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Post Post #8725 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:46 am

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In post 8724, BrightEyedFish wrote:Just like he told you there were multiple BOONus rooms?
We were in a Boonus room and had activated people to be in boonus rooms that were not in our boonus room, vis-a-vis there were multiple Boonus Rooms. Additionally:
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BOONus Rounds• Along with the night phase, there will be the
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You yourself should have known that there were multiple Boonus rooms, given the start of game ruleset and basic math, since you were in a boonus room with us n1, and it did not have 9 players in it.

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Post Post #8726 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:48 am

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In post 8725, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8724, BrightEyedFish wrote:Just like he told you there were multiple BOONus rooms?
We were in a Boonus room and had activated people to be in boonus rooms that were not in our boonus room, vis-a-vis there were multiple Boonus Rooms. Additionally:
In post 2, Boonskiies wrote:
BOONus Rounds• Along with the night phase, there will be the
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18
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9 players
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Prizes
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anonymously
give to other players. To make it fair,
PRIORITY
will be given to players who have not been involved in these rounds as the game goes on.
You yourself should have known that there were multiple Boonus rooms, given the start of game ruleset and basic math, since you were in a boonus room with us n1, and it did not have 9 players in it.

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Yeah but on D2 you said Boon told you there were other rooms. Without mention of the guidelines.
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Post Post #8727 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:50 am

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I also remember your "if" comment.
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Post Post #8728 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:54 am

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So BEF, you think the scum team is Profii + Penguin + DrewVa and the game is solved or what? Where are you going with this?

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Post Post #8729 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:01 am

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@Creature
you still need to confirm if you got loud N2 thanks

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Post Post #8730 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:07 am

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bef why didnt you come forward with this earlier
did you realise you were in conflict with profii
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Post Post #8731 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:17 am

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VOTE: profii
he was in my town core too
if these both end up being town then TLK fucked us
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Post Post #8732 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:18 am

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Why profii over BEF?

Like even reading your previous two posts in isolation that was a weird vote...
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Post Post #8733 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:23 am

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because the logic points to him
BEF walking into a 1v1 that conf deaths him within 2 days seems less likely to come from scum
i dont mind going the other way if that is the preferable route
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Post Post #8734 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:30 am

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I'm mean...it's the opposite for me. profii was open about his role from the beginning...possibly why BEF wasn't but is now that we were starting to massclaim?
In post 8336, BrightEyedFish wrote:Ahh screw it. I don't need a mass claim right now, but I will go ahead and claim my role since I seem to be getting closer to the chopping block.
I also agree with Jingle that Sticky Fruit Vendor makes more sense as scum aligned.
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Post Post #8735 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:37 am

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its entirely possible that im giving bef more credit than he deserves
if drewva wants bef first i'll sheep it
we have a 1v1 i want to resolve it
so i picked the one that made more sense to me
i havent actually read far back enough to see his claim since you guys spammed the thread again, i just saw enough to gather the situation
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Post Post #8736 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:38 am

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In post 8694, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8693, profii wrote:
In post 8652, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8649, Thanos wrote:So this makes BEF scum? Wait how exactly again?
It means the crossclaim is a croasclaim it doesnt say the answer

1: profii lied and only sent fruit to tlk
2: bef fruited profii; ss jailed profii and bef fruited tlk

I think?

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2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

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Post Post #8737 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 8736, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8694, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 8693, profii wrote:
In post 8652, DrewVa wrote:
In post 8649, Thanos wrote:So this makes BEF scum? Wait how exactly again?
It means the crossclaim is a croasclaim it doesnt say the answer

1: profii lied and only sent fruit to tlk
2: bef fruited profii; ss jailed profii and bef fruited tlk

I think?

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2 doesn’t make sense to me unless we are all scum

I got the fruit

If I was in jail and BEF is scum he would know S_S jailed me

I’m confused?
Don't worry, I'm starting to think drew is flailing scum. Their planned mislynching of us has fallen apart. D has resorted to snorting in disbelief at most posts. Nancy has withdrawn from our tet-a-tet completely. They are running off the rails.
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or probably just scum. :]

That or you OD on BEF koolade.


Just trying to figure out which.
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Post Post #8738 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 8733, Xtoxm wrote:BEF walking into a 1v1 that conf deaths him within 2 days seems less likely to come from scum
As Jingle observed, it's safe to say that BEF was not aware he was walking into a mechanical 1v1 as either alignment -- if he was town he would have claimed as soon as our slot claimed Town Grifter (referred to by everyone as 'activate' lately), if he was scum it makes little sense for him to create this 1v1.

I have been trying to eliminate the possibility that this is somehow an NAR issue and that it's T/T, given BEF struck me as very townie in the way he claimed, however most options still come back to "one of the two has to be lying." If the sticky fruit could travel to multiple people in one night, that would mean he was lying about his role card afaik.

I have confirmed from Boon that profii could in fact target PP with sticky fruit and Creature with Loud the same night without multitasking, so there's no convenient scumclaim there that would settle this.

It would help if Creature actually confirmed whether or not he got the loud so that we could confirm that theory 2 is a real possibility.

Theory 1: Profii sent the sticky fruit to TLK and lied about it to implicate TLK and create a very confusing mechanical quasi 1v1 d2. Weird play as scum.

Theory 2: BEF sent the sticky fruit to Profii n1, then had S_S jail Profii n2, while sending the sticky fruit to TLK, thus generating a mechanical 1v1 between the supersaint and the variant role inventor.

Theory 3: There is some other explanation.

The problem with theory 3 is that, if the sticky fruit can only travel to one person each night as the role card on page 1 suggests, then I don't see how BEF is not lying about his rolecard for it to somehow end up at TLK. If BEF is a 'variant sticky fruit vendor' then he is lying about being a normal sticky fruit vendor.

Theory 4: Mod/human error.

No idea how to play around this, but we did get TLK to confirm his statements multiple times, and I feel like if Boon had actually made a mistake he would have said so real life weeks ago. I will say that I have asked the duck a couple questions about this, and his answers have on one key point actually differed from Boon's, so I don't think the mechanics of everything here is super obvious. (The duck was not aware that Profii could vend the sticky fruit to one person and still target creature with a separate night action without multitasking; boon said he could. Still not enough to make me think mod error, though, given boon's response matches profii's description of his choices at night.)

My top priority since this began has been eliminating the possibilty that Profii and BEF are both T/T and that this is not actually a true mechanical 1v1, but so far I see now way that is possible given the information we have at hand.

I have tried to eliminate the following risks:
-One of the three variant/boon roles is not a variant/boon role. As far as I can tell, all three must be variant/boon roles so a redirector cannot exist.

-The sticky fruit did not act as we expected. I don't see how this is possible; if the sticky fruit travels to each person who is targeting someone else, then it should have ended up on PenguinPower night 1. Profii has confirmed he still had the sticky fruit night 2.

-BEF did not understand his role. We have talked to BEF about his role at length at this point and I don't see how this is a possibility.

I keep trying to find something that makes this not a 1v1 and I keep coming up short. This is leaving me to conclude that either Theory 1 or Theory 2 is the most likely to be the case and this is an actual 1v1.

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Post Post #8739 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 8696, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8695, PenguinPower wrote:Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.
If you are scum then your loyal would have worked on scum!drew
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That’s right, scum!Penguin used loyal on us to create a hood because scum chat was too crowded.

You know there comes a point, where you have to stop believing that someone is the worst player in the history of Mafia and realize that they have to be scum.
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Post Post #8740 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:50 am

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i have ran through the possibilities too
either someone is lying in you/bef/profii
or tlk thought normal fruit and sticky fruit were the same thing
but he was asked repeatedly and he said sticky fruit
so i think we have to go with it
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Post Post #8741 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:50 am

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In post 8698, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 8696, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8695, PenguinPower wrote:Drew can't be scum unless you can explain to me how my loyal neighborizer shot worked on scum.
If you are scum then your loyal would have worked on scum!drew
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I obviously meant from the perspective that I'm town because...ya know...I know I'm town.

Wow...
BEF’s post, isn’t worth losing any brain cells over.

But he ironically gave me a good laugh. :lol:
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Post Post #8742 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:52 am

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have you 100% confirmed with the mod that your role is a variant?
activate is listed as a role in the opening mod posts
it sounds like you have but just to confirm
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Post Post #8743 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:54 am

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In post 8742, Xtoxm wrote:have you 100% confirmed with the mod that your role is a variant?
activate is listed as a role in the opening mod posts
it sounds like you have but just to confirm
As I have said, the word "activate" is not in our role card.

Our role name is "Town Grifter" which is not a role in post 0 and therefore seems like it must therefore be a variant. I asked the duck and he said "if it's not on page 1 it should be a variant" basically. I can try double checking with Boon again

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Post Post #8744 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:55 am

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In post 8730, Xtoxm wrote:bef why didnt you come forward with this earlier
did you realise you were in conflict with profii
Because I sent it to profii. He confirmed he received it on D2. My 1 shot was up. I can't say why it ended up with TLK on D3.

An earlier claim wouldn't have changed anything.
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Post Post #8745 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 8743, DrewVa wrote:As I have said, the word "activate" is not in our role card.
or not in our role name, anyway. it is in the mechanical text but not the role name at the top which is the part that seems to be important

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Post Post #8746 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:12 am

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If Creature pops in here and only comments on how stupid the stickyfruit discussion is can someone ask him to confirm whether he got the loud on n2 in case he just glazes over where I asked him about that

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Checking in to confirm I'm the Traitor again. I mean Miller. Bleh.
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Post Post #8748 (ISO) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:19 am

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