Booneytoonz IX - Under The Sea -- Game Over!

[Nancy Drew 39]

nancy creature and jingle cant be both town in this setup. You need to understand this.

How certain are you of molla/FA town?

Because I don’t believe Creature can be scum here. This is just totally out of his scumrange.

i dont care about what you think people's scumrange are

look at the setup

we dont have all these town roles

Creature is town. Scum!Creature is frozen. But go ahead and continue to insult my accurate metaread on him.

[Wisdom]

If 4 scum, Creat and I both have to be town.

because..?

[Jingle]

How is the setup balanced without both of us town?

[Wisdom]

rolecop + backup rolecop + maki + clem against 3 goons + enchantress

balanced enough

[Nancy Drew 39]

sigh i wanna cry we are going to repeat the same things forever

Why are you so certain molla/FA is town? How many times, do I have to repeat this question?

[Wisdom]

i nowhere said molla is town nancy. im saying there is no way jingle and creature are both town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

rolecop + backup rolecop + maki + clem against 3 goons + enchantress

balanced enough

Vedith/Fire wasn’t a goon. he was informed.

[Wisdom]

informed is not a pr. it's a modifier. they need prs.

[Jingle]

rolecop + backup rolecop + maki + clem against 3 goons + enchantress

balanced enough

Terrible argument. First I know I'm not scum, so:

Rolecop
Willbooster
Maki
Clem
7 VT/Miller

Goon
Goon
Roleblocker
Backup Rolecop

Second, how is that balanced?

[Wisdom]

dont see whats the issue with yours either; backup rolecop is another goon until i die, and willbooster actually has a use

[BBmolla]

Just throwing this out there, it’s unlikely scum fakeclaims with a rolecop around, especially if they have the backup rolecop

Any theory that involves not lying about roles is more likely to me

I can also understand why people are poeing me but I’m not scum

[Wisdom]

scum jingle can block me though so fakeclaiming isnt an issue

[Kaito Momota]

it’s unlikely scum fakeclaims with a rolecop around

Which in my mind makes it unlikely for the backup rolecop to be scum, since it seems scum were kind of encouraged to at least consider having somebody claim miller at the start with their informed role

Of course, if scum they could just have a different role I guess

[Wisdom]

since it seems scum were kind of encouraged to at least consider having somebody claim miller at the start with their informed role

why does that make the backup rolecop unlikely

[Wisdom]

scum backup rolecop*

[Kaito Momota]

Because of this:

it’s unlikely scum fakeclaims with a rolecop around, especially if they have the backup rolecop

[Kaito Momota]

Was Nero Cain cleared by something?

[Creature]

Option 2: creature is town, setup is designed around millers and rolecops, last mafia is goon (fake inno for RC) and Traitor is a Jailkeeper

Either way we seek for the roleblocker-type.

[Kaito Momota]

Oh right, he got checked as miller didn't he

Wisdom, Pink Ball, Nancy Drew 39, Nero Cain for my town list

Creature had good placement on the wagon yesterday, the chances that he's bussing, going against meta, and fake claiming a town pr all while looking like town seems pretty low to me - I think they're town

That leaves BBmolla and Jingle

[Wisdom]

Was Nero Cain cleared by something?

by me

[Creature]

That’s a universal backup it’s completely different

Not really. You don't see town inheriting strongman or scum inheriting mason.

[Kaito Momota]

The biggest issue with balance I have is the 2.5 investigatives with a 2-shot doctor as well

That might necessitate 4 scum, 1 being a traitor, with this being a 15 player setup. Does that sound balanced?

[Creature]

Creature claim

Backup rolecop

hence why I didn't doubt your claim at any moment specially when you got a weird PoE.

Why does scum!Creature claim this?

because its his actual role

We're looking for a roleblocker-type role.

[Wisdom]

thats his point, creature. the universal backup DOES backup same alignment

[Kaito Momota]

That’s a universal backup it’s completely different

Not really. You don't see town inheriting strongman or scum inheriting mason.

What are you arguing here? That's completely different too