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It's this one ^^^^In post 22, Chara wrote:gut reaction to it was you're either town trying to get discussion going
Yeah, i agree, i didnt really say anything ground-breaking or whatever, but that wasnt really the point, more to start generating discussion
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if you don't mind my asking, what's your mafia experience?In post 25, minhyukwithagun wrote:Out of curiosity, how often do town correctly identify mafia here? It seems like 12 days is counterproductive because it gives mafia more time to blend in or cover their tracks, versus something high pressure like 30 seconds.
idk the exact stats but town do a pretty decent job finding scum imo; not always on day1 but holistically as the game progresses. iirc there's been some discussion about the link between longer deadlines and scum winrates; some people believe pretty strongly that they actively harm town winrates, i think at least in part beacuse it gives scum the ability to induce and weaponize apathy
i personally like the long deadlines quite a lot actually; i like the time to debate and to give myself time to mull things over and i don't like feeling rushed, and i think that playing scum for weeks (if not months) on end is fairly exhausting, having to try to maintain the right perspective and progression for that long
what was this referring to?In post 26, Papa Zito wrote:Am I missing something- skitter30
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i think implosion is kinda townie
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this feels like .... weirdly accusatory and relies on assumptions that i'm not sure are, like, validIn post 38, Enter wrote:Would you like to explain why you are making statements (which are far more in opposition of open discussion than asking questions)?
ie you seem to be calling him out for making statements because they are 'far more in oposition of open discussion than asking questions', which is a dubious statement, and you seem to fault him for doing so, and i'm not sure why you are really
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no offense but this doesn't seem like a real thought; accusing someone for general lack of effort when the game has barely started and is on page2 is kinda ridiculousIn post 47, Enter wrote:General lack of effort.And gut reasons that I don't fully have words for yet. Want to join me?
does this only apply to bef? does anyone else satisfy the criteria for 'general lack of effort?'
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fair enough, fair enoughIn post 57, Papa Zito wrote:Chara's 22 but it turns out I did, indeed, miss something.
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uh no? people can enjoy rvs and meme a bit for a few posts and become serious later on? i would actually argue that rvs posts are not particularly indicative for long-term gamesolving effortsIn post 63, Enter wrote:
Why? It only takes a few posts for someone to indicate they have no intention of scum hunting.In post 61, mcqueen wrote:give the man time? we’re two pages in. why are you so desperate to push something that’s hardly there?
it is for some people obviously, but i don't think that two rvs posts consisting of literally the first post in the game and saying 'hi' to someone else on the first couple of pages really belies a lack of intent to scumhunt, and i think it's kinda misleading/straw-man-y/idk the right word to present bef's posts in this fashion
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mcqueen is kinda townie too
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yeah sometimesIn post 71, Varsoon wrote:Does A50 usually claim early?
Also don't understand the Enter wagon at all.
whether or not the claim is germane to his actual role is a different story
and i kinda hate like every one of enter's posts?
what are you thinking about him?
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yeah i'm thinking about itIn post 78, Enter wrote:Yep. We'll get to them later. You seem like you're building a case. Wanna drop a vote?
kinda trying to gauge if what i'm not liking is a personality/playstyle thing and not a scum thing; i can't tell yet
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not sure what your'e referring toIn post 78, Enter wrote:Also in the post where you place your vote, please also talk about misrepping me by pretending my first question was serious when I already said it wasn't.
if you're talking about the statement thing - when you said you weren't being serious i thought you were referring to not being serious about calling implosion's papa zito read an actual scumread. the reason why it's confusing for me is because your whole interaction there is like very weirdly accusatory and it seemed to me like you were seriously pushing implosion for making a statement instead of a question (which is, imo, an absurd reason to push someone)
idk your tone is very very very weird and like you say it isn't serious but the way you present things makes me think you think you're making valid points (when you're not) and i can't tell if i'm misreading what you mean in the first place or if your'e walking back things when people object to what you're saying.
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let's not end the day yet please
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i know i'm not voting him rn but i think i've indicated what i don't like about him? do you agree/disagree/other?In post 96, Almost50 wrote:@Everyone voting Enter (aside from Percy, obviously): Please ISO him and let me know which post(s) make him a good lynch to you.
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In post 97, Almost50 wrote:Intent to hammer
irregardless of his alignment i think there's likely scum on that wagon tbqh
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getting some pings and i know you're decent at reading him so i figured i'd ask you if you have any thoughts yetIn post 99, Chara wrote:he hasn't done all that much to think about yet. why?ShowHiatus once more.
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yeah his posts i kinda dislike but i'm not sure in like a *scummy* kinda wayIn post 103, implosion wrote:I don't think Enter's reactions to any of the votes have been particularly scummy. I think he's a bit above baseline town at this point. Like, this:
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i mean, in addition to saying i hated *all* of his posts, i did in fact already pull a selection of quotes and specify what exactly i disliked about themIn post 109, Almost50 wrote:
To my recollection you said you hated each and every single post of his, which is a notion I certainly do NOT share. I thus would appreciate it if you included 2-3 quotes and specified what exactly you hated about them.In post 101, skitter30 wrote:i think i've indicated what i don't like about him? do you agree/disagree/other?
(specifically the bit i don't like is his bef push, which i spoke about at length already)
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ah ok, for some reason i had the impression that you were quite good at reading him, idk where i got that fromIn post 111, Chara wrote:skitter: i'd love to hear about those pings! but i'm not especially good at reading Almost. i'm hovering around being paranoid of town Almost and too trusting of scum him, so giving him breathing room is my current tactic.
i'm going to continue poking at him a bit, but his interaction with the enter wagon is kinda pinging me; specifically how he's asking persivul about why he's voted enter
kinda hard to put in words exactly but if enter is town it felt a little like encouraging persivul's vote on the wagon? not sure how well i can explain where i'm getting this vibe from; it's kinda gut and i'm bad at articulating this sort of thing
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i kinda feel like you're baiting me to vote you, and i'm not sure why you're doing thatIn post 112, Enter wrote:You should vote me now that I'm back at L-2. It will be fun, I promise.
i also think on balance scum are kinda less likely to do this tho?
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do you have a read on enter?In post 114, Varsoon wrote:I still don't understand why Enter's wagon flew up to L-2 so fast, but Enter seeming to have hard dodged that made me want to put real pressure there. I trusted we wouldn't have a Boonskies situation and see a quickhammer.
also just trusting a quickhammer not to happen is a little bit, well, too trusting, unless you know the pl really well and know that nobody will actually do that on purpose (and sometimes these things happen by mistake too)
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eh maybe sure idkIn post 121, mcqueen wrote:y’all think there is scum in the neighborhood? is that usually the case? sorry, like I said i’ve never been in one and I’m not sure I’ve been in a game that had one at all.
(basically: could be, really no way to know rn)
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i'm not always hilariously obvtown page2 lolIn post 126, implosion wrote:I'm not sure if skitter feels as town as she's supposed to yet? I thought I might have not been able to read her early but I townread her in my second post last game. I think I understand most of where her sentiments are coming from.
it'll happen, but sometimes just a little later in the game (i guess start worrying if i'm not by like ~sod2)
also which game are you referring to?
also why are you townreading chara?
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In post 130, redtea wrote:This is a very neutral read list, boring as bread.You think this is just some town spat then, maybe with a poke from scum?Do you have any fingers to point?
uh he's like the first person to give townreads on any of {bef/chara/enter}, how is this 'neutral' or 'boring'?
(especially since the enter read is fairly controversial given the l1 wagon we just had on him)
also what does this bolded mean?
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do tellIn post 131, Enter wrote:Skitter feels weird. I don't like it.ShowHiatus once more.
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not till you tell me why you're baiting me to do soShowHiatus once more.
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really tho i get wary of people trying to convince me to vote them for little discernible reasonShowHiatus once more.
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i don't understand what you're trying to say hereIn post 140, redtea wrote:that's exactly why it's neutral. Pardon the comparison, but it's like implosion (town-)voted the republican, democrat, and third party. It almost says nothing. Unless he was thinking something else, having to do with Varsoon. If that's what he's looking at, it's more understandable.ShowHiatus once more.
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thanks, i was blanking on the game i played iwth town!youIn post 146, implosion wrote:
Diffusion of power.skitter wrote:also which game are you referring to?
also why are you townreading chara?
I liked the questions it was asking/general method of interacting with the game. The read is not especially strong.
i've not seen much ai from chara yet imo, that's why i was asking
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why is this a thing that your'e doing tho?In post 157, Enter wrote:Hmm... it's almost like I goaded people into voting me and then I wasn't surprised when they did.
also why are you townreading red tea?
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i didn't like the lol-l1 (coupled with you disliking how fast the wagon built), but it makes slightly more sense in this contextIn post 176, Varsoon wrote:Anyway, it did get people to react as if I had put an RVS flash-wagon at L-1 so it worked as (sort of) a reaction test. Dunno what that says about Chara and Enter, though.
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i think you might be scum here tbhIn post 177, Almost50 wrote:Listen, mate. I'm crazy and I know it. I am also paranoid in this game. It thus gives me strange ideas why you said that. Iirc, Varsoon is Voteless, so theoretically you may have been informed that a player in the setup is and was wondering if that was me. OF COURSE I could be way off the mark, but I'm just being transparent about my thoughts (something you will rarely see me doing at all)
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how do you think it's manipulative?In post 186, mcqueen wrote:maybe I’m overreacting, but does this not sound very manipulative, especially late game?ShowHiatus once more.
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ok you know how sometimes i can jsut, like, tell that you're town? rn you're kinda doing the opposite. i'm getting like none of the townvibes, but a lot of the scumvibes.In post 201, Almost50 wrote:
Tell me something new.In post 195, skitter30 wrote:i think you might be scum here tbh
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i think redtea is kinda scummy tbh
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why are you pushing fish for this now, and not, say, when these posts actually happened and when enter was pushing him over them?In post 217, Chara wrote:VOTE: Fish
this is more fun, actually. for 48 and the next three posts in his ISO.
also i think 53 is kinda townie. i'm not really getting a projection of confidence, it feels kinda townie to me; i also don't really see baiting here
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i'm not entirely sure that bef, like, thinks about the game like this; he also doesn't really seem worried to me; more confused in like a nonchalant sort of wayIn post 235, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Fish
Why would you be worried about a co-ordinated in-PT push that was fabricated solely for reactions?
If anything, it serves 2 purposes:
1. If scum really is in the PT, then they'd hear from their PT-mate and react in a 'proper' way
2. Town who had no clue would react in a genuine way
It seems like it could provide good info, maybe. Why would you oppose that?
i don't really like any of your not-votes tbh
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you can add me to this tallyIn post 241, Enter wrote:You and zito are the only two people who seem to think fish don't look worried.ShowHiatus once more.
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ok what did you think of enter's push on fish as it was happening thenIn post 243, Chara wrote:i don't think Fish looks worried either.
as for why i didn't bring it up earlier: i didn't really take notice at the time, it came up on a reread.ShowHiatus once more.
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i've never said or implied that i was sheeping chara on you; i said i wanted to know if they had an opinion so that i could bounce my read off of someoneIn post 251, Almost50 wrote:In post 215, Chara wrote:i'm putting some weight into skitter's Almost read, so we'll see where that goes.
So let me get this straight: You are sheeping skitter on me, and she is sheeping you on me?? Am I such a pain in the neck to read that everyone seems to be denying responsibility for a mere preliminary read based on tone/gut?
~A50
nor do i think i'm denying responsibility for the read
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i'm not entirely following the resurgence of the bef push tbh
it was bad the first time around and i don't get why it came back
i also don't think the composition of the neighborhood is really that interesting. there might be scum in there, there might not be; it's an inherently wifom-y discussion and there's really no way for me, from here, to tell at this stage so i'm not going to wonder about it too much rn
i think bef's paraphrase of the neighborhood was kinda townie tho
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redtea what's your mafia experience
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sorry, who is this?In post 257, Papa Zito wrote:From what I can tell I'm on the same wavelength withHis Majesty the Kingon most everything, which scares me a little bit.ShowHiatus once more.
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redtea's posts kinda feel like they're equivocating without actually saying much. or kinda like they're talking to talk? idk might be a playstle thing but like look at the number of words they're using to say ... not much at all really, or to cite someone else's opinion as a reason to think somethingIn post 269, implosion wrote:alright skitter is town probably. I agree with like all of the sentiment in her posts in the past couple pages. I am curious what she sees in redtea.
I could go for a flashwagon on a50. None of his posts yet have really made me feel anything at all.
All of the speculation about how many scum are in the neighborhood is dumb.
or like they'll ask questions and then do nothing with the answer
and i'm pushing a50 and papa zito is trying to wagon robert but there's like no interaction with these pushes really; makes me feel like the questions are there to look busyWhat are Almost50 and Robert's thoughts so far? Other than passive commentary and band talk.
i could flashwagon a50, sure
VOTE: a50
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also i'm not really vibing the chara townreads rnShowHiatus once more.
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i can't tell if like anything you say is sincere or notIn post 275, Enter wrote:implosion's right, i just got excited... all these new mechanics i've never been part of before.ShowHiatus once more.
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not sure why this makes you townread me really either?In post 278, Chara wrote:
alright, those are townpoints for skitter. provided she remembers coalition as well as i do.In post 276, skitter30 wrote:also i'm not really vibing the chara townreads rnShowHiatus once more.
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bolded: why do you say that?In post 285, redtea wrote:Wonder if Almost50 has a weird role, or just isn't interested in this game.
In post 284, Enter wrote:Yeah, you're right. I just got excited. I don't remember playing anything other than VT so I got a little excited getting to be in a hood. (although my game history says I was in a hood game once? My memory is shoddy)If scum dt didn't exist, I would think you were scum, and I was scum, based off of these kinds of exchanges.
italics: lowkey townie actually
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tbh i hadn't thought about coalition much coming into this game, but if i were scum here i'd probably try to mimic how i read you in the past as closely as i could in order to evoke this ^^^^ effectIn post 289, Chara wrote:
i think scum skitter would be more likely to townbin me considering my many statements last game. that you're not townreading me when i haven't done much AI yet (in spite of townreads on me) looks good for you.In post 280, skitter30 wrote:not sure why this makes you townread me really either?
your posting is good in general, too.ShowHiatus once more.
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I was about to say "What neighborhood" but then I realized this is not a comment on the neighborhood in this game.In post 304, skitter30 wrote:Hi my entire neighborhood has not had power at all today and i dont know when i'm getting it back; vla until i get power back
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not sure why you keep bringing up 3psIn post 316, redtea wrote:@skitter30 because Almost50 has said just about nothing useful the entire game despite having a presence. Maybe he is third party?
Related to that
VOTE: Almost30
Until he decides to respond to me.
also i don't think that's there's more than one scum in {redtea/a50}
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your last three votes have been on people that, if town, i consider lynchbaitIn post 325, Chara wrote:actually no, i'm a fool.
VOTE: minyu
he's still voting skitter and liked my explanation.
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this post feels scummy for a50In post 327, Almost50 wrote:
Why is it bad to leave a vote on someone -even you no longer SR them- when: A) You have not thought of a better wagon to join, and B) the wagon you're on isIn post 325, Chara wrote:actually no, i'm a fool.
VOTE: minyu
he's still voting skitter and liked my explanation.@L-5???ShowHiatus once more.
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there's kinda a lot i want to say to this but i don't really want to get into it rnIn post 341, Almost50 wrote:@skitter: Calling every post I make, every claim, every move & every vote scummy isn't healthy for me. I am starting to feel like you've applied to the "let's scum read A50" club. I've proved it to you once and once again that leaving me be on D1 is a good idea, and IF I'm still alive on D2 THEN you can come at me with all you've got. Your behaviour IN EVERY GAME WE PLAY TOGETHER is detrimental to my play style. I hope you get the subtle hint out of that.
but i didn't meant to piss you off, sorry if i did
actually i'm willing to give you some space till tomorrow
if i still think you're scum then tho i'm going to do the tunneling thing
VOTE: redtea
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idk. kinda hard to put into words.
it feels like he's found like a rhetorical point to push chara on when he doesn't seem to have a read on minyu. like it feels like he's defending/wk'ing minyu and idk why that's a thing that's happening here
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i was thinking about putting in a disclaimer that if i died people absolutely should go back to this convo
but i was debating back and forth whether or not scum!you would use it tomorrow to explain that my death was there to frame you
so i decided to just drop it and not induce the wifom
(i actually just scrolled up to check if i had ultimately included that line or not)
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yeah, both of them are kinda scummy to me rn. on balance i think they probably aren't scum together tho
(ie at this stage of the game i don't see anything contradictory or problematic with seeing them both as scum)ShowHiatus once more.
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probably townShowHiatus once more.
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although slightly weirded out by him sheeping me on redtea like that tbhShowHiatus once more.
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why's redtea town?
what do you think of me voting there?ShowHiatus once more.
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wait they're in the hood too?
i thought it was you/bef/persivul
i thought that this was for a 3person hoodIn post 270, Enter wrote:Yes, but
there are two ways to approach this:
1. Lynch outside hood to see if it comes up red (if so, and we can draw conclusions that the other is red, then inside is green)
2. Lynch scummiest inside hood to see if it comes up green (if two people come up green in hood, it's p safe to say the rest are green, IMO)
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i did alreadyIn post 360, mcqueen wrote:
can you explain why? I'll ISO him after I'm done, but I'd still like to hear your thoughtsIn post 242, skitter30 wrote:i think redtea is kinda scummy tbh
nothing they did really feels ai tbh? or like out of their scumrange? they haven't done anything that townie or hard for scum to fake imo and they agree that most of the things they've done are not ai so like i don't get why people are townreading themIn post 363, mcqueen wrote:
Why not? I'll admit I don't agree with them initially, but when I go back and read I always see where it comes from.In post 276, skitter30 wrote:also i'm not really vibing the chara townreads rn
i don't like their last few votes and i'm not sure i explicitly scumread them but i don't get what there is to townread them either
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idkIn post 370, Chara wrote:how is Almost asking me a fair question him pushing me? he was right.
feels like a bad post, don't think i can explain better than i did already really.
feels kinda like he's defending and/or wk'ing minhyu and i don't know why that's happening
wait why are you back at town!minhyu?In post 373, Chara wrote:ugh. ms ate my post. tonight isn't my night. i'll continue that thought tomorrow. the tl;dr is i'm back townleaning Minyu but i'm not happy about it. and that skitter is still towny.
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varsoon feels weird.
idk if that's ai at all but just thought i'd mention it
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him sheeping me on a50 kinda made sense because he had asked for a flashwagon prior to that and then i voted and he followed me there. but i guess once i decided i didn't want to do that i'm not sure why his vote followed mine again? so i guess it kinda surprised me because i wasn't aware that he was townreading me strongly enough and/or scumreading redtea enough to sheep me like that?In post 389, Chara wrote:
why is that?In post 352, skitter30 wrote:although slightly weirded out by him sheeping me on redtea like that tbh
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@a50 how are you reading me?
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hi elbirn!
i think you might be town
why are you townreading papa zito?
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1. the 3p thing has been mentioned by implosion already (and i maybe did too? i definitely noticed ti but id on't remember if i explicitly brought it up)In post 411, Enter wrote:So, your scum read on me is... playstyle doesn't vibe...
and your scum read on redtea is... she's too verbose? Ouch.
Please point out where she's 3p hunting.
I gotta admit, I wasn't a fan of your predecessor (not really posting anything at all, tbh), and the fact that you entered and your reasons are all made up and your reads don't matter doesn't make me like you any more.
VOTE: Elbirn
2. i don't know why you're not scumreading and/or voting me for voting redtea when i'm also pushing her and brought up the verbose/not-actually-saying-anything point like eight pages ago
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i mean yeah but like we don't know whether or not this game has a 3p or anything and you've brought up 3p hunting repeatedly and it's kinda strangeIn post 420, redtea wrote:I was hoping to comment this earlier but, the repeated mentioning of a third party was mostly an "open to possibilities" thing that I only took into serious consideration trying to get a read on a50. By that point I'd already brought it up a few times, so it does feel like I'm repeating myself.
Of course mentioning this doesn't change my standing.
Sorry for the nothing post, I'll have to come back to all this later today.
@Elbirn I understand the Chara read but could you explain implosion a bit?
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In post 437, Chara wrote:can someone who's been saying that redtea is talking a lot without saying anything (skitter or elbirn is who i remember) give me a post where she's doing that and explain it? because i've gone through her iso looking for it and i'm not sure what you mean.
a post like this one kindaIn post 211, redtea wrote:I wonder why Varsoon was so confident putting someone at L-1 since, by that point, he surely must have known his earlier vote was counted? The mod could've decided that if the night action submission wasn't explicit then it didn't count, and would not have fixed the VCs, especially if he later tried to take advantage of the fact. Just a bit of a gamble. Mcqueen is right in that being able to go voteless midday is pretty manipulative, and while that was't what was intended to happen, it effectively did.
Feels like I've been thinking too much about this I admit, don't want to put a magnifying glass on a piece of dust. At the moment, I'm wondering what his thought process there was exactly.
What are Almost50 and Robert's thoughts so far? Other than passive commentary and band talk.
like she went on about varsoon's possible motivations for the l1 vote without really engaging him about it directly
and citing mcqueen's opinion here feels kinda strange. like it doesn't really seem like she formed her own opinion, but rather that she's just just agreeing with something someone else said
doesn't really come to a conclusion about anything she's talked about here
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have you ever caught scum with this tell?In post 441, BrightEyedFish wrote:According to my own personal stats elbrin is scum for being the 3rd person on the redtea wagon and I TR redtea, so...
VOTE: Elbrin
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i still don't get scum!bef (even in his exchange with you right here he's pretty townie imo) and i don't get why this is coming back again reallyIn post 453, mcqueen wrote:Yeah because you’re scum and I thought you’d try to fake something.
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so do you think mcqueen is scummy?In post 459, Robert2424 wrote:Naked votes are lack of effort and scummy.
or is this literally just policy
(also is your explanation of 'policy' indicative of more effort than just naked-voting?)
remind me how much mafia experience you have again?In post 467, Robert2424 wrote:Because more often then not its a scum tactic, Happened in a recent game and I'm not going to change my mind simply cause you vote me. Surprise surprise who flipped scum that game too....
explain the difference to me, i'm not really following?In post 469, Robert2424 wrote:I voted for activity, there is a difference.
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robert's been here always; elbirn repped in for minhyuIn post 469, Robert2424 wrote:I voted for activity, there is a difference.ShowHiatus once more.
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can we try to consolidate wagons please given that deadlines in like four days?
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i would probably vote bef at deadline over a no lynch but i don't really want to
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ngl i think this is lowkey scummy but i guess i'll drop it till later or whateverIn post 480, Varsoon wrote:I went voteless because I wanted to.
I already told everyone why--asking me to share more is like trying to get blood from a stone.
Yeah, there might be more to what going voteless does for me mechanically,but if you keep digging, I'm going to think you're fishing rather than just questioning something odd.
We can hit majority easily enough without my vote. If it is a concern in the future, I'll be able to get my vote back, don't worry.
you did something that's kinda strange for a not-such-great reason and you're basically threatening people with a scumread if they question you too much
honestly i don't really care much inherently about your decision to go voteless but i don't like how you're responding to questions about it
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i'm starting to question my implosion townread a bit too
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no?
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Also, maybe I’m pushing too hard, but this feels weird, too. It’s so confrontational, yet so anti-confrontational at the same time.In post 452, BrightEyedFish wrote:My initial reaction was genuine in the fact that I felt your blind vote didn't warrant a reaction and that apparently wasn't enough for you.
it struck me as townie actually - like i kinda understand his pov: your vote on him didn't matter. you said it was wierd that he didn't react, so when you prompted him he asked you about it, and then you said his response was scummyIn post 501, mcqueen wrote:What has he done in the way of confronting others? He was very submissive to Enter’s early push, he acted the same towards me. He said he feels more comfortable/likes playing town better (can I interchange this with “confident?”), and he doesn’t seem very clmfortable/confident in this game.
like yeah i kinda get why he's frustrated in that exchange because you found him scummy whatever he did
i don't know if he's not being confrontational so much as he just doesn't care about your push on him, which is kinda townie imo
and he did pushback on enter's push
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not sure? i'm kinda looking down the list and like i have reservations about lynching most of those people. like there's a bunch of people that i'm kinda ~scum on but i wouldn't want to lynch rnIn post 503, mcqueen wrote:
Remind me who else besides redtea you are interested in?In post 476, skitter30 wrote:i would probably vote bef at deadline over a no lynch but i don't really want to
not really interested in elbirn rn
a50's still pretty scummy
i wouldn't object to a push on varsoon or persivul
i'm kinda losing my implosion townread, never really got a chara townread
i don't know if i actually want to lynch any of those people rn tho
oh and robert too. i'd switch there at deadline probably
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what do you think about robert?In post 509, redtea wrote:
I don't think it'sIn post 459, Robert2424 wrote:Naked votes are lack of effort and scummy.trulynaked. It's backed by opinions and doubts about him already expressed by others. Going where the wind takes him, sort of speak.
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like this post feels really really strangeIn post 519, redtea wrote:@BEF Varsoon/Elbirn is too obvious. Do they like to play with fire? Do you think they've slipped already?
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are you townreading either of them?In post 527, Varsoon wrote:And, really, a hesitation to townread any slot--can you go more into that? Even players like Zito and A50?
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actually never mind about persivul for now, 531 is pretty townie
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You shouldn't be playing with 2 alts in the same game, skitter.In post 532, Papa Zito wrote:I'll catch up at lunch today.
@Mod:Forgot to mention I have a standing V/LA on weekends, sorry.
you're kinda making me want to vote you again btw
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ok, who amongst that group do you think is scum?In post 551, Varsoon wrote:I hard gaurantee at least one of these prats badgering me over how I claimed is scum trying to rattle my cage.ShowHiatus once more.
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i think 572 is fairly townie
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i don't understand this question or what this is a reference tooIn post 576, Robert2424 wrote:So why is there a wagon on RedTea after I'm no long on him....?
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his tone is at best nai, if not actually scummyIn post 583, Varsoon wrote:Tone.ShowHiatus once more.
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redtea why are you still voting a50?
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i really really don't see itShowHiatus once more.
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also chara, why do you townread me?ShowHiatus once more.
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yeah i guess i'm kinda wondering what happened to the paranoia given coalition and the fact that you backup modded that game (which i forgot about it till last night)In post 597, Chara wrote:skitter: i thought i said why already, if not it's because of how your reads seem to be forming really organically. i was prepared to be extremely paranoid of you but instead i'm mostly confident you're just town. i've liked your takes as well, for the most part.
like i guess i haven't played enough with you to know whether the default is 'paranoid of me' - like i don't know if town!you *would* be paranoid, but i also don't know if you wouldn't
but last night i remembered that the last time we were tvt we were mutually paranoid so i guess i'm just wondering why that didn't happen here
also i guess if you were scum who was townreading me for being paranoid of you based on coalition you probably would try to approach me the same way town!you did in coaltion? ie since you were paranoid there scum!you would try to tap into that here? so the lack of it is kinda townie?
idk how well i explained that really, sorry; i don't really know if i have a conclusion on this, just kinda rambling through of my misgivings
yeah i guess if you see a big enough difference in my play here from there that explains itIn post 640, Chara wrote:oh and skitter: yes, it'spartiallybecause of the game that just finished, the only thing i was paying full attention to was the scumteam.
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oh this puts into words what i was trying to say about redtea's posting, i couldn't figure out how to articulate what was bothering me but it's just this ^^^^ there's a lot of speculation, and not much conclusion, engagement, or actionable thoughtIn post 598, implosion wrote:She has a strong tendency to say things that aren't actually meaningful analysis or reads, just speculation
i'm also really confused by the general lack of resistance ot the wagon given that only like ~2 people have stated townreads on her?
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In post 603, Varsoon wrote:I don't think that failure to have conviction is a scum tell either, so I don't understand how you can find your stance re: Red Tea defensible.If anything, Day 1 aimlessness is a trait I associate with town.
i mean sometimes? but the way she's behaving doesn't really feel like that aimlessness that comes from town trying to sort a pl and figure out their place in the gamestate
like it just feels like she doesn't know what to say
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i don't know why your'e pushing robert rn actually? or why you think his behavior is scummy? i can see why it might come across as inane or clueless or cog-dis-y but like i'm not sure why you think he's scum here honestly? or why you're pushing him so strongly over it?
also happy birthday!
lack of towniness != scummy and i think it's kinda fallacious to push someone on that basisIn post 615, Papa Zito wrote:There's nothing gut about it. Show me one redeeming post from that slot. One nugget that promotes a town agenda.
i don't; i think lumping 'failure to be town' together with 'being scummy' is dangerous and facilitates mislynchesIn post 636, Chara wrote:unpopular opinion, but i agree with Zito on that. i don't consider it policy because to me, failure to be town is the same as being scummy.
i don't think any of this is inherently scum indicative honestlyIn post 635, Papa Zito wrote:1. This slot has not engaged with the game in any meaningful way whatsoever.
2. This slot has not provided any information to the game whatsoever.
3. This slot has dodged attempts to make it do 1 or 2.
not actively sorting thhe pl, sure, but i've seen a lot of town players be like this so :shrug: it's not an inherently scummy trait
no, i don't want him around in lylo
yes, i much much prefer robert over a no lynch and i'd switch at deadline
but he isn't my preferred lynch and i can remain skeptical about the motivations of the people pushing this wagon and how this wagon is forming at the same time as not wanting him around in lylo and recognizing the inevitability of his probable lynch
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yeah so like basically this should have been a thing like late last week or so? i know you know how to tell the difference between my town game and scum game so i was kinda confused why you wouldn't answer a straight-up question as to whether or not you were townreading me because while i wasn't really expecting reasoning given ongoing games, i was expecting a townread; i'm not sure why you've been vote-parking me really given that context eitherIn post 605, Almost50 wrote:Ok, since "that game" is over, I can now declare skitter as a confident TR of mine. As annoying to me as she might be in this game, she has proven that she can't post like this as scum.
also like 341 was really really really confusing given the timing? since that post was fake and pre-arranged basically i couldn't tell where you were going with this one so i kinda dropped it but yeah
i don't know if you feel scummy any more; parts of what you've said this morning feel kinda townie for you actuallyIn post 607, Almost50 wrote:And you should know better. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. (I -of course- won't tell you what to look for. At least not until I can mimic my scum play as Town in this very aspect).
i'm kinda confused a bit tbh and i might just let this sit till like tomorrow and try again then? idk
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elbirn is like really townie
this also put into words like exactly why the robert push feels kinda :/In post 632, Elbirn wrote:Why the Robert scumread? I feel as though he's about to be the low-content, low-charisma, "Who is this guy again, oh shit deadline we need a lynch uhhh byebye" Day 1 obligatory mislynch. I don't see content worth scumreading, he's just sortofhere. Share your vision with me bbzShowHiatus once more.
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fair enough, fair enoughIn post 646, Chara wrote:
i mean, if i was just automatically paranoid of you a second time in spite of seeing a lot of your townplay in coalition, it'd mean i wasn't trying to improve my play or improve on how to read you. i was wary of your scumgame and your play seemed very "perfect", but i can see now that that's how town skitter behaves so now i'm able to focus on other things.In post 643, skitter30 wrote:yeah i guess i'm kinda wondering what happened to the paranoia given coalition and the fact that you backup modded that game (which i forgot about it till last night)
like i guess i haven't played enough with you to know whether the default is 'paranoid of me' - like i don't know if town!you *would* be paranoid, but i also don't know if you wouldn't
yeah he kinda got to what i wanted to say before i said itIn post 647, Papa Zito wrote:Thanks for repeating everything Elbirn said I guess.
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fair enough
i retract my a50 scumread, he's prob townShowHiatus once more.
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Can all 5 of you sitting on a vanity wagon, like, not be?ShowHiatus once more.
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Also if you're still scumreading bef can you explain why please?ShowHiatus once more.
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it's a vanity wagon because you're sitting on a one vote wagon that looks incredibly unlikely to get more support and deadline is in less than two daysIn post 668, Robert2424 wrote:@skitter, if you insist calling it a vanity wagon, if you want me to vote Redtea, explain the reasoning why he's likely scum cause he's a null read to me.
i can't even tell why you're scumreading mcqueen still tbh, and i don't really understand your readslist in this post either
redtea because she feels very passive; her posts don't say much; she's mostly speculating without coming to firm conclusions or engaging people or taking stances; i've called her out on this a bunch of times and she's never engaged me on it; she's not engaging th wagon on her or the people pushing her; she's not pushing her scumread (she's also sitting on a useless vanity wagon)
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@persivul i'll switch to robert before deadline if necessary
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tytyIn post 689, Almost50 wrote:
Just bc you asked nicely.In post 660, skitter30 wrote:Can all 5 of you sitting on a vanity wagon, like, not be?
VOTE: Redtea
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tytyIn post 692, mcqueen wrote:finna lift my vote for this post. took me too long to understand what the crap it meant.
idk, this doesn't seem faked and it's pointing that BEF is town (or unlikely, but potentially 3P, which is why he would townread redtea for asking about it)
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in you r recent post, you sound like you're scumreading robert
given that he's your cw i'm not entirely following why you don't just vote him instead of voting persivul?
there's like less than two days left, do you think a persivul wagon is viable rn?
and if you think persivul might be bussing robert why aren't you voting robert ... ?
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kinda vla till ~tuesday; i'm moving this weekendShowHiatus once more.
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...In post 713, redtea wrote:You know, I did think there was at least one vote on Persivul.
but why aren't you voting robert tho?ShowHiatus once more.
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yeah so this is like the one thing that's kinda townie from her iso because it's explicitly going against what i would be doing there as scumIn post 725, Papa Zito wrote:5. Therefore, redtea comes up with the perfect plan of starting a new wagon, and then promptly fails to push it, ensuring it will fail.
6. After noting that she thought the wagon wasn't actually new, she leaves her vote there anyway.
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can you say this sentence again? i'm not following what you're trying to say hereIn post 730, Enter wrote:I'm noticing correlations between my reads and the people who have posted in my neighborhood.
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i kinda like the composition fo the redtea wagon better than the robert wagonIn post 732, Xtoxm wrote:[5] redtea: skitter30, implosion, Chara, Almost50, BrightEyedFish
[3] Robert2424: Papa Zito, Persivul, Enter
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not sure if this is how scum reacts to being pushed here because of their mcqueen vote when they're actively being wagoned and there's an active cw to themIn post 740, Robert2424 wrote:Mcqueen is a policy, naking voting is crap and don't care what people say. It looks scummy to me, hence he's on my scum read.ShowHiatus once more.
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i don't particularly think that robert is flipping scum but a lynch needs to happen and we need time for claims and all that jazz and the redtea one has been curiously stalled despite me pushing it like forever so
VOTE: robert
if this flips town i'm pushing like everyone currently on the robert wagon tomorrow - elbirn + redteaShowHiatus once more.
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yepShowHiatus once more.
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? maybe i didn't convey what i'm saying well because i don't think either of you understood me
if robert flipped town i'd push: persivul, enter, papa zito and redtea
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i agree with 765 fwiw
i really just don't want to end up in a 6-6 scenario with varsoon being unable to vote and a no-lynch happening
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@papa zito
if robert is scum i don't think you bussed him; your push on him rn doesn't look like a bussing push
but if he's town you've basically spent the last few days corraling votes onto lynchbait who didn't actually do anything scummy while contributing to the resistance of a wagon on someone who actually *has* been scummy; i said this already but i find pushing someone day1 for 'lack of towniness' (ie as opposed to pushing someone for being actively scummy) to be incredibly suspect and how scum garner mislynches
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based on what redtea's said in this thread i don't see how she's garnering townreads rn
i don't know what she's said in the pt because i'm not in it so i can't really use that as a basis for figuring out who to lynch todayShowHiatus once more.
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