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Post Post #3350 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:32 am

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I believe the following:

Clemency roleblocked Wisdom
Informed scum knew that there were a lot of millers in the game, possibly even how many millers there were

And theorize on the following:
Clemency dying now means scum didn't want him to out a roleblock, lending credence to the 1 killing role left theory
If there is more than 1 scum, one is likely a traitor with the other being a power role
If there's only 1 scum left it has to be a power role
Rolecop is in the setup to check Millers, and is about as powerful as a cop in this setup

Actually there is a lot of investigative power with creature being a backup
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Post Post #3351 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:33 am

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I'll go off that assumption. If Clem roleblocked Wisdom you can blame all the loss on him.
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Post Post #3352 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 3347, Creature wrote:
In post 3335, Kaito Momota wrote:His targeting was cringe worthy
Probably not enough to roleblock a claimed rolecop that could confirm millers.
I do think he's that bad
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Post Post #3353 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:35 am

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There's no mechanical reason Clemency doesn't out who his roleblock target would be in case Vedith flipped scum. None. Clemency hammered Vedith. He's just an idiot.
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Post Post #3354 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:36 am

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So FMPOV either Clem basically gamethrew or there's a scum roleblocker. (I guess technically Wis could be faking being rb-d but why?)
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Post Post #3355 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:36 am

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If Maki and Clemency quit trying to be heroes and worked with the town we would have won this game, and we'd probably have it wrapped up now
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Post Post #3356 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:37 am

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also kaito

you are of the opinion clem blocked me

but you are also of the opinion there is a town willbooster

why the fuck is there a town willbooster without a scum rb?
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Post Post #3357 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:37 am

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In post 3344, Wisdom wrote:in order for clem to block me he would have to go through both n2 and n3 without using his block

we know he used both a block and a doc on n1 and that he used a doc on n3

so he would have to do absolutely nothing on n2

who the fuck does that when you can wake up dead having wasted the chance to use your powers
Still dislike Jingle's choice to target Clem who likely wasn't gonna be roleblocked anyway.
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Post Post #3358 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 3349, Wisdom wrote:yeah sorry for making sense creature i wont do it again

i will just blindly sheep whoever nancy meta reads instead
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Post Post #3359 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 3344, Wisdom wrote:in order for clem to block me he would have to go through both n2 and n3 without using his block

we know he used both a block and a doc on n1 and that he used a doc on n3

so he would have to do absolutely nothing on n2

who the fuck does that when you can wake up dead having wasted the chance to use your powers
This is Clem, ISO him in theRoomOdds and you’ll see how he was so easy mislynchbait.
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Post Post #3360 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 3356, Wisdom wrote:also kaito

you are of the opinion clem blocked me

but you are also of the opinion there is a town willbooster

why the fuck is there a town willbooster without a scum rb?
It could be negative utility

It could be in the game to feed off false assumptions

Kind of how there's a rolecop, a bunch of millers, and an informed mafia
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Post Post #3361 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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even more reason to use your shots if you are mislynchbait
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Post Post #3362 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:38 am

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Clemency never claimed a second roleblock is the thing
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Post Post #3363 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 3350, Kaito Momota wrote:Clemency dying now means scum didn't want him to out a roleblock, lending credence to the 1 killing role left theory
Yeah, that would assume scum had a roleblocker to deal with Wisdom also getting a clear/possibly guilty.
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Post Post #3364 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:39 am

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Like I wouldn't be surprised if he thought roleblocking me again n2 was the play but he never claimed anything
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Post Post #3365 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 3355, Kaito Momota wrote:If Maki and Clemency quit trying to be heroes and worked with the town we would have won this game, and we'd probably have it wrapped up now
Well, I didn't want to lynch Maki before she outed her target.
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Post Post #3366 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:39 am

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yeah whatever

i am not voting outside jingle/creature

whoever doesnt see there has to be scum in there is delusional
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Post Post #3367 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

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if scum DON'T have a roleblocker this is a weird setup actually.

2 hard investigative roles and a backup investigative

OK, I see what wisdom is talking about
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Post Post #3368 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

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plus a 2 shot doctor
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Post Post #3369 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:40 am

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The investigatives only work around millers though - both of them
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Post Post #3370 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:41 am

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I can see Jingle being scum and having a pretty shitty excuse to not willboost Wisdom, but I'll still assume the last scum is roleblocker or some kind.
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Post Post #3371 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:43 am

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If the last scum is roleblocker then it's Jingle
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Post Post #3372 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:43 am

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In post 3358, Creature wrote:
In post 3349, Wisdom wrote:yeah sorry for making sense creature i wont do it again

i will just blindly sheep whoever nancy meta reads instead
Great idea
@Wisdom, scum may well have a PR but not necessarily a rb. Yes, Clem really is this bad. Why did he doc Creature over Chara?
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Post Post #3373 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:44 am

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What about "There's one protective claim, I should willboost that" is shitty?

Like, all of the arguments about me willboosting Wisdom presume I've read the thread thoroughly when marathon weekend started right after I replaced in.
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Post Post #3374 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:44 am

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In post 3372, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why did he doc Creature over Chara?
That's not why he's bad
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