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Post Post #15 (isolation #0) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:15 am

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VOTE: Persivul
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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:17 am

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I won the last tree game. I wonder if I can win again? :?
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Post Post #18 (isolation #2) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:35 am

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I was Arsonist :)
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Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:26 am

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I'm soooooo Foresty :o
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Post Post #35 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:36 am

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I don't think everyone thinks the same as you do about me, so I thought that's what he was asking about.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:37 am

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In post 33, Persivul wrote:Voting lovebird because
I'm
disrespectful?

VOTE: bujaber
You think that's scummy? Just seems like his rvs and the top line aren't related.

Idk, you expect him to policy lynch you?
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Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:39 am

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Oh, I get it.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:33 am

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In post 79, themilkcartonkid wrote:They were 100% seeing where the pressure went, this makes no sense as a scumhunting vote. You are also ignoring sheep by this vote and this is super scummy VOTE: slaxx
Lol, the omgus.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:36 am

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In post 88, rb wrote:why is persivul so different this game
In post 89, rb wrote:r u teh scumz
Ya, he's playing super weird. Like, he's scummy, but it looks almost intentional. So, I'm not sure what to think.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:41 am

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Slaxx towny. Maybe egix and tttt too. I'm OK with my vote rn, but milk is good wagon that I might switch to.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #10) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:44 am

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In post 125, Persivul wrote:
In post 116, Slaxx wrote:You see how easy it is to deflect with semantics?
Yeah it's almost as easy as saying
but it was a reaaaaaction test...
Everyone always says this, but I don't think I ever seen scum lie and say something was reaction test when they didn't intend it.

So, don't think that's good reason to scumread Slaxx
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Post Post #305 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:49 am

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In post 133, Slaxx wrote:VOTE: Bujaber
You're townreading milk or just want to pressure different wagon? I don't see town milk, from that interaction.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #12) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:52 am

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In post 149, TTTT wrote:that's a decent observation tbh
I like the L1 pressure vote on you, and L1 vote on milk.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #13) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:52 am

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Oh, I quoted the wrong thing. It was supposed to be this
In post 148, Egix96 wrote:
In post 99, Lovebird wrote:Slaxx towny. Maybe egix and tttt too. I'm OK with my vote rn, but milk is good wagon that I might switch to.
Why is 4Ts town for you? I think he's been being pretty opportunistic with his votes.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #14) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:54 am

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In post 150, Persivul wrote:
In post 144, BuJaber wrote:
In post 138, themilkcartonkid wrote:UNVOTE: slaxx
This has been very productive
In post 139, TTTT wrote:yes it has
UNVOTE:

Why does this make me feel it was scum theater?
Let's see... Scum theater involves people going back and forth. Here, TTTT just added a metoo. So, it's not theater.

So, you say it feels like scum theater because you're scum under pressure and feel like you need to say something.
What?

That's less believable than the scum theater idea :lol:
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Post Post #310 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:55 am

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In post 159, themilkcartonkid wrote:
In post 157, Slaxx wrote:Egix is town
Slax, do you have any other reads?
In post 160, themilkcartonkid wrote:
In post 151, BuJaber wrote:Milk and Slaxx is scum theater.

I quoted TTTT to show it working.
What gives the impression of scum theater?
Idk. I still don't see it, Slaxx.
In post 162, Egix96 wrote:
In post 157, Slaxx wrote:Egix is town
Ehhhhhh. If I be honest, I don't think anything I've done so far this game is outside my scumrange. So I think you're towning me a bit too easily there.
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Post Post #312 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:00 am

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In post 180, themilkcartonkid wrote:
In post 177, Vedith wrote:This part is boring.
VOTE: vedith why is buj maybe town?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:06 am

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In post 204, rb wrote:why is milk not dead yet
In post 206, rb wrote:why do we wanna vote bujaber again
In post 207, rb wrote:bujaber who are your top scumreads
Rb is also playing kind of scummy :?
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Post Post #314 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:07 am

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In post 208, BuJaber wrote: I think Persivul is scummy but I want him to be town because it means he didn't catch me last game because of skill or anything that I did wrong but because of his bias against the type of player I am. He just scumreads everything so might as well just flip a coin to see if Persivul is right or wrong about me next time we play.
Wow, this is really towny. Slaxx, Idk why you scumread Bu.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:14 am

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In post 222, Persivul wrote:
In post 98, Lovebird wrote:Ya, he's playing super weird. Like, he's scummy, but it looks almost intentional. So, I'm not sure what to think.
Consider the setup.
I don't understand.
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Post Post #318 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:18 am

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In post 226, Persivul wrote:I can't figure out whether to move my vote to rb or lovebird. Bujaber will be sortable in time. Those two - probably not.
You think I'm not sortable? Why?
In post 247, themilkcartonkid wrote:Okay, here's the way I see things. Slaxx is town. I read his iso again and his response to me was very town.
Vedith is leaning town.
TTTT is leaning town rn, but is still mainly null
rb and lovebird are leaning scum for lurking
Pers and buj are... complicated. I want one to flip if we get to the end of the day.
I'm not lurking :?

Why do you townread vedith? Where's egix?
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Post Post #319 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:19 am

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In post 254, Persivul wrote:
In post 241, themilkcartonkid wrote:Having trouble with my IP address on my mobile? I don't know when that will be resolved, but I won't be as active because of it. However, I cannot sort the following:
rb
TTTT
Vedith
Love

THe rest are in a sudoku-esque solved tower and my strongest townlean is slaxx rn, but it's a weak townlean. can you guys focus on getting more and better stuff from these guys/gals/robots? vedith's above post is a good example of "more"
So, out of 8 players:
Can't sort 4.
Other 4 are in a solved tower...which is really just 1 weak townlean.

I don't have a problem with that per se at this stage of the game, but why did he bother posting it at all? Seems LAMIST.
In post 255, Persivul wrote:
In post 247, themilkcartonkid wrote:Okay, here's the way I see things. Slaxx is town. I read his iso again and his response to me was very town.
Vedith is leaning town.
TTTT is leaning town rn, but is still mainly null
rb and lovebird are leaning scum for lurking
Pers and buj are... complicated. I want one to flip if we get to the end of the day.
Then, 6 posts later...an update, featuring scum leans on the lurkers.
Ya, these are good points.
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Post Post #320 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:21 am

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In post 256, Slaxx wrote:Persivul baiting the lynch (I’m assuming since we discussed this publically you won’t get mad) is a towntell to me. I thought about doing it but realized with this game was going I’d rather not. I think he’s probably town.
Ooooohh. So, that's what you meant?

Wow. Never thought of that :)
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Post Post #321 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:22 am

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But, where did you guys talk about it?
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Post Post #323 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:31 am

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OK, I'm caught up. I townread TTTT, Slaxx, Egix and I still think Bu is towny. So, I still think milk is a good vote.

Don't really want to vote Bu. I don't understand the wagon.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #25) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:42 pm

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Hi everyone. Doing some reviewing :)
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Post Post #510 (isolation #26) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:43 pm

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In post 398, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Slaxx
In post 399, Slaxx wrote:VOTE: slaxx
In post 401, Slaxx wrote:I’m really fucking confident on Buja-scum.

If I’m wrong I’m fine with the fact I gamethrew.
In post 402, Vedith wrote:UNVOTE: Slaxx
Ill think more tomorrow as it's 5 30am
I think this is pretty towny from Vedith. Seems like a real thought, doesn't seem like scum unvotes.
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Post Post #511 (isolation #27) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:47 pm

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In post 420, Persivul wrote:
In post 417, themilkcartonkid wrote:I feel strongly that at least 1 is not a vocal player
<cough>Lovebird</cough>
You think I'm scummy, or you think you can just shade me for being busy? :?
In post 422, Persivul wrote:
In post 421, themilkcartonkid wrote:You hammered me with no claim and you self voted d2 with no scum caught. Both of those are strictly anti town.
Anti-town, yes, but scummy? Everyone cries scum when someone hammers like that, but if lynched that person almost always flips town.
In post 424, Persivul wrote:
In post 422, Persivul wrote:Anti-town, yes, but scummy? Everyone cries scum when someone hammers like that, but if lynched that person almost always flips town.
Actually re-reading the end of that day, that was horrible.

VOTE: slaxx
How did you change your mind so quickly? What changed rereading?
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Post Post #512 (isolation #28) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:48 pm

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In post 451, rb wrote:didn't really expect to rush the day tho did i

everyone complaining about lurkers when you end the day in less than 20% of its length, over a weekend no less - should feel dumb and bad
In post 452, rb wrote:if i die, vedith/bujaber/persivul

lovebird i rly dunno, they lurk as either alignment so it's a gamble
In post 453, rb wrote:if slaxx flips town we lynch buja tomorrow
Giving reads before thread is locked, towny.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #29) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:50 pm

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In post 476, BuJaber wrote:Think about this. Scum are confident enough they don't need the vote advantage that they didn't ignite.
This could mean one or a combination of the following:
-all 3 primed players are alive, for a chance to win tonight if we mislynch a non-primed player
-they are confident they won't be lynched
-they primed slaxx before (doubtful)
Does this make sense? I thought scum are supposed to wait as long as they can to kill in this setup. And, I think it could be that slaxx got primed.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:52 pm

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In post 477, BuJaber wrote:Why does rb's latest string of posts read townie to you milk?
He's been townreading love too early in the game then started to lessen that read.

He thought slaxx was town but didn't try to stop the lynch in any meaninful way. Just set me up as the fall guy when I was nowhere near hammering both day 1 snd day 2 wagon, and unlike most other voters actually continued to engage the people I'm voting.
How can you say he didn't try to stop the lynch, when rb wasn't really around before hammer yesterday?
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Post Post #515 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:54 pm

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In post 487, Egix96 wrote:
In post 481, TTTT wrote:I'd like to apologize for my lack of effort
this game deserves better dammit!
I'll check back in 48 hours so make sure someone is at L-1 for me
preferably Buj
thanks!
lol

Anyway, here's where my head's at
I think there's one scum in (BuJ, Vedith, LB) and one scum in (rb, 4Ts, Persi)
i.e. no more than one in each group
Why those groups?

Who are your townreads?
In post 488, Vedith wrote:Well I think both Scum are in th you and Lovebird. Maybe TTTT at a push.
BuJ and Pers most likely town though
Was this the scumteam solve you had to wait to say from yesterday?
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Post Post #516 (isolation #32) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:59 pm

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Okay. I think TTTT and rb are still town. So, there's scum in Bu, Vedith, Persivul, TTTT. Though, I also lean TTTT town.

I think, if Bu is scum, his buddy is bussing him. He's been suspected since Day 1, so scum would have planned around it.

And, I think Persivul makes a lot of sense as scum that way.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #33) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:01 pm

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So, Day 1 Persivul suspects Bu and wants him lynched.
In post 264, Persivul wrote:
In post 260, BuJaber wrote:Persivul I got mad because...
I. Don't. Care. Why. You're. Mad.

Long defense posts only make me more suspicious of you.

You're only at L-3.
If you're FF you get out of jail free.
If you're tree and you get lynched, you're still here, and you're conftown.

So why are you so defensive?
In post 267, Persivul wrote:You seem afraid to me - more concerned with pressure on yourself than with actually pushing scum reads.
In post 285, Persivul wrote:@buj: You sure don't sound like someone who doesn't care because they'll be a conftown stump. You sound bitter.
But then, Day 2, he doesn't even talk about reads at first. It's just random LAMIST comment, and shading me for being busy.
In post 416, Persivul wrote:The initial flurry of votes is concerning. This isn't a blitz. Day 1 we lynched a tree who wasn't particularly scummy with plenty of time left on the clock. Can we slow it down a bit? The pace is benefiting scum, not town.
In post 420, Persivul wrote:
In post 417, themilkcartonkid wrote:I feel strongly that at least 1 is not a vocal player
<cough>Lovebird</cough>
In post 422, Persivul wrote:
In post 421, themilkcartonkid wrote:You hammered me with no claim and you self voted d2 with no scum caught. Both of those are strictly anti town.
Anti-town, yes, but scummy? Everyone cries scum when someone hammers like that, but if lynched that person almost always flips town.
And then randomly, he changes his mind and hops on Slaxx wagon.
In post 424, Persivul wrote:
In post 422, Persivul wrote:Anti-town, yes, but scummy? Everyone cries scum when someone hammers like that, but if lynched that person almost always flips town.
Actually re-reading the end of that day, that was horrible.

VOTE: slaxx
In post 426, Persivul wrote:
In post 425, themilkcartonkid wrote:Again I want to reiterate two things:
1. Lurkers should be pressured FIRST
2. the scum case on slaxx is not even mostly about the lolhammer. It's about the scummy 1v1, self vote, and wanting to throw the game over a 1v1.
Thinking about it more, the hammer was super bad. This is an open setup in which a FF claim and no CC makes a conftown. If he's tree, he risked costing us that advantage. It's doubtful he's FF himself. The implication of his self vote was that he wasn't concerned about being lynched, because he'd still be here as a stump.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:02 pm

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So, I think that maybe plan was to bus Bujaber day 2, but Persivul saw that Slaxx was getting lynched instead of Bu like they thought, so he didn't have to. So, that's why he did the sudden 180.
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Post Post #521 (isolation #35) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:04 pm

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In post 517, BuJaber wrote:How do we know he wasn't around?
It was a quick dayphase, sure, but there was plenty of time to post.

Pedit - so TT is town, but scum, but town?
How do you know he was? If you're saying it's scummy that he didn't stop something.

Oh, I meant to say Egix and rb..
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Post Post #522 (isolation #36) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:04 pm

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Ah, I typed it badly.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #37) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:05 pm

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In post 520, BuJaber wrote:So TTTT / lovebird is a thing now.

Lovebird if you're town you really should be suspicous of rb. How do you not question his townread of you? How would he know.

Though I agree about persivul. He's 2nd scummiest after TT.
He townreads me? :?

I thought, he said he doesn't know.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #38) » Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:09 pm

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Idk, I feel like it's towny reaction. Like, "omg, why did you guys lynch my townread!"

I've felt it before :)
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Post Post #694 (isolation #39) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:58 pm

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Hi, I read up. I'm not the firefighter. Rb, I think is definitely town though from his not believing.

I think this makes it as easy as Bu and Persivul, like I said before.

VOTE: Bujaber
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Post Post #695 (isolation #40) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:58 pm

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Did we get a replacement for persivul yet?
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Post Post #696 (isolation #41) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:59 pm

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I didn't see anyone new posting.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:04 pm

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Hm. I guess it could be that Persivul is the firefighter and Vedith is fakeclaiming... But, I don't really think so.

Though, I think scum can quickhammer and win today if they didn't get stopped by firefighter?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #739 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:50 pm

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VOTE: rb
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Post Post #746 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:56 pm

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Post Post #751 (isolation #45) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:59 pm

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I'm not scum. Self voting is a scumclaim. Idk, rb's whole interaction with you felt really bad, and I didn't want him to unvote and maybe we'd lose the chance to lynch him. Especially, if you wanted to lynch me instead.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #46) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:00 pm

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Idk. I'm sorry if I lost us the game. I just, paniced a little.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #47) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:02 pm

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Well, my first thought was it's just you're scum and you need me dead. But if rb is scum, I guess I'm not sure if you're scum. So, it would just be that you're misreading me this game.

Maybe, it could be that you're bussing him or this is theater, but IDK.
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Post Post #761 (isolation #48) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:03 pm

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I think I messed up :(
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Post Post #775 (isolation #49) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:10 pm

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I know you're good at getting lynches. And you wanted me dead.

I really really didn't want it where my lynch is what loses town the game again, and self voting is usually from scum...
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Post Post #778 (isolation #50) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:15 pm

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I wish I could've been around for this game more. I hope it's not over.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #51) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:21 pm

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I'm not scum.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #52) » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:26 pm

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In post 788, RadiantCowbells wrote:i mean lovebird just /inned to another game

so i'm going to assume she's fairly confident that scum won tonight

i'll check out now
What does that have to do with this game? :?
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #53) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:06 am

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I didn't win again. Replacements are so annoying :?

Ya, you can release scum thread

GG :)
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