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Are you ignoring meIn post 82, BuJaber wrote:It's a useless question anyway.
Assume it's not RVS. The player will tell you if you're wrong. Determine if they're lying or not.- Enigma
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63 joges also says vote for himself. I can see the gut town read - scum or tpr wouldn't invite others to vote on themIn post 92, Vedith wrote:His last post was asking for more votes on Armor. 63
He doesn't know why he's voting Armor 50
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Nah no grudges was a good game, and pretty keen to play with you again.In post 106, BuJaber wrote:@Enigma - yes.. if you want me to react to your RVS vote don't make it look like an RVS vote. Also just on a personal level I'm not fully sure how you feel about me from last game, maybe you secretly don't like what I did. Liking someone who doesn't like you back is the worst. I want to figure you out some more.
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anytime!
nahh ... can we get more votes on eyes?In post 142, Vedith wrote:I quite like Eyes entrance- Enigma
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It's more so the 2nd part of the post where he said he wasn't going to rvs vote (ehhh) but then proceeded to (illogically - it's 17p) explain he doesn't want to accidently putting someone at the lynching rangeIn post 157, BuJaber wrote:Pretty NAI entrance from eyes. Pretty easy to just pick any post and call it the only townie post in the game. At least when creature does it he displays effort in going through and commenting on multiple posts.- Enigma
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+1In post 353, stan1ey wrote:Eyes and Sasha just got scummier in my book
i kinda want to lynch eyes first now, then vedith if eyes flips red- Enigma
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Hi
I'm still happy with my eyes vote based on his response to the wagon on him. Part of the original suspicion I had on him was meta, he has one completed game on this site where he was lynched D1 as town as the play is somewhat different to here.
What is a bit unsettling is the speed at which the wagon built up on him. I suppose either way, his flip with be good for associative later in this game.
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Vote was rvs because last game with BuJ he bussed the shit out of me without warning me
I voted Vedith because there was zero interest in eyes. I indicated I wanted to return to eyes due to his yucky posting and 1v1, then returned back to him when it seemed like my vote there would not go to waste and generate some pressure.
Also lycan, interested if you have any conclusions from eye's only town game (since you read stanley's)?
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Maybe I'm that good haha ... but generally I do better late game and get in a bit of tunnelIn post 540, profii wrote:So the most interesting thing to me is the peak of the Jibril wagon is all different voters to the peak of the Vedith wagon, then most of the Vedith voters end up on Eyes, with RCEnigma being the only difference.
I also just noted we have Enigma being happy to lynch Vedith or Eyes
so this makes me ask myself - am I happy that Jibril is town and that wagon is wrong and am I therefore happy that Enigma is right and has picked up on 2 scum targets on day 1?
This is where I will start looking... but not riiiight now.
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We are in a 17p game and it takes 9 to lynch. Maybe in a 9 or 11p game a troll wagon could work, but very unlikely this game.In post 555, Eyes without a face wrote:
I've been in games where someone got lynch on page 3 by accident (was a troll wagon and someone inadvertently put them @L-1 without announcing it, and another player thought it was funny to hammer. The hammerer was town too). Do I need to tell you how that game went from then on?In post 159, Enigma wrote:It's more so the 2nd part of the post where he said he wasn't going to rvs vote (ehhh) but then proceeded to (illogically - it's 17p) explain he doesn't want to accidently putting someone at the lynching range
I like Lycan's #160. Both the openness and the vote on Creature.
I think these were 2 of the 3 games I linked earlier, No? If they are, then how come you didn't respond to his claim he thought you were a hydra?In post 165, RCEnigma wrote:There is a decent amount of players that have recently seen creatures town game (ok2) and 3 of those 4 that have recently played with or around his scumgame (Nk15's normal).
I think I can stop my reread at this point (end of page #7) for now. I was more engaged from then on, and I can continue my reread from that point on later if I need to.
Tbh the main reason I'm still voting you is the starkness in difference between Open 745 where you were a VT lynched D1 and here. There you put yourself at L-1, you were generally a bit more condescending and frustrated with the votes on you. Very different to here and your interactions before/after your wagon. Or maybe I've fucked up and you are a TPR then whoopsies, but I doubt you are a VT.- Enigma
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4 days till deadline, no clear wagon and we will end up doing something rushed and stupid at this rate ...
I am happy to see either vedith or eyes lynched. At this stage if either of them flip red, we vote the next one - would prefer eyes though.
For that reason, not interested in rooster. I don't care about jibril.
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Uggh this one is interesting. I didn't pick up the tpr claim and but unfortunate you were the one who got that out of him.In post 807, Nero Cain wrote:Vedith basically claimed TPR by saying that he WASN'T a vt. That's why he was killed. Lets vote RCE who did no scumhunting and vote sat on town.
I was wondering if you went lurky after that pick up because you didn't post after vedith's not vt post ... but you didn't post anywhere on the site and were v/la so can't read much out of that.- Enigma
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suppose was expecting you to unvote vedith if you read thatIn post 876, Nero Cain wrote:
Why would it have mattered?In post 873, Enigma wrote:I was wondering if you went lurky after that pick up because you didn't post after vedith's not vt post ... but you didn't post anywhere on the site and were v/la so can't read much out of that.
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they can but why push that hard when they game was a useless cesspool of confusion yesterday with townies both being the (mis)lynch targetsIn post 879, Nero Cain wrote:you don't think scum can tunnel?
yeh wifom but meh
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I actually forgot now the reasoning whoopsiessIn post 886, BuJaber wrote:Enigma why roster.. he's been pretty townie I think.. I'm interested in what he has to say about stanley
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VOTE: creatureIn post 894, Creature wrote:
Vote me pussyIn post 875, Enigma wrote:add creature to the would vote list- Enigma
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Hi friends
for ease of reading
roosters votes in a nutshell
322 - calls vedith scum for trolling
341 - writes a wall about why trolling is scummy
391 - votes eyes with wagon
483 - returns to vedith after eyes wagon disappears, says jibril wagon is meritless
495 - acknowledges case on jibril, still believes vedith is scummy
657 - votes amor (because amor votes vedith)
659 - votes stanley (when stanley defends amor)
660 - thinks vedith is town based on amor's and stanley's votes
724 - realises stanley won't be lynched, calls stanley vedith's partner and votes vedith
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801 - votes stanley, doesn't really comment on flips or much (declares v/la)
@stanley - reads on rooster?
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also we should noose emperor for this lamist, complete coasting through the game and absence of scum hunting/reflection post d1/n1 flipIn post 788, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I wonder why vedith was the nk when a lot of people scum read him- Enigma
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Uhhhh I’m pretty sure I was starting the emperor wagon (and am still pretty set on it) until you told me to vote you.In post 1093, Creature wrote:
He's like the easiest mislynch in the game if town.In post 1091, Sashaddin wrote:
Can you elaborate?In post 1089, Creature wrote:If Nips was town I wouldn't be the counterwagon to him
The fact sketchy players like Amor and Enigma are hopping into my wagon while no one else is jumping to the FlippyNips wagon sorta confirms Nips as scum.- Enigma
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Haha, well Im not so sure of my own meta so I can't comment on that. I know what to expect from scum BuJ though, but will probably need a bit more flips/associatives to figure that outIn post 1162, BuJaber wrote:5 lurkers and RCE?
Also I don't think enigma is scum. He's barely been trying to push like an agenda or anything. Also I think he'd push me more as scum. That last game we were scum together was very long and is fresh in my mind. I suspect in his also. We'll catch on to each other quick- Enigma
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I bow to your amazing deduction skills - are you scum with creature?In post 1196, Succinct wrote:
I took one look and could tell this is town Creature.In post 1165, Enigma wrote:I feel like I can somewhat figure town creature (less scum creature), and he hasn't been screaming town so far so yehhh ...
Anyone claiming otherwise is automatically suspect.
Agreed.In post 1191, Creature wrote:I rest my case.
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Creature's wasn't playing any game earlier but lurking and trolling, and that's not enough to deduce he is town (as opposed to he is scum).In post 1319, Succinct wrote:
You should; Creature's improved scumgame's not this good.In post 1279, Enigma wrote:I bow to your amazing deduction skills
Anyway in the mean time:
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so how did your read on me evolve to me potentially being scum?In post 1451, Nero Cain wrote:but lets just say that roster and Buj are town. That leaves us with both enigmas and one of flapjack or lyncan. Or maybe just RCE and both Flapjack and lycan.- Enigma
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EOD1
Jibril(9):Emperor flippyNips, RCEnigma, Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster, 0verki11,stan1ey
Vedith(4): Nero Cain, Amor, Lycanfire, Enigma
D1 wagon:
Eyes without a face (6):stan1ey, Nero Cain, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster, profii
rosterfoster (3):Vedith, Eyes without a face, Sashaddin
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Emperor flippyNips(8): Nero Cain, Creature, Eyes without a face, Succinct,stan1ey, Sashaddin, profii, Flapjack
D2 wagon
Creature (5): Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin, Lycanfire, profii
RCEnigma (4): 0verki11, BuJaber,stan1ey, RCEnigma
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Can't put together a list at the moment, but tbh I'm actually feeling that scum have been leading the direction of the discussions and lynches (compared to my previous thinking that scum were lying low and letting town be confused).In post 1458, Nero Cain wrote:
sure but that's vague, can you be more specific about who the scum are that are driving these wagons?In post 1455, Enigma wrote:These are scum driven mislynches
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I'm not saying the same scum are on both wagons, more likely they could split their votes up between the 4 of them plus they have day chat to coordinateIn post 1461, RCEnigma wrote:
Are you saying both jibrils wagon and Eyes wagon were scumdriven? Only my slot and Stanley are common votes on each day 1 wagon there and Stanley has flipped town with his partner on only one of those. I find it hard to believe scum avoid lynching eyes in favor of jibril.In post 1455, Enigma wrote:EOD1
Jibril(9):Emperor flippyNips, RCEnigma, Sashaddin, Creature, profii, BuJaber, rosterfoster, 0verki11,stan1ey
Vedith(4): Nero Cain, Amor, Lycanfire, Enigma
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Eyes without a face (6):stan1ey, Nero Cain, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster, profii
rosterfoster (3):Vedith, Eyes without a face, Sashaddin
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Emperor flippyNips(8): Nero Cain, Creature, Eyes without a face, Succinct,stan1ey, Sashaddin, profii, Flapjack
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Creature (5): Amor, Enigma, Sashaddin, Lycanfire, profii
RCEnigma (4): 0verki11, BuJaber,stan1ey, RCEnigma
These are scum driven mislynches
I think this was part of the reason I made a connection between eyes and Bujaber in the first place.
For me it would actually be more interesting to look at the differences between the two wagons rather than the intersections... (later)- Enigma
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Unless eyes is scum?In post 1491, RCEnigma wrote:
Unless you see Enigma/roster as partners, which is possible. I'd put 1 scum in that group of 4In post 1476, Nero Cain wrote:scum woulda needed 9 votes to lynch Eyes.
Eyes doesn't vote himself (prob)
I unvoted Eyes in 508 and profii unvotes in 552. The next unvote is 100 posts later.
First we'd have to assume that all 4 of you are town wich lol nope.In post 1455, Enigma wrote:Eyes without a face (4): stan1ey, Enigma, RCEnigma, rosterfoster
Then you'd have to assume that all 4 scum are in
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Lycanfire
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again nope. I could kinda see scum being in Buj, lycan and Flapjack thought that would still me you or the other Enigma is scum. (or maybe roster, idk) But scum wasn't getting that wagon.
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If you are up to it, update of a read on me?In post 1162, BuJaber wrote:5 lurkers and RCE?
Also I don't think enigma is scum. He's barely been trying to push like an agenda or anything. Also I think he'd push me more as scum. That last game we were scum together was very long and is fresh in my mind. I suspect in his also. We'll catch on to each other quick- Enigma
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I'm going to make an assumption that profii is town and if I'm wrong well oppsies
Would vote:
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Someone convince me on:
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then im either a terrible player for tring you or you are a terrible player ... i hope the latterIn post 1704, profii wrote:I wanna vote enigma- Enigma
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1. joges was scummyIn post 1707, Flapjack wrote:Why would you vote succint over sasha?
2. succinct asked creature who his reads were (iso 0) as if they were questioning them, then proceeded to say he/she knew creature was town in iso 1,2, 5.
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his lack luster defence to being wagoned mainly .. feel scum would care moreIn post 1712, Nero Cain wrote:Why does profii feel town?
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Early game is boring for scum huntingIn post 1804, Nero Cain wrote:
yes and no b/c they all kinda tie in together. His "scum hunting" seems weak overall. Like there's just not much to it and it's fairly suspicious that he was all about lynching Flippy yesterday but somehow just doesn't make it onto the wagon.In post 1801, BuJaber wrote:Nero you have other reasons to suspect enigma than the low hanging fruit list?
I will voteIn post 1801, BuJaber wrote:And why enigma before profii? Better still why enigma before RCE?of profii, RCE, Enigma, or Lycan. I know its fairly arrogant of me to assume that I've solved on d3 but lets just pretend I have and all ofANY
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and I get you to all to stop misreading each other (looking at you Creature and Flapjack!) and then we all have to work together to lynch 1 of those 4 scumbutts. Though I am feeling that nigma wagon but I'm pretty flexible man.
Sorry for tunneling you, lets never fight again Buja Bear.
Wasn't online when flippy wagon happened, and i would have voted him so
You are either pretty arrogant, but im pretty sure probs just scum
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For the record, rn i townread all of the players on your scum readIn post 1804, Nero Cain wrote:I will vote ANY of profii, RCE, Enigma, or Lycan. I know its fairly arrogant of me to assume that I've solved on d3 but lets just pretend I have and all of - Enigma
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