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Post Post #3850 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:15 am

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In post 3812, RadiantCowbells wrote:i even acutely know ahead of time that this waffling is going to get wolfread but i can't do anything about it cuz like

fuuck

ss questioned basically every inclusion in the locktown pool (taly, nd, etc) then tried to get him(her?)self hitched with moment
I don't wolfread you, as this was my initial concern with
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But I'm done questioning any of my reads until flips occur, for the exact reason you just displayed. :P

This game is either very easy, or nightmare level - so I'm not going to cast uncertainty when I can't do anything about it and makes it worse.

I want to say more but I'm not outing my top townreads.
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In post 3840, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3794, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think nancy drew pairing is going to be shot and i think me/ankamius are going to end up self destructing at some point

i'll read brie's old games again because i don't want to be the reason she's not brought to endgame if she's town but ugh this situation leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Really? Some slots are scumreading us both. Me: Allo and although SS hasn’t stated a scumread on me, he asked others to towncase me and Krazy has advocated a deepwolf theory on Dann.
And I think Urist is still scumreading him as well, unless that’s changed?
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I don't feel that they're town.
In post 3722, Krazy wrote:
In post 3719, Taly wrote:Thoughts on Moment? I'm not feeling strongly about Gamma either way, early-game I had a townread there, but that's faded.
To be honest when I was doing the "who are the gents left in the game list" earlier Moment was the name I had to go back and remind myself of. I have almost no thoughts on him. I thought he was townie briefly when he got angry at me for posting a lot but I've since second-guessed that, leaving him quite null. Doesn't give me a strong reason to second-guess the people townreading him though and I have no problem with pairing him with someone like Gamma that I see as lynchbaity town, but I don't really have a need to pick a fight there with RC and I don't see a need to force Moment into that pairing if he doesn't want it. I more want to see what he actually chooses to do and not over-analyze his slot until he does more AI stuff.
I'm in the same boat, I need to read
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Thoughts on
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and
Allo
?

I won't pry anymore about reads until our PT.
PvtUrist wrote:Been finding it difficult to get back into the game, I'll admit that I currently have no scumreads (rather, not one with enough evidence or confidence to push on, after what happened with Dann).
Any other suspicion besides
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Post Post #3851 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:26 am

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In post 3850, Taly wrote: Why should
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be kept in the dance
I'm town
In post 3850, Taly wrote:Any other suspicion besides
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Idunno you?
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Post Post #3852 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:42 am

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So here.

PB, Dann and Krazy have explained their town-read on me. Taly and Anka, mind explaining your scum read?

While you're at it, explain why exactly Allomancer is town and should be in the dance before me.

I'll try to play a bit more seriously, now that I'm no longer drunk tunneling.
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Post Post #3853 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:58 am

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Because you are the one slot in this entire game that I never seem to notice is talking when you are talking

You have a good amount of posts but none of them are memorable.
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Post Post #3854 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:07 am

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In post 3819, TheBrie wrote:Well if I can...

Moment, I would be honoured to dance with you.


@Mod, is a gentleman ask one lady, then a second lady, can the first lady still accept? The offer wasn't withdrawn in this situation.
The hell?

Why did you do that??
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Post Post #3855 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:09 am

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What part of letting Moment pick wasn't clear to you?
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Post Post #3856 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:12 am

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Actually you know what

I think I would be happiest with a DT+SS pairing while Allo, Urist, and Gamma are all left out.
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Post Post #3857 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:13 am

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Easiest way to handle Gammas 6 coins and there isn't any gentlemen that really neeeeeeds to be kept around in the unpaired regardless
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Post Post #3858 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:14 am

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There's no reason to leave more than one person out, if only because it prevents Vedith from yolobombing.

I think I may be happier with Allo atm, I don't give any shits that he scumreads me anymore and I just want to pair with town.
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Post Post #3859 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:17 am

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Vedith will make the game a shitshow the exact same way if he wants to regardless of whether we leave 1 person out or 3. I see that as a concern only if we are specifically planning on skipping first dance entirely.
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Post Post #3860 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:18 am

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Let's face if I'm Scum I'm going to try and look town and not lollynch.
If I'm town I'm going to be discussing my reads in the PT first and not lollynch.
I agree that leaving no one out is the better option as Scum are most likely paired or high potential to any way.
I claim scum \o/
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Post Post #3861 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:19 am

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In post 3859, Ankamius wrote:Vedith will make the game a shitshow the exact same way if he wants to regardless of whether we leave 1 person out or 3. I see that as a concern only if we are specifically planning on skipping first dance entirely.
I'll make it a shitshow regardless?
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Post Post #3862 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:23 am

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Who's the scum that are paired in that way then.

You and fire, Pink Ball and Dr Worm are the only slots that fit that kind of mold (RC + Me are both widely townread so the only real difference in us pairing is that we don't get OTHER strong town pairings). Nancy, Taly, and Brie had pairings that were widely discussed for a long time now.

So either you are saying that scum are in those two pairings that I mentioned before, or you think scum have worked to pocket town... in which case I am already operating under that assumption and my reads are based on that, sooooooo
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Post Post #3863 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:23 am

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In post 3861, Vedith wrote:
In post 3859, Ankamius wrote:Vedith will make the game a shitshow the exact same way if he wants to regardless of whether we leave 1 person out or 3. I see that as a concern only if we are specifically planning on skipping first dance entirely.
I'll make it a shitshow regardless?
If you're going to make it a shitshow, it's impossible to stop without a full set of pairings and skipping first dance.
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Post Post #3864 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:35 am

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I'm waiting until the dance to discuss my reads properly.
If any of my Scum reads are town read by majority then that doesn't mean anything to me.
I'll tell you now tough, it's not you and RC.

And if you honestly think that im going to attempt to ruin the game as either align I can honestly just replace out.
The fact that even when I was putting effort into the game that people are only throwing shade that I'm just going to lollynch and no other option is just stupid.
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Post Post #3865 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:53 am

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I'm not saying you will or will not

I'm saying that if you want to, there isn't really anything we can do to stop it other than full pairing and skipping the first dance entirely.
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Post Post #3866 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:57 am

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Okay
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Post Post #3867 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:02 am

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Vedith i am not sure where ur attempts have been this game.
And I am not even certain of what your trying to do because your last posts indicated you didn't care. Now you do care.
I don't even know where ur reads are.

And last time we had a discussion about ur read on me specifically u had waffled between wanting to convince me ur town to saying i was scum and that u were going to leave me or something.

And I fully plan to leave u the minute I think u do something to shady and rn my shady bells are ringing so if u can give me the crux of everything going through ur head in the PT or here. Would appreciate it.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3868 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:06 am

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Okay I've made no attempts this game at all.
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Post Post #3869 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:08 am

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Whats wrong?
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3870 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:11 am

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I'm just going to wait until the PT. Let me post what I have to say there then react stay/leave as needed.
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Post Post #3871 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:37 am

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Allo, do you townread me yet?
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Post Post #3872 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:51 am

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In post 3775, RadiantCowbells wrote:like

you're doing town a favor by pairing SS either way
Meh I think Moment is scum at this point full stop. Pair them with whatever but I don't want them getting near endgame.
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Post Post #3873 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:53 am

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In post 3802, Moment wrote:And yes Gamma, I was ignoring your question.
Yeah, fuck off scum.
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Post Post #3874 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:55 am

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In post 3834, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3747, RadiantCowbells wrote:i feel the opposite

tbh i wouldn't mind if either of those pairing sgot left out
In post 3751, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3684, RadiantCowbells wrote:dr worm kinda reminds me of moth/brainbomb
I've always thought of bb as more of the rational type tbh
That's not Dr. Worm at all.
Actually, I see bb as a lot more inconsistent than Worm has been. Bb changes his reads/entire view on the gamestate constantly.
Doesn't make bb irrational. Ranmaru is a rational thinker but changes thinking a lot as town.
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