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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:06 am

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This is the classroom of Professor Hamilton Theodore Schmiggles III.

Our first lesson is
Persuasion (as Town)
, which will be in the next post. Students must raise their hands and be called upon before asking questions.
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:16 am

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Persuasion (as Town)


If you are town you have three goals:
1. Stay alive.
2. Find scum.
3. Get scum lynched or otherwise killed.

To accomplish your goals you must be able to pursuade others. Common approaches to persuasion include:
1. Screaming
2. Whining
3. Desperate pleading
4. Active lurking combined with naked votes
5. Presenting evidence-based cases that clearly articulate the reasons why a player is of a certain alignment.

Research shows that the first four methods are highly effective persuasion techniques, While the last technique will almost certainly result in your own lynch.
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Post Post #5 (isolation #2) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:52 am

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In post 3, Randomnamechange wrote:i disagree with point 1 of town goals. If you get nightkilled you are doing something right.
But you ded. And do you trust the other fools in the town to get it right?

Thank you for raising this objection. A future up upcoming topic will address this issue.
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Post Post #6 (isolation #3) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:17 am

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Lesson #2: Persuasion as Scum


Persuasion for scum is nothing more than getting town to believe you are town. Some might argue and say the job of scum is to get town to lynch each other. This ignores the cardinal rule of scum-play: Town is dumb and they will find their own mis-lynches without you guiding them.

There are several approaches to being town-read as a scum player. Popular tactics include:
1) PowerTown
2) 2Scum4Scum
3) Lurky McLurkFace
4) Fly under the radar
5) Play your town meta

Each of these will be effective in fooling certain players at certain times, but there is no one approach that will work consistently across a broad player base. Even playing your town meta is fraught with danger, because if done consistently this becomes your scum meta.

A better approach is to develop an ever-evolving meta that is consistent across alignments that focuses on making good reads and not being lynchbait. A player who has learned to avoid being town lynchbait is a player who can avoid being lynched as scum.
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Post Post #7 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:18 am

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Also, I should remind the class to please raise your hand and wait until called upon before making comments and asking questions.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:21 am

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Gamma is now the graduate assistant for this course.

His first lesson will be on
The Effects of Avatar Choice on Your Game
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Post Post #13 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:21 am

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In post 11, Vaxkiller wrote:Vaxkiller raises hand
Yes Vaxkiller?
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Post Post #17 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:23 am

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In post 15, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 6, Prof Hamm T Smiggles III wrote:Persuasion for scum is nothing more than getting town to believe you are town. Some might argue and say the job of scum is to get town to lynch each other. This ignores the cardinal rule of scum-play: Town is dumb and they will find their own mis-lynches without you guiding them.
*raises hand*
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Post Post #18 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:24 am

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Class feel free to discuss among yourselves this statement from our TA:
In post 14, Gamma Emerald wrote:As for reads, avatars don't really effect reads on you, but are sometimes used as explanations for scumreads anyways. If someone says they scumread your avatar ignore them, as they are most likely scum or town with no case trying to find something.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 20, Vaxkiller wrote:Can I go the the bathroom?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:23 am

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In post 21, Raskolnikov wrote:*raises hand*
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Post Post #33 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:23 am

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In post 31, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:*raises hand*
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Post Post #39 (isolation #12) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:26 am

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In post 34, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: Why will #5 always result in my own lynch?
That was hyperbole.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #13) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:27 am

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In post 36, TierShift wrote:*raises hand*
In post 37, Alisae wrote:/me cuts off Tier's hand.
*calls campus security*
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Post Post #42 (isolation #14) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:40 am

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Yes, Narna?
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Post Post #44 (isolation #15) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:45 am

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This is very dependent on personal playing style, but in general terms you should refrain from shitposting when you want to court the vote of a Very Serioustm player who requests that you calm down. But let's be honest. Very Serioustm players are no fun to play with so maybe just never stop shitposting.

Also, I'm not a Sir or a Mr.
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Post Post #47 (isolation #16) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:35 am

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WHY HASN'T CAMPUS SECURITY ARRIVED?!?!?
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Post Post #49 (isolation #17) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:47 am

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Yes, Lil?
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Post Post #52 (isolation #18) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:04 am

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In post 50, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Mind games. How do you effectively use them when it comes to mafia?
This depends on alignment.

If you're town you should almost always avoid mind-games. Other players will scum-read you for acting weird. Even worse, you are at an information disadvantage versus scum. So while the purpose of a mind-game is to sow confusion or disorient your opponent, you have a significant handicap trying to pull this off versus scum. Town usually hurts itself when it tries to be sneaky.

As scum the question of mind-games is more complicated so we'll leave that for later.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #19) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:04 am

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In post 51, schadd_ wrote:
/raises hand vigorously
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Post Post #59 (isolation #20) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:25 am

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In post 54, schadd_ wrote:can i go to the bathroom?
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Post Post #60 (isolation #21) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:25 am

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Yes, Cromulent Simpsons Quote?
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Post Post #61 (isolation #22) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:25 am

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In post 56, Errantparabola wrote:*raises hand*
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Post Post #62 (isolation #23) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:26 am

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WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS?!?!
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Post Post #63 (isolation #24) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:26 am

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In post 58, PeregrineV wrote:*raises own hand*
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Post Post #72 (isolation #25) » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:00 am

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Yes, Accountant?
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Post Post #99 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:00 pm

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In post 96, T S O wrote:Theo has been deported back to Venezuela. Class is dismissed.
This is a lie. I was not deported, I was hamster-napped and forced to run in a wheel to power T S O's computer. Due to recent events, T S O no longer has need for a computer and became lax with security measures. I escaped and make a long difficult journey to freedom.

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Post Post #106 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:24 am

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In post 103, mhsmith0 wrote:*holds up the skeletal remains of tier's hand*
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Post Post #112 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:34 am

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In post 107, mhsmith0 wrote:What happens when you're scum in a game where the town ISN'T a gigantic collection of morons? And in those cases, what is your best recommendation for how to drive (or at least achieve) mislynches?
Town is
always
a gigantic collection of morons who will eat themselves alive. Don't get me wrong, there are many excellent town players who have instinctively good reads, solid analysis, and are persuasive. But all it takes is one bad townie and Town becomes a gigantic collection of morons. This is illustrated by the Sewage PrincipleTM: A barrel of sewage is still sewage no matter how much fine wine is added, and a barrel of the finest wine is turned to sewage by one ounce of sewage.

If you insist on making me offer advice on this mythical world where a non-moronic Town exists, here is one (impossible to pull off) approach: Form a townbloc with the
entire
scumteam and let the townies fight each other to get inside. They'll never see it coming unless they read it here first.

Or replace out due to IRL problems, leaving your partners to their inevitable loss, and /in to the next game you find.
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Post Post #113 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:36 am

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