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Post Post #8625 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 8619, DrewVa wrote:Is there any conceivable way you are both town that doesn't require mod error or a bastard game lol?
Only if you're not actually an activator. So no.

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Post Post #8626 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:17 am

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Profii what was you n4?
N1: loyal penguin
N2: loud creature (not confirmed?); Sticky penguin (2 actions?)
N3: ascetic una? + receives hood shot from ss
N4: hoods?

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Post Post #8627 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:18 am

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In post 8624, RCEnigma wrote:I think Profiis stickyfruit comment was glossed over. In the rolecard it is implied the stickyfruit has an ability. If the stickyfruit ability transfers itself to the receivers target then it isn't necessarily a cross claim.
Nope. This would mean that stickyfruit would have transferred itself to profii's target N1. Penguin.
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Post Post #8628 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:19 am

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In post 8621, Thanos wrote:No, I mean if you didn't retract it Una would still be hard to lynch.
Why would hard townreading Una have anything to do with that?
Retracting the claim was beneficial for scum!you; cause not doing so would get you killed.
Because I would be actively initiating a 1v1 with my hard townread which is ?????

I'm just going to assume you think I'm bad scum and move on.
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Post Post #8629 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:19 am

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In post 8624, RCEnigma wrote:I think Profiis stickyfruit comment was glossed over. In the rolecard it is implied the stickyfruit has an ability. If the stickyfruit ability transfers itself to the receivers target then it isn't necessarily a cross claim.
In which case shouldn't bef know what it is and therefore be lying by omission?

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Post Post #8630 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:19 am

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In post 8623, Jingle wrote:
In post 8617, BrightEyedFish wrote:How would a town!me flip help the rest solve the problems with the fruit. Because you will have the exact same info you have now--just one less town.
A town you flip neccessarily means profii is scum. A town profii flip necessarily means you are scum. Thus, dichotomy.

How? I have no loyal modifiers or anything. I could have given the fruit to town or scum profii.
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Post Post #8631 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:19 am

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In post 8627, Jingle wrote:
In post 8624, RCEnigma wrote:I think Profiis stickyfruit comment was glossed over. In the rolecard it is implied the stickyfruit has an ability. If the stickyfruit ability transfers itself to the receivers target then it isn't necessarily a cross claim.
Nope. This would mean that stickyfruit would have transferred itself to profii's target N1. Penguin.
Hmm you're right.
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Post Post #8632 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 8629, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8624, RCEnigma wrote:I think Profiis stickyfruit comment was glossed over. In the rolecard it is implied the stickyfruit has an ability. If the stickyfruit ability transfers itself to the receivers target then it isn't necessarily a cross claim.
In which case shouldn't bef know what it is and therefore be lying by omission?

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Why would Bef know what it is?
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Post Post #8633 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:20 am

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Oh yeah. Creature confirmation and profii townflip incriminates Penguin. BEF scumflip incriminates one of the day 1 winners.
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Post Post #8634 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:20 am

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In post 8628, RCEnigma wrote:Because I would be actively initiating a 1v1 with my hard townread which is ?????

I'm just going to assume you think I'm bad scum and move on.
I feel we're misunderstanding each other.
Exactly, initiating a 1v1 with a hard townread is a bad move.
Retracting your claim and NOT initiating a 1v1 is a good move.
You're asking why you wouldn't retract it. But retracting is the better move.
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Post Post #8635 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:21 am

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In post 8625, Jingle wrote:Only if you're not actually an activator. So no.

VOTE: BEF
If the dichotomy is because one of them lied about their role, then why BEF? His SFV role is confirmed, no?
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Post Post #8636 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:22 am

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In post 8622, profii wrote:
In post 8610, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8606, RCEnigma wrote:Why claim at all then?
Because we need to sort profii/bef nonsense and us being in a loyal hood is the only proof of profii's variant role being real

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I believe Una confirmed receiving the ascetic, he certainly queried me after the fact so I took it that it worked - but I'll let him 100% confirm
I think creature loud makes or breaks this

If creature didn't get loud then ss might have jailed you n2 and bef could have fruited tlk

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Post Post #8637 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:22 am

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In post 8633, Jingle wrote:Oh yeah. Creature confirmation and profii townflip incriminates Penguin. BEF scumflip incriminates one of the day 1 winners.
Anything that incriminates Penguin incriminates drewva.
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Post Post #8638 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:23 am

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In post 8632, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 8629, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8624, RCEnigma wrote:I think Profiis stickyfruit comment was glossed over. In the rolecard it is implied the stickyfruit has an ability. If the stickyfruit ability transfers itself to the receivers target then it isn't necessarily a cross claim.
In which case shouldn't bef know what it is and therefore be lying by omission?

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Why would Bef know what it is?
Wouldn't that be in his role card?

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Post Post #8639 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:23 am

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In post 8630, BrightEyedFish wrote:How? I have no loyal modifiers or anything. I could have given the fruit to town or scum profii.
Because one of you is lying about night action resolution. For TLK to have recieved sticky fruit N2, profii has to have sent TLK sticky fruit N2 or you have to have sent TLK sticky fruit N2. There is no potential redirection role.

As town you don't have a reason to lie. As town profii doesn't have a reason to lie.

btw, I'm voting BEF not because I don't believe him (I think both have strong townreasoning) but because scum stickyfruit vendor makes more sense and is more dangerous to town than scum loyal inventor.
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Post Post #8640 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:24 am

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No his rolecard is on the front page.
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Post Post #8641 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:25 am

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why do I feel like ss cooked this up d1 and he is just giggling to himself post death now

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Post Post #8642 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:27 am

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In post 8637, RCEnigma wrote:Anything that incriminates Penguin incriminates drewva.
Nope. For drewva to be incriminated Penguin has to necessarily be telling the truth. It is possible that Penguin isn't actually loyal. It certainly implies that DrewVa would be scum, but in no way confirms it.
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Post Post #8643 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:28 am

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In post 8636, DrewVa wrote:I think creature loud makes or breaks this

If creature didn't get loud then ss might have jailed you n2 and bef could have fruited tlk

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Post Post #8644 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:29 am

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Why wouldn't PP be loyal on a Profii townflip?
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Post Post #8645 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:30 am

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Creature received loud and targeted someone, they should be able to verify right?
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Post Post #8646 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:34 am

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In post 8645, Thanos wrote:Creature received loud and targeted someone, they should be able to verify right?
Elsewhere yeah you should know right now thanos

Did creature loudly visit you ln?

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Post Post #8647 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:36 am

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In post 8633, Jingle wrote:Oh yeah. Creature confirmation and profii townflip incriminates Penguin. BEF scumflip incriminates one of the day 1 winners.
I agree at least one D1 winner is scum but how does my scum flip confirm that?
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Post Post #8648 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:37 am

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Oh yeah, he targeted me lol. Checked PMs and there's nothing. He can't be loud.
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Post Post #8649 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:37 am

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So this makes BEF scum? Wait how exactly again?
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