Does your ability decrease as we get less BOONus rooms?
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Just like he told you there were multiple BOONus rooms?In post 8721, DrewVa wrote:It does not, and we can and have activated ourselves. Boon has confirmed to us that it is not a visiting role and that loyal/disloyal does not affect it.
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Yeah but on D2 you said Boon told you there were other rooms. Without mention of the guidelines.In post 8725, DrewVa wrote:
We were in a Boonus room and had activated people to be in boonus rooms that were not in our boonus room, vis-a-vis there were multiple Boonus Rooms. Additionally:In post 8724, BrightEyedFish wrote:Just like he told you there were multiple BOONus rooms?
You yourself should have known that there were multiple Boonus rooms, given the start of game ruleset and basic math, since you were in a boonus room with us n1, and it did not have 9 players in it.In post 2, Boonskiies wrote:
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Because I sent it to profii. He confirmed he received it on D2. My 1 shot was up. I can't say why it ended up with TLK on D3.In post 8730, Xtoxm wrote:bef why didnt you come forward with this earlier
did you realise you were in conflict with profii
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Part of the reason I pushed TLK was because of the fruit. I knew profii wasn't lying that he had it and I believed he didn't intend for it to go to TLK for whatever reason.In post 8761, DrewVa wrote:
It’s suspicious af that he never claimed giving sf to Profil and pushed TLK mislynch, when he he pused town!Ram mislynch N2. He was also dead set on Elsa being lynched over scum!Smart.In post 8735, Xtoxm wrote:its entirely possible that im giving bef more credit than he deserves
if drewva wants bef first i'll sheep it
we have a 1v1 i want to resolve it
so i picked the one that made more sense to me
i havent actually read far back enough to see his claim since you guys spammed the thread again, i just saw enough to gather the situation
Am I missing anything, @BEF?
That's about right for my reads.
I wasn't a fan of the EFN wagon, I was wrong.
I pushed Ram and TLK, I was wrong.
I SR SS, but I wanted EJ first.. I still could be right. who knows at this point.
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Ok. well, it looks liekt he votes are coming towards me.
I haven't lied about my role or my actions. I have no more info to give to prove my alignment, the rest is up to everyone to decide if what's out there is valid or not.
Please follow CD's advice before they were killed. And read the dead people ISOs
My last reads are thinking there is scum here in no particular order:
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I didn't think I would die because scum would be after me because of my role. I figured I would be lynchbait or go all crazy ith a fake claim or whatever. But I kept it relatively together this game I think, maybe I had some wild theories but I always do.In post 8923, DrewVa wrote:1: You do believe there is a mechanical 1v1? There is no way, in your understanding, that this is somehow T/T?
2: I know you've talked about this some, that you thought you would die and you wanted to use your action, but if your intention was to take the loyal modifier in the boonus round, and you only had one charge, why would you vend your first charge on n1 when you could have potentially gotten a second charge and a second loyal visiting action off?
3: This might be an odd question, but why is Creature not in your final FoSes there? Wasn't he the other main option in your dayrep theory that you've been pushing? Do you townread his slot?
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Another reason I sent it so early, was because shortly before this game started I came under fire (granted after a neo fake claim) that I didn't use my 1-shot before N2... I think I had that in my head and thought that I had beter use it so I don't get that line of questioning again down the line if needed. Learning by doing. Also, I felt getting a 2nd charge would be great. Profii annoucing he had the fruit regardless of his alignment would put any future scum under pressure if they did receive the fruit to announce it because it was public knowledge that the fruit exists so I didn't see any unsolvable problems is subsequent fruit happened to land in scum hands.
If profii hadn't quickly announced that he received the fruit I would have most likely claimed on D2 and we would have probably already sorted that mess but I trusted profii for annoucing it so quick.
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Here is a link to the game where I fake claimed Neop if anyone is interested:
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I was in favor of an N&M lynch earlier in the day but after their exchange with EJ and sine I've been townleaning N&M.In post 8926, DrewVa wrote:Well, you don't sound terribly scum in tone, but I also don't know what else to do here. I don't like favoring mechanics over reads. I have no idea how many scum are in your final pool there but Penguin is never scum here and frankly while we've been at odds I don't really know why you think our slot is scum. So I'm not exactly blown away by your final reads, although who knows. I don't even really want to lynch you, I haven't particularly wanted to lynch you since you came at us day 2, and if there is some sort of fuckup here along the line somewhere, given the number of strange coincidences involved in this crossclaim, I don't want there to be two back to back mislynches for sure, and I'm not thrilled with profii not really getting in here either. Even despite the mechanics here Nancy would prefer to lynch N&M but it doesn't sound like you would even want that from your final reads. But frankly I am just really fucking sick of dealing with this sticky fruit nonsense. I don't know if I've somehow overprioritized this cross-claim just because it involved TLK's death and everything there or what. Maybe TLK baited the crossclaim because he just wanted his SuperSaint ability to go off. In which case, holy shit, what a gamethrow. But I don't see how we play around potential gamethrows or mod errors and I don't know how we ignore mechanical cross-claims in a setup that specifically states setup potential.
Still want to hear from profii a bit more before day end. If anyone thinks that *somehow* this is actually T/T and we should just lynch N&M and do some mechanical checks on BEF and profii let me know.
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But as I've already mentioned, my reads haven't been stellar- BrightEyedFish
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I think there is scum in here, not for sure on how to order them though.In post 8928, RCEnigma wrote:I want to get a shotgunned readslist from Bef and Profii before I vote. If it's in the last couple pages please repost it because I'm not sifting through you guys toxic implosions. Sorry not sorry to all involved.
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I will flip town and that won't change the fact that I sent profii the fruit. I don't see how my town flip will implicate profii even if I think he is scum since I had no loyal modifier or anything.In post 8901, Nev and Max wrote:We will vote for BEF with the understanding that if he flips town we, without question, lynch profii the next day.
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But it seems you didn't. I don't believe for a second that Boon deleted it from your confessional or hacked in and deleted your PM.In post 8931, Creature wrote:I could swear I got the loud modifier- BrightEyedFish
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How am I the stronger role? If I were scum and had more than 1 shot and with just a few scum left they would already have enough fruit to pass around to each other to use it's ability...In post 8952, Jingle wrote:Mechanical 1v1 between BEF and profii. One of them is confirmed to be lying.
BEF is the stronger role for scum, so lynch there first.
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I don't think people will change their minds so it seems I'm a goner.
I wish I had more dying words that could help out. I'll just say it again so you know.
I am a Town 1-shot Sticky Fruit Vendor.
I used that 1 shot on profii N1.
I never received any gifts or anything.
I think there is scum in here:
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Sorry. I just glanced at the OP. Forgot you just replaced your own hydra.In post 8967, PenguinPower wrote:I didn't replace in.- BrightEyedFish
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I think that question puts Boon in a bad spot. I think a better question is something likeIn post 8970, DrewVa wrote:@Boon, this is critically important, did Creature receive a LOUD from Profil n2, or didn’t he?
The ENTIRE game is resting on your answer Thanks.
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How would you ask or would you not ask?In post 8973, Elsa Jay wrote:Also asking a Mod to admit to fucking up is... More black then grey.- BrightEyedFish
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Wouldn't a profii flip solve this problem as well as solving the issue people are having with my slot?In post 8975, DrewVa wrote:
No, Profil has claimed to give Creature a LOUD. Creature remembers receiving it but now can’t find it.In post 8971, Elsa Jay wrote:I don't think Boon can out that Creature gave something to someone publicly, Nancy.
This is troubling because whether or not Creature received the LOUD or not, could determine which of BEF/Profil are likely to be telling the truth.
If Creature never got the LOUD, then it be because scum!Smart jailkept Profil and that BEF gave TLK the stickyfruit but if Creature did in fact receive Profil’s LOUD, then it meant that Profil couldn’t have been jailkept and possibly lied about giving stickyfruit to to TLK instead of Penguin.
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Can profii only send loyals to the same alignment as himself?In post 8982, DrewVa wrote:
How do we know Profil isn’t?In post 8981, BrightEyedFish wrote:How will my mislynch solve anything?
I don’t know if it is one but finding out whether Profil did in fact send Creature a LOUD n2, will definitely help, determine that.
But if Profil is scum, how does he send Penguin a LOYAL, so your lynch still makes way more sense than Profil’s.- BrightEyedFish
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Ok. How about this one.In post 8984, DrewVa wrote:
Which he used on us with his neghbourize.In post 8982, DrewVa wrote:
How do we know Profil isn’t?In post 8981, BrightEyedFish wrote:How will my mislynch solve anything?
I don’t know if it is one but finding out whether Profil did in fact send Creature a LOUD n2, will definitely help, determine that.
But if Profil is scum, how does he send Penguin a LOYAL, so your lynch still makes way more sense than Profil’s.
So, you’re far more likely to be lying here, than Profil.
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Profii would have to have the loyal modifier on himself for him to ONLY be able to gift to the same alignment. From what I understand he just gifted the loyal and doesn't have the loyal modifier in his role.In post 8987, DrewVa wrote:
I think so, isn’t that what that modifier means: same alignment as your own?In post 8983, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Can profii only send loyals to the same alignment as himself?In post 8982, DrewVa wrote:
How do we know Profil isn’t?In post 8981, BrightEyedFish wrote:How will my mislynch solve anything?
I don’t know if it is one but finding out whether Profil did in fact send Creature a LOUD n2, will definitely help, determine that.
But if Profil is scum, how does he send Penguin a LOYAL, so your lynch still makes way more sense than Profil’s.
So, for Profil to be lying about that, it also would have to mean that both Penguin and us are also lying about that and we know our alignment, so, I don’t see how Profil could be lying.
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[quote="In post 8987, DrewVa"
So, for Profil to be lying about that, it also would have to mean that both Penguin and us are also lying about that and we know our alignment, so, I don’t see how Profil could be lying.
Tin foil: maybe TLK did WIFOM us, like Xtoxm is saying? I dunno.[/quote]
So, you think I'm lying when I say that I sent my fruit to profii even after he confirms it.
And you think profii isn't lying when he says he sent it to PP but it landed on TLK which TLK confirmed.
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@everyone who isn't DrewVa
How do you feel about a DrewVa lynch today?
They are playing like they are masterminds who were supposed to have a mechanical solve today, yet they act like they don't know how loyal works. They are playing mastermind and noob at the same time and posting nothing but pointless WIFOM and making this about me v profii.- BrightEyedFish
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In post 7168, DrewVa wrote:
Yes. We actually have a full mechanical solve of the game so long as elsa jay is alive tomorrow. That's right, if scum do not shoot elsa they are 100% doomed.In post 7164, Elsa Jay wrote:Can it be me? Not by vigi obviously, but maybe mafia will be sick of my shit and take me out.
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This is a good post. But how does my flip fit in these equation?In post 9001, Jingle wrote:
Narp.In post 8995, DrewVa wrote:Emphasis, I didn’t address it to Boon but his answer will hopefully clear up which of BEF/Profil is more likely to be telling the truth about stickygate.
Scenario A.
Profii Scum, Creat Scum, No Loud- Profii didn't action.
Profii Scum, Creat Town, No Loud- Profii didn't action.
Profii Town, Creat Scum, No Loud- Profii blockededed.
Profii Town, Creat Town, No Loud- Profii blockededed.
Scenario 1
Profii Scum, Creat Scum, Loud- lmao.
Profii Scum, Creat Town, Loud- Profii actionated.
Profii Town, Creat Scum, Loud- Profii actionated.
Profii Town, Creat Town, Loud- Profii actionated.
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Would a creature lynch help us solve profii and in turn solve my role?In post 9005, Jingle wrote:
You're uh... still in a mechanical 1v1 with profii?In post 9003, BrightEyedFish wrote:This is a good post. But how does my flip fit in these equation?
Creature claiming loud implies scum in {Creature/profii/PP} or the existence of a scum rolestopper. You could argue that getting creature to commit to whether he's loud or not helps point the lynch at profii if he is, but the amount of effort to get this is . And I'm kinda leaning lynch creature from the not being able to tell if he's loud or not.- BrightEyedFish
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Explain how my flip as town or scum solves anything?In post 9008, Jingle wrote:Nope. We're definitely lynching in you/profii today. None of the other associations are strong enough to chain lynches.
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And no one is coming to my side.In post 9011, PenguinPower wrote:
For someone who was resigned to being lynched you are throwing everything you have to try and get anyone else lynched.In post 8963, BrightEyedFish wrote:I don't think people will change their minds so it seems I'm a goner.
I wish I had more dying words that could help out. I'll just say it again so you know.
I am a Town 1-shot Sticky Fruit Vendor.
I used that 1 shot on profii N1.
I never received any gifts or anything.
I think there is scum in here:
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That's exactly what it feels like.In post 9013, PenguinPower wrote:Sinking ship.- BrightEyedFish
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What's would be better for town?In post 9016, Jingle wrote:Your alignment is opposite profii's (barring ridiculous scum theater, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case at this point). If we mislynch today we lynch scum tomorrow.
A profii or BEF town flip?- BrightEyedFish
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I have a theoryIn post 9019, Creature wrote:
From the current modifiers I have, none of them are loud. So go off from that. If it's wrong we blame mod/forum screwup postgame.In post 8993, DrewVa wrote:If Creature did get LOUD n2, it means that Profil couldn’t have been jailkept and if Creature never got the LOUD, it means he probably was, this is why figuring this out is so important.- BrightEyedFish
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Here is my theory:In post 9020, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I have a theoryIn post 9019, Creature wrote:
From the current modifiers I have, none of them are loud. So go off from that. If it's wrong we blame mod/forum screwup postgame.In post 8993, DrewVa wrote:If Creature did get LOUD n2, it means that Profil couldn’t have been jailkept and if Creature never got the LOUD, it means he probably was, this is why figuring this out is so important.
Profii and Creature share a PT (cough scum pt)
Then they decided profii would make Creature loud.
Maybe profii said so in the scum PT but didn't do so in his confessional. In my confessional it clearly states that only the night actions and votes cast in the confessional will count.
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Every. Single. Player.
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I haven't been avoiding you, just sayin'In post 9031, DrewVa wrote:In post 8999, DrewVa wrote:@profiiI believe the last outstanding issue for you is that RCE asked you to shotgun some reads. What are your reads rn?
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There are several others I would rather lynch today but if it came down to me, N&M would go before I do.
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In OK2 I was playing behind a fake claim and for me its much harder to keep up motivation and enthusiasm playing behind a lie.In post 9117, DrewVa wrote:In Ok 2, BEF was never this survivalistic. Contrast BEF’s reaction to his wagon with town!Ram and town!TLK. He is suggesting lynches on pretty much anyone but him and the fact the he suggested us as a viable lynch, PRE flip, for completely NIA reasons, is extremely unlikely to ever come from town. Therefore, I’m okay with ending the day, if people want us too.
Even contrast BEF with Elsa who only pushed SS and N & M, as opposed to half the playerlist. I’m not townclearing Elsa for that but his reaction to potentially being wagoned D4, sounds a gazillion times townier than BEF’s here.- BrightEyedFish
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If someone gave me a valid reason why my lynch was good for town then I would say go ahead. Instead, everyone is reasoning their vote on me because they think I am lying. Since I know I'm not lying that means none of the votes for me are good for town.In post 9123, DrewVa wrote:
Yeah, it seems everyone would go before you, that’s why I’m thinking you could be scum here. You didn’t do this when you were being wagoned in OK 2.In post 9118, BrightEyedFish wrote:There are several others I would rather lynch today but if it came down to me, N&M would go before I do.
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They've been playing this way to me as well. I could sayIn post 9126, Nev and Max wrote:Hey BEF, can you at least tell me im not seeing things when I feel like Drew is just gaslighting the shit out of me here? Like all the one liners that can only go to attack my credibility?
"It's cold in here" they would reply with something like,
"it could be cold but it's probably hot"
and then something changes I would say,
"oh now I'm hot"
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"Actually you're cold, we know how/what you are, but we feel it's hot"- BrightEyedFish
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DrewVa (about 30 times):In post 9132, DrewVa wrote:
Find examples or stop with the ludicrous WIFOM, kthanx.In post 9129, BrightEyedFish wrote:
They've been playing this way to me as well. I could sayIn post 9126, Nev and Max wrote:Hey BEF, can you at least tell me im not seeing things when I feel like Drew is just gaslighting the shit out of me here? Like all the one liners that can only go to attack my credibility?
"It's cold in here" they would reply with something like,
"it could be cold but it's probably hot"
and then something changes I would say,
"oh now I'm hot"
and drewva would reply
"Actually you're cold, we know how/what you are, but we feel it's hot"
"BEF you're play can't be trusted because of his will/reckless OK2 play and should lynch him"
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"BEF, you're play is the opposite of OK2, you should be lynched"- BrightEyedFish
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In post 9144, Nev and Max wrote:
Dude, didnt profii mention that if he gave out all his modifers that a prize would go out?>In post 9143, BrightEyedFish wrote:Oh and town, I belive there is another gifter or such a role out there, I received a gift and BOON said it didn't come from a BOONus round.
I though he was out of mods.. anyways, doesn't matter. I will flip town 1-shot sticky fruit vendor and we will get DrewVa's flip.
Why else do you think I was so giddy to end the day?- BrightEyedFish
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Because I was hoping for this outcome.In post 9151, DrewVa wrote:So if you have the gift, and you therefore know Profii's role is real, why would you not mention this earlier, j/w?
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I don't know who it came from. I can imagine a world where profii claimed a scum partner's role and vice-versa. Seems like what I would do as scum with that role. Makes it too easy.In post 9155, Nev and Max wrote:
Profii didnt know where it was going. He seemed to indicate it was randomIn post 9145, BrightEyedFish wrote:I suspect perhaps the gifter is scum saw my frustration with drewVa and that I was going to be lynched and figured I was use it on DrewVa, they were right and I don't care.- BrightEyedFish
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