Booneytoonz IX - Under The Sea -- Game Over!

[Nancy Drew 39]

Clem is dead....

Clemency was killed in the night![/color]

Spoiler: What was he?

Town Multitasking Two-Shot Doctor Two-Shot Roleblocker

Day 5 begins with a deadline of (expired on 2019-03-02 07:00:00).

Makes sense scum would kill the doc.

[Pink Ball]

How does the traitor thing works? How does the scumteam recruits a traitor?

[Wisdom]

I think FA's scum equity has gone through the roof and we haven't reevaluated her slot only because she was the first Miller claim, and now we know that the scumteam knew about the millers (like Maki suggested on D1).

yeah ive considered this but fa's play was pretty strong and im struggling to see as scum
i cant read molla either so he wont help

[Nero Cain]

besides, what else could they be informed about?

What if Elsa is telling the truth about a traitor and that's what mafia were informed about

[Pink Ball]

Nero answer my question please

[Wisdom]

i think informing scum there's a traitor does not require an informed role, it's part of the setup, no?

[Nero Cain]

I'm confirmed town. Fuck off.

[Nancy Drew 39]

The thing is we don’t really know what Vedith/Fire was really informed about. The whole miller thing was probably not it.

the miller thing was definitely it. that's the reason we lynched him, remember?

The whole miller thing was probably not it.

i agree.

Yes, that was the reason we lynched him, because he was obviously lying, Everyone aleady knew about the millers at the time Fire claimed. So, I’m calling bs on that.

IG was informed about something else.

[Nero Cain]

How does the traitor thing works? How does the scumteam recruits a traitor?

they shoot at him.

[Wisdom]

Yes, that was the reason we lynched him, because he was obviously lying, Everyone aleady knew about the millers at the time Fire claimed.

There was miscommunication then, because the reason I pushed him was not that he was lying, but that while I believed his claim, knowing about the millers made sense for scum and not town.

[Nero Cain]

though in a normal game traitor are unrecruitable.

[Pink Ball]

How does the traitor thing works? How does the scumteam recruits a traitor?

they shoot at him.

Thanks. There was a night that nobody died and Clem didn't claim who he protected (if he actually did) that could be the time they were recruited. Not killing a night just to create wifom about a fake traitor is suboptimal.

Wisdom could be the traitor given the info he has and he could be lying about being roleblocked

[Pink Ball]

though in a normal game traitor are unrecruitable.

Oh that would make the no kill night no sense from the scumteam then

[Wisdom]

The Normal queue guidelines before the May 7, 2018 overhaul are the template, with special additions to permit more creative setup design.

does this mean traitor is unrecruitable then?

[Nancy Drew 39]

creature wouldnt claim ascetic at this point because it would be a scumclaim

Creature is probably town. I think Clem roleblocked you because he probably thought you were scum role cop bussing. It’s obvious, you were one of his, if not the strongest scumread of his.

[Wisdom]

Wisdom could be the traitor given the info he has and he could be lying about being roleblocked

even if the traitor knew the roles of the mafia (which i don't think is common) this would mean I am scum with Kaito
is that what you're saying?

[Wisdom]

creature wouldnt claim ascetic at this point because it would be a scumclaim

Creature is probably town. I think Clem roleblocked you because he probably thought you were scum role cop bussing. It’s obvious, you were one of his, if not the strongest scumread of his.

how likely is it that clem still had a rb shot on n4 though? He was 2-shot

[Nero Cain]

Nancy, I don't think you are getting it. I agree that Clem prob blocked Wisdom but Wisdom is claiming he was blocked so that either means there is ANOTHER roleblocker or Wisdom is scum.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes, that was the reason we lynched him, because he was obviously lying, Everyone aleady knew about the millers at the time Fire claimed.

There was miscommunication then, because the reason I pushed him was not that he was lying, but that while I believed his claim, knowing about the millers made sense for scum and not town.

Yes but I think that isn’t what he was really informed about, because like everyone has been saying, it made no sense because millers claim right away and as I’ve already said, Fire knew this at the time of his claim, so Vedith/Fire is likely the scum PR and that makes me more convinced that I’m right about Kaito being Vedith’s buddy.

[Pink Ball]

Yeah I agree with Nancy there, but why having a willbooster if there's no scum roleblocker?

P-edit yeah that's what I was thinking Wisdom, but if you can't be recruited then it doesn't make sense. What we have to decide now is if there is indeed a scum roleblocker or not. If there is, Kaito isn't scum. If there isn't, Kaito would be my best bet as the remaining scum (assuming there's only one remaining)

[Wisdom]

I agree that Clem prob blocked Wisdom but Wisdom is claiming he was blocked so that either means there is ANOTHER roleblocker or Wisdom is scum.

not following this
if clem blocked me why does there need to be another?

[Nero Cain]

even if the traitor knew the roles of the mafia (which i don't think is common)

of course they know

[Nero Cain]

b/c Jingle only blocks ONE roleblock.

[Nancy Drew 39]

creature wouldnt claim ascetic at this point because it would be a scumclaim

Creature is probably town. I think Clem roleblocked you because he probably thought you were scum role cop bussing. It’s obvious, you were one of his, if not the strongest scumread of his.

how likely is it that clem still had a rb shot on n4 though? He was 2-shot

No one else but you has claimed roleblock so far, so very likely.

[Pink Ball]

Maybe Jingle targeted Clem thinking Clem still had a doctor shot and the scumteam would kill Wisdom and maybe roleblock Clem?