Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Something_Smart]

He's hard townreading his partner, he's not tolerating scumreads on him, and he's trying to be a major force in determining lynches.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Then you don’t really know my meta as well as you think I do. If you read my hydra PT with A50 in SC 1, he asked me why I was so “shy” about putting down a vote. I think I then voted Sadade, eventhough I wasn’t really feeling it. If I had been playing solo, I 100% wouldn’t have done that.

It’s your freaking game Krazy, how can you misrep me here, when you can verify what I’m saying is true?

To be fair I get a much weaker sense of a feel for how someone plays when I am modding the game rather than playing it. Also, that game was insane so there was a lot of things distracting me from a mod pov.

And I wouldn't say that's a misrep, it's just my recollection, and I still said you were town right there so... chill, gurl.

I’m just shocked that you didn’t read my hydra PT, especially after all of our private convos about my constantly considering replacing out because our hydra was a complete trainwreck for the most part, so I really just don’t understand this.

[Something_Smart]

What are confident townreads for you

S_S

and why?

I'm going to place a vote somewhere tonight when I get to more ISO glances.

That is the million freaking dollar question, isn't it.

You, Moment, and Brie are all townreads that I have and are shared by a flipped town that I trust.

Worm and Pink are townreads of mine, but not shared by RC/Ank.

Dann/Nancy I don't townread but RC did.

I don't know which are the most confident.

[Krazy]

I’m just shocked that you didn’t read my hydra PT, especially after all of our private convos about my constantly considering replacing out because our hydra was a complete trainwreck for the most part, so I really just don’t understand this.

I did, but mostly I just kept looking at how you were wrong on one read and right on one read, and A50 was wrong on one read and right on one read, and you kept beating your heads against each other and just never quite syncing despite both being strong players, both being right on a lot, and both being wrong on just a few key things. I guess I kinda missed your vote patterns as a result because there was a lot going on there that was just more interesting at the time

[Nancy Drew 39]

Doesn't make me scumread her

Nancy why are you ignoring this part? I am trying to be candid about my thought process and getting S_S to open up about the extent of his meta arguments, I wasn't saying I was "suspicious" of you

I’m not ignoring it at all. I just get irritated when someone misrepresents my meta. I was similarly tilted at tw in MBoS for saying that I only talk about my scum meta as scum, when that’s actually closer to NIA-townie for me to do that.

Yes, I know you’re hardtownreading me but yeah, I get tilted whenever I think my meta is being misrepresented - intentionally or not and especially because of that hydra PT I had with A50 in your game and all of our convos about how upset I was through much of that game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

It’s your freaking game Krazy, how can you misrep me here, when you can verify what I’m saying is true?

I can think of one possible reason...

#postsyouthinkarehelpfulbutarent

No, I said posts that LOOK helpful. I don't care about fluffing. I care about people who are more concerned with appearance than substance.

But Krazy has been making detailed reads, so I’m not seeing this at all. *confused*

[Something_Smart]

That's a fair point. It may just be that I'm seeing more red flag posts from Krazy because he posts more. But that statement refers to specific posts, not overall, so it's not invalidated by the fact that many of his posts do have real content.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Alright, but he won't be posting for another 10-11 hours based on his schedule.

This is not really a gamestate that dramatically rewards going 10 hours of waiting for someone to post reads they should have posted 3 days ago.

DT and moment both tbh. Eventhough I’m currently hardtownreading Dann, I don’t understand why he isn’t taking this into account. As far as I’m concerned, not posting in your PT/not doing anything to either help sort your partner/be sorted by them/giving reads’ post-flip is not pro-town irrespective of your alignment. Like we only have 5 days left, so everyone who’s town here, absolutely needs to be doing this.

[Nancy Drew 39]

What does PB have to do with your replace out? It was Slaxx you were fighting with.

Opposite of what I meant; PB has done me a solid before so I feel bad because if I'd known I would have tried to return the favor and kept my cool longer with Slaxx.

I am not following.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don't care about fluffing. I care about people who are more concerned with appearance than substance.

Yeah but if you're just going to turn into Formerfish then we're done here and you can go whenever

I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. I’m starting to get nervous here. This isn’t going to turn into another standoff with Slaxx and you replacing out, I hope?

[Krazy]

I am not following.

It had to do with something that happened in a game I was modding. This is what he meant when he said "we hadn't played together" (which he thought was true because he doesn't know about my alt) but that we'd interacted somehow anyway. I don't know how much more I can say without making it really easy to mainhunt him.

[Nancy Drew 39]

S_S

is being very towny to me :/... I feel like he'd have more leverage or partners would have an extra voice for him in this game if he were scum.

He's not confident in his reads and that coincides with his behavior.

Dr. W

, what has pinged you about

PB

?

Yes, I’m feeling pretty confident about SS!town here.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Rushing anything is bad but I think a lynch needs to be done by tomorrow. (Tuesday)

Otherwise the more discussion is made, the more muddled our reads and perception of the game become.

+1

[Nancy Drew 39]

What is meant by this?

It means you're starting to annoy me so I'm going to stop interacting with you since the signal-noise ratio is deteriorating.

Sadly I think I like you more when you're scum.

But dude, SS is nothing like FF here, not even close.

[Nancy Drew 39]

He's hard townreading his partner, he's not tolerating scumreads on him, and he's trying to be a major force in determining lynches.

Well, my only issue is you are nothing like FF, so Krazy comparing you to him, makes 0 sense to me. I would be completely ignoring your posts, if that were the case.

[Dannflor]

Please don’t lump me in with any of this. Moment’s absence is definitely hurting the game, we can’t ignore that fact. There is only a little over 5 days left! And no, I can’t elaborate on Brie, because as I already told you in our PT, I don’t want to get into trouble. I’m kind of upset that you seem to have jumped to the wrong conclusion. Sure, I absolutely could elaborate on it but I don’t know how to do that without being in violation of site rules. Yes, it’s extremely frustrating but not wanting to risk a ban is /= to lacking reasons. Whenever I say in any game ever, that I can’t elaborate or discuss anything, that is ALWAYS what I mea

Hey sorry, I should have explained better. I know you really can't elaborate for good reason, it's more as a whole the reasons for pushing Brie/Moment (particularly from Gamma) seem weak. Yours may not be, but unfortunately it's hard for me to be sure because you can't really explain it. Didn't mean to misconstrue you

[Dannflor]

Also, I don't think I want a Moment+TheBrie lynch right now at all.

I want to reread Moment, and I think TheBrie is town.

+1

[Pink Ball]

PB mind if I tell Taly in our PT?

People will read them later, I don't want to be that explicit

[Nancy Drew 39]

Please don’t lump me in with any of this. Moment’s absence is definitely hurting the game, we can’t ignore that fact. There is only a little over 5 days left! And no, I can’t elaborate on Brie, because as I already told you in our PT, I don’t want to get into trouble. I’m kind of upset that you seem to have jumped to the wrong conclusion. Sure, I absolutely could elaborate on it but I don’t know how to do that without being in violation of site rules. Yes, it’s extremely frustrating but not wanting to risk a ban is /= to lacking reasons. Whenever I say in any game ever, that I can’t elaborate or discuss anything, that is ALWAYS what I mea

Hey sorry, I should have explained better. I know you really can't elaborate for good reason, it's more as a whole the reasons for pushing Brie/Moment (particularly from Gamma) seem weak. Yours may not be, but unfortunately it's hard for me to be sure because you can't really explain it. Didn't mean to misconstrue you

All I can say, is that I think I have good reasons to feel some degree of paranoia about Brie but her not harddefending moment for her inactivity, makes me feel a lot better about her.

[DoubtingThomas]

sup

[Taly]

Krazy

has already said he doesn't want our PT leaked. I'm respecting his wishes.

In the hypothetical situation he DOES tell me, I'm going to be 100% adamant on our PT not being leaked.

But I'll wait for him to confirm or change his mind about our PT privacy,

PB

^_^ Regardless, it's your decision to give

Krazy

permission, but I don't want to out you.

...back to Math studying...

[Nancy Drew 39]

sup

Re: Thomas's wall, I don't know yet.

I'm trying to get him to talk about that stuff a little more in the PT.

Why haven’t you posted yet in your PT?

[DoubtingThomas]

Two little things

DT, what's your read on SS rn? How are you feeling about your own pairing?

Second, for some reason I really dislike trying to read things on MU, like I don't know what it is about the aesthetic of the site but it bothers me the way posts are organized, even though obviously it's like, pretty similar to here

Sorry, just finished some insane marathon nonsense, pretty wiped right now, I will think about your wall up there in more detail tomorrow morning

I think SS has already been townie when they didn't immediately accept moment's invitation and the way they got mad at brie immediately accpeting the invitation.

Then they they approached rest of the intermission also seemed like he was genuinely interested in looking to solve people/look for a townie partner to accept to dance

although we haven't talked too much on PT, he is asking some critical thinking questions that would help them read me. it looks like they are trying to solve me. i mean. i don't think it's impossible for them to replicate this as scum to fool me/make me town read them, but i made a long reasoning to why i town read you, krazy, because of that meta case post on me. S_S was still unconvinced at my reasoning and saying that he doesn't think you are incapable of that as scum. i feel like as scum, S_S would focus on perhaps trying to pocket me more? But in the PT i am feeling they are trying to have a genuine discussion about the game so they can sort my alignment and come up with a consensus reads list as a lover

[DoubtingThomas]

sup

Re: Thomas's wall, I don't know yet.

I'm trying to get him to talk about that stuff a little more in the PT.

Why haven’t you posted yet in your PT?

because i didn't log onto mafia scum?

wtf lol

[Dannflor]

DT and moment both tbh. Eventhough I’m currently hardtownreading Dann, I don’t understand why he isn’t taking this into account. As far as I’m concerned, not posting in your PT/not doing anything to either help sort your partner/be sorted by them/giving reads’ post-flip is not pro-town irrespective of your alignment. Like we only have 5 days left, so everyone who’s town here, absolutely needs to be doing this.

Yea, this is awful. If Moment and the Brie are town this puts our odds at winning way down because this could be a good pair to have around, but we might have to flip it next just for information since it can't give us much with Moment MIA. I'm just hoping Moment comes back because I think Brie is pretty town rnow