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Post Post #3425 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:52 am

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Universal Backups are not necessarily self-aware; they may learn they are a Universal Backup when they inherit an ability.

Universal Backups are generally Town-aligned, as in Mafia hands they make games become very swingy depending on what role they pick up.

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The term "power role" is somewhat ambiguous - generally anything that is not truly Vanilla is considered a "power role", including roles like Miller. It is ultimately up to the moderator's discretion which abilities are inheritable, though it should be planned in advance.

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Universal Backup (if self-aware) is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Universal Backup can be of any alignment, but it should only activate upon the first death of a power role of their own alignment. A power role in this case is any role that is not Vanilla (so not a Vanilla Townie or a Mafia Goon). Universal Backups inherit any and all modifiers, including the remaining shots of an X-Shot role.
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Post Post #3426 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:53 am

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Traitor thing makes sense

15p
Two scum are goon/informed
Town lots of power

Only way that balances is with a traitor
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Post Post #3427 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:54 am

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That’s a universal backup it’s completely different
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Post Post #3428 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:56 am

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In post 3427, BBmolla wrote:That’s a universal backup it’s completely different
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Post Post #3429 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:56 am

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If a Mafia Gamefucker (a theoretical role that’s balanced for mafia but gamebreakingly good for town) is lynched d1, the game is fucked. That is why the alignments are done that way for universal backup, but that isn’t relevant when the role backup is specified.
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Post Post #3430 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:58 am

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Creature is only scum with a traitor imo.

15p with 4 scum is... meh idk it seems scumsided even if you stack town

I could be wrong who knows
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Post Post #3431 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:58 am

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In post 3070, Creature wrote:
In post 3068, Wisdom wrote:Creature claim
Backup rolecop

hence why I didn't doubt your claim at any moment specially when you got a weird PoE.
Why does scum!Creature claim this?
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Post Post #3432 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 3431, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3070, Creature wrote:
In post 3068, Wisdom wrote:Creature claim
Backup rolecop

hence why I didn't doubt your claim at any moment specially when you got a weird PoE.
Why does scum!Creature claim this?
because its his actual role
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Post Post #3433 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:01 pm

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but if creat is scum backup rolecop he can't be responsible for Wis rb
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Post Post #3434 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:01 pm

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In post 3426, BBmolla wrote:Traitor thing makes sense

15p
Two scum are goon/informed
Town lots of power

Only way that balances is with a traitor
what about jingle enchantress + another goon
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Post Post #3435 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:02 pm

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Deputy
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Deputy
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Retired Cop
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Role type:
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Notes: linked to Cop
A Deputy is a flavor name for a Backup Cop. Once a Cop has died, the Deputy will become an ordinary Cop (the flavor logic being that the Deputy steps up to replace the deceased Cop). The Deputy may or may not be self-aware (if not, they will receive a Vanilla Townie Role PM). Occasionally a self-aware Deputy is called a Retired Cop.

This role does not necessarily make any guarantee about the existence of a Cop in the setup to begin with. If there is no Cop, this role is effectively a Named Townie. On the other hand, if there are multiple Cops in the setup, the Deputy will traditionally inherit the sanity of the first deceased Cop.

This role is virtually always pro-Town.


This version of Deputy, and only this version of Deputy, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

Variations
An older variant is that the Deputy can choose to 'retrieve' the results of a dead Cop's investigations instead of becoming a full Cop. If there is more than one Cop, the deputy usually can only get the results of one of the Cop's investigations, so they must choose wisely when and on whom to use their ability.

Use and Power
A Deputy is used to ensure that the Cop role stays in the game even if the first person holding the role dies. To that end, it is vaguely similar in power to giving a Cop one shot of death immunity. This is fairly good for Town; so Deputy is not often seen except in games with variable sanity, Cop-themed games, or in games with no Cop at all.

If there is no Cop in the game, the Deputy is essentially a Named Townie
. Use of a Deputy with no Cop in the game is often considered to be bastard modding.
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Post Post #3436 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:03 pm

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Cop is also virtually always town, nancy.

Just trust that the three people telling you scum backups for town roles are possible aren't all scum.
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Post Post #3437 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:04 pm

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I never claim willbooster as enchantress, Wis.
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Post Post #3438 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:09 pm

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BoP here, but I'm not bad enough as scum to claim the role that can mess with my own and then use my own role. If I was enchantress I would have claimed VT.
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Post Post #3439 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:12 pm

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In post 3433, Jingle wrote:but if creat is scum backup rolecop he can't be responsible for Wis rb
Exactly, as long as Wisdom is alive, Creature is just a named townie.
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Post Post #3440 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:15 pm

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or scum.
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Post Post #3441 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:15 pm

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nancy creature and jingle cant be both town in this setup. You need to understand this.
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Post Post #3442 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:16 pm

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but if he's trueclaiming scum there's a buddy
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Post Post #3443 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:16 pm

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In post 3441, Wisdom wrote:nancy creature and jingle cant be both town in this setup. You need to understand this.
I think we are :neutral:
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Post Post #3444 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:17 pm

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Like, assuming he's actually a backup rolecop he's conftown to me, actually.
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Post Post #3445 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:18 pm

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In post 3441, Wisdom wrote:nancy creature and jingle cant be both town in this setup. You need to understand this.
How certain are you of molla/FA town?

Because I don’t believe Creature can be scum here. This is just totally out of his scumrange.
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Post Post #3446 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:20 pm

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In post 3445, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3441, Wisdom wrote:nancy creature and jingle cant be both town in this setup. You need to understand this.
How certain are you of molla/FA town?

Because I don’t believe Creature can be scum here. This is just totally out of his scumrange.
i dont care about what you think people's scumrange are

look at the setup

we dont have all these town roles
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Post Post #3447 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:21 pm

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In post 3443, Jingle wrote:
In post 3441, Wisdom wrote:nancy creature and jingle cant be both town in this setup. You need to understand this.
I think we are :neutral:
In post 3444, Jingle wrote:Like, assuming he's actually a backup rolecop he's conftown to me, actually.
@Wisdom, why does scum!Jingle defend Creature here?

Like the whole informed scum thing, points to a possible fakeclaiming miller. I don’t think you can rule out molla/FA as scum here.
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Post Post #3448 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:22 pm

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sigh i wanna cry we are going to repeat the same things forever
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Post Post #3449 (ISO) » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:22 pm

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If 4 scum, Creat and I both have to be town.
If 3 scum, and Creat backup RC, Creat didn't rb wisdom.


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