ISO as of the last several pages worth of his posts since my attention has been on other players.
But here's a few things I'm wondering about.
In post 4081, DoubtingThomas wrote:also i town read RC. I think RC's town ability is considerably good. i have no meta of you nor gamma. iirc, he hard town read you and said gamma was being worthless.
i am also ok sheeping that sentiment.
even if RC is wolf, i think he treats you and gamma like that if you are town. i really liked the way RC favored you over thebrie. tonally felt like a genuine town read, or something i dont know if wolves wanna do over their wolf packmate!gamma
In post 4305, Gamma Emerald wrote:That does help me with not having to sort my partner, now I can just jam out reads
bad post is bad
Urist
is an IC. Why does this make
Gamma
less towny or not approaching the game effectively? He's asserting his other reads as he should.
These inconsistencies don't feel genuine. I'm leaning to
DT+S_S
contain scum somewhere.
As for
PB+Dr. W
, their interaction doesn't really feel town/town to me much yet? Based on what I'm hearing from the PT. But I'm not sure if that's where I'm thinking the first lynched pair should be at the moment.
Uhm, Taly, this question is not real. I town read someone doesn't ensure that they are town. I am always wary that someone hard I townread can be a wolf at any point in the game.
Also, you are not reading my posts correctly. I didn't say Urist being an IC makes Gamma less townie. Never mentioned that anywhere and neither does that post by me imply that. I said that post is bad because Gamma is making a scummy commentary type of post. Everyone can see that Urist is an IC and that Gamma doesn't need to sort him. But Gamma went on to say that? It just looks awkward and pointless. Gamma doesn't seem like they really cared about Urist being town or not?
If I got an IC message saying S_S is town I would be like pretty fucking happy now that I can work with a confirmed town in PT?
At the same time, the post itself is just really subpar and pointless. I was pointing that out.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
Also I will say if Dannflor flips scum he just spewed me and Thomas town really hard.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
In post 4610, Dannflor wrote:I originally gave DT a town read in #3418, which reading back, I believe are pretty weak reasons. The posts I outline in DT's ISO that I think are representative of towny thought processes... aren't that impressive? I may have too hastily lumped DT into my sudden strong PvT town read just due to DT's explanation in #3216 where he lowkey supported a PvT town. I'm not sure if that's something scum wouldn't point out that. The same goes for his other "towny" talking points.
#1265Gets referenced a lot when explaining town reads on the DT slot... and I don't get it? It's a bunch of gut/tone reads and then justification for not having to explain those.
In post 1265, DoubtingThomas wrote:i also partly dont like explaining every single small things that come to my mind because
1) chances are they are wrong
2) chances are my own opinion of them change later on
3) they clog up the thread unnecessarily we honestly don't need every single detail of thoughts that I have
now, if you accept my love reqeust and we get a lovers chat, i can, of course, explain all the little things you want
This actually pings me quite a bit. Sure, you can be like "scum would never wanna be this brazen and admit this," but I don't think that's a strong enough argument.
1) Town shouldn't care about being wrong. Rather, they shouldn't care about that potential making them look suspicious. Scum care if they're caught being wrong and the associatives look bad for them.
2) Opinion changes are natural and one of the hardest things in the game for scum to fake with authenticity.
3) Sure... But there's a difference between clogging up the thread unnecessarily with every single detail and just saying "x is town" and "x is scum" off of pure gut and tone reads.
My problem with DT is that the things people point to when they say he looks towny are fairly lazy and not proactive. His entire ISO is waiting for people to come to him and interact with him. Very rarely does he take the initiative in pressuring people and it doesn't look like he's trying to proactively solve the game. There's a lot of "engage with me," but not a lot of engaging that's actually solving.
In post 3228, Gamma Emerald wrote:Like, I actually am calling you a flat out liar about you claiming to come on at the same time as me.
how the fuck am i a liar?
i never fucking lie as either alignment
like as scum i would definitely scum read you for things i would scum read as town to begin with so i dont understand what you mean by calling me a liar lol
Stuff like this also makes me doubt the strength of town reads on him. I think people tend to like him for how genuine his reads seem, but their surface level enough that I don't see why it couldn't just as easily be faked by scum.
Look at his progression in the pre-dance too:
Spoiler:
In post 3436, DoubtingThomas wrote:i think i am at the point where i'd rather just out in pre dance if i dont get brie maybe
This pings me. Specifically because it's so noncommittal. RC and Ank were obv!town because it was blatantly obvious they both believed the other was scum and was willing to leave the dance to take the other one out. Here, DT suggests he might just stay out of the pre-dance since he scum reads both Gamma and SS. Hey! That might actually be good for town and it's obviously a town motivated thing to do. Except he's never gonna actually do this, so what's the point in saying this?
I'm annoyed Brie took Moment's invitation without waiting for him to okay it, but I feel like the fact that I waited and Brie didn't should make me clearly town.
I like this post
In post 4098, DoubtingThomas wrote:gamma, if ss doesn't accept my shit and take whoever you want, will you take me to da dance
I just don't like the progression from "maybe I should just sit out" to looking for reasons to town read one of SS or Gamma. This is the kind of desperation I don't like. I don't think it's genuine trying to figure out who among the last ladies is scummier or townies, it's just looking for reasons to town read one of them so he can look fine going to the dance with them.
I'm also concerned that DT isn't actually pushing anyone. Like SS/DT is probably gonna be the first or second lynch and yet... His big most recent wall post is just defending himself from Krazy's meta case. He isn't offering up alternatives, and idk what his scum reads even are atm. Gamma?
@Thomas,
which pair is your preferred first lynch? And why haven't you made any efforts to push there? What are your reads rnow? Is SS strong town? Have you guys interacted in your PT at all?
@SS,
I think you're pretty strongly town. What is your read on DT? Also, I know you're struggling because your scum reads are all strongly town read by someone. But who is your first lynch ideally if you had complete control? Me and Nancy? What if we both flipped town?
I really really don't think we should be lynching Moment/Brie first. I have Brie as pretty strongly town (something I should probably elaborate on when I have mroe sleep tomorrow) and while I don't have a good read on Moment, I really think the amount RC + Ank pushed for Moment!town + the fact Moment hasn't even posted yet means lynching there is a terrible idea. Obviously, inactivity is harmful either way, but we might be fucking up a really strong T/T pairing as Ank and RC thought without even letting Moment get her thoughts in. I feel like maybe scum saw Moment/Brie as a threat pre-dance and are now trying to quickly dispatch of them.
There's also the fact that the reads there feel... Pretty lackluster?
Nancy can't elaborate on her Brie read
, Gamma's scum reading Moment for... not answering some question 30 pages ago. I forget what else. It's just scaring me how this pairing is the first being pushed after RC and Ank died. At the very least, it shouldn't be the first flip imo.
VOTE: DT
Please don’t lump me in with any of this. Moment’s absence is definitely hurting the game, we can’t ignore that fact. There is only a little over 5 days left! And no, I can’t elaborate on Brie, because as I already told you in our PT, I don’t want to get into trouble. I’m kind of upset that you seem to have jumped to the wrong conclusion. Sure, I absolutely could elaborate on it but I don’t know how to do that without being in violation of site rules. Yes, it’s extremely frustrating but not wanting to risk a ban is /= to lacking reasons.
Whenever I say in any game ever, that I can’t elaborate or discuss anything, that is ALWAYS what I mean
. Krazy, I think was bordering on doing something similar with you and since I also couldn’t comment on that, for similar reasons, I tried to nip it in the bud, because explaining it, is against the rules not just on here but on any mafia site. Capiche? God!
scummy overreaction, tbh
How is this an “overreaction”, let alone a “scummy” one?
***
We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 4610, Dannflor wrote:I originally gave DT a town read in #3418, which reading back, I believe are pretty weak reasons. The posts I outline in DT's ISO that I think are representative of towny thought processes... aren't that impressive? I may have too hastily lumped DT into my sudden strong PvT town read just due to DT's explanation in #3216 where he lowkey supported a PvT town. I'm not sure if that's something scum wouldn't point out that. The same goes for his other "towny" talking points.
#1265Gets referenced a lot when explaining town reads on the DT slot... and I don't get it? It's a bunch of gut/tone reads and then justification for not having to explain those.
In post 1265, DoubtingThomas wrote:i also partly dont like explaining every single small things that come to my mind because
1) chances are they are wrong
2) chances are my own opinion of them change later on
3) they clog up the thread unnecessarily we honestly don't need every single detail of thoughts that I have
now, if you accept my love reqeust and we get a lovers chat, i can, of course, explain all the little things you want
This actually pings me quite a bit. Sure, you can be like "scum would never wanna be this brazen and admit this," but I don't think that's a strong enough argument.
1) Town shouldn't care about being wrong. Rather, they shouldn't care about that potential making them look suspicious. Scum care if they're caught being wrong and the associatives look bad for them.
2) Opinion changes are natural and one of the hardest things in the game for scum to fake with authenticity.
3) Sure... But there's a difference between clogging up the thread unnecessarily with every single detail and just saying "x is town" and "x is scum" off of pure gut and tone reads.
My problem with DT is that the things people point to when they say he looks towny are fairly lazy and not proactive. His entire ISO is waiting for people to come to him and interact with him. Very rarely does he take the initiative in pressuring people and it doesn't look like he's trying to proactively solve the game. There's a lot of "engage with me," but not a lot of engaging that's actually solving.
In post 3228, Gamma Emerald wrote:Like, I actually am calling you a flat out liar about you claiming to come on at the same time as me.
how the fuck am i a liar?
i never fucking lie as either alignment
like as scum i would definitely scum read you for things i would scum read as town to begin with so i dont understand what you mean by calling me a liar lol
Stuff like this also makes me doubt the strength of town reads on him. I think people tend to like him for how genuine his reads seem, but their surface level enough that I don't see why it couldn't just as easily be faked by scum.
Look at his progression in the pre-dance too:
Spoiler:
In post 3436, DoubtingThomas wrote:i think i am at the point where i'd rather just out in pre dance if i dont get brie maybe
This pings me. Specifically because it's so noncommittal. RC and Ank were obv!town because it was blatantly obvious they both believed the other was scum and was willing to leave the dance to take the other one out. Here, DT suggests he might just stay out of the pre-dance since he scum reads both Gamma and SS. Hey! That might actually be good for town and it's obviously a town motivated thing to do. Except he's never gonna actually do this, so what's the point in saying this?
I'm annoyed Brie took Moment's invitation without waiting for him to okay it, but I feel like the fact that I waited and Brie didn't should make me clearly town.
I like this post
In post 4098, DoubtingThomas wrote:gamma, if ss doesn't accept my shit and take whoever you want, will you take me to da dance
I just don't like the progression from "maybe I should just sit out" to looking for reasons to town read one of SS or Gamma. This is the kind of desperation I don't like. I don't think it's genuine trying to figure out who among the last ladies is scummier or townies, it's just looking for reasons to town read one of them so he can look fine going to the dance with them.
I'm also concerned that DT isn't actually pushing anyone. Like SS/DT is probably gonna be the first or second lynch and yet... His big most recent wall post is just defending himself from Krazy's meta case. He isn't offering up alternatives, and idk what his scum reads even are atm. Gamma?
@Thomas,
which pair is your preferred first lynch? And why haven't you made any efforts to push there? What are your reads rnow? Is SS strong town? Have you guys interacted in your PT at all?
@SS,
I think you're pretty strongly town. What is your read on DT? Also, I know you're struggling because your scum reads are all strongly town read by someone. But who is your first lynch ideally if you had complete control? Me and Nancy? What if we both flipped town?
I really really don't think we should be lynching Moment/Brie first. I have Brie as pretty strongly town (something I should probably elaborate on when I have mroe sleep tomorrow) and while I don't have a good read on Moment, I really think the amount RC + Ank pushed for Moment!town + the fact Moment hasn't even posted yet means lynching there is a terrible idea. Obviously, inactivity is harmful either way, but we might be fucking up a really strong T/T pairing as Ank and RC thought without even letting Moment get her thoughts in. I feel like maybe scum saw Moment/Brie as a threat pre-dance and are now trying to quickly dispatch of them.
There's also the fact that the reads there feel... Pretty lackluster?
Nancy can't elaborate on her Brie read
, Gamma's scum reading Moment for... not answering some question 30 pages ago. I forget what else. It's just scaring me how this pairing is the first being pushed after RC and Ank died. At the very least, it shouldn't be the first flip imo.
VOTE: DT
Please don’t lump me in with any of this. Moment’s absence is definitely hurting the game, we can’t ignore that fact. There is only a little over 5 days left! And no, I can’t elaborate on Brie, because as I already told you in our PT, I don’t want to get into trouble. I’m kind of upset that you seem to have jumped to the wrong conclusion. Sure, I absolutely could elaborate on it but I don’t know how to do that without being in violation of site rules. Yes, it’s extremely frustrating but not wanting to risk a ban is /= to lacking reasons.
Whenever I say in any game ever, that I can’t elaborate or discuss anything, that is ALWAYS what I mean
. Krazy, I think was bordering on doing something similar with you and since I also couldn’t comment on that, for similar reasons, I tried to nip it in the bud, because explaining it, is against the rules not just on here but on any mafia site. Capiche? God!
scummy overreaction, tbh
How is this an “overreaction”, let alone a “scummy” one?
Sorry for messing up the formatting.
***
We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 4610, Dannflor wrote:I originally gave DT a town read in #3418, which reading back, I believe are pretty weak reasons. The posts I outline in DT's ISO that I think are representative of towny thought processes... aren't that impressive? I may have too hastily lumped DT into my sudden strong PvT town read just due to DT's explanation in #3216 where he lowkey supported a PvT town. I'm not sure if that's something scum wouldn't point out that. The same goes for his other "towny" talking points.
#1265Gets referenced a lot when explaining town reads on the DT slot... and I don't get it? It's a bunch of gut/tone reads and then justification for not having to explain those.
In post 1265, DoubtingThomas wrote:i also partly dont like explaining every single small things that come to my mind because
1) chances are they are wrong
2) chances are my own opinion of them change later on
3) they clog up the thread unnecessarily we honestly don't need every single detail of thoughts that I have
now, if you accept my love reqeust and we get a lovers chat, i can, of course, explain all the little things you want
This actually pings me quite a bit. Sure, you can be like "scum would never wanna be this brazen and admit this," but I don't think that's a strong enough argument.
1) Town shouldn't care about being wrong. Rather, they shouldn't care about that potential making them look suspicious. Scum care if they're caught being wrong and the associatives look bad for them.
2) Opinion changes are natural and one of the hardest things in the game for scum to fake with authenticity.
3) Sure... But there's a difference between clogging up the thread unnecessarily with every single detail and just saying "x is town" and "x is scum" off of pure gut and tone reads.
My problem with DT is that the things people point to when they say he looks towny are fairly lazy and not proactive. His entire ISO is waiting for people to come to him and interact with him. Very rarely does he take the initiative in pressuring people and it doesn't look like he's trying to proactively solve the game. There's a lot of "engage with me," but not a lot of engaging that's actually solving.
In post 3228, Gamma Emerald wrote:Like, I actually am calling you a flat out liar about you claiming to come on at the same time as me.
how the fuck am i a liar?
i never fucking lie as either alignment
like as scum i would definitely scum read you for things i would scum read as town to begin with so i dont understand what you mean by calling me a liar lol
Stuff like this also makes me doubt the strength of town reads on him. I think people tend to like him for how genuine his reads seem, but their surface level enough that I don't see why it couldn't just as easily be faked by scum.
Look at his progression in the pre-dance too:
Spoiler:
In post 3436, DoubtingThomas wrote:i think i am at the point where i'd rather just out in pre dance if i dont get brie maybe
This pings me. Specifically because it's so noncommittal. RC and Ank were obv!town because it was blatantly obvious they both believed the other was scum and was willing to leave the dance to take the other one out. Here, DT suggests he might just stay out of the pre-dance since he scum reads both Gamma and SS. Hey! That might actually be good for town and it's obviously a town motivated thing to do. Except he's never gonna actually do this, so what's the point in saying this?
I'm annoyed Brie took Moment's invitation without waiting for him to okay it, but I feel like the fact that I waited and Brie didn't should make me clearly town.
I like this post
In post 4098, DoubtingThomas wrote:gamma, if ss doesn't accept my shit and take whoever you want, will you take me to da dance
I just don't like the progression from "maybe I should just sit out" to looking for reasons to town read one of SS or Gamma. This is the kind of desperation I don't like. I don't think it's genuine trying to figure out who among the last ladies is scummier or townies, it's just looking for reasons to town read one of them so he can look fine going to the dance with them.
I'm also concerned that DT isn't actually pushing anyone. Like SS/DT is probably gonna be the first or second lynch and yet... His big most recent wall post is just defending himself from Krazy's meta case. He isn't offering up alternatives, and idk what his scum reads even are atm. Gamma?
@Thomas,
which pair is your preferred first lynch? And why haven't you made any efforts to push there? What are your reads rnow? Is SS strong town? Have you guys interacted in your PT at all?
@SS,
I think you're pretty strongly town. What is your read on DT? Also, I know you're struggling because your scum reads are all strongly town read by someone. But who is your first lynch ideally if you had complete control? Me and Nancy? What if we both flipped town?
I really really don't think we should be lynching Moment/Brie first. I have Brie as pretty strongly town (something I should probably elaborate on when I have mroe sleep tomorrow) and while I don't have a good read on Moment, I really think the amount RC + Ank pushed for Moment!town + the fact Moment hasn't even posted yet means lynching there is a terrible idea. Obviously, inactivity is harmful either way, but we might be fucking up a really strong T/T pairing as Ank and RC thought without even letting Moment get her thoughts in. I feel like maybe scum saw Moment/Brie as a threat pre-dance and are now trying to quickly dispatch of them.
There's also the fact that the reads there feel... Pretty lackluster?
Nancy can't elaborate on her Brie read
, Gamma's scum reading Moment for... not answering some question 30 pages ago. I forget what else. It's just scaring me how this pairing is the first being pushed after RC and Ank died. At the very least, it shouldn't be the first flip imo.
VOTE: DT
Please don’t lump me in with any of this. Moment’s absence is definitely hurting the game, we can’t ignore that fact. There is only a little over 5 days left! And no, I can’t elaborate on Brie, because as I already told you in our PT, I don’t want to get into trouble. I’m kind of upset that you seem to have jumped to the wrong conclusion. Sure, I absolutely could elaborate on it but I don’t know how to do that without being in violation of site rules. Yes, it’s extremely frustrating but not wanting to risk a ban is /= to lacking reasons.
Whenever I say in any game ever, that I can’t elaborate or discuss anything, that is ALWAYS what I mean
. Krazy, I think was bordering on doing something similar with you and since I also couldn’t comment on that, for similar reasons, I tried to nip it in the bud, because explaining it, is against the rules not just on here but on any mafia site. Capiche? God!
scummy overreaction, tbh
How is this an “overreaction”, let alone a “scummy” one?
dude made an entire wall literally dedicated to how I am scum but then you had to make a paragraph to try to explain how "you don't want to be lumped in with us"
Why the fuck do you care about that as town?
Why don't you want to comment on his case on me? that's probably way more worth it to talk about right?
dude made an entire wall literally dedicated to how I am scum but then you had to make a paragraph to try to explain how "you don't want to be lumped in with us"
Why the fuck do you care about that as town?
Why don't you want to comment on his case on me? that's probably way more worth it to talk about right?
In post 4637, Something_Smart wrote:Also I probably should have realized this before, but my strongest skill as a player is obvtowning while having shit reads. Which I've done here, but it doesn't count for anything if my pair gets lynched because of Thomas :/
I mean I didn't hate most of your null pool and the only slot I know you're objectively wrong on is me, and I get shitcased all the time by stronger players than you. I think it's my avi and lack of cute catchphrases. Not sure why you think your reads are shit; it's a near mathematic certainty there is scum in your bottom 3 tiers.
What did you make of dt's wall? Do you think his read of you is a natural progression?
krazy, you have an opinion on my wall literally dedicated to you?
In post 4777, Something_Smart wrote:Also I will say if Dannflor flips scum he just spewed me and Thomas town really hard.
why?
He confused something I said with something you said and then pointed it out as a contradiction.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
ISO as of the last several pages worth of his posts since my attention has been on other players.
But here's a few things I'm wondering about.
In post 4081, DoubtingThomas wrote:also i town read RC. I think RC's town ability is considerably good. i have no meta of you nor gamma. iirc, he hard town read you and said gamma was being worthless.
i am also ok sheeping that sentiment.
even if RC is wolf, i think he treats you and gamma like that if you are town. i really liked the way RC favored you over thebrie. tonally felt like a genuine town read, or something i dont know if wolves wanna do over their wolf packmate!gamma
In post 4305, Gamma Emerald wrote:That does help me with not having to sort my partner, now I can just jam out reads
bad post is bad
Urist
is an IC. Why does this make
Gamma
less towny or not approaching the game effectively? He's asserting his other reads as he should.
These inconsistencies don't feel genuine. I'm leaning to
DT+S_S
contain scum somewhere.
As for
PB+Dr. W
, their interaction doesn't really feel town/town to me much yet? Based on what I'm hearing from the PT. But I'm not sure if that's where I'm thinking the first lynched pair should be at the moment.
Could be. I liked DT initially, then my read on him, dropped. I wish he’d post something in the PT. That is also what’s concerning me about moment except why does DT post here but not in his PT with SS?
what the fuck is this
why do you care if i post in a pt with someone else? LOL seems like a fabricated reason to make me look scummy
In post 4678, Something_Smart wrote:I just realized it's hypocritical to suspect Nancy for not being able to read Gamma when she said she was obvtown in a previous game... because I too have read Gamma as obvtown before but cannot read her here.
My first ever meta case on Gamma was that she enjoys scum a bit more than town, so she has an inverted meta (the opposite of the Creature-style meta of 'lurk as scum, post a lot as town') and she tends to post heavier as scum. But I think that's because Gamma feeds back on feeling like she's part of a team. So it is plausible to me that she just really likes not having to sort her partner and that's why there's been a big upsurge in her confidence post-intermission.
Also possible that she just likes her scumteam a lot here though so... hard to say for sure. But that seems unlikely if DT flips scum, which is one of several reasons that I think we need some red flips so we can get a better feel for how the scum even feel about this game.
Your meta of me is very accurate, well done! I've actually noted myself I enjoy town more except in a good scumteam. And I think my confidence is in part because of my partner being IC'd because the cause is the flips are telling me I'm on track. So my townread on Pvt fed into that.
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
nancy i dont want to make you cry like i did last time
you can case me if you want but you have to stop stalking me about whether or not I post in a PT with somebody else
why does me posting in PT or not posting in PT even matter for you? you cannot possibly think that is alignment indicative of me
i posted in the thread whenever i posted in the PT. S_S was probably talking about me not being in the thread after i went to sleep lastnight at 1 am or whenever
Well my first impression to it was "what" and now I'm kinda with everyone else in trying to decide if you thinking vedith/fire was still alive is actually AI
I can't tell if it's playstyle or what but I've felt very desynced from you. I didn't get why you didn't try to make your pairing with Brie happen and I didn't get why you hard-defended yourself when you were barely townreading SS.
Still processing it I guess, sorry that I don't have a more cohesive response to it yet
In post 4678, Something_Smart wrote:I just realized it's hypocritical to suspect Nancy for not being able to read Gamma when she said she was obvtown in a previous game... because I too have read Gamma as obvtown before but cannot read her here.
My first ever meta case on Gamma was that she enjoys scum a bit more than town, so she has an inverted meta (the opposite of the Creature-style meta of 'lurk as scum, post a lot as town') and she tends to post heavier as scum. But I think that's because Gamma feeds back on feeling like she's part of a team. So it is plausible to me that she just really likes not having to sort her partner and that's why there's been a big upsurge in her confidence post-intermission.
Also possible that she just likes her scumteam a lot here though so... hard to say for sure. But that seems unlikely if DT flips scum, which is one of several reasons that I think we need some red flips so we can get a better feel for how the scum even feel about this game.
Your meta of me is very accurate, well done! I've actually noted myself I enjoy town more except in a good scumteam. And I think my confidence is in part because of my partner being IC'd because the cause is the flips are telling me I'm on track. So my townread on Pvt fed into that.
krazy having a wrong meta read is not the first time
Well my first impression to it was "what" and now I'm kinda with everyone else in trying to decide if you thinking vedith/fire was still alive is actually AI
I can't tell if it's playstyle or what but I've felt very desynced from you. I didn't get why you didn't try to make your pairing with Brie happen and I didn't get why you hard-defended yourself when you were barely townreading SS.
Still processing it I guess, sorry that I don't have a more cohesive response to it yet
In post 4620, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:At any rate, I’m hardtownreading Dann for 4610. I have good reason to think that this kind of passion he’s showing here about being leery of disregarding RC reads and being concerned about possibly mislynching moment/Brie never comes from scum!Dann. Do you agree @Krazy?
do you town read dann for anything frmo PT?
He has been genuinely and thoughtfully engaging with me, since intermission. I wanted to get his reads both during and post, to A) get a jump on the game, since I slept through Witches’ Ball and
B) because I wanted to see how his reads compared with post-dance 1 and post-flips and based on both what he’s been posting both in our PT and in the main thread - his adamant concern with not disregarding RC’s moment/Brie reads, reads really townie to me. I also don’t see scum!him ICing Urist.
C) Once again, something I can’t elaborate on but I just can’t see that kind of passion coming from scum!Dann.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
. I have good reason to think that this kind of passion he’s showing here about being leery of disregarding RC reads and being concerned about possibly mislynching moment/Brie never comes from scum!Dann. Do you agree @Krazy?
@DT
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
also i tried to make my pairing with brie happen, i just was busy and couldn't be on thread as much as i should have to play the game properly. sorry about that but i did go for brie pairing. she just accepted moment's especially after S_S wanted to wait and let moment choose. i think that act is kinda scummy in itself and not understanding why she is not getting more heat
also i hard defended myself because i town read SS and not scum read SS. that is not hard to understand. I think there are definite scum in Gamma or Brie. Maybe in PB, Nancy, etc if I look more into it. what are you curious about?
In post 4695, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Then you don’t really know my meta as well as you think I do. If you read my hydra PT with A50 in SC 1, he asked me why I was so “shy” about putting down a vote. I think I then voted Sadade, eventhough I wasn’t really feeling it. If I had been playing solo, I 100% wouldn’t have done that.
It’s your freaking game Krazy, how can you misrep me here, when you can verify what I’m saying is true?
To be fair I get a much weaker sense of a feel for how someone plays when I am modding the game rather than playing it. Also, that game was insane so there was a lot of things distracting me from a mod pov.
And I wouldn't say that's a misrep, it's just my recollection, and I still said you were town right there so... chill, gurl.
Nah I get a lot of tips on reading people from games I mod
<Embrace The Void>
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. I have good reason to think that this kind of passion he’s showing here about being leery of disregarding RC reads and being concerned about possibly mislynching moment/Brie never comes from scum!Dann. Do you agree @Krazy?
@DT
i said anything frmo PT. 4610 is a post in this thread?
I thought it was weird for you to have to mention a single post in the main thread to town read him when he's been engaging you interactively in PT
