Booneytoonz IX - Under The Sea -- Game Over!

[Nancy Drew 39]

Spoiler:

I can't accept being so low in your read list

ask me questions - fix your read.

Bad post

That's how I always post and who I am. You calling is bad post is a bad post coming from "you".

I can most likely see scum!you begging to be townread like this.

And you don't know about my mental state and how town me would beg to interact and fix others reads on me?

seriously that's like abc of my personality and I can't believe you're saying stuff like this about me since me and you played a lot of games together even after my ms ban.

As far as I remember I'm not confident on you being town yet and your begging to be townread is something I could imagine scum!you doing (I knew you were good as scum before your ban).

well beside someone like creature since they also played off-site with me.

And something seems missing from you here compared to the mashes we played in MU.

we played after my ban together yet you mention "before my ban" and you don't say anything about my meta - you're just applying a generally standard meta on my playstyle here cause that fits your shading narrative better.

VOTE: Creature

No, I would call that playing with my cards close to my chest.

If you happen to show you're town like I'm used to see in MU games, then I'll stop pushing you. Still, you haven't accomplished that.

I dunno whether you would beg to be townread as town too or not, but I find it worth pushing because it's generally scummy.

what about me begging for townread as town is new for you?

You usually solve more than beg for townreads. The fact it feels like you're more begging to be townread this game seems bad.

You're previous posts were like how you can see scum me begging for being townread now that I revealed your shading you're changing that to a full scumread ay?

Yes, I find it scummy.

yeah i think her reaction to/switch on creature was genuine just affected by emotions/confbias in the moment

It still feels like the AtE I used to see FA using to win her scumgames.

It’s worth noting, that the main reason that DVa was so convinced that Short was scum in Witches’ Ball was that he aggressively begged her for a townread in their PT.

Like I said, town!FA takes your head off for scumreading her. I feel really good now, that we’re flipping scum. If the game doesn’t end, powerlynch Kaito.

[Jingle]

Living players:

Nero- Conftown
Wis
Nanc
Me
Creat
BB
Kaito
PB

Kaito makes sense as scum with BB/PB/Creat afaict.

Who is BB reasonably partnered with?

[Wisdom]

kaito

[Creature]

Argument for creature kaito not being w/w. Will explain when not mobile.

FA's post supposes the millers are unconfirmable. Knowledge of a rolecop is directly counter to that, so the scumteam probably had no indication of a rolecop if FA scum.

What?

[Nancy Drew 39]

kaito

+1

[Jingle]

FA's post looks like she considers all miller claims lynchbait. Not necassarily AI. But if she has a buddy who is a backup RC, she probably thinks there's an RC in the setup. Which means that she wouldn't consider millers lynchbait but as potentially confirmable townies.

[Creature]

Oh, still doesn't explain the "all millers" part.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Argument for creature kaito not being w/w. Will explain when not mobile.

FA's post supposes the millers are unconfirmable. Knowledge of a rolecop is directly counter to that, so the scumteam probably had no indication of a rolecop if FA scum.

What?

+1

@Jingle

Why would there be an informed scum who gets info about millers being in the setup and then think, no way does it make sense, to have a town rolecop in this game? Like no.

[Jingle]

No, just saying that the two of you aren't partners.

[Wisdom]

Claiming miller right off of page 1? Fun! I'm only going to take Frozen's Miller claim here seriously so Alchemist gets a vote for lying in page 1.

VOTE: Alchemist

Call me when scum don't try and discredit townies page 1. I want a harder game next time.

all millers should claim asap - its like having a red cop result - it will prevent redundant checks and help the game

all millers must die before lylo. I don't care that includes me

as someone who always try to endgame and very rarely gets lynched and usually can carry scumteams to victory - I would never ever fake claim miller

about alchemist I don't know why would a scum them fake claim miller and I'm not sure if they are bold enough scum player to do that.

I think it's actually not a scum slip. FA is answering to this Elsa post where he says he believes one claim but not the other. So FA says "all millers must claim" as in "one claim is not scummier than the other"

[Jingle]

Why would there be an informed scum who gets info about millers being in the setup and then think, no way does it make sense, to have a town rolecop in this game? Like no.

Backwards. Role cop makes sense with many millers, many millers doesn't necessarily mean there's going to be a rolecop. If I open an IG PM that says there's a buncha millers, I don't presume that there's going to be a rolecop. If I open a role pm that says backup rolecop, I assume there's going to be a rolecop. FA's post doesn't look like she thought there was a rolecop.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Living players:

Nero- Conftown
Wis
Nanc
Me
Creat
BB
Kaito
PB

Kaito makes sense as scum with BB/PB/Creat afaict.

Who is BB reasonably partnered with?

Why are you only 3rd on your own list?

PB isn’t scum. I’ve already shown his anti-partnery reactions to Fire and if it somehow becomes relevant, you.
Creature is locktown.

[Jingle]

Why are you only 3rd on your own list?

Cause I typed it out instead of copying it from somewhere and that's when I thought to include me? Nero was actually just before PB originally, but I moved him to the top because he's actually conftown.

It's not in any order particularly.

[Nancy Drew 39]

No, just saying that the two of you aren't partners.

Have you ever played with scum!Creature? I’m not wrong here.

I’m getting really tired of repeating this.

[Jingle]

Creature is locktown. Have you ever played with scum!Creature before? This isn’t it.

Actually I don’t think I have. I’ve played with town him a few times, but the only scumgame I’m aware of is one I’ve been linked to to demonstrate that he broke his “doesn’t post as scum” meta. And I barely skimmed that because I was scum when they linked me it.

You reasking questions I've already answered isn't really my fault, Nancy.

And you should know by now that I'm never going to take subjective reads for granted. I also think Creature is town. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop considering the possibility he's scum.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Claiming miller right off of page 1? Fun! I'm only going to take Frozen's Miller claim here seriously so Alchemist gets a vote for lying in page 1.

VOTE: Alchemist

Call me when scum don't try and discredit townies page 1. I want a harder game next time.

all millers should claim asap - its like having a red cop result - it will prevent redundant checks and help the game

all millers must die before lylo. I don't care that includes me

as someone who always try to endgame and very rarely gets lynched and usually can carry scumteams to victory - I would never ever fake claim miller

about alchemist I don't know why would a scum them fake claim miller and I'm not sure if they are bold enough scum player to do that.

I think it's actually not a scum slip. FA is answering to this Elsa post where he says he believes one claim but not the other. So FA says "all millers must claim" as in "one claim is not scummier than the other"

Well, scum is in Kaito/molla/Jingle if relevant, because I’m tr everyone else.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Creature is locktown. Have you ever played with scum!Creature before? This isn’t it.

Actually I don’t think I have. I’ve played with town him a few times, but the only scumgame I’m aware of is one I’ve been linked to to demonstrate that he broke his “doesn’t post as scum” meta. And I barely skimmed that because I was scum when they linked me it.

You reasking questions I've already answered isn't really my fault, Nancy.

And you should know by now that I'm never going to take subjective reads for granted. I also think Creature is town. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop considering the possibility he's scum.

Fine but this is one subjective read that is 99.9999 % accurate.

[Jingle]

No, just saying that the two of you aren't partners.

Have you ever played with scum!Creature? I’m not wrong here.

I’m getting really tired of repeating this.

I just checked. My completed games with Creature are Police Academy (me scum, creature in giant hydra) and RC's UPick (both town).

[Jingle]

jingle & my reservations on you being town.

I was actually pretty sure Shoshin was town from the moment she asked to be neighborized.

The Lynch her in 7p LYLO thing was exactly the same as the mastina thing. There is never a point when I am happy enough with my subjective reads to take them completely off the table forever (I don't trust me that much), and Shoshin was the only lynch in 7p LYLO that 100% guaranteed we'd make it to 5p LYLO.

And, tbc, I did misread the shit out of mastina this game, but I planned for that, too. And if I played in mafia games more often I'd be down to play with you again Nico. I just... don't play as much mafia as I used to.

Hopefully I can stop repeating this to you now.

[Nancy Drew 39]

No, just saying that the two of you aren't partners.

Have you ever played with scum!Creature? I’m not wrong here.

I’m getting really tired of repeating this.

I just checked. My completed games with Creature are Police Academy (me scum, creature in giant hydra) and RC's UPick (both town).

Oh okay then, I guess that explains it.

[Creature]

Claiming miller right off of page 1? Fun! I'm only going to take Frozen's Miller claim here seriously so Alchemist gets a vote for lying in page 1.

VOTE: Alchemist

Call me when scum don't try and discredit townies page 1. I want a harder game next time.

all millers should claim asap - its like having a red cop result - it will prevent redundant checks and help the game

all millers must die before lylo. I don't care that includes me

as someone who always try to endgame and very rarely gets lynched and usually can carry scumteams to victory - I would never ever fake claim miller

about alchemist I don't know why would a scum them fake claim miller and I'm not sure if they are bold enough scum player to do that.

I think it's actually not a scum slip. FA is answering to this Elsa post where he says he believes one claim but not the other. So FA says "all millers must claim" as in "one claim is not scummier than the other"

or actually FA said that as if it applied for every game. So yeah, not a real scumslip.

[Wisdom]

also another jingle town point that i didnt want to mention is that willbooster was recently made by gamma so it makes total sense hed test it out here

[Nancy Drew 39]

also another jingle town point that i didnt want to mention is that willbooster was recently made by gamma so it makes total sense hed test it out here

Yeah, it did sound unfamiliar and this really does sound like town!sheep. Scum!sheep was so blatantly scummy in MBoS, I actually joked with Ari in our hydra PT, that we needed a scum!sheep translator to understand wtf he was saying at certain points.

Yeah, my initial reads/gutreads > to re-evaluated reads in the vast majority of cases.

And sheep can be toneread. This is typical town!sheep tone here: being engaging, natural - like his defence of Creature. Scum!sheep almost has a closed off, avoidant, even a bit hostile edge to him. Town!sheep=nice engaging sheep, scum!sheep=cold, closed off, even a bit nasty. I have never seen town!sheep say anything on the mean side but he clearly has no problem doing that as scum, if MBoS is any indication.

[Pink Ball]

Creature asked everyone why they were town on D1 and he began saying that he was town for poking FA. FA and Creature are never scum together now that I remember that back and forth. And FA's reaction to Creature pushing her was scummy

[Nero Cain]

Hey Wisdon-you were so staunchly "Katio isn't scum" yesterday but today I'm not really getting that vibe, why is that?