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Post Post #1053  (isolation #200)  » Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:31 am

In post 1049, Sudo_Nym wrote:2) Piper Niven vs. Serena Deeb and Rachel Evers vs. Abbey Laith were both two of the best women's matches WWE has put on.


I thought thought those matches were good, but not close to the Kairi matches or The Jazzy-Abbey match. Also Tessa Blanchard isn't really a rookie.

Pedit: Imagine having Cedric Alexander on your roster and only letting himfight 10% of it =(
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Post Post #1058  (isolation #201)  » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:10 am

I really do not like Mercedes at all.
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Post Post #1061  (isolation #202)  » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:20 am

Right, if you don't watch 205 live you get 2 guys in a dark match on ppvs for the belt, and the occasional X man tag to build the 2 man feud and never see the other guys unless you tune in. Also, because they don't ever interact with non-205 guys(aside from I guess Titus who might as well be a 205 guy as a manager) it feels like they are in a completely different stadium from the "main roster". Never see them backstage during other segments. Never see them do anything other than their big tag and neville say x challenger is scrub bow to king NEVIILLLLEEE.

They should use the big year long new day run(and basically all of attitude era in general) as a lesson. Interacting with other people outside of your division, even if it's just something silly like when the new day were doing the pyramid when the bellas walked by, really helps make it feel like all these people are connected and not just completely insular products that only interact when you need to change pairs.
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Post Post #1063  (isolation #203)  » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:34 am

mae young finished up, was really really fricking good.
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Post Post #1065  (isolation #204)  » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:38 am

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Post Post #1067  (isolation #205)  » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:59 pm

No mercy is tonight? Neat. I'll catch that instead of world's I guess
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Post Post #1069  (isolation #206)  » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:01 am

I liked the enzo match.
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Post Post #1071  (isolation #207)  » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:22 am

Yeah, i super don't like the promos that have been going with Enzo. They he has real life heat and is a scumbag promos. And I hated the "who's your daddy" thing. I like his 205 live matches tho. And his Neville match. Did not like the beetlejuice outfit.

Thought the finishes in the Cena and Brock matches were really poor. I wasn't a fan of the women's match either. Or the Bray Match. Basically I liked Miz, Tag teams, and Enzo. Women on second thought were firmly in between the cena/bray/brock bad stuff and the miz/tag/enzo good stuff.
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Post Post #1072  (isolation #208)  » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:22 am

Alexa Bliss is my fuckign hero tho
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Post Post #1073  (isolation #209)  » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:24 am

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Post Post #1076  (isolation #210)  » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:35 am

Well, I agree, but I didn't like any of the booking from the Roman/Cena match. The reason I didn't is because I feel like they booked it exactly how roman haters criticize him for being booked.
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They both trade offense for most the match, then Roman kicked out of a finisher, a SUPER FINISHER, and a Floatover Double Finisher(with like one major offensive move in between - the table spear that cole/graves sold like it hurt both guys). Then Roman wins with superman, spear. No set up. No build. No multiple kick outs. It was the same with styles. He ate like 2-3 different intensity Styles clashes. And won. With regular ass finisher. The booking truly is letting him down. I like the guy. I like the guy a lot actually. But the whole point of the match was to get reigns over as the bad guy, but all they did was give us more of the same. In a way, I guess they succeeded. Cena couldn't bury Reigns. The company is too strong. Even Cena has to lay down for THE GUY and his move



I'm not even a Roman hater, and i don't even dislike that he won, I just am bored. They need to spice it up man. Watching these matches is like having missionary sex everynight for like 2 years straight. I need some variation.

I think Roman really needs a "Super Finisher". Like how they used to use the Burning Hammer and the Tiger Driver in old AJPW and how Steen used to use the Steenalyzer. Something he can pull out once or twice a year when it matters and put a guy away. And let people kick out of Superman punch spear. I really think Reigns is talented but it's boring the way his matches have become interchangeable almost. Believe it or not...the only guy who I feel he has truly TRULY enjoyable matches with...is Bray. And that guy hasn't won in like 3 years. Oh, the Braun matches were good.
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Post Post #1088  (isolation #211)  » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:41 am

Isn't Rollins new finish the rain-trigger?
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Post Post #1092  (isolation #212)  » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:20 pm

In post 1090, KidAmn wrote:They called his Knee-Trigger "King's Landing" so maybe they settled on that as the name for it, but I don't know that it's his set in stone finisher.

It's not the ripchord knee anymore?

Edit: checked wiki, Def name changed to "king's landing"
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Post Post #1093  (isolation #213)  » Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:22 pm

In post 1091, Sudo_Nym wrote:I also think they should bring back generic finishers; moves that aren't necessarily associated with any one particular wrestler, but can still get the pin- before the AE, at least, the Superplex would finish people, even if it wasn't the wrestler's actual finish. Having some moves just be established as supermoves no matter who does them could be a useful part of in-ring storytelling.

Right, I'm all for guys getting pins in TV matches with weird stuff to build story.
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Post Post #1094  (isolation #214)  » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:40 pm

Why does this Miz-Roman program somehow feel liek a demotion for the Miz?
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Post Post #1096  (isolation #215)  » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:54 pm

nvm..it's THE BAAAARRRRR and the shield is back
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Post Post #1103  (isolation #216)  » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:14 am

Honestly....I'm still on season 1. I need to catch up on netflix. Then torrent season 3 somwhere.
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Post Post #1105  (isolation #217)  » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:09 am

Idk, I liked chubby big tittle Katrina a lot. It makes my life.
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Post Post #1108  (isolation #218)  » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:04 am

Usos/new day was so good I don't even want to watch the ppv. Call it a night. That's a rap. WWE Moty. YOU GOING TO JAIL UCE! Fuck man. This is wrestling!
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Post Post #1110  (isolation #219)  » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:17 am

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Post Post #1129  (isolation #220)  » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:20 pm

In post 1126, Sudo_Nym wrote:It's confirmed that he walked out on Raw; the Enzo-Kalisto match was apparently supposed to be at TLC and the Raw match was supposed to be an Enzo-Neville rematch, but Neville stormed out. He also no-showed 205 Live, and is supposedly telling people he quit, but WWE is saying that he didn't. So, watch out for Neville turning up in NJPW or something, I guess.


Yeah, lots of talk he asked for his release.

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Post Post #1130  (isolation #221)  » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:24 am

I'm two weeks or so behind on NXT, but I got to the Lio Rush segment and I'm really fucking salty
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Post Post #1132  (isolation #222)  » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:40 am

The shield is Def over. It sounded like boos when Kurt handed Roman the mic.
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Post Post #1134  (isolation #223)  » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:48 am

I went to Hell in a cell 2015, and it was big loud boos when he came out but big loud cheers like halfway through the match with Bray, which was basically a staple of the Reigns thing from like 2015 royal rumble until last monday when he re-united with the shield and reddit decided roman reigns was good again.
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Post Post #1145  (isolation #224)  » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:00 pm

In post 1135, T-Bone wrote:The Shield thing is a ploy to get Roman cheered again...and it is working.


Right, the wreddit army is somehow simultaneously cheering the shield but asking Seth Rollins during live podcasts who he would have wanted to replace Roman for the SHIELD reunion cause Roman sucks. Same question went into to the edge and christian podcast. Answers have been "it's not a shield reunion if it's without Roman, you idiots".

It's a very bizarre mixture of emotions for the neckbeard wreddit smarks. If this gets Roman over permanently tho, I'd be cool with it. Stop ruining wrestling smarks.

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Post Post #1171  (isolation #225)  » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:21 pm

I think that was pre-DB retired. I recall him saying stuff about losing feeling in his hands at random and he told ABC news that he was having seizures due to past concussions and that why he hung it up.
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Post Post #1185  (isolation #226)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:35 pm

I stopped watching Bray matches after Wrestlemania. I can't keep caring for a guy that ALWAYS loses and then cuts 15 minute promos about how he's the best and his voodoo magic is really gonna work this time guys because I'm in a dress now, or let's fight the man version of you cause I'm a god, or w/e the fuck. It's Dolph Ziggler 2.0, not Undertaker 2.0 at this point. But I really doubt him or Bo will leave, because they are 3rd generation WWE guys.Their dad was the IRS and gramps was Blackjack Mulligan. They are WWE for life, it's what they grew up on and it's what they want to do. Also, I think the best part of Bray imparticular would be lost if he went somewhere where he didn't get to cut high production 10-20 minute promos weekly. What you want to see him in NJPW where he'd get to talk a quarter as much, build his character a quarter as much, and essentially just be a bigger version of Evil or a less strong-style version of Isshi? Or work in ROH where they legit do like 1 5 minute promo a night? He could go to PROGRESS, but that's a much smaller promotion and a lot of their top guys just got poached by the E. I know leaving is in vogue right now(Neville might be a work,btw) because of how successful CodyRhodes has been but part of what made leaving a thing for him is that Dusty told him to leave a few years prior to his death and Dusty wasn't really a WWE guy to begin with. He was a WCW guy. Cody grew up loving Sting and watching all the WCW stuff. So his connection is a lot smaller than someone who grew up on WWE or their childhood dream was to be in WWE(Zach Ryder is an example as well as Bray/Bo).

But yeah, AJ is simply a stand-in because a shit ton of guys on Raw got the Mumps or some shit. Kurt Angle pushes us into a Shield, Jason Jordan, + a guy survivor series match against braun, kane, bar, miz; which sure, cool.
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Post Post #1187  (isolation #227)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:12 pm

In post 1186, Sudo_Nym wrote:Bray is pretty good for his size; he probably could go to NJPW, but he isn't going to get over like he did in WWE. But if Prince Albert can go to New Japan and become a star, so can Bray. Being a second-string guy in the Bullet Club would probably be his upper limit, though.


See i think his character/personality fit would suck in Bullet Club. The faction I'd want to see him in is Ingobernables de Japon, but that "de Japon" part is a real bitch.
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Post Post #1188  (isolation #228)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:14 pm

my arguement against Bullet Club is...at some point doesn't he just become this guy with better tattoos and beard?

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Post Post #1191  (isolation #229)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:33 pm

The thing I'd actually like most is if he became either a permanent 3rd member or a guest 3rd member of War Machine and they went around taking Trio Titles and killing people.
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Post Post #1193  (isolation #230)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:41 pm

lmao. As much as I'd want to see him do a meltzer driver(the top rope part), I'm gonna have to pass on that idea.
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Post Post #1214  (isolation #231)  » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:44 am

Right, that's why that match sucked, because people are talking about how surprisingly competitive Emma was and not talking about Asuka. Asuka is the star. Why would you book a match that wouldn't be her coming out party? They did the same shit to Shinsuke
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Post Post #1216  (isolation #232)  » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:15 am

The win isn't what mattered tho. The fact that she wrestled from under is the problem. She's undefeated. She's beaten emma before(2 years ago!). She's reigned NXT for 2+ years. She shouldn't be wrestling like an underdog to a jobber.
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Post Post #1220  (isolation #233)  » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:01 am

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Post Post #1240  (isolation #234)  » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:24 pm

In order:
Luke Harper
Cedric Alexander
Bray Wyatt
Bo Dallas
Dolph Ziggler
Various other cruisers.
Hideo Itami

(Alicia Fox would be on this list but I think it's happening?)
Also wouldn't mind Shinsuke getting some love instead of losing to jinder and being called racist things for 3 months.
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Post Post #1242  (isolation #235)  » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:46 pm

I want that, but I also don't want another hour of wrestling a week.
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Post Post #1244  (isolation #236)  » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:46 am

Yeah, man. They buried Roman on TLC. They had some old guy just pretend to be him. It was the worst.
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Post Post #1251  (isolation #237)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:21 pm

I'm already bored with survivor series.
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Post Post #1255  (isolation #238)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:10 pm

okay

why a book a 50/50 match with asuka if you're just gonna release the girl a week later?
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Post Post #1257  (isolation #239)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:35 pm

COUNTER FUN FACT: YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!

In post 1256, Sudo_Nym wrote:Fun fact: Darren Young's release means that there's only one member of the Nexus still wrestling in WWE.
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Post Post #1259  (isolation #240)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:01 pm

you didn't say that in your original post. You didn't say night 1 nexus, you said the nexus. Also i'm not having a repeat of the childish conversation I just had with you on discord. So here's wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nexus_(professional_wrestling)

and here's our chat log


PJ - Today at 12:37 PM
heath and bray. 2 not 1
Sudo_Nym - Today at 12:37 PM
Bray's been out for week, though
Heath's the only one actually wrestling
PJ - Today at 12:38 PM
that's a hell of a technicality
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Hey, if you want to count Husky Harris, that's on you
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you could say - if that's the case
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cause heath hasn't been on tv in weeks
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Been in dark matches, though, and wrestles on house shows.
PJ - Today at 12:39 PM
give me a break
Sudo_Nym - Today at 12:39 PM
Still more than Bray's done
PJ - Today at 12:39 PM
if you want to be childish cause bray got the mumps, that's fine man
Sudo_Nym - Today at 12:40 PM
Besides, Husky Harris wasn't one of the original 8 of the Nexus anyway. He joined later.
Technically, you could also say Otunga's still around, too, but he's not wrestling either.
Daniel Bryan's still around, too, but doesn't wrestle either.
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you sound ridiculous. he was supposed to be the co-main of the last ppv
like are you saying roman reigns is also not wrestling with the wwe?
cause he got the mumps for a week?
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Roman got the mumps for a week and came back. Bray got the mumps and has been out for almost a month.
But whatever, Bray wasn't original Nexus anyway
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roman hasn't come back yet tho
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Post Post #1261  (isolation #241)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:16 pm

I think I was talking about wrestling and not airing dirty laundry. I was merely putting the conversation we already had about wrestling in the thread about wrestling since he was so inclined to want to have the conversation twice.

I was merely wanting to joke around, he seemed to take great offense to the possibility he could be wrong.

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I think I hate WWE. I super think we need more tag teams. The women need better booking. I'm over Fashion Files. Bludgeon Brothers suck(LUKE HARPER SOLO PUSH PLEASE). I'm over Jinder. Over Brock. Shield is nice but it's made the IWC even more insufferable. Survivor Series with 0 stakes is gonna be boring. Really hoping smackdown doesn't go without KO AND SAMI for the survivor series 5v5 cause that would make it even more boring. Best thing all week is Drew Gulak.

Gotta catch up on NXT still tho. I don't think I like the Street Prophets. Drew McIntyre is aight. Leo Rush is fantastic but in a company that hates him. I know i should hate Velveteen Dream but I love him. Aleistar Black is meh. NXT girls are all really good but until the women get better stories on the main roster, it's more disheartening to see them be so damn good than exciting.
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Post Post #1263  (isolation #242)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:33 pm

i got njpw on kodi. Don't want to buy stardom(or shell out real money for NJPW) mostly because i don't want to call the bank to be like "yes, send my money to Japan for pro wrestling please"
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Post Post #1264  (isolation #243)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:34 pm

But yeah, I watch some NJPW and some RoH. I gotta find a good way to watch PWG without paying an arm and a leg(or moving to Reseda).
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Post Post #1310  (isolation #244)  » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:11 am

YOU'LL NEVER PLAY THIS GAME AGAIN!!!

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Post Post #1319  (isolation #245)  » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:46 am

I like broken matt. Bummed they waited this long to make sure that it didn't cost them any money(they wouldnt of lost the legal battle but that still cost money) and I feel like broken matt might be old news by now but I think the program with Bray makes sense and if done correctly can elevate both guys(hopefully it'll fix bray....)
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Post Post #1322  (isolation #246)  » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:07 pm

Brutal lucha underground spot. NSFW

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Post Post #1324  (isolation #247)  » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:17 am

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Post Post #1326  (isolation #248)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:38 pm

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Post Post #1334  (isolation #249)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:22 am

Weird cause NXT is a great product. 2-3 of the best 5 matches in the brand happened under the NXT banner.

Also ADAM COLE BAYBAY.

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Post Post #1336  (isolation #250)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:45 am

I think I enjoyed clash of Champions. It was very bizarre though.
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Post Post #1342  (isolation #251)  » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:50 pm

In post 1337, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1334, Panzerjager wrote:Weird cause NXT is a great product. 2-3 of the best 5 matches in the brand happened under the NXT banner.

Might be why, I'm bigger on promos than actual ring work.

Also the fact that they use stadium lighting in smaller arenas really bugs me

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Post Post #1348  (isolation #252)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:54 pm

lol. "We need more young guys like Samoa Joe"....jesus christ man.

Like...I wasn't a fan of the story leading up to that match and I don't know where that storyline is going, but people very obviously still care about Ziggler. Him winning was one of the loudest pops of the night(albeit a night that was fairly confusing regarding pops despite being entertaining). But everytime the guy wins people lose their fucking minds and while I agree that WWE never EVER captilizes on it and I legit do not know why but the guy has potential for a MEMORABLE run, but the thing with Dolph is that this happens legit every year or so. Dolph gets a win, people go fucking insane, then we all get to debate "is this Dolph's time" then he either A) gets hurt and disappears or B) gets put in a GOD AWFUL story (i.e that fucking love rectangle with Summer, Lana, and Rusev)
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Post Post #1358  (isolation #253)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:36 pm

In post 1350, TwoInAMillion wrote:I never said we need more young guys like Samoa Joe, just stating the fact that there are younger guys that are more profitable for WWE than ziggler.


Joe is older than Ziggler was my point. Braun is 34 and has had 1 good year. The Shield are like the 3 biggest stars in the company. The basically only 1 guy that's not basically 30 and on the main roster. It's bo dallas.
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Post Post #1359  (isolation #254)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:42 pm

In post 1357, Nexus wrote:Stephanie McMahon shits up literally every angle she is involved in.


Eh...I'm not this harsh on her but she Def needs more comeuppance
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Post Post #1364  (isolation #255)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:31 pm

I don't think it's a steph thing that she doesn't get her comeuppance anymore, after all she was the head writer back when rock and Jericho would make fun of her titjob and call her a slut and shit.
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Post Post #1365  (isolation #256)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:40 pm

But yeah that does change the fact that her wrestlemania bump every year is a fair trade for her cutting everyone's balls off all year. But she has some legit promo skills, obv.

Miz is the best talker in the company in quite sometime tho.
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Post Post #1369  (isolation #257)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:50 pm

That's just plain not true. Dolph has like 3-4 ridiculously large pops like...loudest ever type pops to his name and he had the 2nd loudest pop of the night on sunday.
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Post Post #1370  (isolation #258)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:53 pm

By comparison, AJ wrestled to basically silence and got golf claps when he won and you can't blame jinder who got much bigger pops and there was a dude in a jinder shirt front row. The Sami-ko match had some heat but not a lot. Women wrestled in silence per the main roster norm.
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Post Post #1388  (isolation #259)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:57 am

In post 1374, Sudo_Nym wrote:You might think that, but Bayley was over like gangbusters with that gimmick in NXT and her first few main roster appearances; "I'm A Hugger" shirts sold out every show, and there was always a "Hugger Section" in the crowd. She was magic before they decided to chop her legs off to feed Bliss.


The issue wasn't even that she got fed to Bliss, it was that the program was SOOOOO bad and because the women are only allowed basically one segment on RAW a night(up until Asuka came which I'm sure will die soon) that once the program ended she just disappeared. They've been teasing a Sasha turn ever since and just have never pulled the trigger on it.

But yeah, Bayley was a little girl merch MACHINE...like Nikki Bella levels of little girl cosplay type shit. Even when she debuted on the main roster. Part of me feels like the women should get their own time(especially because 205 Live is going to be killed here soon) but another part of me feels that seperate is inherently unequal. And if they seperate the women, and they can't keep screaming about the women's revolution on Raw every couple weeks then they wouldn't put the effort in. But yeah, i'd be down with like killing 205 live and putting like 90 minutes of women's wrestling on Wednesdays after NXT.

TwoInAMillion wrote:Well, to be fair, I see Bliss having a longer WWE career than Bayley.

Probably true because Vince fucking LOVES alexa bliss and she's already made the jump to total divas.

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In post 1374, Sudo_Nym wrote:You might think that, but Bayley was over like gangbusters with that gimmick in NXT and her first few main roster appearances; "I'm A Hugger" shirts sold out every show, and there was always a "Hugger Section" in the crowd. She was magic before they decided to chop her legs off to feed Bliss.



Also over in NXT: the Vaudevillains, the Ascension, Enzo/Cass, Jason Jordan, Nakamura

Some of it is misbooking (Nakamura) but some of it is that Indy style gimmicks still work in small venues like NXT and don't translate as well to weekly television.


JJ was never over solo in NXT. American Alpha was over. Mostly because of Chad Gable. And Chad Gable is STILL over. Enzo/Cass were SUPER over on Raw until they broke them up and Cass got hurt. But every arena loved the certified G thing.

But yeah, The problem is people get over in NXT with H then H dumps them on Vince's doorstep and Vince doesn't really know or care who they are. The cycle starts over and sometimes Vince is just like, Nope give me somethign else.

But yeah, Nakamura bad booking, Asuka seeming like bad booking(going 50/50 with Emma and Alicia Fox despite me loving those girls isn't what Asuka should be doing), Bobby Roode seeming like bad booking.

Sudo_Nym wrote: Or maybe she'd be fired, since the WWE doesn't need to put up with talent talking back to them any more.


This is definitely not a thing. Rollins is famously a self-advocate. As is KO. As is Jericho. As is Deano. The common thread there is that those guys typically deal directly with Vince and not play a weird game of telephone between producers.

Sudo_Nym wrote:Yeah, lots of people did hard chair shots. But even for the era, Rock's chair shots were brutal. And Rock did know better, since that fucker always got his hand up, even though you didn't have to back then.


I'd have to go back to watch Rocky's chair shots, but when I think of brutal headshots I always think of Undertaker destroying Maven and I get just queasy enough to not want to explore more.
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Post Post #1391  (isolation #260)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:36 pm

In post 1390, Majiffy wrote:Alicia Fox is great though glad she's been on more
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Post Post #1396  (isolation #261)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:53 pm

Well, like...If they want 205 live to matterm they should make it matter. They basically put them on Raw every week as filler than slot them in the dark matches which screams "these matches don't actually matter and it's all low stakes" Like if they want me to REALLY care about 205 live, just separate it entirely, make it flippy guy indie wrestling and i'm in.
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Post Post #1398  (isolation #262)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:39 pm

In post 1397, Sudo_Nym wrote:Hell, they even put a ban on what moves they're allowed to do so they don't outshine the talent that they actually care about.


Is this true?

I know that they curate what moves heels can do and can't do but i've never heard anything about women getting moves banned. Also if that's true they were doing a bad fucking job with Nikki Bella cause she legit had my two fav moves in wrestling until one of them broke her neck.
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Post Post #1400  (isolation #263)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:58 pm

Well shooting star presses have been banned for a while despite them letting Shane do one. I've definitely heard rumors that Charlotte has an amazing off the top rope move set that she's never shown. I forgot who said it or what podcast, but they said she was a better flier than RVD and has a whole host of moves.
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Post Post #1420  (isolation #264)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:25 am

Ali was diagnosed in 84. Dudes were still taking big headshots until Benoit in 2007. Nfl didn't start making head trauma related safety regulations until 2010. First paper written on CTE was 1949. We've known about this for a while. We just haven't given a fuck until recently.
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Post Post #1423  (isolation #265)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:32 am

I finally caught up on smackdown. WEEHAW ZIGGLER
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Post Post #1425  (isolation #266)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:48 am

Watching final battle...first hour was great. 2nd hour off to an okay start with the tag title match. Crowd was dead for it tho, and there wasn't much to it other than the few comedy spots and 1 of the unintentionally funny spots. Chuckie T got killed by a streamer though, so that was good. But highly recommend the first hour of Final Battle it was FIRE
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Post Post #1426  (isolation #267)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:54 am

Oh its Silas young.. this is gonna be a bad match. 2nd hour gonna be no good
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Post Post #1427  (isolation #268)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:07 am

Shane Taylor getting verbally abused by the crowd. Yikes.
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Post Post #1428  (isolation #269)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:27 am

Last 10 min of second hour is part of the Briscoes vs dreamer and bully ray. This is gonna be disgusting, awful, or both.
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Post Post #1429  (isolation #270)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:34 am

[ DREAMERRRRRR. 1 2 3 GET THE TABLESSSSSSS
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Post Post #1430  (isolation #271)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:45 am

That was good but disgusting...last matches are the trios match everyone was talking about on twitter and Cody vs DALTON CASTLE for the world title
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Post Post #1431  (isolation #272)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:06 am

Yeah, idk why everyone was in an uproar about this 6 man match, it's just normal young bucks stuff. Adam Page doing some Joey Ryan nonsense (side note Joey Ryan been being ripped off a lot lately, cruisers did the sweet tooth music back in October)
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Post Post #1432  (isolation #273)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:17 am

That finish was nuts. After match was nice. Time for my dude Dalton castle and cody
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Post Post #1433  (isolation #274)  » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:00 am

Castle and Cody had a hell of a match, gonna watch power struggle and either king of pro wrestling, g1 final, or tag league final over the next 2 days to get me hype for Wrestling kingdom in like 10 days.
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Post Post #1434  (isolation #275)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:37 am

Shibata vs Okada might be the most udnerrated match of the year. Might be the most underrated match ever?
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Post Post #1436  (isolation #276)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:12 pm

In post 1435, Sudo_Nym wrote:Shibata vs. Okada got five stars from Big Dave, tho.


That's true. But like, all other media outlets that are like "best matches of the year" have like bunch of WWE stuff, the Okada-Omega trio, Kushida-Ospreay, ect, Bate vs Dunne. Not many people talking about Shibata. I've even seen okada vs Suzuki higher. And it's kinda ridiculous.
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Post Post #1438  (isolation #277)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:38 am

When it was fresher in my mind, I think I agreed that Okada-Omega 2 was better, but I'm only like 3-4 months out from watching that match but i'm like 6 months out from watching the Shibata match and I can't really remember much of either omega match but I have basically the entire story burned into my mind from that Shibata match.
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Post Post #1440  (isolation #278)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:00 am

Not much? I honestly thought the storyline was better. From Shibata getting mount early then giving it up and toy with Okada by being the experienced "shoot fighter" while Okada was the young inexperienced champion. How Okada immediately started with the extra aggression and not breaking on rope counts, trying to even the gap to Shibata finally getting sick of it and abandon his submission game and starts walking through strikes and slapping the piss out of Okada to the slap each other from the ground spot then of course the headbutt into the finish with multiple rainmakers. The headbutt is important but I think it's not why that match is burned into my mind. A lot of Okada matches blend together on my mind (not to take away anything from him) but that one was just so different.
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Post Post #1442  (isolation #279)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:00 am

Did they have any nxt finalist?
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Post Post #1449  (isolation #280)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:12 pm

In post 1447, Majiffy wrote:Speaking of frogsplash when did that get barred? Never see that anymore


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Post Post #1454  (isolation #281)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:18 am

I think both English and Rusev are waaaay over. I was surprised but like big cheers.
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Post Post #1455  (isolation #282)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:02 am

also...is Samoa Joe a low key dangerous worker?
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Post Post #1460  (isolation #283)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:48 am

In post 1456, T-Bone wrote:Seth was the one who actually injured Dean...they are just blaming it on Joe for storyline purposes.

Unless you have a different incident in mind?

Well, he hurt Tyson Kidd and he hurt Seth. Both were considered freak accidents and I figured if he got a 3rd injury under his belt it was worth a discussion(i didn't actually see the deano injury, so my b).

I really like CJ Gable, and I think he'd actually be better in the spot that Jason Jordan got(not because he's white but because I think he's a better heel and I think that unlocks him from being THE GUY in American Alpha. I think JJ is more of a face and I'd have loved to see JJ and Benjamin in a tag team instead of like American Alpha 2(even though that promo two weeks ago was FIRE).
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Post Post #1462  (isolation #284)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:29 am

In post 1461, T-Bone wrote:The best part about Gable/Shelton is that the Usos constantly refer to Shelton as Jason Jordan.

See, that's actually my least favorite part(and I'm pretty sure it was BIG E that said it). Cause yeah, it's savage but like, it's just lampshading that the WWE replaced a black guy with a black guy and was like "this is fine"
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Post Post #1466  (isolation #285)  » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:53 am

In post 1333, Majiffy wrote:The one episode I watched of NXT was disappointing - the one they aired on TV last week.

The number of things I find wrong with that promotion probably nears double digits.


After actually watching that episode (bingeing to catch up for nxt philly) I'm not all the way surprised you disliked that episode, cause it wasn't very good. You didn't like sanity or Nikki cross though?

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In post 1450, T-Bone wrote:Aiden English did one tonight.

Montez Ford did a really nice one tonight.


I like Montez Ford a lot. I can't fucking stand Angelo Dawkins though.
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Post Post #1469  (isolation #286)  » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:03 am

Yeah, watching that episode and the one before it with dunne vs bate 37.

But Adam Cole is progressing beautiful into a pg obnoxious bad guy
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Post Post #1471  (isolation #287)  » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:34 am

Honestly, his first two tries at nxt tv killed him for me and if Montez wasn't so genuine and great it'd have killed Street Prophets as a whole(I do like his 360 corner splash thing he does tho). First gimmick where he was basically dressed in a "black guy" costume from party city and the second where he was basically "steal a bunch of NBA guy celebrations and wear two headbands". After the last few years of black people really taking a step past getting stuck with racial caricatures all his gimmicks have felt like a giant step backwards. I'm actually somewhat happy with how black people are currently being portrayed on wwe lately - the "Sasha's rachet" chant from a year or so ago not withstanding, but at least that was shitty fans and not brand sponsored, a la Cryme Tyme
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Post Post #1474  (isolation #288)  » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:41 pm

In post 1473, Majiffy wrote:Promos on raw this week were enjoyable.

Confused why the girl who interviewed Samoa Joe looked straight up perturbed and not-wanting-to-be-there. Maybe because it was new year's day? Idk.

I haven't watched it yet but I'm assuming they did the same thing they did last week and had Renee Young interview him while he shit talked dean ambrose? She'd be perturbed because they are married irl and it was talked about on raw so it's also kayfabe.
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Post Post #1477  (isolation #289)  » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:03 pm

My avatar is way too good and I'm not allowed to due avatar bets so it's a doble.
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Post Post #1479  (isolation #290)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:57 am

Am I the only one watching this?

If so i'll use spoiler tags in about 2 hours.
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Post Post #1481  (isolation #291)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:04 am

Booooooo
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Post Post #1483  (isolation #292)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:43 pm

My favorite part of every Kenny Omega match is when he starts to look like Tony Perkis from Heavyweights
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Post Post #1485  (isolation #293)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:01 pm

You don't know a girl with extensions in your life?
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Post Post #1489  (isolation #294)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:59 pm

I need to rewatch it to be honest.
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Post Post #1491  (isolation #295)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:36 pm

NO IDEA, People were all over it on social media
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Post Post #1492  (isolation #296)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:56 pm

In post 1488, Sudo_Nym wrote:Holy shit. No spoilers, but what do you think is the over/under on Meltzer's rating for the main event?


I think the over/under at 5 is fair, but I'll just say it didn't do it for me.

Spoiler: Okada/Naito
For people who are Japanese and/or watch a lot more NJPW than I do and have been watching it for years(I've seen roughly 10 NJPW shows ever), I'm sure there was alot for them to like and the story, but for someone who simply has only known who Naito is for 2 years and have only seen him wrestle singles matches a handful of times it just didn't pertain to me? Like I didn't get the callbacks to their last matches, I don't really get the stuff about him using the stardust press until after the fact and the Stardust Genius being his old gimmick(he still comes out to a song called Stardust though, it's great). So while I understand that there was a lot going on and appreciate that the wrestling was good, I felt the matches with stories that were more visceral/more present day were matches that I enjoyed more. I feel the Okada-Naito match was on par with the Aj-Cena trio(which isn't a slight) but the matches that were like "this is the greatness of wrestlekingdom" were in other matches. I thought the Never Openweight Championship, the Junior title, and the Us title matches were simply better/more enjoyable matches. And Young Bucks vs RPG 3k was also insanely good but a little apples/oranges cause tag team match, Okada/Naito was better than the IC match(decent) and Cody/Ibushi(very good) but I feel it was still the 4th best on the card and in middle compared to all the solo matches last night.
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Post Post #1496  (isolation #297)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:28 pm

Right, I said that in less words/detail. But every match I've seen of this guy has been a story of his life, which is cool but if I have to consult Google to get it, it's just not going to be as good for as for people that already get it. Cause the tana match was revenge but also it had the "Naito was his young boy" thing.

And I don't mean that it has to be a burner. White/Tana wasn't a burner, but that's a story that's right now. Like if you ONLY watch WK every year, you were there for that story, tana ace Jay white young boy. Goto vs Suzuki was about bushido and how Suzuki has been destroying Goto for the last 6+ months. Like that's right now. Naito's encompassed the past 5 years of his life, but I've only known Naito for 2, tops. So while everyone can appreciate stuff like how fire that last 3 minutes of the match was and the tranquilo roll in the beginning, not everyone is gonna be all in for a story that encompasses 5 years of wrestling they didn't watch.
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Post Post #1501  (isolation #298)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:54 pm

In post 1498, kuribo wrote:I wouldn't worry about Naito's momentum, especially after what they set up today at New Year Dashthough I do think the time was right for him to finally go over Okada for the belt


I'm not worried about Naito, but Why did they have Tana and Jay White if this was the plan?
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Post Post #1503  (isolation #299)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:03 am

Right, but they didn't do anything for him in the slot, then they just like...erased it? It's very strange to me. Match was still decent.
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Post Post #1514  (isolation #300)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:57 am

They're gonna do horsewomen vs horsewomen eventually so who cares if she picks up the rumble to kick start it? Better than Asuka winning it if we're being honest. I was hoping to see more mid card asuka before she got her run.
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Post Post #1517  (isolation #301)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:10 am

In post 1515, Sudo_Nym wrote:We all know the dark truth: Stephanie McMahon is going to enter the women's rumble at 30 and win the whole thing.


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Post Post #1518  (isolation #302)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:11 am

In post 1515, Sudo_Nym wrote:We all know the dark truth: Stephanie McMahon is going to enter the women's rumble at 30 and win the whole thing.


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Post Post #1529  (isolation #303)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:54 pm

In post 1525, hiplop wrote:i hope that doesnt mean we'll see Asuka lose a bunch of weird gimmick matches

"shes never been pinned or submitted....only.....not grabbed the sushi on the pole"


This is the most 2004 thing I've ever heard, and low key....I'd totally watch the fuck out of that match.
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Post Post #1531  (isolation #304)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:04 pm

Also, my fantasy booking for Asuka is still in tact after Monday. Have Nia and Asuka do a program, keep her away from the belt. Have her do a dark match at Rumble. But just keep her bashing through people. Let her pick up the title at summerslam. I'm gunning for her and Rousey at next mania, not this one.

Her in the Rumble is fine. A bunch of one time nxt girls are gonna be rolling through. Just have her get cheesed. Like give her a throw some girls over moment, maybe even a cm punk style ring clear mic shout nobody ready for asuka. Then ring fulls up a little she gets apron'ed then Nikki Cross bust out of the time keepers area rips her off the apron with something brutal. Then you have a program for asuka you can microwave whenever.
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Post Post #1539  (isolation #305)  » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:25 pm

@Sudo. Meltzer gave Naito/Okada a 4.5. I'm kinda surprised. Also gave AlphaOmega a 5. Which I'm also kinda surprised about.
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Post Post #1542  (isolation #306)  » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:49 pm

In post 1541, T-Bone wrote:OH MY GOD

Dash and Dawson just dropped the grand daddy of all curse words on RAW!

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Post Post #1543  (isolation #307)  » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:51 pm

In post 1540, Sudo_Nym wrote:I'm surprised that he gave Naito/Okada a 4.5, but it really was more of a story match than anything, so I guess that took it down. Jericho/Omega I can see being a 5 star, since that was a really good match, though Jericho did blow a couple spots and the pace slowed near the end.

Also, does Kenny's speech at New Years Dash mean we're getting a face turn for the Bullet Club? Or are we finally getting the Kenny/Cody split? Kenny/Cody splitting would make the most sense, but they're doing the All In show together, so I don't know what to think!


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Post Post #1545  (isolation #308)  » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:06 pm

In post 1544, T-Bone wrote:
In post 1542, Panzerjager wrote:
In post 1541, T-Bone wrote:OH MY GOD

Dash and Dawson just dropped the grand daddy of all curse words on RAW!

What they say? I'm westcoast

Guess you'll have to watch and find out!


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Post Post #1560  (isolation #309)  » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:07 am

I swear KO was saying "professional wrestler" when he debuted. Also pretty sure when they talk guys with amateur wrestling backgrounds it's kind of implied that they are no longer amateur wrestler but professional wrestlers.

Anyway, only thing that matters from that promo is they volunteered to take the finisher buffet on Monday.
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Post Post #1564  (isolation #310)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:57 am

Why does it matter to you what we are entertained by?
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Post Post #1567  (isolation #311)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:27 am

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Post Post #1568  (isolation #312)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:28 am

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Post Post #1570  (isolation #313)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:39 am

What makes you think Roman is "constantly being linked to steroids"?

Strowman is probably not main eventing mania. I don't want to speculate on anything before Monday tho.
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Post Post #1572  (isolation #314)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:13 am

That's what we call a non-story. No proof that Reigns bought from the guy and he hasn't violated wellness since June 2016 - for Adderal, which isn't an anabolic steroid but an amphetamine - and has been tested 11 times in the 18 months since then and has been clean each time. I'm not going to take the word of a dude who has admitted to just trying to clear his name when the names seem pretty random(10 million dollar steroid op, names 2 actors and a sports entertainer but 0 sports athletes) and Reigns has 18 months of being clean under random testing to his name. And I repeat, Reigns has never been linked to steroids prior to being named by a criminal trying to catch a deal.
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Post Post #1573  (isolation #315)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:15 am

Also, big fan of you adding a second link with less information on the thing it's reporting on than your initial link. You should probably read articles before you post them.
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Post Post #1574  (isolation #316)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:19 am

And again, I ask, what about this situation makes you think he's "linked to steroids"? Just the fact he was named and has an unrelated wellness policy violation? Or do you have an actual reason to believe Rodriguez?
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Post Post #1576  (isolation #317)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:37 am

This situation is exactly why they have the wellness policy in place and have been sticking to it (evidenced by several suspension to star performers, including Roman), so when some steroid goon names an employee they can be like nah, he has 11 clean test on record since an unrelated violation. So unless he pees hot in short order or something real comes up, I think McMahon is giving this little credence because it's an unfounded allegation. I'm sure if this is real, we'll know shortly especially given how the last Florida based steroid scandal went.
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Post Post #1578  (isolation #318)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:50 am

"The current media culture" = people who don't read the articles they link, like you.

If nothing concrete comes out, I'd expect 0 change in plan.
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Post Post #1580  (isolation #319)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:59 am

What is your point? People that don't read and/or want a reason to hate Roman or the WWE aren't going to care if it's true or not? Sure, I believe you. But those people already hate Roman and The E and have done so for years. They already had their reason. I don't think anyone new is going to be convinced by this if they actually read that Forbes article you linked. It's a non-story. Don't expect a change of plan unless we get something concrete.
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Post Post #1582  (isolation #320)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:07 am

Only when it's in line with their own pre-existing biases. Hence, Image
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Post Post #1584  (isolation #321)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:25 am

Only if Elias convinces Miz to also start wearing 4 different floral patterns and he turns from Hollywood A-lister to art film actor and forms a weird indie/stuck up artist stable with Elias and Aiden English.
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Post Post #1587  (isolation #322)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:46 am

Miz is an actor, not a musician.
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Post Post #1591  (isolation #323)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:38 pm

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Post Post #1593  (isolation #324)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:39 pm

The expendables is totes real.
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Post Post #1595  (isolation #325)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:43 pm

Ok...go find the mma thread.
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Post Post #1599  (isolation #326)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:46 pm

In post 1596, Burgerking wrote:theres a difference between an action movie and grown men fighting in underwear with hundreds of people watching them in the audience



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Post Post #1601  (isolation #327)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:47 pm

In post 1598, Burgerking wrote:those wrestlers are dead bc they're batshit crazy steroid addicts


TIL only wrestlers do steroids
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Post Post #1604  (isolation #328)  » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:49 pm

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Post Post #1629  (isolation #329)  » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:01 pm

I liked the apa skits.
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Post Post #1635  (isolation #330)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:43 am

In post 1632, Nexus wrote:Enzo's been fired for *allegedly raping a woman after she was given drugs and booze to essentially render her unconscious.

What a piece of shit *allegedly



I did some independent research on this, and it's looking A LOT like Enzo is a scum bag but didn't rape anyone.
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Post Post #1639  (isolation #331)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:50 pm

Bunch of tweets from her saying she "fucked" and "is laying in bed next to" a famous wrestler.

From the stuff I've seen, which is basically texts messeges and dms to her friends and people involved, she's a very young(~18-19) and vulnerable girl who has been in and out of rehab facilities and on probation for drugs and stuff. For him to be in the situation where he's partying with people that young and many of the that were involved with the situation seem to be doing sex work for drug money almost guarantees that the dude is a scumbag, but it looks very unlikely from the girls text messages t hat it's more than him just being a bad dude.
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Post Post #1642  (isolation #332)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:31 pm

The Elgin situation is disgusting and true tho.
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Post Post #1645  (isolation #333)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:07 pm

In post 1643, Majiffy wrote:Idk who this Elgin person is and can't find any information.


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Post Post #1647  (isolation #334)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:23 pm

For sure, I'm not saying he shouldn't have been fired. I'm not saying I'm happy that the situation looks like what it looks like, cause I think people are SUPER looking for a high profile false accusation as a boon against all the #MeToo stuff. A lot of the response to the Aziz stuff has felt a lot like this. I'm just letting y'all know what I saw and that it looks like not rape.
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Post Post #1649  (isolation #335)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:13 am

Really not digging Shayna basically being Samoa Jill.
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Post Post #1657  (isolation #336)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:05 pm

I don't think i'd call Shayna and Joe's chokes similar as much as I'd call it the exact same move.

I wouldn't count on Rousey being a face.
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Post Post #1660  (isolation #337)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:23 pm

In post 1659, T-Bone wrote:The WWE girls will be the faces, and the MMA horsewomen will be heels, because they are the outsiders.
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Post Post #1662  (isolation #338)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:56 pm

She was very very NOT a face during the MYC.

She was a face at WM31 but she was also a gimmick and that storyline is not gonna be the one she plays up.
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Post Post #1670  (isolation #339)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:35 pm

I'll shitpost about everything. Mixed match challenge is weirdly p decent
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Post Post #1672  (isolation #340)  » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:30 am

Also miz is the best sports entertainer in the world.
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Post Post #1674  (isolation #341)  » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:35 am

Rousey, despite what I would like, is probably not gonna do anything with asuka
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Post Post #1677  (isolation #342)  » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:38 pm

I heard rumors of secret training for rousey. Possibly at kendrick's place
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Post Post #1679  (isolation #343)  » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:19 pm

idk..why even watch wrestlingWWE if you can't even be bothered to be excited for the royal rumble?
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Post Post #1684  (isolation #344)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:23 am

Too bad that match was bad. Kassius Ohno stinko.

Were y'all chanting Goldberg at shayna?
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Post Post #1687  (isolation #345)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:40 am

must of been my imagination.

it was mediocre. didn't think it was bad. The pacing got weird

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Post Post #1691  (isolation #346)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:37 am

died in the ring, poor guy

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Post Post #1694  (isolation #347)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:59 pm

I really dislike kyle oreilly, tbh
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Post Post #1696  (isolation #348)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:42 pm

i really dislike the mma bullshit tho. And his is especially grating to watch. For me.
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Post Post #1698  (isolation #349)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:45 pm

I think as an entertainer he's fine. I just don't like his wrestling.

But he has time to sell me on him, for sure. I used to not be a big fan of Black either but he's turning me , slowly but surely.
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Post Post #1701  (isolation #350)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:55 pm

It was very good. I loved it. My sister didn't like that Candace looked heel.
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Post Post #1733  (isolation #351)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:44 am

I had a lot of problems with the women's rumble. Guess it just didn't do it for me.

Really curious as to why the people saying they thought it was really good liked it.
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Post Post #1734  (isolation #352)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:45 am

@faraday, Bayley definitely dead. And that's sad. At least we get the Bayleyboss feud
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Post Post #1735  (isolation #353)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:29 am

Male rumbles this decade imo: 18>10>17>16 = 14 > 13 >>> 12 >> 11>>>>>>>15
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Post Post #1739  (isolation #354)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:15 am

The guy rumble was really really good.

I liked Bella on Bella violence
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Post Post #1747  (isolation #355)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:14 pm

I'm confirmed going to Strong Style EVOLVED
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Post Post #1752  (isolation #356)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:05 pm

not as much
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Post Post #1757  (isolation #357)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:08 pm

No more Kofi spots plz. It's finished
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Post Post #1762  (isolation #358)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:34 pm

In post 1759, hiplop wrote:
In post 1757, Panzerjager wrote:No more Kofi spots plz. It's finished

Go home



No, like...it's over. It's reached it's logical conclusion.
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Post Post #1764  (isolation #359)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:09 pm

Unless it looks like mouse trap, no thanks.
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Post Post #1770  (isolation #360)  » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:49 am

I love that Graves hates Sasha Banks.
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Post Post #1776  (isolation #361)  » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:06 pm

Already seen it. Not really that excited for the worse sequel.
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Post Post #1777  (isolation #362)  » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:07 pm

And it's not a njpw re-run is gonna stop the revolt from happening during Lesnar Reigns
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Post Post #1789  (isolation #363)  » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:47 am

In post 1787, Majiffy wrote:Also does anyone know if that Banks crash through the ropes to the floor was the spot or a botch? That shit looked like it hurt; if it was a spot, that was a great sell.


Botch. She botches a lot man.
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Post Post #1791  (isolation #364)  » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:26 am

It's so weird man, cause I feel like she can be the next big crossover star but also like...feel she needs to either shave out some of the moves that she screws up a lot or just needs to like...learn how to do them
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Post Post #1794  (isolation #365)  » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:52 pm

Bullet Club is Fine, guys.
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Post Post #1796  (isolation #366)  » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:36 pm

did you just pull these names and matches out of a hat?
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Post Post #1797  (isolation #367)  » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:37 pm

Also, I'm glad you learned how to spell "Asuka" finally, but it's "Itami" not "Atami"
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Post Post #1802  (isolation #368)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:33 am

The Ronda and Stephanie hand shake seemed like a confirmation that the rock/rousey thing is dead. Like...I think that's the ONE thing that shorty post match "Ronda drew 31" thing did was say, "I'm fighting someone in this ring". Wouldn't be surprised with a hyperquick call up of shayna either for horsewomen.
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Post Post #1803  (isolation #369)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:57 am

Okay...I'm gonna see if I can make better educated guesses than twoinamillion.

Brock vs Roman
Aj vs Shinsuke
Ronda vs Charlotte
Asuka vs Alexa
Usos vs bludgeon brothers vs new day vs the young bucks for the superkick championships.
Rusev vs Bobby Roode vs Cody Rhodes vs Jinder Mahal vs Baron Corbin for us title in a ladder match
Jericho vs Naito
Braun vs H
Daniel Bryan vs Shane
The Bar vs AoP(if JJ real injured)
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Post Post #1806  (isolation #370)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:12 am

Yeah, I got inside sources. Kenny Omega gonna win the Andre the giant. Heard it here first.
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Post Post #1809  (isolation #371)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:19 pm

So...I got my Roman Reigns shirt to wear to Strong Style Evolved
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Post Post #1818  (isolation #372)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:32 pm

Styles/Nakamura isn't the hypest match on the card. Only the IWC cares about that match. Most casual fans don't give a shit about that match.
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Post Post #1820  (isolation #373)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:22 pm

I can only go from what I've heard talking to people who are just casual WWE fans and the consensus seemed to be two guys from jspan, who cares.

AJ does sell a ton of gloves tho, I agree.
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Post Post #1824  (isolation #374)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:18 pm

Speaking of that, am I the only one that was shocked when Asuka cut like...a full Japanese promo next to Stephanie on Raw?
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Post Post #1825  (isolation #375)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:19 pm

Also think the right answer is Ronda is closing the show.
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Post Post #1834  (isolation #376)  » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:52 am

Oh, now I know why the last time I had sex there was a dude in stripes watching.
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Post Post #1837  (isolation #377)  » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:41 am

THE YET-TAY
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Post Post #1839  (isolation #378)  » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:27 pm

http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/5a84c4 ... e-song.php

this is the funniest thing i've ever done.
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Post Post #1850  (isolation #379)  » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:42 pm

I wish they cut him faster after that story
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Post Post #1852  (isolation #380)  » Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:31 pm

205 live is a dead show, no matter how much you like it.
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Post Post #1854  (isolation #381)  » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:25 pm

That's an unfortunate truth.
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Post Post #1866  (isolation #382)  » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:36 am

i didn't like ec at all.

i agree its tough to make a huge guy a baby face, but i also think the fans have changed to where being a baby face isnt really being a baby face
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Post Post #1871  (isolation #383)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:29 am

In post 1868, Majiffy wrote:It's not too tough; Kane and 'Taker have both had face runs, Big Show has been face probably longer than he's been heel at this point.

But I think Strowman has a completely different personality and character that I think he'd need a whole makeover to be a face, unless an even bigger and badder thing comes along.

Then again, maybe Bludgeon Brothers could be that bigger and badder thing. And the draft is coming up. But I don't see Smackdown releasing a top-tier tag team they just started to build, and I don't see Raw losing one of their top 3 draws. So, probably not.


Okay, but first time Show got over as a face the big boss man tied Show's dad's casket to the back a pick up truck and dragged it around the woods, and kane/taker stuff normally involved attempted murder: i.e being burned or buried alive. Like, my point is you gotta give a BIG reason to justify BIG destruction, but you also can't make the reason to big or the crowd goes the other way and there's no payoff big enough so it's a tricky situation. But as a side note, I think telling dumb country jokes, eating cake, flipping ambulances and especially beating up Roman Reigns might actually make you a face in 2018. So who the fuck knows.

Mixed Match Challenge is on WWE network like 2 days late and it's awesome so you should watch it and Braun is definitely expanding character through that outlet.


Also, Hammer Bros are being built for a reason that isn't Braun. I think they are being built for War Machine.
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Post Post #1872  (isolation #384)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:48 am

On Reigns: I want to start with that I like Roman and I think he's a damn good pro wrestler. Also he's not getting xpac go away heat, and a lot of times he earns cheers by the end of the match. The boos are always way louder when he arrives than when he leaves, but here we are. We're about a 3rd of the way through the 4th year of the Roman Reigns reclamation project. He's on his 4th main event in a row and what are the most memorable moments of his story the last 4 years? 1) Seth Rollins cashing in at mania, 2) a silent post mania promo where his job was to get boo'd out of the building for like 7 straight minutes, and 3) Braun strowman saving wrestling post-Jericho by killing Reigns for a whole segment while the crowd screamed "you deserve it" and then flipping a fucking ambulance. His stories have mostly sucked(everything without strowman/the shield) or been completely tone deaf(remember that time he ruined Rusev and Lana's wedding by pushing Lana in cake because haha you guys are foreign?), and it's because we're at a Mexican stand off with a billionaire. The Never Roman guys are always gonna boo him at every major event and Vince is always going to give him the big spot and the whole product suffers for it. When the entire product is a vehicle to get a guy to be the most over guy, everyone else is merely cannon fodder.
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Post Post #1873  (isolation #385)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:10 am

On Mania: I'm not excited for anything that is brewing and to me Elimination Chamber made the last two major ppvs worse retroactively. Ronda comes out at 31, steals the girls moment, proclaims to be going to mania...for an exhibition match? Really? Not only do I not want to see baby face Rousey, I don't really care about either her proposed tag partners. I just don't care. I don't care about a 3 year old story that should of been paid off twice and hasn't been touched. It's not what I want for Ronda or H.

It also makes Survivor Series worse because we arent getting H vs Braun and that ppv already was trash. And now it was trash for nothing.

Roman vs Brock is boring. Roman getting boo'd every week trying to sell this match alone is gonna be fast forward material.

Miz in a million man ladder match is worse than he deserves but better than last year.

The new Japan repeat is yawn.

Asuka vs Alexa is gonna be fine but not get any time and I still feel it's too soon to start the 3rd act of her streak.

I very very much do not want Cena vs Taker despite apparently everyone else going crazy for it.

It's times like this where I just get frustrated with everything and I don't understand what anyone wants. It's a card almost entirely without story. The best talent is going to be relegated to multiman no body gets a story or a shine garbage, and they aren't giving us substance else where. They're giving ESPN a Rousey match where she beats up big names, they're giving neckbeards the storyless new Japan re-run to hopefully make them be okay with Roman, they'really giving the kids Roman in the main event and hoping everyone else buys in, and I just feel that people that are there to watch the story and good wtestling get shafted , because it's gonna be 7 hours straight without either of those things.

Meanwhile, the young bucks announced they're moving to heavyweight and wrestling the Golden Lovers in Long Beach. So idk man...maybe it's time to stop watch WWE entirely and finally breakout the yen for NJPW World and Stardom World.
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Post Post #1875  (isolation #386)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:47 am

Finn is probably gonna be in a multiman with miz and rollins. Or he's gonna do club vs miztourage. Both of which are fine but meh.

On the new Japan re-run.....I just hope KO wins at fastlane so we can get KO vs Nakamura instead.
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Post Post #1877  (isolation #387)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:55 am

It's due like a week before mania.
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Post Post #1879  (isolation #388)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:11 pm

Right, it's not ideal, but it's ok. And it's the best thing on the card
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Post Post #1884  (isolation #389)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:37 pm

In post 1880, TwoInAMillion wrote:WM is way more important than your kid, come on Miz.


not what i'm saying.


hiplop wrote:
In post 1882, T-Bone wrote:I can still see them hotshotting Braun to the main event a la DB.

Please


anything to not make it a worse version of last time.
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Post Post #1887  (isolation #390)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:01 am

Okay now I'm convinced you're just a bad troll.
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Post Post #1894  (isolation #391)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:06 pm

He'll be in America like a week before too, cause he's gonna be at Long beach
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Post Post #1895  (isolation #392)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:14 pm

My wrestlmania 34 predictions

1 Masahito Kakahara wins Andre the Giant Battle Royale
2 Asuka d Alexa Bliss for Raw women's title
3 The Young Bucks d Roppongi 3K for Smackdown Tag titles
4 Rock and Ronda Rousey d Triple H and Stephanie McMahon
5 Kota Ibushi d Cody Rhodes (with Brandi Rhodes) universal title match
6 Los Ingobernables de Japon (Evil and Sanada) d Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr. and Lance Archer) for raw tag titles
7 Hirooki Goto d Minoru Suzuki hair vs hair
8 Charlotte d all the other smackdown girls (smackdown women's title)
9 Will Ospreay d Marty Scurll, Hiromu Takahashi and Kushida for cruiserweight title
10 Hiroshi Tanahashi d Jay White for IC Title
11 Kenny Omega d Chris Jericho for US Title in a No DQ match
12 Kazuchika Okada (c) (with Gedo) d Tetsuya Naito for WWE Title
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Post Post #1897  (isolation #393)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:28 pm

Lots of injuries and part timers not participating:)
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Post Post #1912  (isolation #394)  » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:17 pm

You're such a reddit smark man.
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Post Post #1923  (isolation #395)  » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:58 pm

Image


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Post Post #1927  (isolation #396)  » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:14 pm

I'll let you know when I finish raw. I'm west coast so I'm 3 hours behind you.
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Post Post #1928  (isolation #397)  » Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:14 pm

actually, just elaborate on what you want to know, i'll tell you.
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Post Post #1930  (isolation #398)  » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:27 pm

@Reck: If you're talkign about his segment with his family doing all the jokes, it's because this woken Matt gimmick is a re-run of Broken Matt Hardy in TNA from a year and half ago and they decided to put literally every single Broken Matt joke in 1 segment with no build up ot explanation.

As my sister put it: "yo, we've been waiting a year for this, we don't got time to catch y'all up if you didn't watch it"
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Post Post #1931  (isolation #399)  » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:16 am

Finished Ultimate Deletion. I really liked it
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