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Post Post #4400 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:56 am

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In post 4396, Vedith wrote:
In post 4393, Taly wrote:Would like to see some explanations here
I'm on phone right now.
If it helps I had RC and Ank both as town. So having 6 town reads ending day 1 is actually a lot for me regardless of posts made.
The amount if posts in a game means nothing without flips
In post 4398, Vedith wrote:
In post 4393, Taly wrote:I'm confident "their content doesn't feel forced" as a reason to townread someone should apply to more than just PB here.
Also it should, if I had the same for other players.
I'm only making the point that in 5000 posts, you should have a better idea on whose town - if you're reading based strongly off the principle of
"their reads are genuine and they don't look forced"
- as you state for
PB
here.
In post 4397, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4351, Taly wrote:
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Why is
Dann/Nancy
on the lower side of your reads?
Thoughts on
S_S+DT
?
Nancy is lower because I only really had her as weak town before and like I am gonna read that gargantuan ISO. Dann is lower because my townread on him is newer and hasn't been looked over for sanity yet.
SS-DT is my number 2 pair in my lynch order (TB-moment being number 1 and PB-Dr. Worm being number 3).
I recall being asked about my DT read so here goes. It's essentially just a collection of pings that form a read. I don't like how they interacted with me, I don't like their mindset for pairing, and I'm still on the fence about their "I am an asset to town" bluster.
I can see
S_S+DT
but there are 2 other pairs that have strongly caught my eye.

I don't know 100% about
Dann/Nancy
but I can't think of a reality where
Nancy
is scum, I can definitively towncase that for clarity.
Dann
is less confident in being town - but I townread him moreso than quite a few people in the game.

Can you list the pings you got from
DT
?
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Post Post #4401 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:00 am

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In post 4399, Taly wrote:Ehhhhh.... Did you townread RC/Ank at all? I want you to give an actual read and your assessment about the gamestate - rather than planning things and giving ideas solely based on other people's reads.
I townread Ank. I can't read RC.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4402 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:01 am

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In post 4400, Taly wrote:I'm only making the point that in 5000 posts, you should have a better idea on whose town - if you're reading based strongly off the principle of "their reads are genuine and they don't look forced" - as you state for PB here
Why should I?
It's 5000 posts of the same shit overall. Who's dancing with all, who's Scum/town and who has what coins (removing additional game mechanics).
I have no actual voting patterns, no deaths other than Allo at that point. So no, don't tell me I should have a better idea on who's town.
Theres more to PB but I'm phone posting so I'm not going into detail yet. The same I did with Dann and Nancy.
I don't overly go into town reads because I'm more concerned about who's Scum rather than who's town.
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Post Post #4403 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:05 am

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In post 4401, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4399, Taly wrote:Ehhhhh.... Did you townread RC/Ank at all? I want you to give an actual read and your assessment about the gamestate - rather than planning things and giving ideas solely based on other people's reads.
I townread Ank. I can't read RC.
Meh... I feel
RC
on this. I wouldn't say I'd make the same plans as you did, but you're getting suspicion casted your way for your thoughts pre-Second Dance.

I don't think you or
DT
are strong town at all atm - but your lack of defense and being honest about a lack of read comes across as towny.

I'm not vibing with the notion of lynching
S_S+DT
out of the gate here.
Vedith wrote:
In post 4400, Taly wrote:I'm only making the point that in 5000 posts, you should have a better idea on whose town - if you're reading based strongly off the principle of "their reads are genuine and they don't look forced" - as you state for PB here
Why should I?
It's 5000 posts of the same shit overall. Who's dancing with all, who's Scum/town and who has what coins (removing additional game mechanics).
I have no actual voting patterns, no deaths other than Allo at that point. So no, don't tell me I should have a better idea on who's town.
Theres more to PB but I'm phone posting so I'm not going into detail yet. The same I did with Dann and Nancy.
I don't overly go into town reads because I'm more concerned about who's Scum rather than who's town.
We can disagree here.

I just don't see you doing much to sort out your multiple
"null-reads"
or doing anything to push your
"scumreads"
and yet you've posted a good bit more since Second Dance started versus the majority of Pre-Dance.

I'll be waiting for your full reply to my thoughts over your readslist.
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Post Post #4404 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:06 am

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Btw I want everyone to throw out a vote in their next post, just so we have some momentum.
VOTE: TheBrie
I intended to do this as soon as I posted my reads fyi
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Post Post #4405 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:13 am

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Why are you ignoring RC's reads?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #4406 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:14 am

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are you talking to me or
Gamma
,
S_S
?

just want to clarify
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Post Post #4407 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:14 am

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In post 4403, Taly wrote:We can disagree here.

I just don't see you doing much to sort out your multiple "null-reads" or doing anything to push your "scumreads" and yet you've posted a good bit more since Second Dance started versus the majority of Pre-Dance.

I'll be waiting for your full reply to my thoughts over your readslist.
It's not disagreeing. You are telling me how I should play and I'm telling you no.

I'm not doing much to sort them? I've come back in and discussed as I said I would. The threat opened again today. Why are you in a rush for me to sort and push these reads in 12 hours?
Because I'm not bolding a name a name and saying that someone isn't playing how I like them to doesn't mean I'm not thinking over and sorting by myself. My main focus was to get a read on Fire via PT but that hasn't happened and I have a theory to why (resulting as Fire scum).
The read list I gave was a pre day 2.
And there was nothing else for me to go by with Pre dance. Why would I continue to clog the thread up with pointless shit like everyone else was?

I look forward to you waiting. I will do it but trust me when i say this, you low key trying to intimidate me into providing it in detail is not why I will ;)
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Post Post #4408 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:16 am

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I was talking to Gamma.

Also Nancy, I asked this a way back and I don't think you answered. You said Gamma was obvtown in Room Odds, so it sounds like you can read her pretty well... do you have a read on her with that level of confidence here?
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Post Post #4409 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:18 am

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lol I'm trying to intimidate you all of a sudden?
@Vedith


I don't vibe or understand the thought process behind your reads, and with the points I've made about your readslist in my post
(4390 or 4391?)
- it reads as very coincidental and easy-to-make given the gamestate.

Well, I'm here for when you want to actually put forth some thoughts.
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Post Post #4410 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:21 am

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In post 4405, Something_Smart wrote:Why are you ignoring RC's reads?
Because mine have felt on point so far.
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Post Post #4411 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:21 am

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Post Post #4412 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:23 am

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In post 4404, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw I want everyone to throw out a vote in their next post, just so we have some momentum.
VOTE: TheBrie
I intended to do this as soon as I posted my reads fyi
Walk me through your
TheBrie+Moment
read. I'm not feeling much about them yet.
Something_Smart wrote:I was talking to Gamma.

Also Nancy, I asked this a way back and I don't think you answered. You said Gamma was obvtown in Room Odds, so it sounds like you can read her pretty well... do you have a read on her with that level of confidence here?
Do you have scumreads at the moment? Or notable townreads?
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Post Post #4413 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:28 am

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In post 4409, Taly wrote:lol I'm trying to intimidate you all of a sudden? @Vedith

I don't vibe or understand the thought process behind your reads, and with the points I've made about your readslist in my post (4390 or 4391?) - it reads as very coincidental and easy-to-make given the gamestate.

Well, I'm here for when you want to actually put forth some thoughts. *thumbsup*
"Lol oh no I wasn't"
Cool.

No, your point was I should have more sorted players because there are 5000 post. Which is a moronic way to see it. 50 posts, 5000 posts I read people how I read them.
Did you have concern about my Dann or Nancy short and unexplained reads? No.
Yet that was never the point of concern here.
So it's not about my reads not having an understanding , its just down to me reading that slot as town.
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Post Post #4414 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:30 am

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In post 4403, Taly wrote:your multiple "null-reads"
Also can you explain this part a bit more?
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Post Post #4415 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:30 am

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In post 4389, Vedith wrote:Fair enough.
So you town read Moment?
In post 3319, Moment wrote:
In post 3310, Something_Smart wrote:I'm kinda thinking I want to pair with Thomas. Everyone else is too towny.
I would rather you paired with Urist. There's no need to be fatalistic with your lynch.
Yes, why would scum!moment who claims to be tr SS, say this?
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Post Post #4416 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:32 am

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I'm still waiting for you to respond to my inquiry.
*shrug*
I've given you my thoughts and why.

is the post link btw.
Vedith wrote:
In post 4403, Taly wrote:your multiple "null-reads"
Also can you explain this part a bit more?
What were all the yellow and orange color markings for your read then? Did I miss something?
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Post Post #4417 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:33 am

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In post 4412, Taly wrote:
In post 4404, Gamma Emerald wrote:Btw I want everyone to throw out a vote in their next post, just so we have some momentum.
VOTE: TheBrie
I intended to do this as soon as I posted my reads fyi
Walk me through your
TheBrie+Moment
read. I'm not feeling much about them yet.
The way TB paired was immensely sketchy. Moment I don't like how they blatantly dodged my question.
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Post Post #4418 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:36 am

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In post 4416, Taly wrote:What were all the yellow and orange color markings for your read then? Did I miss something?
Krazy is my only null outside of Work (who I'm not counting).
I was wondering if you meant that but since when do null get multiple colours on reads.

And what do you mean you're waiting for my response?
I answered and said I will but I'm on phone. Are you not reading what I'm putting?
Or was there a particular part you want me to answer before?
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Post Post #4419 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:42 am

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In post 4408, Something_Smart wrote:I was talking to Gamma.

Also Nancy, I asked this a way back and I don't think you answered. You said Gamma was obvtown in Room Odds, so it sounds like you can read her pretty well... do you have a read on her with that level of confidence here?
No, I actually wouldn’t say that but I can’t elaborate on why rn. In that game, she obvtown’d it. While I’m not seeing blatant Gamma scumtells like I’ve already mentioned, I wouldn’t say I obvtown read here in this game. I find some of her reads perplexing and that concerns me a bit.
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Post Post #4420 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:51 am

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Nancy who should I vote?
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Post Post #4421 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:00 am

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In post 4407, Vedith wrote:My main focus was to get a read on Fire via PT but that hasn't happened and I have a theory to why (resulting as Fire scum)
I thought it was to convince me ur town. since I was putting the shift onto u.

ur line of thinking makes 0 sense.

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Post Post #4422 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:01 am

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I WILL BE DAMNED IF VEDITH THINKS HE CAN TELL ME HE SCUM READS ME.

not on my watch mr. u do what I say. I AM THE MANIAC LOVER U CHOSE!
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Post Post #4423 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:02 am

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I think this is Scum Fire.
I walk in 3 hours in that case. I'm controlling how it goes between us and I already said to you that the PT was for you to impress me as much as it is for me to impress you.
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Post Post #4424 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:03 am

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lol double dog dare u to leave now.
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