Open 749 | Vengecop - Over!

[northsidegal]

Votecount 2.3

Target	Wagon
Micc (2)	Dannflor (345), Draco Lucky (364)
Not Voting (7)	xwing, BBMolla, Dr Worm, PenguinPower, RadiantCowbells, Micc, Vedith (341)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-02-25 20:55:59).

Mod Notes:

xwing is V/LA on weekends.

[Dr Worm]

Heck, I liked the idea of an overkill wagon but wasn't dead set on it. And even if I voted I would have been off it the second Dr Worm indicated they were thinking about hammering. Like what good is a pressure wagon if you hammer the person before they even respond to it? I think that lynch was lucky and that scum are on the wagon.

PONGYPOWER was the ENTIRE time DR WORM was POSSESSED to HAMMMER!! but DIDN"T unvote!!

IS PONGYPOWER BAD in MICC"S BRAIN??

[PenguinPower]

RC, I would like your thoughts on rainbow reads in general.

I would also like to know if you want to be #00FF00 in my rainbow reads.

i just watched al neri shoot fredo

Never watched the movie.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Penguinpower

good lynch im out.

[PenguinPower]

Aww...I though we could be friends.

[RadiantCowbells]

go watch the godfather movies and then we can be friends

[PenguinPower]

Fair.

[Draco Lucky]

We have RC in our PoE, and frankly it would be absurd to not have the 0 post count slot in a poe. We've had him as possible scum by poe since like my first reads list. Not sure why there is confusion here. Are you town reading RC?

It's more of a laughing matter.
So explain to me on all of the town reads. Since you have spent time discussing this.
Did you both agree with each others reads?

Well I don't dislike what RC is saying. Plus, Scum will have to deal with him sooner than later as town so I'm not worried.

How is it a laughing matter?

Micc - There are a few instances where Micc's posting around Ok's wagon looks sus af. He complains about BBmolla wagon not being a thing, asks for someone to convince him to join the dann wagon right after dann made a super townie post. He also fed OK a softball question about mechanics. There's not much good to offset the bad, either. In 239 he ignored our OK push and instead focused on PP.

PP - Which is actually why we think PP is only likely to be scum if Micc flips town. Outside of that, PP's iso is still not town-indicative, and his position on the wagon and vote hop prior to gettin on OK could def be a bus.

BBmolla - We don't see any reason why BBmolla's naked vote on OK couldn't have been a bus. We actually think it would be pretty lulzy, and not at all impossible for two scum to have bussed OK. If this was the case, and because we don't see PP + Micc as a thing, and because we don't think Xwing or Dann were busses, those two scum would be BBmolla + Micc.

Vedith - vedith's play from xwing's vote up to 220, ignoring the wall and then defending overkill are slightly scum indicative. 241 and 241 are a really weird interaction for scum!OK to have with Scum!Vedith. It's not impossible though. Also off the wagon, and it was pretty obv!scum. Lowest priority target

RC was an empty slot. I haven't analyzed his D2 yet.

[Draco Lucky]

-U2

[Vedith]

I said town reads.
Why are xwing Dann wormface and who ever else town?

[Vedith]

and it was pretty obv!scum.

Why was it pretty obvious?
At what point in day1 before the lynch do you state or imply it's obvious Scum?

[Draco Lucky]

I said town reads.
Why are xwing Dann wormface and who ever else town?

ah my b

Xwing - First of all slaxx town reads Xwing on play, and I lean town here, too. Also, we really don't see that first slot on the OK wagon being a bus.
Dann - Townier as the day went on. We read him as town, and we think that he is unlikely to make the vote on his partner at that time. Slight exception if his play d1 was to just follow xwing around, and he got on OK as a result of that play, but this is paranoid.

Dr. Worm feels town. His thought processes, where they are evident are townie. Getting reactions from Vedith and PP around the hammer felt town.

-U2

[Dr Worm]

if OVERKILL IS BADMAN VEDATH looks like BADMAN TOO

STILL TRUE!!

why did VADETH just WATCH DR WORM get POSSESSED AND HAMMER??

TOWN VADETH + 220 + 222 = ""DR WORM JUST WAIT A SECOND""

SCUM VADETH + 220 + 222 =

But worms don't kill!

How disappointing.

CUZ SCUM VADETH KNOWS THE FLIPPY ALLREADY SO CAN"T GET INVOLVED!!

[Draco Lucky]

and it was pretty obv!scum.

Why was it pretty obvious?
At what point in day1 before the lynch do you state or imply it's obvious Scum?

in my first read list I emphasize - repeatedly - how scummy I thought OK was. I was in no way ambiguous. Dann just quoted it for you this evening. Like, hello?

-U2

[PenguinPower]

PP - Which is actually why we think PP is only likely to be scum if Micc flips town. Outside of that, PP's iso is still not town-indicative, and his position on the wagon and vote hop prior to gettin on OK could def be a bus.

Do you know the definition of a bus? If I wanted to bus Overkill I would have pushed him in a way that actually made it look like I was not partners with him. If I was partners with Overkill I wouldn't have stayed on the wagon while Mr. Worm (you haven't earned the Dr. yet) was intimating hammering.

I was ambivalent (as a said, his ISO somewhat matched up a previous scum game, but wasn't enough) when Mr. Worm hammered. You can read those interaction again if you want.

Slaxx can't read me for shit, FYI.

[Dr Worm]

I"M SORRY I TRIED TO MAKE THAT UNDERGRANDABLE!!

[Dr Worm]

VOTE: VADETH

[PenguinPower]

Worm...I think you are wrong.

[Draco Lucky]

PP - Which is actually why we think PP is only likely to be scum if Micc flips town. Outside of that, PP's iso is still not town-indicative, and his position on the wagon and vote hop prior to gettin on OK could def be a bus.

Do you know the definition of a bus? If I wanted to bus Overkill I would have pushed him in a way that actually made it look like I was not partners with him. If I was partners with Overkill I wouldn't have stayed on the wagon while Mr. Worm (you haven't earned the Dr. yet) was intimating hammering.

I was ambivalent (as a said, his ISO somewhat matched up a previous scum game, but wasn't enough) when Mr. Worm hammered. You can read those interaction again if you want.

Slaxx can't read me for shit, FYI.

I'm using bus to mean "voting on a partner's lynch" or "actively working for a partner's lynch"

Feel free to correct me, but that's how I'm using the term up until now. I have no reason to take it as certainty that you would have pulled off of OK as scum. I do want to flip Micc first, though, which we think would pretty much clear you if red.

-U2

[Dr Worm]

PONGYPOWER PLZ explain for MY BRAIN

[Vedith]

Xwing - First of all slaxx town reads Xwing on play, and I lean town here, too. Also, we really don't see that first slot on the OK wagon being a bus.
Dann - Townier as the day went on. We read him as town, and we think that he is unlikely to make the vote on his partner at that time. Slight exception if his play d1 was to just follow xwing around, and he got on OK as a result of that play, but this is paranoid.

Dr. Worm feels town. His thought processes, where they are evident are townie. Getting reactions from Vedith and PP around the hammer felt town.

Lol wut?

So you both had the same reads?
Or did you disagree on any? Were the reasons the same?

[Draco Lucky]

Xwing - First of all slaxx town reads Xwing on play, and I lean town here, too. Also, we really don't see that first slot on the OK wagon being a bus.
Dann - Townier as the day went on. We read him as town, and we think that he is unlikely to make the vote on his partner at that time. Slight exception if his play d1 was to just follow xwing around, and he got on OK as a result of that play, but this is paranoid.

Dr. Worm feels town. His thought processes, where they are evident are townie. Getting reactions from Vedith and PP around the hammer felt town.

Lol wut?

So you both had the same reads?
Or did you disagree on any? Were the reasons the same?

We had a fairly long discussion, and I am expressing the consensus opinion that resulted.

[Draco Lucky]

-U2

[PenguinPower]

PONGYPOWER PLZ explain for MY BRAIN

Explain Vedith town?

I can't right now...sorry. Mostly gut atm. We'll see after we do our rainbow reads comparison tomorrow.

[Draco Lucky]

Until I hear otherwise from Slaxx, we are in lockstep read-wise.
-U2