Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[PvtUrist]

Formal dance invitation to teh Gamma

[Firebringer]

But if Gamma doesn't pair, you don't get a chance to get rid of it. Vedith just swoops in with VOTE: Moment and it's lights out.

or here is a plausible alternative.
as soon as dance starts I leave before vedith posts because I am more active and can do that before he does anything.

but I would be lying if I said I don't want to hear him out in the PT first before I do anything but if gamma doesn't pair that is likely what i am gonna do.

[Something_Smart]

If Gamma doesn't pair, that's probably a good idea, yeah.

But Gamma's got an offer now and she's online so I don't see why she wouldn't.

[DoubtingThomas]

fire. do you have reads list?

I reckon you are not too confident of your vedith town read anymore?

[DoubtingThomas]

But if Gamma doesn't pair, you don't get a chance to get rid of it. Vedith just swoops in with VOTE: Moment and it's lights out.

or here is a plausible alternative.
as soon as dance starts I leave before vedith posts because I am more active and can do that before he does anything.

but I would be lying if I said I don't want to hear him out in the PT first before I do anything but if gamma doesn't pair that is likely what i am gonna do.

why did you pair up with him if you are just gonna do this

also what does gamma pairing exactly uh change this premise that vedith is scum who might yolobomb?

[Nancy Drew 39]

why would I ever

want to lynch myself when i don't need to lynch myself

Well, I definitely won't sheep you while you're alive. I don't know about anyone else.

I’m honestly perplexed by this. You either agree with RC’s reads or you don’t. How does him being dead, have jack to do with anything?

[Firebringer]

But if Gamma doesn't pair, you don't get a chance to get rid of it. Vedith just swoops in with VOTE: Moment and it's lights out.

or here is a plausible alternative.
as soon as dance starts I leave before vedith posts because I am more active and can do that before he does anything.

but I would be lying if I said I don't want to hear him out in the PT first before I do anything but if gamma doesn't pair that is likely what i am gonna do.

why did you pair up with him if you are just gonna do this

also what does gamma pairing exactly uh change this premise that vedith is scum who might yolobomb?

I love to leave my lovers is why

[RadiantCowbells]

why would I ever

want to lynch myself when i don't need to lynch myself

Well, I definitely won't sheep you while you're alive. I don't know about anyone else.

I’m honestly perplexed by this. You either agree with RC’s reads or you don’t. How does him being dead, have jack to do with anything?

because he wants to bully town me into letting myself get lynched whenever he wants so that he can tell that I'm scum when I refuse

[DoubtingThomas]

But if Gamma doesn't pair, you don't get a chance to get rid of it. Vedith just swoops in with VOTE: Moment and it's lights out.

or here is a plausible alternative.
as soon as dance starts I leave before vedith posts because I am more active and can do that before he does anything.

but I would be lying if I said I don't want to hear him out in the PT first before I do anything but if gamma doesn't pair that is likely what i am gonna do.

why did you pair up with him if you are just gonna do this

also what does gamma pairing exactly uh change this premise that vedith is scum who might yolobomb?

I love to leave my lovers is why

help me understand your thought porcessplease i already dont get the mechanics too well

[Firebringer]

like I have mastered the fifty ways to leave your lover.
I know how to slip out the back jack

[Something_Smart]

I’m honestly perplexed by this. You either agree with RC’s reads or you don’t. How does him being dead, have jack to do with anything?

I only partly agree with his reads, but that's irrelevant. What matters is that I trust that, if town, his reads are right. But I can't be sure that he's town until he's flipped, and I can't read him, and I have only limited faith in the ability of anyone to read him.

Ank townreading him does count for a fair amount. But I don't know enough about Ank's experience with him to say for sure that he couldn't fool her.

[Something_Smart]

because he wants to bully town me into letting myself get lynched whenever he wants so that he can tell that I'm scum when I refuse

RC between you and me, exactly one of us makes extensive use of bullying as a scum tactic, and it ain't me.

Think about it. If I were scum, would I really be trying to mislynch

YOU

of all people? How would that be anything other than a suicide mission?

[RadiantCowbells]

did i call you scum? i didn't make any commentary on your alignment.

[DoubtingThomas]

SS, do you have a coherent list of where everyone stands?

I shamelessly admit I have read maybe ~10% of the thread. I know that's really poor of me, but I plan to read a lot more/go back ISO pending on flips. Would like to underestand where you stand for each people

[Ankamius]

I’m honestly perplexed by this. You either agree with RC’s reads or you don’t. How does him being dead, have jack to do with anything?

I only partly agree with his reads, but that's irrelevant. What matters is that I trust that, if town, his reads are right. But I can't be sure that he's town until he's flipped, and I can't read him, and I have only limited faith in the ability of anyone to read him.

Ank townreading him does count for a fair amount. But I don't know enough about Ank's experience with him to say for sure that he couldn't fool her.

I think I have more games reading RC correctly than incorrectly, but I don't think I'm skilled enough at reading him to be worth blind-sheeping or anything tbh

like generally I think I would be able to pin down his alignment, but it could take quite a while

[Something_Smart]

did i call you scum? i didn't make any commentary on your alignment.

I mean, what you described in 4232 isn't something that I (or most people) would ever do as scum, so you implied it. If you don't think I'm scum, then that's good, but don't assume that I might be town and still have an ulterior motive beyond what's stated, because I don't like to manipulate people for no reason.

SS, do you have a coherent list of where everyone stands?

I kinda feel like I should wait for the PT to answer this, no? That's exactly what we should be using it for...

[Gamma Emerald]

Formal dance invitation to teh Gamma

Acknowledging I have seen this. Want to talk a little first though. Pvt, I'm already town reading you (though the read was formed a while a go so it could go with review), so I want to hear some thoughts from you about reads and/or the gamestate.
Btw I did some background checking and Allo does post in the early morning (my time), which means he could respond in time. But I would rather stay up late than get up early so Urist is looking like my choice.

[Pink Ball]

Saying that his reads are right if he's town is giving him a huge burden. Like, if he's wrong after someone flips, you go and lynch him for being wrong and if he flips town, you go and say "oh ok justified because his read on bleh was wrong".

Either you get your own reads and see if RC's reads are close to yours, or just wait to get a better read on him. But using that level or BoP is unfair. RC is good, but not Pink Ball good

[Ankamius]

just as an example, my last two times playing with RC before this game were

a. correctly locktowning him within 10-20 pages
b. not having really any read of him in the time he was in the game; his successor was a townread until the slot was confscummed though

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that if you truly have no ulterior motives than you're a wolf. There's a middle ground where you don't realize what you're doing, but you're doing a thing.

[Pink Ball]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

[DoubtingThomas]

did i call you scum? i didn't make any commentary on your alignment.

I mean, what you described in 4232 isn't something that I (or most people) would ever do as scum, so you implied it. If you don't think I'm scum, then that's good, but don't assume that I might be town and still have an ulterior motive beyond what's stated, because I don't like to manipulate people for no reason.

SS, do you have a coherent list of where everyone stands?

I kinda feel like I should wait for the PT to answer this, no? That's exactly what we should be using it for...

We can't wait for PT, sure.

I am just a pretty transparent person so I tend to sometimes go overboard and explain/talk about my reads out loud in the thread. sometimes to help my ownself understand what I am exactly thinking about. If you want to wait for PT, we can.

I also fear, however, that I might accidentally out a lot of the information in the real thread about things we discussed? so you might want to make it clear to me on what you don't want me to talk about tho

i also think when we are pushing scums/explain our town reads, the stuff i am asking you right now ought to be spoiled in the main thread

[Gamma Emerald]

just as an example, my last two times playing with RC before this game were

a. correctly locktowning him within 10-20 pages
b. not having really any read of him in the time he was in the game; his successor was a townread until the slot was confscummed though

I assume b is Lynch the Wolves

[Ankamius]

just as an example, my last two times playing with RC before this game were

a. correctly locktowning him within 10-20 pages
b. not having really any read of him in the time he was in the game; his successor was a townread until the slot was confscummed though

I assume b is Lynch the Wolves

a was fallout 4
b was lynch the wolves

[Nancy Drew 39]

But if Gamma doesn't pair, you don't get a chance to get rid of it. Vedith just swoops in with VOTE: Moment and it's lights out.

or here is a plausible alternative.
as soon as dance starts I leave before vedith posts because I am more active and can do that before he does anything.

but I would be lying if I said I don't want to hear him out in the PT first before I do anything but if gamma doesn't pair that is likely what i am gonna do.

why did you pair up with him if you are just gonna do this

also what does gamma pairing exactly uh change this premise that vedith is scum who might yolobomb?

I love to leave my lovers is why

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