolation #16) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:58 am

In post 116, BuJaber wrote:If it were town figuring out I'd expect them to show off but all they did was pick a side.

RC says we aren't allowed hut reads. Or maybe that's just gut town reads?

Nero Cain · Post Post #154 (isolation #17) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:31 pm

that wasn't talking about this game though there's no reason to suspect a MB game until a unique team flips or we see a second nightkill.

Nero Cain · Post Post #192 (isolation #18) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:35 am

In post 187, Eyes without a face wrote:
In post 180, BuJaber wrote:Seriously let's vote jibril guys. I trust the TMI tell.
Where did he do that? O know I probably should ISO him vs you, but I guess I'm being lazy.

He's saying that when she said "leave Joges alone" she's scum that knows he's town but eh...I'm not really sold.

Nero Cain · Post Post #194 (isolation #19) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:35 am

VOTE: Vedith

Creature (3): Sashaddin, Lycanfire, Amor
Amor (2): joges, Jibril
Sashaddin (2): Creature, Vedith
Jibril (2): RCEnigma, BuJaber
Vedith (2): stan1ey, Nero Cain
joges (1): 0verki11
stan1ey (1): rosterfoster
joges (1): Vedith
Eyes without a face (1): Enigma
Emperor flippyNips (1): Eyes without a face

Nero Cain · Post Post #232 (isolation #20) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:01 pm

none of these wagons interest me. Lets all vote Vedith. Bujabers thing about lynching Jbril to solve in Nero/RC/Veith is really bad thinking or scum that chain/lining up lynches.

Nero Cain · Post Post #233 (isolation #21) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:04 pm

My very early gut/POE thinks scum are in

Vedith
rosterfoster
0verki11
Eyes without a face

I mean, I'm prob wrong but yeah.

Nero Cain · Post Post #234 (isolation #22) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:06 pm

I guess part of me feels like Lycan could be scum but that could be due to unfamiliarity with Creature than a scum agenda.

Nero Cain · Post Post #235 (isolation #23) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:08 pm

pretend RCE was in my list in

233

Nero Cain · Post Post #237 (isolation #24) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:20 pm

In post 220, Sashaddin wrote:I like your last paragraph about Nero.

What did you like about it?

I kinda like overki11 post jorge tunnel. I'd lynch other slots b4 him.

Nero Cain · Post Post #238 (isolation #25) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:24 pm

so maybe my list looks more like.

BuJaber
Eyes without a face
rosterfoster
RCEnigma
Lycanfire
Vedith

Nero Cain · Post Post #256 (isolation #26) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:47 pm

b/c it is

Nero Cain · Post Post #258 (isolation #27) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:59 pm

In post 239, Vedith wrote:Is that order you will lynch?

Does it matter?

also, lol no.

In post 242, Sashaddin wrote:I kinda missed that part of the game and I was happy to see a point that I had missed. The consequences of the lynch vs your possible alignment is something to think of at that moment too.

how did you miss it though, did you like just skip over everything before you posted that evening? I don't really like the "if X flips ____ that means Nero is ____" precedent that you and Buj are pushing. Like I get that people can make the argument that so and so is town for voting/lynching scum and so and so scum for lynching town but that line of thinking is so narrow and B&W.

Nero Cain · Post Post #260 (isolation #28) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:00 pm

In post 257, RCEnigma wrote:I'm fine voting
jibril
town or
eyes
my goon today.

FIFY!

Nero Cain · Post Post #262 (isolation #29) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:03 pm

What made you scumread me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #266 (isolation #30) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:06 pm

In post 249, Eyes without a face wrote:That would be playing against your win con and is probably a ban-able offense if I understand the rules right.

scum can bus with reckless abandon. I think it's hard to prove that scum wasn't bussing or that town was just bad instead of playing like shit to improve your scum meta.

Nero Cain · Post Post #267 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:23 pm

In post 264, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 262, Nero Cain wrote:What made you scumread me?
I'm scum, why does my read matter to you?

Just b/c I think you're scummy doesn't mean that I'm right.

In post 261, RCEnigma wrote:Ty, I was waffling with my read on you. I almost thought you were town.

You're basically calling me scum here. I'm not but your job as town is to try to get who you think is scum lynched and you need to try to influence the town that you are right. Saying that you aren't town reading me and then when asked why is A.) Childish B.) a possible lie C. claiming that you are scum. D. bad town play

I guess A and D and B and C all go together. I voted you earlier b/c I felt like your hyper posting entrance trying to be friendly with the all the players was buddying and like overcompensating for lack of a town pm. I didn't feel

THAT

strongly you were scum but now I just sorta want to lynch you regardless of alignment.

Nero Cain · Post Post #269 (isolation #32) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:28 pm

how very detailed.

Nero Cain · Post Post #288 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:31 pm

In post 278, RCEnigma wrote:The RC/Vedith story is pushing an untrue narrative to see if it sticks

naw, you guys were totally trying to keep a town read away from Joges.

In post 278, RCEnigma wrote:The continued shade on my posts despite you "not scumreading me that much"

Either I didn't communicate very well or this is totally misrepping b/c I said didn't as in past tense. When I voted you early game I didn't so I didn't push you very much. I am flat out scumreading you now.

Nero Cain · Post Post #289 (isolation #34) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:56 pm

In post 287, BuJaber wrote:@Nero - what makes it bad thinking? If you have a blanket policy to reject such trains of thought because it's not your style then that doesn't mean I'm wrong. What is bad about my thinking in this specifoc instance.

Well firstly, Armor didn't even scumread Joges so ummm...doesn't that invalidate your whole thing then?

It's also just kinda convoluted.

How do you feel about RCE and Vedith now?

Nero Cain · Post Post #291 (isolation #35) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:14 pm

In post 267, Nero Cain wrote:I voted you earlier b/c I felt like your hyper posting entrance trying to be friendly with the all the players was buddying and like overcompensating for lack of a town pm. I didn't feel THAT strongly you were scum

I am CLEARLY talking about when I voted you earlier but sure play revisionist.

Nero Cain · Post Post #292 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:15 pm

In post 267, Nero Cain wrote:but now I just sorta want to lynch you regardless of alignment.

here's the rest of that sentence talking about how I feel about you now.

Nero Cain · Post Post #293 (isolation #37) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:17 pm

In post 238, Nero Cain wrote:so maybe my list looks more like.

BuJaber
Eyes without a face
rosterfoster

RCEnigma

Lycanfire
Vedith

and here I am speculating that you are scum. This was b4 you EVER called me scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #312 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:31 pm

there's that Vedith wagon, why don't you want to vote there?

Nero Cain · Post Post #315 (isolation #39) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:46 pm

In post 307, BuJaber wrote:It's still a little weird to me that joges was pushing this "either me or amor" thing

I don't think this was what happened. I'm not going to go into my feelings on this as to not give a potential out to Joges.

In post 307, BuJaber wrote:amor didn't react to him at all.

eh. Sometimes scum does this it's true. I've pushed this with mixed results. Sometimes town are just bad and useless and seem to not really care that much.

In post 307, BuJaber wrote:It's weird that jibril went ahead and picked one of those to vote.

eh.....obviously you are saying that her vote was opportunistic and maybe? But I mean, why can't she just be town that scum read the guy?

In post 307, BuJaber wrote:If yes, do new players only roll town?

this is dumb and manipulative.

The reason I and later overki11 town read her is b/c her play is way different than her recently completed scum game. Could she still be scum and just be lazy this game? Could she have a p solid scum game so she could fall back on a "well this isn't like my scum game" defense? Sure to both. And even though I think you are scummy-if you are town I don't really fault you for finding a somewhat useless slot scummy.

I just don't think she's a great lynch today.

In post 307, BuJaber wrote:Either noob scum or bad town.

this should make her a p solid vote then, yes?

Nero Cain · Post Post #316 (isolation #40) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:49 pm

In post 314, Enigma wrote:if vedith flips red can we lynch eyes pls?

I'd vote eyes anyways since his "Vedith says Lycan is scum, so I'm going to vote there." seems ass-backward. If he thinks Vedith is scum shouldn't he be lynching her first?

Nero Cain · Post Post #318 (isolation #41) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:06 am

pls self vote

Nero Cain · Post Post #320 (isolation #42) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:14 am

go ahead and fakeclaim then.

Nero Cain · Post Post #362 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:16 pm

In post 345, Eyes without a face wrote:Why lynch the chicken that lays us golden eggs? The guy said he'll give us a scum a day, so I played along.

It's A GOOSE! LEARN UR NURSERY RYMES!

Firstly, trusting scum is kinda dumb. I mean, yeah sure, scum have been known to tell the truth b/c its WIFOM but its already have the scum team.

Yes, I "slipped". I think 5 scum is too many and 3 scum is too small. 4 is that sweet spot.

In post 357, Emperor flippyNips wrote:OMGUS voted me after I said that she’s scum

She never voted you man.

Nero Cain · Post Post #363 (isolation #44) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:34 pm

I mean, she did call you scum and eh.

I'm confused though.

In post 351, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Some one bust out a better one likkkkeeeee jibril or eyes

In post 357, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I’m fine with her not being D1 Lynch tho

Nero Cain · Post Post #365 (isolation #45) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:37 pm

jbril, vote Vedith.

Nero Cain · Post Post #366 (isolation #46) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:43 pm

In post 348, Sashaddin wrote:I'm still trying to know how many scums are in this duet to try to vote smartly

how does know how many scum are here help you "vote smartly"?

Nero Cain · Post Post #368 (isolation #47) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:50 pm

In post 367, Jibril wrote:sir.

I like your manners.

Is Bujabber and Emporer? your guess at scum? who else? What's your read on me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #377 (isolation #48) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:30 pm

eh

VOTE: eyes

Nero Cain · Post Post #378 (isolation #49) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:51 pm

In post 374, Sashaddin wrote:Scum vs Scum unlikely
Scum vs Town probable
Town vs town probable

If 1, then I'll sheep the wagon with the most votes on it already.
If 2, I vote who I think is scum
If 3, I take extra care of my next move and think about it a little longer

I don't think there's anyways to say which is or isn't the most/least likely. In a way I guess you could argue that OR says this is TvT since there are going to be more town than scum in any decent setup and thus more town will argue against themselves. So I guess it ultimately boils down to your reads on Roster and Vedith and you obviously find Rooster scum and/or town read Vedith or you are scum with or you are scum that's chainsaw defending Vedith.

Also, a daily reminder that RCE is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #458 (isolation #50) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:06 pm

In post 457, Vedith wrote:
In post 456, Amor wrote:Six days is a lot of time. Seems weird to be demanding a claim from a guy you think is town.

not sure if I want to vomit that I'm on the same page with Vedit or thank the mafia God that something resembling a pro-town mindset is coming from that black hole.

Nero Cain · Post Post #459 (isolation #51) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:36 pm

In post 386, BuJaber wrote:but if bad town why would it be good?

b/c lynching distractions can be a really good thing. Inb4 Vedith and Bujaberuse this to argue that I'm town reading Vedith. I'm not, I'm just saying that if she's town she's just a distraction.

In post 420, Lycanfire wrote:You claimed you didn't care about any of the early wagons (notably Creature|Amor|Sashaddin). Why?

b/c I didn't? Wasn't a fan of your Creature case and I bought Amor joke attempt? Don't really remember much about why I didn't really care much about Sass.

In post 421, Lycanfire wrote:Btw... I never got an answer to the TMI tell.

I am fairly certain I did this though it may not have been directed at you. TMI is too much information. They are saying that jbril is scum that knows Joges is town.

Hey Eyes, could you explain your reasoning for why you went from "Vedith is scum. And she's telling me who her buddy is so I'll vote him." to "Vedith is town"

Nero Cain · Post Post #468 (isolation #52) » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:44 pm

In post 466, stan1ey wrote:Bujaber is town

i want to hear this.

Nero Cain · Post Post #512 (isolation #53) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:07 pm

I have been...very lazy lately so I'm going to pull a Creature and make a string of posts but mine'll actually have content in them.

Nero Cain · Post Post #515 (isolation #54) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:13 pm

In post 514, Amor wrote:So wait, are you saying the guy who said he was scum is trolling?

I mean its WIFOM. Scum have claimed scum b4 but it does come from dumb town that think they are more important than they really are.

Nero Cain · Post Post #519 (isolation #55) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:28 pm

I still dislike Bujaber. These are my two games with him. He was scum in one and town in one. I forget wich game but in one of them he did the same "we need to lynch X to tell us about Y" so he's likely the same alignment as he was in whichever game he did that in.

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Nero Cain · Post Post #520 (isolation #56) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:40 pm

In post 129, Eyes without a face wrote:Also, no RVS bc I can't be bothered counting the votes myself and I don't want to accidentally put someone in lynching range without even knowing it.

this was the first thing that made me

eyes.

Didn't really like his Emperor vote and thought his Lycan vote was dumb but I agree that his wagon going so fast worries me a bit.

unvote

Nero Cain · Post Post #521 (isolation #57) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:46 pm

At least Vedith is defending himself this game but I am always going to vote him over rooster.

Nero Cain · Post Post #523 (isolation #58) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Are you gonna catchup?

Nero Cain · Post Post #569 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:05 pm

VOTE: RCE

Nero Cain · Post Post #570 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:40 pm

In post 546, BuJaber wrote:Okay Nero if my memory serves me right you scumread me in both those games. You scumreading me might be +town at this point unless you're specifically using that to imitate your town game which would be weird and unnecessary.

ummm ok...? I mean, I'm going to always call out suspicious behavior. And you actually were scum in one of those games so my track record is 1-1. I did call you scum in this game b/c the whole "we need to lynch these slots to tell us about these slots." is convoluted and very chain lynchy which I think could easily come from scum. It also makes a ton of sense FMPOV as scum with RCE/Vedith but I'm just saying that your alignment is prob the same in whichever game of ours that you used the same logic.

So talk to me about Jibril man... why am I wrong in your opinion?

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Firstly, you have to read into her statement to get that. She's not exactly helping matters by not clarifying her statement and just kinda floating around the thread. I was also umm, meta town reading her, but ummm, I just looked in her topics list to link the game and it's not there. Did I just click on a game and saw a username like hers, did the tigers eat it (I don't think anyone will get that.) With this revelation, I'm more open to thinking she could be scum but I'm still not all that certain b.c there are plenty of town that are "scummy" kinda tight-lipped and unhelpful.

Nero Cain · Post Post #571 (isolation #61) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:41 pm

@Sashaddin

-Are you an alt?

Nero Cain · Post Post #577 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:56 pm

In post 574, RCEnigma wrote:What's my scum meta like Nero?

Doesn't seem all that different from OK where you just kinda randomly wagoned players and didn't hunt. I've never played with a mafia you though.

Nero Cain · Post Post #578 (isolation #63) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:58 pm

^
RCE trying to setup an "i'm town b/c meta" argument

Nero Cain · Post Post #581 (isolation #64) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:06 pm

third party is still scum silly.

Nero Cain · Post Post #583 (isolation #65) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:07 pm

hence

In post 577, Nero Cain wrote:I've never played with a mafia you though.

Nero Cain · Post Post #586 (isolation #66) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:09 pm

Why is this my scum game and not my town game then?

Nero Cain · Post Post #588 (isolation #67) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:14 pm

"ur game is scummy"

stop lying and admit that you just OMGUSed me. If you are town you might actully think that I'm scummy but you never called me scummy until I said you were scummy.

Also, I have a 1-1 record against you so I've misread you once.

Nero Cain · Post Post #591 (isolation #68) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:23 pm

I mean my sole reason for thinking jibril was town was meta that was incorrect, why should I, as town, not fix my mistake here? She's null at best and I'd vote a bunch of other slots before her.

Also, if you think that I've only been pushing and sorting you and Buj then you clearly aren't reading the game.

Nero Cain · Post Post #592 (isolation #69) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:24 pm

In post 590, RCEnigma wrote:Why would I omgus only you over any other slot calling me scum?

Who else is calling you scum? Feels like most ppl are ignoring you.

Nero Cain · Post Post #599 (isolation #70) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:35 pm

I'm not town reading Vedith. WTF?!?

Nero Cain · Post Post #600 (isolation #71) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:35 pm

*you're

Nero Cain · Post Post #606 (isolation #72) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:43 pm

I think Sash is scum pending something.

Nero Cain · Post Post #607 (isolation #73) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:43 pm

errr town

Nero Cain · Post Post #608 (isolation #74) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:44 pm

4...

3...

2...

"Nero just slipped that he's scum with Sash!"

RC is so predictable.

Nero Cain · Post Post #609 (isolation #75) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:47 pm

In post 71, RCEnigma wrote:Sounds good to me VOTE: Bujaber

go with the flow

In post 73, RCEnigma wrote:Vedith has the only town post this game, change my mind.

buddying

In post 96, Nero Cain wrote:IDK, all I hear is "oh noes you've taken away our mislynch bait." when I read RC and Vediths posts about why no one should town read Jorg.

Still how I feel. Though lately, I've started to wonder if this is RCscum that knows ppl are misreading his buddy.

In post 384, RCEnigma wrote:Vedith still town, down for eyes though VOTE: eyes

go with the flow vote

RC seems to not really be hunting and his votes are on pretty much popular scum reads. His sole original thought seems to be on Stan1ey and I guess overkill.

Nero Cain · Post Post #613 (isolation #76) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:51 pm

the grunge between me and RC or why Sash is town?

Nero Cain · Post Post #616 (isolation #77) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:53 pm

god, let's hope RCE plays better in newbies.

Nero Cain · Post Post #618 (isolation #78) » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:57 pm

pls don't drink.

Nero Cain · Post Post #638 (isolation #79) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:00 am

Why is his read good but you don't know why? or if you agree that Sash is town why do you care about his reasoning?

but I too think Sash is town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #639 (isolation #80) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:15 am

VOTE: Vedith

Vedith (4): BuJaber, rosterfoster, profii, Nero Cain
Eyes without a face (3): stan1ey, Enigma, Amor
rosterfoster (2): Vedith, Eyes without a face
Jibril (2): Emperor flippyNips, RCEnigma
Creature (1): Lycanfire
Emperor flippyNips (1): Jibril
Sashaddin (1): joges
joges (1): 0verki11

not voting (2): Sashaddin, Creature

Sash and Creature need to vote and all these vanity wagons need to go.

Nero Cain · Post Post #641 (isolation #81) » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:45 am

I mean maybe. I haven't really liked him since he got back from V/la and in hindsight its funky that RC was questioning the town reads on him but not even scum reading Joges. I'm just saying that with 3 days its prob time to think about consolidation and I doubt that a Joges wagon happens.

Nero Cain · Post Post #697 (isolation #82) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:57 pm

I mean I guess you could read Armors post like that if you wanted but I read it as more newb town that was glad we aren't lynching anyone that was useful.

Nero Cain · Post Post #699 (isolation #83) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:04 pm

Its a statement, not anger.

Nero Cain · Post Post #701 (isolation #84) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:08 pm

Vedith (3): BuJaber, Nero Cain, Amor
Eyes without a face (2): stan1ey, Enigma
Jibril (2): Emperor flippyNips, RCEnigma
Creature (2): Lycanfire, Eyes without a face
rosterfoster (1): Vedith
Amor (1): profii
Emperor flippyNips (1): Jibril
Sashaddin (1): joges
joges (1): 0verki11
stan1ey (1): rosterfoster

not voting (2): Sashaddin, Creature

kinda sad with 2.5 days to go.

Nero Cain · Post Post #705 (isolation #85) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:17 pm

In post 702, Vedith wrote:People I won't vote.

Eyes, Jibril, Nero, Lycan.

never said you won't vote yourself!

Nero Cain · Post Post #707 (isolation #86) » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:28 pm

I think you are a p solid and safe lynch. You are a claimed VT so if you do end up being a ML then we aren't losing anything. Your singular scum"hunting" doesn't seem very protown to me.

Nero Cain · Post Post #777 (isolation #87) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 am

I mean, Jibril is just sort of null for me. Its ez to argue that non-impactful slot is scum but that non-specific PR claim is a play I could see scum making.

I'll hammer b4 I need to leave (14 mins)

Nero Cain · Post Post #778 (isolation #88) » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:51 am

or if you guys want the extra time I can not hammer and someone else can later.

(9 mins)

Nero Cain · Post Post #802 (isolation #89) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:33 am

In post 789, BuJaber wrote:Nero have you played with jibril before?

no

Nero Cain · Post Post #803 (isolation #90) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:35 am

VOTE: RCE

Nero Cain · Post Post #807 (isolation #91) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:37 pm

Vedith basically claimed TPR by saying that he WASN'T a vt. That's why he was killed. Lets vote RCE who did no scumhunting and vote sat on town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #810 (isolation #92) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:47 pm

We've been over this ad nauseam and its starting to look a hellva lot like fake scum hunting. I didn't think your reasoning for voting her (TMI "tell") was all that impressive.

In post 570, Nero Cain wrote:I was also umm, meta town reading her, but ummm, I just looked in her topics list to link the game and it's not there

In post 591, Nero Cain wrote:I mean my sole reason for thinking jibril was town was meta that was incorrect, why should I, as town, not fix my mistake here? She's null at best and I'd vote a bunch of other slots before her.

In post 777, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, Jibril is just sort of null for me. Its ez to argue that non-impactful slot is scum but that non-specific PR claim is a play I could see scum making.

So why exactly are you asking me about something that we've already been over than you could have found the answer in my ISO?

Nero Cain · Post Post #811 (isolation #93) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:48 pm

follow up: you got your pet lynch and Vedith also fliped town so what does this say about me, Joges and RCE?

Nero Cain · Post Post #813 (isolation #94) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:24 pm

Vedith is one of those players that only cares about winning as scum so they play suboptimally as town so they look better as scum. Can we move on now?

Who do you guys want to lynch?

I'd like to hear ppl talk about RCE.

Nero Cain · Post Post #852 (isolation #95) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:54 pm

In post 815, BuJaber wrote:And your ISO is the confusing part.. you said your townread was influenced by a false meta read but you haven't played with her.

What I'm concerned with is when I was one of only a few people willing to vote her you townread her but then when more people agreed and voted you began to change your mind. Did I get this part wrong also?

yes. Honestly, this is starting to look like feigned ignorance and not real ignorance. Just b/c you aren't in a game doesn't mean you can't read a game and meta off of it. I made a mistake, i thought I read a game of Jilbril where her play was VASTLY different and thus I town read her. When Stan pointed out that she had only played in that mini and I couldn't find the large that I thought was hers I noticed my mistake and retracted my town read. This was discussed yesterday. Stop asking about d1 stuff and move on or is there some reason you don't want to?

Nero Cain · Post Post #860 (isolation #96) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:03 pm

In post 821, RCEnigma wrote:The slots that leaves are {creature, sashaddin, Profii, overkill, Stanley}

the only one that interests me here is Creature, I keep forgetting he's in the game.

Nero Cain · Post Post #862 (isolation #97) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:06 pm

In post 821, RCEnigma wrote:Profii pings me for the nightkill, it's one he goes for as scum imo

how so?

In post 821, RCEnigma wrote:I kind of have to defend my slot from the big bad Nero today though so I guess I'll get invested a bit more.

sorry mate, you played like trash yesterday although my garbage is actually prettier than your ISO so...

Nero Cain · Post Post #864 (isolation #98) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:08 pm

Any thoughts on the lynch today, Axel?

Nero Cain · Post Post #865 (isolation #99) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:09 pm

In post 861, 0verki11 wrote:just lynch RCE or Joges ez

I'm already on RC and Joges has fallen out of my town reads.

Nero Cain · Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:13 pm

In post 866, Lycanfire wrote:people that thought vedith wasn't going to happen being people more likely to know things they shouldn't.

???

Nero Cain · Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:16 pm

ok yeah that makes sense

Nero Cain · Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:16 pm

y did you voyr Jibril?

Nero Cain · Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:56 pm

In post 873, Enigma wrote:I was wondering if you went lurky after that pick up because you didn't post after vedith's not vt post ... but you didn't post anywhere on the site and were v/la so can't read much out of that.

Why would it have mattered?

What are your thoughts on RCE?

Nero Cain · Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:09 am

you don't think scum can tunnel?

Nero Cain · Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:37 am

Why would I ever change my story? As scum, I'd know I could b/c it would elict too much scrutiny and as town I'd never lie in the first place. Are you just fishing for me t0 "slip" or something?

Can you go more into your thoughts on me and RCE besides "you guys aren't the same alignment but I don't want to mislynch there."?

Nero Cain · Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:41 am

In post 881, Enigma wrote:they can but why push that hard when they game was a useless cesspool of confusion yesterday with townies both being the (mis)lynch targets
yeh wifom but meh

I could see him pushing for a Jibril lynch if Joges is scum and he just wanted a threat to his team lynched. I could also see him just sitting on a p EZ mislynch and calling it a day.

Nero Cain · Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:59 am

In post 885, BuJaber wrote:I get this vibe that you're trying to bully me into scumreading RCE though which bothers me

I mean you just said you think we are different alignments so you do think one of us is scum, yes? If it's me I'd like to hear why. I do think RCE is a bit scummy, yes and I could be right and I could be wrong. No one is really talking about him so I'm asking others opinions.

Nero Cain · Post Post #895 (isolation #108) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:03 am

VOTE: creatures pussy

Nero Cain · Post Post #897 (isolation #109) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:10 am

Nero Cain · Post Post #903 (isolation #110) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:13 am

OH SHIT! inappropriate contact with a minor. See you guys after the ban.

Nero Cain · Post Post #910 (isolation #111) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:32 am

In post 900, BuJaber wrote:I'm saying there's one scum between you and I dunno who, not there's one scum between you but I'm keeping it to myself.

oh ok, so you are scum reading me and not necessarily RCE despite saying "I'm trying to figure out who the scum between you two" and "you two are different alignments." I'm confused.

In post 900, BuJaber wrote:Biggest thing I was scumreading was the jibril townread early on that you later changed your mind on. I know you feel like you've explained why, but it doesn't make it less scummy.

What's my motivation here?

Nero Cain · Post Post #914 (isolation #112) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:41 am

In post 905, BuJaber wrote:nero picked up on that even though it was subtle. He's either scum very interested in people's reads on joges or town sorting through the bs.

or and this is where my original thought process was...

Vedith and RCE saw an outpouring of "Joges is town" and tried to fight the wave and keep Joges lynchable.

of course, Vedith flipped town so we know he wasn't but I think RCE still could have.

I've also seen scum question people who are misreading their buddy and that's another thing that could have happened.

Nero Cain · Post Post #916 (isolation #113) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:49 am

In post 911, RCEnigma wrote:Nero making it an issue is what made me think Joges could be scum with Nero.

You asked and I gave my answer why I was town reading him. Then you spent 2 more posts questioning ppls Joges town reads. You seemed very interested in ppl town reading Joges and it seemed like you didn't want ppl to town read him.

Also, pretty convenient that you starting thinking I was scum after I called you out.

Nero Cain · Post Post #918 (isolation #114) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:57 am

In post 911, RCEnigma wrote:This is again blown out of proportion, "don't townread Joges"
was only Neros interpretation
of us questioning vague reads on Joges.

It was Buj's too. And I think lycan might have said something too but no one understands half of what he says.

Nero Cain · Post Post #925 (isolation #115) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:11 am

thanks for letting us know that your team has a strongman.

Nero Cain · Post Post #928 (isolation #116) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:13 am

but its so funny to mess with you.

Nero Cain · Post Post #930 (isolation #117) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:15 am

In post 919, BuJaber wrote:
In post 910, Nero Cain wrote:What's my motivation here?
Shading people on the wagon while dispelling any TMI tell against you?

You don't see that that's a possible scum move?

Exactly how does me mistakenly reading someone as town and then noticing that there was no evidence to support my position shade anyone? I've heard that the key to successfully arguing is to never admit fault but I like to keep things honest. I could theoretically scum read someone for scum reading Jibril but I don't think I ever did that.

Nero Cain · Post Post #933 (isolation #118) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:27 am

Yes, I've talked about no one other than RCE in 100+ posts. like really?

In post 932, BuJaber wrote:The shading would come post-flip of course.

but it didn't happen. I saw my mistake and corrected it. So how is it scummy again?

Nero Cain · Post Post #935 (isolation #119) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:48 am

So you're basically saying that I'm scummy no matter what b/c I didn't jump at your TMI case and mistakenly town reading her and the only reason you aren't voting me is b/c I caught my mistake and didn't blame others for scum reading her. Correct?

Although, you do know that there practically has to be scum on the wagon unless you think that was an all town wagon and all the scum didn't vote her. So do I get scumread if I think ppl are scummy for scum reading her b/c that's kinda the impression I got. What about others?

Nero Cain · Post Post #936 (isolation #120) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:50 am

Fun fact: so far RCE has called me scum with both Joges and Jibril.

Nero Cain · Post Post #938 (isolation #121) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:07 am

I was null reading her when I noticed my mistake but I also didn't feel like your TMI case was impressive.

Could you, as scum, throw shade at me for not wanting Jibril till the very end? What makes me more suspicious than other non-Jibril voters?

Nero Cain · Post Post #941 (isolation #122) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:15 am

FOE list but that doesn't work in games or you could just you know, not sign up in games I'm in. Not sure why you have your panties in a wad. Its a game, I'm playing the game. It's nothing personal.

Nero Cain · Post Post #943 (isolation #123) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:25 am

or maybe its just some

ATE

designed to get ppl to not want to vote you b/c you are claiming that I'm bullying you or something. IDK

Nero Cain · Post Post #954 (isolation #124) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:41 am

you're right, town shouldn't but they still do it. :/

Nero Cain · Post Post #956 (isolation #125) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:20 am

I'm not calling you scum, no.

Nero Cain · Post Post #961 (isolation #126) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:12 pm

In post 959, BuJaber wrote:How are you so sure?

That's really not the direction of the conversation and it feels pretty misreppy on your part. He said he was WIFOMing mafia by claiming mason. He then said that he was waiting on someone to invoke LAL b/c town should try to be all WIFOMy and confusing. I'm agreeing that they shouldn't. Like I get that gambits and the like have sometimes paid off but more times than not they've failed or had no impact or you know, actually confuse and harm the town. But all that is just game theory and doesn't have that much bearing on the game. He then puffed up his chest and got all ready to defend himself when I guess he thought I was calling him scum and I clarified that I wasn't so...

Are you scum reading him for that? If you aren't then why is it not ok with you that I wasn't?

Nero Cain · Post Post #962 (isolation #127) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:14 pm

oh, you're voting him so of course, you think he's scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #963 (isolation #128) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:24 pm

In post 880, BuJaber wrote:Because I want to know which of you / RCE is scum

In post 815, BuJaber wrote:I think you and RCE are opposite alignments.

I think these posts and Buj scum reading me just enough that I leapfrog over RC makes me think Buj and RC are buddies. It's your classic "lynch town/bus buddy."

So my solve right now is maybe like a

Buj
RCE
Proffi
stan1ey

Nero Cain · Post Post #964 (isolation #129) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:27 pm

oh yeah

VOTE: RCE

Nero Cain · Post Post #969 (isolation #130) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:42 pm

Did you ever give your thoughts on RCE?

Nero Cain · Post Post #970 (isolation #131) » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:18 pm

[*]

BuJabe

r-thinks one of me and RCE is scum, but doesn't want to lynch either of us.
[*]

Nero Cain

-thinks RCE is scum
[*]

0verki11

-thinks RCE is scum
[*]

Enigma

-null, doesn't tr him but doesn't think he'd tunnel Jibril as scum.
[*]

stan1ey

-"suspicious" of RCE
[*]

Amor

-hasn't really talked about him but did say that he disliked 931
[*]

Creature

-town
[*]

Sashaddin

-leaning town
[*]

Emperor flippyNips

-says he'll read later
[*]

joges

-hasn't talked about him
[*]

Eyes without a face

-hasn't talked about him but doesn't think I'm scum with him. Like duh?
[*]

rosterfoster

-hasn't talked about him
[*]

Lycanfire

-hasn't talked about him
[*]

profii

-hasn't talked about him

Nero Cain · Post Post #975 (isolation #132) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:06 am

In post 971, BuJaber wrote:Like what makes you think it's a town!overkill gambit, not a scum!overkill gambit.

Why is it a scum gambit and not a town one? Going "oh he lied about his role, so he must be scum!" seems incredibly shallow. If both alignments gambit isn't it just null behavior? I do agree with you on the "horribly LAMIST" but eh, sometimes ppl are just full of themselves.

What would help you sort me and RCE?

Nero Cain · Post Post #978 (isolation #133) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:38 am

What context am I avoiding? I'm answering his question with a question if you want to call that avoiding then fin but he's asking me whether I think its a scum gambit or a town gambit and my judgement call is that its more likely to be a town gambit than a scum one just like he's making the same judgment call and calling it a scum gambit.

Nero Cain · Post Post #979 (isolation #134) » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:43 am

Why aren't you voting anyone?

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:20 pm

In post 1002, Eyes without a face wrote:I see lots of talk but little production. You're all repeating the same arguments against each other and it boils down to "this is how I feel but I have no evidence" which isn't helping me much.

I even asked BuJ & Enigma questions and they didn't respond. Well, BuJ didn't and Enigma didn't post since.

I think I should have stayed in mini games because I suspect the larger numbers are confusing me but I am already here so I will try my best and if it doesn't work then I will refrain from joining large games in the future.

naw. This game only has 4 more players than a mini. I think your problem here is that alot of those slots are saying little or nothing and it makes it hard. I also think that you aren't terribly active and that's maybe having an effect. As an example, I've asked how you feel about RCE. You've said that me and him aren't scum together and I think that's a given but I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on the slot.

Getting a hard guilty or useful night information is semi-rare and this game is more about feelings at least IMO. Who do you even think is scum and why?

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:33 pm

In post 983, BuJaber wrote:Because the gambit helps scum more than town I'm inclined to believe it comes from scum.

Really?!?

He's a lol claimed mason. Firstly, he has to claim with someone and he can't claim with any town b/c they know he's lying. Secondly, even if he did claim with a scumbuddy town are going to start questioning why 2 masons are still alive and are

MORE

likely to get lynched. If he hard commits to a mason gambit with a scumbuddy he's not making it to endgame, bro.

In post 983, BuJaber wrote:I am less sure of my original assumption that one of you has to be scum.

Well, we all knew that as soon as I flipped town RCE would get power lynched, if he's not getting lynched today. So the way I see this through my blurry tunnel vision is you just backing away from ever voting RCE.

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 pm

In post 980, RCEnigma wrote:Nero I don't think it helps read me but I want to see what you think since you were the one to bring Vedith's claim up. I have a theory but I want to know what you think about the way slots interacted with Vedith before and after the post he claimed in. You can get back to tunneling me after that.

Why does it matter what I think? This just seems like giving me busy work and if I don't want to do busy work you'll accuse me of avoiding the question. But I guess its an interesting line of inquiry. I assume that you are saying that after she claimed not VT scum were more likely to back off and eh maybe but why do you need me to do this and not yourself?

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:43 pm

Also, is it really that hard to wrap post #'s in post tags? @ RCE

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:46 pm

In post 998, stan1ey wrote:Alright fair enough
VOTE: flippy
I still think youre mafia

get back on RCE, brother.

Also, free town reads to anyone that vigs Creature.

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:52 pm

If you are town and thus know you are town and we know that Jibril was town it's not meritless that you'd think that a voter from both wagons are scum.

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:58 pm

In post 1009, Eyes without a face wrote:The problem is the intersection thing assumes scum on me also voted Jibril
which isn't necessarily true
,

Wich is correct. I mean there's not going to be a ton of "evidence" so it eventually boils down to "I don't like these guys posts and I think they come from scum b/c ____."

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:18 pm

I'm kinda thinking RCE/Proffi/Buj/Creature team

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:24 pm

In post 1014, Eyes without a face wrote:So, you think I should vote joges even though I lack the strong conviction?

you lack a strong conviction on everyone so...

In post 1014, Eyes without a face wrote:I'll narrow it down .. joges or Amor?

Why not RCE? Can you at least talk about how you feel about RCE?

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:49 pm

In post 1016, Eyes without a face wrote:All 3 on that pool are on the same level to me.

Then why vote someone else when you could have voted one of your scumreads with an established wagon?

In post 1016, Eyes without a face wrote:and dismissed your reasoning

TBF I actually said

In post 85, Nero Cain wrote:Think scum might not make a post like 50.

but I guess just ignoring that and saying that I was gut town reading him is easier to blame me if Joges does flip town.

"U WERE GUT TOWN READING SOMEONE WITHOUT REASON U MUST B SCUM THAT KNEW HE WUZ TOWN!"

Though all reads that are not mechanical are gut reads anyways.

In post 1016, Eyes without a face wrote:Or when he parked his vote on Jibril for 5 real days, then switched to me for like 3 days then went back to Jibril.

What's not to get here? He's either town with bad reads or scum that vote sat on town.

In post 1016, Eyes without a face wrote:I also dpn't get what revenge of Shattiel is,

Shattiel is a player on this site. So I assumed that "revenge of Shattiel" is maybe a reference to a game where Shattiel claimed mason.

In post 1016, Eyes without a face wrote:and his reasoning to suspect profii shot Vedith don't make sense to me

I agree with you and I think/thought that might be a lil' scum distancing. Like, it's completely random but if you say well they are both scum and Profii was sent to carry out the kill last night so it makes sense for RC to "think" this b/c he actually KNOWS this.

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:20 pm

In post 1029, Eyes without a face wrote:What's wrong with voting joges? Why does everybody seem to want me off him and on someone else?

nothing I guess. Joges being active lurking scum isn't some horrible position to take. I just thought you'd vote RCE who you are also scum reading (I think) and there are others calling him scum.

In post 1031, BuJaber wrote:No actually you keep ignoring his first post. He said "town will lose if I get lynched". THAT part is the claim.

So he's scum

Ate

ing or town that's full of themselves. It's still null at best to me.

In post 944, Eyes without a face wrote:How can you tell if 2 people are different alignments? Town always fight with town too, so I think it more accurate to say they're not scum together.

How does this make you less sure that there's scum between RC and I?

Nero Cain · Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:04 pm

town literally gambit all the time. Am I saying that you should always town read gambiters and fakeclaimers? no, of course not. Personally, I feel like your "OMG, HE SAID TOWN WILL LOSE IF HE GETS LYNCHED! SO HE MUST BE SCUM!" seems pretty weak. And what if he's telling the truth, why would you want town to lose by lynching him?

He doesn't seem interested in this game or that you want him lynched. He seems to care mostly that I'm disagreeing with him that its super duper good town play to gambit.

In post 955, 0verki11 wrote:
In post 954, Nero Cain wrote:you're right, town shouldn't but they still do it. :/
haha this better be sarcasm

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:40 am

In post 1037, 0verki11 wrote:plus hes town so whatever.

I'm not so sold. Like his first "we need to lynch in these slots to tell us about all these slots" just seemed like some overly complex chain lynching. And his whole "one of Nero and RCE are scum" and his later "but eyes telling me that town fight all the time totally made me change my mind!" seems so much like possible buddy play, idk. I know that I argued earlier that he likely shared the same alignment as whatever game he did a similar chain lynchy post and Lychan says town and eh..I might just default to that but man I'm paranoid. He's either bussing RCE or he's just town that's seen the light. I could always be wrong though which is

In post 1056, Lycanfire wrote:807 was an attractive post up until I found the fingers on my left hand and realize there's too many people to be all scum.

Is this saying that there were several others who fit the same description of "not scumhunting and vote parking on town."? Who were they?

In post 1056, Lycanfire wrote:In what way was Jibril a threat to a Joges+RCEnigma team in particular?

I'd argue that any town voting scum is at least a minor threat so yeah....

In post 1059, stan1ey wrote:
In post 1053, Eyes without a face wrote:@stanL my question was why NOW? Why did you vote RCE soon after BuJaber did? Why didn't you vote him before?
You can consider my vote on both if u want buddy, I'm not fussed which one gets lynched

Eyes, you know that Stan WAS voting RCE before, right?

In post 1061, Sashaddin wrote:Find a towny guy you trust and sheep him.

Are you doing that this game?

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:33 am

Well, aren't you? You 2 both want Joges dead and I don't really fault either of you for thinking he's active lurking scum.

Can you remind me why you are town leaning RCE?

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:08 pm

the mod is due for a prod.

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:19 pm

Yes*

in your user control pannel there is a drop down where you can change the posts per page. 25 could be the max or not, IDK so that's why I said yes with an asterisk.

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:22 pm

or maybe not.

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:16 pm

I'm ok with vigs/investigations on any of Creature, Joges or Flippy. I see the scum motivation in being a lurky nonentity. Not really scum reading them but also not hard scum reading them either.

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:48 pm

Roster seems kina null 4 me. I could see both alignments going after "trolling" players. Town b/c he's you know, right. And scum sense its not a super hard push a trolling bad poster as scum. The only real issue is that he didn't look at his scum games but then I feel like a town him could just go "oh hey, he's trolling in this game doesn't seem the same as his town games thus he must be scum."

Its also not entirely impossible that he goes after Vedith then switches to the Eyes wagon when it looks like that's gonna happen then switches back to Vedith when that dies. But again, I just think that's a bit null. IDK.

Nero Cain · Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:20 pm

VOTE: Emperor flippyNips

RCE gets one more day, let's flip this.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:51 am

Just replace out, Creature.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:51 am

In post 1090, Sashaddin wrote:Doesn't do anything scummy. Kept the conversation going. Comments on other players, so is following the game.

Yeah but he flying under the radar and not talking about who he wants to lynch or anything. He's being overly cautious and I don't feel like that comes from town.

In post 1093, Creature wrote:sorta confirms Nips as scum.

not really. If he's scum then he that's only 3 less ppl less likely to vote him.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:55 am

replace the fuck out

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:58 am

He's actually an RCE counterwagon but you know, you either aren't paying attention or are just scum.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:59 am

An in general, the wagon/counter wagon argument is not all that accurate.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:01 am

In post 1107, Creature wrote:Me replacing out would help scum so much at this point considering I'm not circlejerking here.

If you aren't scum you are just a distraction from scumhunting b/c when you lurk and don't do anything it's making these new players suspicious of you and makes you a decent hedge for scum. Play or replace out.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:05 am

he could be, he could also just be town that doesn't care. He's a decent lynch.

Like he should be playing here and not signing up for other games.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:16 am

In post 1114, Creature wrote:Quite a lot of players are doing the same, but I think him being inactive here is actually a tell.

Could be. I know why you think it is although I think possibly that he could be just a generally busy guy and its NAI.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:19 am

Like the closest RCE has gotten to scumhunting today is saying that Stanley was suspicious, he thinks that scum was on the Jibril wagon and that he thinks Profii is scum b/c he's pick up on Vedith's PR tell. But he's yet to even vote anyone?

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:20 am

In post 1117, BuJaber wrote:Share with the class?

umm no. It's between Creature and I and sharing would break site rules so....

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:24 am

In post 1120, RCEnigma wrote:Last wagon I led was on town so w/e scumread me for not repeating.

Is this saying you don't want to lead a lynch b/c you are afraid to mislynch again?

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:01 pm

In post 1134, Creature wrote:but I don't think he'd be that inactive as town.

bur he was active in the beginning of the game and that's why I was town reading him. It's possible that he just ran out of gas and has fallen back onto his lurky playstyle but I also think it's possible that he's just legit busy. I voted him b/c I was miffed that he's signing up for another game but doesn't have time to play this.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:27 pm

In post 1135, Amor wrote:952, 976 and 1030 are all about the mason claim

TBD, the Shantiel thing is just a troll. 976 feels more like him trying to be manipulative and try to get me to scum read OK and/or blame me if OK flips town.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:29 pm

In post 1138, RCEnigma wrote:I'm not sure if I can be more clear about who I'm scumreading.

You could use your vote. Also, Buj is pushing you so why isn't in your group of "OMG scum is pushing me!"?

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:36 pm

or we could RCE.

Nero Cain · Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:56 pm

In post 807, Nero Cain wrote:Lets vote RCE who did no scumhunting and vote sat on town.

In post 1166, Lycanfire wrote:821 is scumhunting.

My post was way before 821 and was CLEARLY talking about yesterday. But even if we say that 821 is scumhunting he's not voting anything or committing to anything. His proffi read is weird as fuck

VOTE: RCE

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:03 am

In post 1170, RCEnigma wrote:Idk he tried to push the idea one scum has to be between us.

How is he being a sheep? I ask b/c he was pushing the one of RCE or Nero is scum b4 the wagon started. And even if he is being a sheep how does that not qualify your criteria of "one scum is pushing me"?

And there's way more than one scum in this game bro...

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:06 am

I'm not really understanding your post Lycan.

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:12 am

yes? What's your point?

The old "scum wouldn't do that" argument?

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:21 am

In post 1178, RCEnigma wrote:Lol would I buss my whole scumteam? Yeah probably.

im only accusing you of bussing proffi.

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:15 pm

In post 1202, RCEnigma wrote:Huzzah for another day of Nero tunneling,

your play is pretty wonky and I'm far from the only person that thinks so.

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:05 pm

What are these "other merits"?

Wanna talk about the other 15 slots?

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:18 pm

your catchup is p weak.

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:32 pm

In post 1208, Eyes without a face wrote:Nero thinks RCE & profii are scum partners, right?

right. RCE's belief that the kill likely came from Proffi b/c he thinks Proffi would pick up on his kinda crumb felt off to me so I felt like it was possible bussing. Your thoughts?

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:34 pm

In post 1211, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1205, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1202, RCEnigma wrote:Huzzah for another day of Nero tunneling,
your play is pretty wonky and I'm far from the only person that thinks so.
They think it because you think it.

"EVERYONE IS VOTING ME B/C NERO THINKS I'M SCUMMY. No one really thinks my play is scummy, its all Nero forcing them to scum read me. YEAH!"

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:37 pm

NERO CAIN COMMANDS YOU TO SCUM READ RCE! Ita my superpowah according to RCE.

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:47 pm

b/c bussing is town cred and a scum RCE needs said town cred.

And its just...so far out there that its kind of hard to believe that its a town thought process, idk.

Nero Cain · Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:25 pm

In post 1225, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Rce not to hold the game hostage or anything but, pretty please?

ugh. really guy

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:29 am

In post 1236, profii wrote:Anyone wanna call this scum still?

So he made a p decent post, not like scum can't do that. Like, I know I'm kinda tunneling and he'll throw a fit about said tunneling but its hard for me to move on. I realize that he could be town put a decent post about someone who I think could be his buddy doesn't outweigh what I feel he's scummy for. And that's why I've been asking others opinions but apparently, no one thinks he's scummy and they are all just town sheeping me or scum sheeping me. I'll dedicate a longer post to this topic when I feel less lazy.

Why so concerned with a RCE town?

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:31 am

In post 1238, profii wrote:No way the scumteam would contain that much deadweight.

It could b/c roles are random. The flipside of the argument is that he's just scum going after a bunch of LHF.

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:33 am

Creatures scumgame has improved and by improved I mean he occasionally posts.

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:45 am

[*]BuJaber-tthinks RCE is scum.
[*]Nero Cain-thinks RCE is scum
[*]0verki11-thinks RCE is scum
[*]stan1ey-thinks RCE is scum.
[*]Amor-hasn't really talked about him but did say that he disliked 931 So light scum read?
[*]Eyes without a face-scum reads him but hasn't voted yet.

[*]Creature-Called him town and later wasn't as strong on it?
[*]rosterfoster-hasn't talked about him
[*]Emperor flippyNips-says he'll read later
[*]joges slot-hasn't talked about him

Sashaddin-leaning town

Lycanfire-town reads him.

profii-town reads him.

With the exception of Sasha, a bunch of shady slots are town reading him. Scum that knows he's town or buddies?

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:22 am

Scum don't read town read their buddies is false also I'm not calling Sasha scum. reading is tech bro.

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:09 pm

Flippy is a fine compromise lynch.

VOTE: Flippynips

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:12 pm

In post 1256, Creature wrote:if you won't lynch Nips then tell everyone to stop pushing me because I'm confirmable

Well so is he and so is everyone.

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:15 pm

TBF, Flippy should have been prodded 2 days ago. last time he left he said he'd be back yesterday and he's active sitewide.If he's scum great, if he's town then who cares.

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:00 pm

In post 1271, Eyes without a face wrote:Why would anyone vote themselves?

It's either a scum

aTe

or frustrated or self-aware town.

In post 1271, Eyes without a face wrote:Why are we back to voting Nippy? And based on activity? I thought I did that on D1 and I was suspected for it.

We are voting Nippy b/c he's either scum lurking it out or like the most unhelpful town ever. He's a decent flip.

In post 1271, Eyes without a face wrote:Yet again, he said he was waiting for something to happen in the game and he will play it, but hen he didn't.

I don't exactly remember that. Still, there is a fair amount that's going on and what's stopping him from commenting on that?

In post 1271, Eyes without a face wrote:@Nero: You better be sure and you bettter not change your mind again. The reason I'm half sheeping you us I have no confidence in my own reads. If you keep flip flopping it shows you're not either, and so I'd be better off doing my own thing anyway.

I mean, I've been flipping between RCE and Flippy lately. My Creature vote was mainly a joke. Also, there's multiple scum in this game so I could theoretically be correct on both Flippy and RCE. It's not a lack of confidence but a matter of picking a wagon that's gonna go through.

Nero Cain · Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:03 pm

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:39 am

@ that last RCE post.

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:28 pm

In post 1288, RCEnigma wrote:Ok, say by some unholy miracle I flip town and the wagon is nearly identical to the wagon that flipped town day 1. Would it not be logical to assume there is scum on that wagon? And heavily probable that there is scum in the slots that voted both times?

oh no, town have never been on two mislynches b4. I mean, I get where you are coming from and it's possible but I don't think two wagos is enough data. I mean, like framing Overkill and Stans vote as scum that hopped on the wagon late when they knew it would go through is fair but I think its just as possible that they are town that didn't want a no lynch? Sure scum need mislynches but town also need flips to help solve. Also, you and Buj fit that description but you are adamant that Buj isn't scum which I think is really odd and possibly blatant scum play.

In post 1289, RCEnigma wrote:Because once I flip, Nero should be on the back foot. He has to explain himself on my town flip aside from, "whoops. I just thought every word he typed was scum scum scum. Haha my bad."

the hell I do.

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:46 pm

In post 1321, Eyes without a face wrote: 5 replacements in under 2 gamedays?

yeah, this game got even worse. I'm pretty ok with voting between RCE and Flippy.

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:58 pm

and fucking rosterfoster is just a prod doger. I'm going to look back at it but I don't remember liking or caring about Vedith's case too much. Could be a case of OMGUS that unintentionally caught scum.

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:43 pm

I mean Nippy felt like this game wasn't worth playing in and signed up for another game. And that's after two days of not post here b/c the mod couldn't be bothered to prod him. I'm not seeing a huge difference between Flippy's actions and Roster's.

What are your thoughts on RCE saying that scum is voting him but is adament that its not you?

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:55 pm

I mean basically, Roster is saying that he felt like Vedith's trolling in one game was town motivated via reaction testing and here it's just useless trolling. And Vedith is getting up in his grill about it. I mean neither side really WOWs me I guess.

Nero Cain · Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:57 pm

In post 1327, BuJaber wrote:1. He barely had pressure on him to dissuade him from playing.

I mean he wasn't getting heat until today and it's not impossible that he's just like "fuck trying to redeem my slot"