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Post Post #1146  (isolation #200)  » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:22 pm

Luckily, the IWC is basically irrelevant. They make up like 5% of all wrestling fans, yet are convinced that they're the vanguard of wrestling opinion. They don't buy the official merch, and they pay for the network regardless, so whatever.

I think the ASSHOLE chant died when most of the audience became younger. We didn't get an ASSHOLE chant, but we did get a YOU LOOK STUPID chant, and that's almost as good.
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Post Post #1159  (isolation #201)  » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:06 pm

I'm oddly convinced that Jinder could be something. He looks like a champion, he acts like a champion. If only he had better in-ring skills or could talk well, he'd be great.
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Post Post #1160  (isolation #202)  » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:14 pm

Bray and Roman are apparently out for TLC. Roman seems to have some medical issue, no word on Bray. Perhaps he's disappeared into the same hole Bo did. Or maybe he took a second look at the Sister Abigail stuff and pulled a Neville.
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Post Post #1166  (isolation #203)  » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:05 pm

It does kinda ruin the Shield reunion. As excited as I am to see Kurt back in the ring, he's now 48 and his neck isn't less fragile than it used to be. I hope it's just a one-time thing, since Kurt is supposedly worse than Daniel Bryan is; if they let Angle come back as a semi-regular, they may not be able to stop D-Bry from making a comeback as well.
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Post Post #1169  (isolation #204)  » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:17 pm

Well, he's kinda-sorta feuding with the Miz, so I guess that's the angle they're going for? It also does give them an out- if The Shield with Roman goes over, that makes Miz's team look super-weak for losing despite having an extra two guys, and it immediately kills Kane's return; but if Miz's team wins, then it really dampens the Shield's reunion. But if Roman isn't involved, you can have Miz's team win, but have it "not count" because Roman not being there means it wasn't really the Shield that lost. We'll see if that's the direction, I guess.

Of course, maybe years of trying to outguess the Carnival has gotten into my head and the answer is that Roman really just does have the mumps or whatever.
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Post Post #1170  (isolation #205)  » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:23 pm

In post 1168, KidAmn wrote:Somewhat of a tangent, but I was under the impression Bryan had been cleared by literally everyone but a very specific set of WWE doctors who tested for things that wouldn't ordinarily rule a wrestler out of working, though. That's certainly the story he told on the Edge & Christian podcast - he was cleared by a concussion specialist in Pheonix and another team at UCLA, then WWE insisted on using a team doing testing well beyond FDA recommendation that said he had slower reflexes than the MMA fighters that particular team tested, and recent testing (at the time of this podcast) he is nowhere near abnormal. The only reason Bryan isn't permitted to wrestle is the class-action lawsuit they're currently facing regarding concussion-related brain injuries, as far as I know.

If you want a big guy who can work (or even two to balance the odds) all they had to do was bring up Authors of Pain for one night only. Two big dudes who wear a bunch of military gear already, have shown they can put on excellent tag matches on NXT with multiple teams, Paul Ellering on the sidelines... you even get to give Roman another rub by saying the only way the Shield could replace him was to find two 300 pounders.


I think that is the story he told Meltzer, too- WWE doesn't want him getting into the ring because they're being super paranoid, so they're being stricter than Bryan's own doctors. The story I heard was that WWE doesn't want to risk the PR nightmare of having one of their performers paralyzed or killed, and Bryan's history of neck injuries has them nervous, regardless of what the doctors say. Same reason they kept Kurt out of the ring, even though he's supposedly clean now; even if he's technically good enough to work, he's still got that history that has them on edge, and they don't want to risk it. But they're letting Kurt back into the ring now, and Bryan's been making noise about going to NJPW if WWE doesn't let him wrestle, so who knows. For all I know, it's all just noise anyway.

And that's not a bad shout about the AOP or whatever coming up; Kurt is the GM, and Miz and Co did violate the "Everybody banned from ringside" clause in the cage match, so there is an existing excuse to add team members to the Shield's side at TLC. One night only call-ups aren't unheard of, either, since Killian Dain came up for an one-night appearance back at WrestleMania.
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Post Post #1173  (isolation #206)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:22 pm

I like Bray Wyatt, but I get the feeling that he's stopped giving a shit. Given what he's had to work with, I can't really blame him. And given that WWE seems loathe to push him given the whole Jojo thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he choose to just leave. That said, maybe not; WWE probably pays him pretty well even if he's doing shit. AJ and Balor are both excellent workers, and there's that whole "both former leaders of the Bullet Club" thing, but there's really no build to the whole thing beyond "Here's a high-quality match to replace an advertised match that won't happen". AJ isn't even on the same brand; he's obviously just being brought in for one night to placate the smarks.
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Post Post #1175  (isolation #207)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:45 pm

I think Wyatt is a fine in-ring performer, especially for a man of his size. He's not bad in the ring, so much as he's just completely overshadowed in that regard by others. But yeah, his strength has always been his character work, and the WWE has never really been sure what to do with his character. They wanted to make him like a new Undertaker, but at a time when they had the actual Undertaker around being a legend, so they never committed. They made him a cult leader, and he got really hot, but then never really committed to pushing him. Now they're in a position where they have Bray as a top guy, despite the fact that he almost never wins matches, and it's hard to sustain a main event push with a character you don't know how to use and is never allowed to go over. So what do you do with Bray? You just sort of throw him anywhere so he can get beat by whoever happens to need a win.

WWE could have done a lot more with Bray than they have, but I guess they never really understood how to use him. I wouldn't be surprised if Bray is now seeing the writing on the wall.
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Post Post #1178  (isolation #208)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:54 pm

Based on Hogan's last run, I don't think his has the ratings pull he used to have. Plus, I still don't think he's in a good place from the sponsor's point of view, and WWE is in a place where the bulk of their money is coming from sponsors and the USA network, rather than the actual audience. Plus, the nWo is overdone as a faction; you can get some nostalgia out of them by bringing back the originals, but Nash is old and can't bump, Hall has said he's never making a comeback, and Savage is dead. You could bring back some of the second wave guys, but even they aren't in great shape- Luger can't walk, Bagwell's doing porn, and Steiner burned his bridges. So really, you're just bringing back Hogan, and then putting somebody like Luke Harper in an nWo t-shirt? Doesn't seem great.
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Post Post #1182  (isolation #209)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:16 pm

In post 1179, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1172, Faraday wrote:
In post 1164, Majiffy wrote:Two good matches now turned pretty bland.

wyatt/balor would have been awful, since every wyatt match since mania has been the worst

aj/balor could be excellent, even if it's all pre-wwe hype

I was mostly just interested in seeing the full Sister Abigail reveal.

Balor kinda bores me - was kinda hoping he'd join the Hardys there for a bit but that didn't pan out. AJ bores me even more than Balor.



Honestly, probably fair. Balor and AJ are fantastic workers, and AJ might be the best in North America, but neither has much of a character beyond "this guy is a really good wrestler." If you're the kind of fan that's more into fun characters and interesting promos, neither one has a ton to offer. Even Demon Balor isn't really a character so much as an entrance.
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Post Post #1186  (isolation #210)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:06 pm

You're not wrong; Bray really has had his nuts cut off when they decided to give him magical powers but then have him lose matches anyway. He got whatever that weird power was that let him project maggots on the ring, but then lost to Randy anyway. He's so predictable, in that he's going to cut a promo about being an Eater of Worlds or whatever, and you know he's just going to lose anyway. They even booked his feud with Finn backwards- it should have been Finn vs. Bray first, Bray wins, then Finn becomes the Demon and wins, then Sister Abigail or whatever. Instead, they did the Demon first, Bray loses clean, demands a rematch against Finn, and then also loses, then does the Sister Abigail thing, and probably would have lost that match, too. He's just a whipping boy who gets a lot of promo time for whatever reason. Although I point out that Blackjack Mulligan and Mike Rotunda both worked a lot outside of WWE, so it's not as though they have some special rapport with the WWE, really. Cody Rhodes left WWE, Bray and Bo can go too, if they want. Whether they will, I don't know; like I said, WWE probably pays them both pretty well, and they get to be on TV every week doing something, even if they aren't where they want to be.

Bray is pretty good for his size; he probably could go to NJPW, but he isn't going to get over like he did in WWE. But if Prince Albert can go to New Japan and become a star, so can Bray. Being a second-string guy in the Bullet Club would probably be his upper limit, though.

And yeah, AJ is just a stand-in, because they need something special to replace their lost main event if they don't want people to complain. Fun fact: AJ was suppose to wrestle in a house show on the South American tour, but because he's pulling out to wrestle Finn, Triple H will be wrestling on the house show instead. So if you want to see HHH in a one-night return, get to Buenos Aires quickly.
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Post Post #1189  (isolation #211)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:27 pm

I think he would fit fine into the Bullet Club, but he fits there as "big dude with beard and tattoos and a unique look" rather than "Demonic Cult Leader". He probably doesn't become a big star, but he'd be solid. I don't claim that Husky Harris would ever be the IWGP world champion, but NJPW has a proven history of putting the tag titles on big American dudes who can work. Of course, then he has to deal with the fact that the Bullet Club already has two better tag teams than whichever one Bray winds up in. Hell, they could even keep him as a free agent and team him with Juice or something.
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Post Post #1190  (isolation #212)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:28 pm

Of course, all of that is predicated on him actually wanting to leave WWE, which we can't know if he actually does.
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Post Post #1192  (isolation #213)  » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:36 pm

Or he could start billing himself as "Windham Jackson, the Lost Young Buck".
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Post Post #1199  (isolation #214)  » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:20 pm

Man, Ric Flair wrestled the same match all the time, too, nobody gives him shit for it.
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Post Post #1203  (isolation #215)  » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:38 pm

He did used to have it cropped short. He grew it out while in Japan, I assume at Godo's request. Now it's just part of his ELITE character.
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Post Post #1212  (isolation #216)  » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:43 am

I enjoyed it. Though I'm surprised that Asuka went over; good on her for picking up the underdog victory. The main event was an entertaining car wreck, and we're almost certainly getting Kane/Strowman at the next PPV; probably a vehicle for Kane to retire like Big Show. I thought Finn/AJ was a good match, but it certainly wasn't the legendary match it was hyped to be. But I still thought it was quite good, especially for a match put together on short notice featuring one man who had to come up from Brazil on a red eye.

Surprised that they put the belt back on Enzo so quickly; I thought they could get more juice out of him playing the outraged heel. And the Alexander/Swann vs. Gallagher/Kendrick match was decent, but it seemed pointless- have Kendrick or Gallagher gotten a single victory in this feud?
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Post Post #1215  (isolation #217)  » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:29 am

/s

I know Asuka was going to win. Of course she was going to win. They put all that hype behind her, then threw her in with Emma. They could have screwed with the idea a bit by putting her against Alexa Bliss right away, but they clearly wanted to give Asuka an easy win to start. Same with Shinsuke, who got a match against Dolph, a.k.a. midcard guy who sells well. For that matter, Bobby Roode got Dolph first, as well.
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Post Post #1219  (isolation #218)  » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:56 am

The problem with that is that the Raw women's roster isn't especially deep, even compared to NXT. Once she's run through everybody, what do you do with her?
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Post Post #1228  (isolation #219)  » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:17 am

Hey! Let's get one thing straight- it was Marty Jannetty that floated to the top of the arena. The man has so few career highlights, let's let him keep what he's got.
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Post Post #1232  (isolation #220)  » Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:59 pm

OSW Review, yeah. Botchamania not so much.

As, word is that Nia Jax is holding out for more money. Apparently being cousins with the Rock gives you a bunch of pull backstage.
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Post Post #1235  (isolation #221)  » Wed Oct 25, 2017 2:59 pm

In post 1233, KidAmn wrote:
In post 1232, Sudo_Nym wrote:OSW Review, yeah. Botchamania not so much.

As, word is that Nia Jax is holding out for more money. Apparently being cousins with the Rock gives you a bunch of pull backstage.


Maybe if she could wrestle more than 1 match without botching and nearly injuring someone (at a minimum) she'd get a pay packet as big as her ego


Okay, but you're forgetting that she's the Rock's cousin, okay? That means she's automatically a big deal. Who cares whether she's any good or not?
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Post Post #1237  (isolation #222)  » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:04 pm

No, Jordan is related to Angle.
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Post Post #1254  (isolation #223)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:49 pm

Darren Young and Summer Rae make sense, though, since neither has done anything for months. Emma was doing well, though, so I don't know what's up with that.
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Post Post #1256  (isolation #224)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:32 pm

Fun fact: Darren Young's release means that there's only one member of the Nexus still wrestling in WWE.
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Post Post #1258  (isolation #225)  » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:44 pm

In post 1257, Panzerjager wrote:COUNTER FUN FACT: YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!

In post 1256, Sudo_Nym wrote:Fun fact: Darren Young's release means that there's only one member of the Nexus still wrestling in WWE.


COUNTER COUNTER FUN FACT: HUSKY HARRIS IS NOT ONE OF THE ORIGINAL 8 NEXUS MEMBERS!!!

The Nexus that debuted on the June 8, 2010 RAW was Barrett, Bryan, Slater, Gabriel, Young, Tarver, Otunga, and Sheffield. Harris didn't join until later, since he debuted on the second season of NXT and joined afterwards.
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Post Post #1270  (isolation #226)  » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:35 am

God, I guess I just have to get NJWorld now.
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Post Post #1272  (isolation #227)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:45 am

Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens were both sent home from the European tour. More mumps?
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Post Post #1275  (isolation #228)  » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:13 pm

So what I'm really hearing here is that nobody really knows what's happening, outside of maybe Vince, Sami, and Kevin themselvs.
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Post Post #1284  (isolation #229)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:37 pm

So WWE is letting Angle work house shows now. I wonder how much longer they can keep Bryan out of the ring if they're going to let Angle work regularly.
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Post Post #1288  (isolation #230)  » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:17 pm

Bryan's been pretty upfront that he wants to get back into the ring as a wrestler. If Angle's going back into wrestling, even as a part-timer, they're going to have a difficult time justifying keeping Bryan out; last I heard, Angle was supposed to be in rougher shape than Bryan. That said, I'm really surprised that they went with the idea of letting Angle wrestle at all.
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Post Post #1293  (isolation #231)  » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:56 pm

So Team Raw is 48, 48, 38, 36, and 34 years old, while Team Smackdown is 47, 40, 40, 37, and 37. Apropos of nothing Hogan and Piper were 43 and 42 when WWE mocked them as being "too old" to main event in 96.
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Post Post #1312  (isolation #232)  » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:45 pm

In post 1311, kuribo wrote:
In post 1309, Aristophanes wrote:Strohman on HHH holy shit



Strowman is awesome


Here's a pic I took of him at Raw a few weeks ago. He's huge up close.

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Or maybe he's huge all the time, and he only appears smaller because of perspective?
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Post Post #1325  (isolation #233)  » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:34 pm

So Rich Swann was arrested for battery and false imprisonment.
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Post Post #1345  (isolation #234)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:37 pm

Ziggler makes me sad. He's a dude who had all sorts of upside; he's a good wrestler, and he's a pretty good looking guy. But they never really got behind any serious push for him, even when he was the world champion, so instead his stock has just slowly been sliding away for years. Same thing with Kofi before New Day.
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Post Post #1367  (isolation #235)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:32 pm

In post 1351, kuribo wrote:
In post 1345, Sudo_Nym wrote:Ziggler makes me sad. He's a dude who had all sorts of upside; he's a good wrestler, and he's a pretty good looking guy. But they never really got behind any serious push for him, even when he was the world champion, so instead his stock has just slowly been sliding away for years. Same thing with Kofi before New Day.



Hard to take a guy seriously as world champion when his character is that he's a star but then he sells like he's been shot for guys half his size


Perfect did it; Shawn did it, too. To a lesser extent, Flair and Bret both did it. Ziggler's problem is that they never pushed him like a main eventer. Even when he was world champion, his character was that he's some random midcard goof that happened to win the belt, rather than a serious competitor. When you're defending the belt in the curtain jerk match so Cena can be in the main event, you're not going to get taken seriously.
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Post Post #1371  (isolation #236)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:54 pm

In post 1368, TwoInAMillion wrote:It's not WWE's fault that they never pushed him as a main eventer, he's not main eventer material. He gets a meh reaction from fans for the most part.


He's gotten a lot of big reactions, and there was a time when he was getting pops almost on a level with Cena. The fans developed a meh reaction to him when they realized that the WWE will never give him a solid push, not the other way around. As Panzer noted, Dolph is capable of getting good reactions even now, when he's given the chance, but WWE may have squandered him for too long for it to matter.
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Post Post #1372  (isolation #237)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:56 pm

What happened to Ziggler is basically what happened to Bayley: they were both getting big reactions; WWE wanted to bleed off those reactions to push other people they liked better; now their heat is squandered.
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Post Post #1374  (isolation #238)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:23 pm

You might think that, but Bayley was over like gangbusters with that gimmick in NXT and her first few main roster appearances; "I'm A Hugger" shirts sold out every show, and there was always a "Hugger Section" in the crowd. She was magic before they decided to chop her legs off to feed Bliss.
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Post Post #1381  (isolation #239)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:15 pm

In post 1376, kuribo wrote:
In post 1367, Sudo_Nym wrote:
In post 1351, kuribo wrote:
In post 1345, Sudo_Nym wrote:Ziggler makes me sad. He's a dude who had all sorts of upside; he's a good wrestler, and he's a pretty good looking guy. But they never really got behind any serious push for him, even when he was the world champion, so instead his stock has just slowly been sliding away for years. Same thing with Kofi before New Day.



Hard to take a guy seriously as world champion when his character is that he's a star but then he sells like he's been shot for guys half his size


Perfect did it; Shawn did it, too. To a lesser extent, Flair and Bret both did it. Ziggler's problem is that they never pushed him like a main eventer. Even when he was world champion, his character was that he's some random midcard goof that happened to win the belt, rather than a serious competitor. When you're defending the belt in the curtain jerk match so Cena can be in the main event, you're not going to get taken seriously.



Perfect was bumping for Hogan though in his prime. Everyone bumped for Hogan

And plus that's a bad example; Perfect never reached the top of the mountain either, just like Ziggler hasn't.


Perfect bumped for everybody; not just Hogan. And he never won the title, but in those days, title switches were a lot more rare. He was a top level performer for years. And everybody else on that list was a world champion, and a top level talent. If you want, you can throw Steve Austin on the list, too, as he was a pretty big bumper before his neck injury, too, and surely you aren't going to try and argue that Austin didn't reach the top of the mountain.


In post 1377, kuribo wrote:
In post 1374, Sudo_Nym wrote:You might think that, but Bayley was over like gangbusters with that gimmick in NXT and her first few main roster appearances; "I'm A Hugger" shirts sold out every show, and there was always a "Hugger Section" in the crowd. She was magic before they decided to chop her legs off to feed Bliss.



Also over in NXT: the Vaudevillains, the Ascension, Enzo/Cass, Jason Jordan, Nakamura

Some of it is misbooking (Nakamura) but some of it is that Indy style gimmicks still work in small venues like NXT and don't translate as well to weekly television.


All of those guys also didn't maintain the same gimmick after promotion. Every single one of them had their gimmick stripped down before their main roster debut, taking away all the complexity and therefore everything that made them interesting. In NXT, Bayley was a good-natured powerhouse who was tenacious in the ring. In WWE, she's a naive virgin who never kissed a boy, and doesn't have the guts to stand up to anybody. Should we be surprised that "Cute, nice girl who's also a badass" got over and "Weak little girl who can't compete with Alexa" didn't get over? The Ascension were badass LoD knockoffs who run people over, after promotion, they were generic brawlers who always lose and never get TV time. Do we need to examine why the first gimmick got over and the second gimmick didn't?

You can argue that NXT is a better showcase, sure- NXT's weekly show is only a week, so fewer performers appears on each show; they can give more time to Bayley when she appears because she won't appear again for a few weeks. But that's not Bayley's fault, it's the fault of the writers who can't figure out how to book performers on their show. Or it's the fault of corporate, who insist on a three hour show even though it's killing their heat.
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Post Post #1382  (isolation #240)  » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:16 pm

Actually, maybe you can argue that it's Bayley's fault, since she doesn't advocate for herself the same way stars of the past would- if she would stand up to creative the same way Austin did, she'd be better protected. Or maybe she'd be fired, since the WWE doesn't need to put up with talent talking back to them any more.
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Post Post #1385  (isolation #241)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:54 am

The Rock sold for everybody, but he also murdered people with chairs, so I think that one evens out.
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Post Post #1387  (isolation #242)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:40 am

Yeah, lots of people did hard chair shots. But even for the era, Rock's chair shots were brutal. And Rock did know better, since that fucker always got his hand up, even though you didn't have to back then.
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Post Post #1392  (isolation #243)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:06 pm

205 Live is a good show, I just think filming it after Smackdown was a bad idea. I also wonder how the cruiserweights got their own show, but the women didn't, since there's great female talent in desperate need of a showcase.
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Post Post #1397  (isolation #244)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:58 pm

That's the real problem. All the messaging for the cruiserweights and the women is "These people don't matter". They get one match per card, it's always presented as filler, and otherwise only appear in dark matches. For an example- the Riott Squad was supposed to be a big deal the last few week on TV, and where are they on the PPV? They're lumberjacks for a feud that should have ended two months ago. The clear message there is "These are theoretically featured talent, but all they're allowed to do is stand in the background because women don't deserve two matches on one card."

Historically, people have proven they'll care about cruiserweights and they'll care about women, but only if they're booked like they matter. Rey Mysterio was super over; so was Trish. People will care if you book them like people should care. But the WWE is currently booking the both groups like they're just filler meant to kill time so you can piss, rather than actually important talent. Hell, they even put a ban on what moves they're allowed to do so they don't outshine the talent that they actually care about.
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Post Post #1399  (isolation #245)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:47 pm

From what I've heard, and take the internet rumor mill for what it's worth, the cruiserweights are "strongly encouraged" not to show up the main event talent. Seth Rollins does the Phoenix Splash, which is supposed to be an incredible move, so none of the cruiserweights are supposed to do anything that'll make it look less spectacular by comparison. That's rumor, obviously, but it goes some way to explaining why guys like Austin Aries, Neville, and Rich Swann showed up on 205 Live doing only half the moves they used to do on the indies. I've not heard anything about the women, so much, but supposedly Charlotte is capable of a Shooting Star Press that she's never used on WWE programming.
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Post Post #1403  (isolation #246)  » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:03 pm

I wouldn't be surprised. She did that amazing corkscrew Asai moonsault, after all. She'd probably have a springboard move set if she was allowed.
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Post Post #1408  (isolation #247)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:08 am

It's a weird place we're in, where WWE is making more money by selling its programming than it's making off ads. Between giving Hulu a month of exclusivity and doing three hours every Raw, they're supposedly making bank, even as the three hours is leading to a ratings slide.
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Post Post #1413  (isolation #248)  » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:16 pm

She's just following in the Hart family tradition. And she cried after the match, so she's also following the Flair family tradition.
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Post Post #1421  (isolation #249)  » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:39 am

Hell, JR used to shout "That'll kill some brain cells!" on big chair shots, and apparently didn't consider that a big deal.
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Post Post #1435  (isolation #250)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 7:35 pm

Shibata vs. Okada got five stars from Big Dave, tho.
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Post Post #1437  (isolation #251)  » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:29 pm

Okada vs. Suzuki was good, but I don't think it holds up with the Shibata match. Best match of the year imho is the 60 minute Okada-Omega match, but this has actually been a really good year for wrestling overall. Bate vs. Dunne is almost certainly the best WWE match of the year, though I don't doubt they're going to try and push for Trips vs. Rollins at the Slammies.
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Post Post #1439  (isolation #252)  » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:00 am

How much of that is because Shibata broke his own skull on that headbutt, though?
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Post Post #1452  (isolation #253)  » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:13 am

Is Rusev over? Or is Rusev Day over? Aiden English was getting louder chants for his Rusev Day song than he was getting for himself at CoC.
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Post Post #1476  (isolation #254)  » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:57 pm

So who wants to avatar bet on the Okada/Naito match? Surely Naito is taking the belt, right?
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Post Post #1482  (isolation #255)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:25 am

I didn't stay up, but I'm gonna be watching it in a little bit.
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Post Post #1484  (isolation #256)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:43 pm

I cannot keep track of Tana's hair cuts.
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Post Post #1486  (isolation #257)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:02 pm

Just never seen them on a dude before.
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Post Post #1487  (isolation #258)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:07 pm

...the fuck is Omega wearing?
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Post Post #1488  (isolation #259)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:47 pm

Holy shit. No spoilers, but what do you think is the over/under on Meltzer's rating for the main event?
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Post Post #1490  (isolation #260)  » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:23 pm

Also, what's the deal with Okada's pants?
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Post Post #1493  (isolation #261)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:36 pm

I think the Naito/Okada match was definitely meant to be more of a story match than an outright burner the way Omega/Okada was.

Spoiler: Naito/Okada
I think this was meant to be the event where Naito ticks the last box off his "Stardust Genius" list. The last four years has basically been the story of Naito getting past the failure of the Stardust Genius gimmick, essentially by overcoming all the people and things that he believes responsible for the gimmick's failure. He got revenge on Tanahashi by beating him in the Intercontinental title match at WK11; him throwing the belt around and being hugely disrespectful to it was him getting revenge on Nakamura by proxy (since Nak was in WWE by then), as well on title itself for taking his "rightful" Wrestle Kingdom main event, the fans for voting to have the Intercontinental title match be the main event, and the company for allowing the fan vote in the first place. That's why he kept trying to do the Stardust Press in the match- he's trying to be the Stardust Genius one last time, so that he can have the main event match at the Dome with Okada that he should have had back at WK8. That's also why he's smiling after the match, even though he lost- because his goal was to get the Stardust Genius into the main event at the Dome, not necessarily to actually win the match. Now that's he's finally done it, he's finally crossed the last item of the list of things he needed to do to put the whole thing behind him. That's also why he lost the match; the Stardust Genius isn't good enough to beat Okada, and it also goes against Naito's philosophy of ditching the past.

If I had to guess where this is going, I think Omega is going to be the one that ultimately defeats Okada for the belt, to conclude his own story (and notice Omega was absolutely playing face against Jericho, presumably to set this up). Then we probably see Omega working a program with Ibushi, who's been getting a renewed push lately; meanwhile Naito gets the Dome main event again, either by beating Okada in the finals of the G1, or by beating Okada for the certificate afterwards, and we see Naito vs. either Omega or Ibushi as the main event of WK13, and Naito will finally take the title there. NJPW really loves it's long term storylines, so I think that would work, but this is all just me guessing, and may just be wishful thinking.
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Post Post #1494  (isolation #262)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:23 pm

Also, statistical fun facts: The G1 winner is now 0-6 at Wrestle Kingdom since the title shot as a reward was instituted in 2012. The IWGP Heavyweight title has not changed hands at Wrestle Kingdom since 2010.
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Post Post #1495  (isolation #263)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:50 pm

And on a less serious note, this was anticipated to be the first WK main event between two wrestlers wearing trunks. Maybe Okada switched to pants, just to prevent that from happening?
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Post Post #1497  (isolation #264)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:57 pm

I totally get that; I think that's gonna be a big reason why the match isn't going to be as fondly remembered as Omega/Okada, and it's also why Omega/Jericho was so heavily promoted as the draw for foreign fans, because they knew going in that a huge number of people who watch WK are just watching that one show- the 4+ year story of Naito's rise just isn't going to resonant as much as the story of Jericho trying to prove that he's still better than Omega. I praise NJPW for their long-term storytelling, but at the same time, I've only been a regular watcher of NJPW since WK11; I know Naito's story because I watched some youtube videos recapping it, not because I watched it from the beginning. And given that NJPW has been trying to expand into England and America this last year, I wonder how much of this long-term booking that references things that happened that outsiders wouldn't be aware of that we're going to see.

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I'm also worried that this might just kill Naito's momentum. It's a brilliant piece of storytelling to have him lose, sure, but at the same time, people there were rabid for him to win. The audience was chanting loudly for him, and they were coated in his merchandising. This might have been the perfect moment for him to be crowned the champion, and losing in the perfect moment may mean that he just can't recover and get back to that level again. Plus, he's already 35; given the workrate of NJPW singles matches, especially at the main event level, it's questionable how long he'll be able to perform to that level. Okada is only 30, and he's already phenomenal; he's got 10-15 years on top, and he can afford to lose the belt without much trouble. That being said, the announcers keep harping on how Okada is only three defenses short of breaking the record for most defenses of the title, so it seems likely that he's going to hold the belt until he's broken that record, so everything he does between now and Dominion is probably just filler.
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Post Post #1500  (isolation #265)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:44 pm

In post 1499, hiplop wrote:
In post 1497, Sudo_Nym wrote:it's also why Omega/Jericho was so heavily promoted as the draw for foreign fan

i think theres a more obvious reason


Well, Jericho is the biggest name to an American fan to be sure, but I'm also pretty sure that any American who cares about potentially watching Wrestle Kingdom in the first place probably knows about Okada, Naito, and Omega as well.
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Post Post #1502  (isolation #266)  » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:43 pm

I don't think they wanted Jay White and Tana to have a long term program; I think it was more that they wanted to debut Jay White in a high-profile slot, and Tana wasn't doing anything else.
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Post Post #1504  (isolation #267)  » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:54 pm

Having finally finished New Years Dash, it is kinda weird that they just pretend that Jay White didn't just lose in his debut. Although it is nice that White rejected Kenny's offer and joined Chaos instead; despite owning Bullet Club merch, I feel they have enough members and enough going on, while Chaos can really use the boost- outside of Ishii and Yano running at the titles, it feels like Chaos doesn't really do a ton. Which is especially weird, since Okada is technically the leader of Chaos, yet is usually treated as his own separate entity with Gedo rather than a part of a stable. I suppose they can use that as part of the story, though- Okada's quickly running through all the viable challengers, so maybe they want to push the idea of Chaos members like Ishii or White being allowed to challenge him in the future.
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Post Post #1508  (isolation #268)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:37 pm

I agree that blading can add to a match. But it is kinda barbaric to slice your own forehead with a razor, so I'm glad to see it used sparingly.

And yeah, Jericho seemed to lack a bit of smoothness on some of the bumps- the fall into the table being the biggest offender, but the lionsault counter also looked a little rough. I just assumed it's because he's almost 50 and the NJPW style is more intense than he's used to, since he did most of the match pretty well. I'd be interested to see how well he adapts, since it seems he'll be sticking around to work Naito.
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Post Post #1510  (isolation #269)  » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:55 pm

Jericho has apparently cleared a week of his tour schedule with Fozzy so he can work the Strong Style Evolved shows.
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Post Post #1515  (isolation #270)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:48 am

We all know the dark truth: Stephanie McMahon is going to enter the women's rumble at 30 and win the whole thing.
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Post Post #1520  (isolation #271)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:05 am

So the team of Asuka and the Miz for the MMC. What an odd pairing.
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Post Post #1522  (isolation #272)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:43 am

My best guess is that their matches will be Asuka obliterating the other women to get the win, while the Miz takes all the credit on the mic. That's the only scenario that makes sense to me, but at the same time, the obvious payoff would be a match between Asuka and the Miz after the tourney, which seems unlikely.
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Post Post #1524  (isolation #273)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:49 am

I do notice that they're very careful to say that Asuka has never been pinned or subbed, rather than being undefeated, since she has lost in multi-person matches, so I don't doubt they're willing to use that out.
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Post Post #1530  (isolation #274)  » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:56 pm

2004? Putting shit on a pole is pure Russo. Go back to the Attitude Era or the WCW Russo era, they've got plenty of stuff on pole matches. Hell, they even put a wrestler's mother on a pole once.
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Post Post #1533  (isolation #275)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:01 am

In post 1532, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 1520, Sudo_Nym wrote:So the team of Asuka and the Miz for the MMC. What an odd pairing.


Miz is going to act like a dick to her and get his ass kicked by her. I'm calling it now.


That seems like the most likely scenario; the problem is that the payoff to that would be Asuka vs. Miz, and it doesn't seem likely that WWE is going to do an intergender match.
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Post Post #1535  (isolation #276)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:24 pm

In post 1534, hasdgfas wrote:
In post 1533, Sudo_Nym wrote:
In post 1532, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 1520, Sudo_Nym wrote:So the team of Asuka and the Miz for the MMC. What an odd pairing.


Miz is going to act like a dick to her and get his ass kicked by her. I'm calling it now.


That seems like the most likely scenario; the problem is that the payoff to that would be Asuka vs. Miz, and it doesn't seem likely that WWE is going to do an intergender match.


They just did Ellsworth v Becky Lynch.


The difference is that WWE management doesn't really consider Ellsworth to be a man.
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Post Post #1536  (isolation #277)  » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:33 pm

Also, Shinsuke will be teaming with Natalya, which is another odd one.
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Post Post #1540  (isolation #278)  » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:21 pm

I'm surprised that he gave Naito/Okada a 4.5, but it really was more of a story match than anything, so I guess that took it down. Jericho/Omega I can see being a 5 star, since that was a really good match, though Jericho did blow a couple spots and the pace slowed near the end.

Also, does Kenny's speech at New Years Dash mean we're getting a face turn for the Bullet Club? Or are we finally getting the Kenny/Cody split? Kenny/Cody splitting would make the most sense, but they're doing the All In show together, so I don't know what to think!
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Post Post #1549  (isolation #279)  » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:38 pm

In post 1547, kuribo wrote:I renewed my Network subscription last night and watched some old Clashes.

Man I forgot how great Stan Hansen was.


Remember when he almost destroyed Vader's eye?
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Post Post #1553  (isolation #280)  » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:57 pm

Well, it is technically their gimmick to be NWA throwbacks, so maybe they get away with it because of that?
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Post Post #1556  (isolation #281)  » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:20 pm

In post 1554, T-Bone wrote:The joke is 'professional wrestler' is (or maybe was) a banned word in WWE since the PG era.


I know that. As is "hospital" and "belt". My point is that, back when the NWA was a real thing, the fact that NWA referred to them as "wrestlers" or "athletes", while Vince even then insisted on "performers" or "entertainers", which was actually a huge dividing line for the fanbase. Dash and Dawson are intended to be an NWA throwback team, and part of being NWA-homages is that they call themselves wrestlers. That said, far as I can tell, the whole obsession with not saying "wrestler" is a Vince-specific thing, so it may be sliding as Vince steps further back.
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Post Post #1558  (isolation #282)  » Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:00 pm

Part of it, sure, and part of it is the obsession with being seen as "legitimate entertainment" and not "carny freaks".
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Post Post #1562  (isolation #283)  » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:09 pm

"Patterson, get in here. I'm gonna call the Illinois commission and tell them that Kerry doesn't have a fucking foot."
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Post Post #1623  (isolation #284)  » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:40 pm

It's also got a capacity of like 600.
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Post Post #1625  (isolation #285)  » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:01 am

Sure, but they were only willing to pay that much because it was an exclusive event for a special occasion. They almost certainly won't get away with promoting there weekly. Which is kind of a shame, because the old Raws did look pretty neat from there.
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Post Post #1634  (isolation #286)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:32 am

I think Cena's plan with this retirement was to try to do what Rock did, so I'm not surprised he's staying in Hollywood that much. I am surprised that Cena and Rock haven't done anything together yet, though.
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Post Post #1637  (isolation #287)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:26 pm

In post 1635, Panzerjager wrote:
In post 1632, Nexus wrote:Enzo's been fired for *allegedly raping a woman after she was given drugs and booze to essentially render her unconscious.

What a piece of shit *allegedly



I did some independent research on this, and it's looking A LOT like Enzo is a scum bag but didn't rape anyone.


From what I've seen, the chick had done a lot of cocaine. Whether that absolves Enzo is another question. Apparently, somebody in WWE leaked to Big Dave that Enzo was getting fired either way for trying to hide the allegations from management.
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Post Post #1641  (isolation #288)  » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:27 pm

This particular incident is unexpectedly complex, but the sex abuse bubble in the world of pro wrestling was always going to pop, sooner or later. Elgin and Enzo got it first, but I doubt they're the last guys in the industry with this sort of baggage in the closet. And if even a third of the stories about Vince are true...
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Post Post #1650  (isolation #289)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:48 am

I think they were aiming for "Heel Asuka", but yeah. It seems like they're desperate to get a monster heel in the NXT women's division, and Nikki Cross has lost too many times to be that.
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Post Post #1653  (isolation #290)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:24 pm

Gotta fill time on the Network somehow
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Post Post #1655  (isolation #291)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:03 pm

I agree that Shayna's character needs to be a heel, since I don't know how you do the "MMA Bad Ass" gimmick in NXT as a babyface. Especially given that Shayna is noticeably more muscular than most of the competition, and dwarfs people like Sane. At the same time, though, they've been hinting pretty heavily that Rousey is coming in soon, and Rousey is almost certainly going to be a face, but she's also one of the MMA Horsewomen with Shayna, so I'm not sure how it works out.

What I do wish is that they'd given Shayna a move that didn't look so similar to Joe's choke- there's plenty of MMA submissions you could bring into wrestling that she easily could have had something more unique.
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Post Post #1661  (isolation #292)  » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:50 pm

I think that makes logical sense, sure. It doesn't change the fact that Rousey has been portrayed as a face every time she's appeared.
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Post Post #1671  (isolation #293)  » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:18 pm

I think the MMC is another thing like NXT or the UK special- if Vince doesn't care enough about a show to interfere and force the corporate line on the performers, they tend to perform way better. Compare the performances of guys like TGP on the Cruiserweight Classic versus 205 live. And hell, Michael Cole was actually really good on the UK Special, when he was allowed to just call the matches without a dozen people yelling in his ear to plug Tout or whatever.
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Post Post #1692  (isolation #294)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:23 pm

I AM SPORTS ENTERTAINED
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Post Post #1693  (isolation #295)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:12 pm

Spoiler: My opinions
1) AoP vs reDRagon: Very Good; AoP seem to be better every time I see them. Akam selling the knee for the whole match while still looking like a giant badass was great, and I thought the finish was a really good way to put over reDRagon while keeping AoP strong. Also, Kyle is just really good all around.

2) Ohno vs Dream: Okay; Ohno looked decent, but there were some botches that looked like miscommunication on his part. Dream also visibly struggled to get Ohno up for some spots. That said, Dream is a fucking superstar. The opening of the match, where the whole audience counted out the 30, proves that dude is over, and he looks like a future megastar waiting to happen. Shoutout to Blaster McMassive in his entrance.

3) Ember vs Shayna: Also okay; Ember feels like she's lost some heat by not getting the clean win on Asuka. I really like Shayna, and I like the finish as a way to keep Shayna strong but play on her inexperience, but I felt the armbar went way too long. Ember's arm was so hurt that she couldn't pin Shayna off the Eclipse, but she can survive the armbar for 120 hours? Also, if they're going to bring in MMA talent and play up their MMA skills as making them dangerous in the wrestling ring, they need to stop burying the submissions- if Shayna's supposed to be an MMA submission goddess, her armbar should be a "holy fuck tapout" when she gets it locked.

4) Cole vs Black: Fantastic; I was convinced when it ended that it'd be a contender for match of the year. Also, fuck Cole's spine, apparently.

5) Gargano vs Almas: Amazing; Gargano is incredible, and Almas looks like a star. Very well paced, lots of excitement, never felt like it dragged. Zelina got to look good, and Candice looked good in debut. I wanted Gargano to win, but I don't think he needs the belt to have a main event program with Ciampa, and Almas has proven to be so good that I want to see him have a longer reign. I think this is up there with Zayn/Neville or Zayn/Nakamura as the best match in NXT history.
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Post Post #1695  (isolation #296)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:38 pm

I think Kyle O'Reilly is really great at playing the smarmy shithead, and he's really good at selling his opponent's offense.
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Post Post #1697  (isolation #297)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:44 pm

I can understand that; pro wrestling has some problems when it tries to work in MMA style spots. Especially now that it was actual MMA fighters involved.
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Post Post #1704  (isolation #298)  » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:09 pm

I agree; Undertaker needs to stop. Every year we hear noise that he's in great shape, that his hip is fine, and every time, his performance is worse and worse. I get that he doesn't want to go out on that match with Roman from last year, but I don't think coming back for one more round with John Cena is going to improve things.

Daniel Bryan has been cleared by his doctors, though he still hasn't been cleared by the WWE's doctors. That said, they've been teasing a match with Shane, and they let Kurt wrestle when Kurt is probably in rougher shape overall, so it's not off the table.
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Post Post #1728  (isolation #299)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:06 am

The men's rumble was legit one of the best rumbles of the last ten years. Too bad it completely deflated the crowd; it felt like they didn't start making noise again until the women's rumble. The women's rumble was also really good; I don't think it was quite as good as the men's, but it had a lot of nice surprises and was very well booked. Although I am a little concerned that Becky and Bayley both went out relatively quickly for a rumble where both Bellas made the final three.
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Post Post #1737  (isolation #300)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:08 am

In post 1732, Faraday wrote:
In post 1728, Sudo_Nym wrote:The men's rumble was legit one of the best rumbles of the last ten years. Too bad it completely deflated the crowd; it felt like they didn't start making noise again until the women's rumble. The women's rumble was also really good; I don't think it was quite as good as the men's, but it had a lot of nice surprises and was very well booked. Although I am a little concerned that Becky and Bayley both went out relatively quickly for a rumble where both Bellas made the final three.

Becky was there a long time and got to eliminate Lita. Bayley was treated like a geek but she basically is now and got fuck all pop so atm she's dead in the water.

Sasha seemed to spend more time out of the ring than in it.


Becky was there a long time; I guess I would have just preferred that Becky and Sasha were the last two with Asuka instead of the Bellas. Bayley got no pop, which was really sad, since it wasn't that long ago that she was getting monster pops and I keep hoping they'll figure out what they could have with her, but they insist on squandering it. Sasha did spend a lot of time on the floor (and I think you can just spot her fixing her weave in one shot), but "people lying around waiting for their spot" is a common fixture of modern rumbles anyway.
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Post Post #1740  (isolation #301)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:38 am

Rey really did look incredible in the Rumble. Could bring him in for 205 live or something, because he's looking good. And he'd be a natural feud for Gulak.
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Post Post #1756  (isolation #302)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:06 pm

I'm hoping that Tye Dillinger always entering at 10 joins the Kofi spot as a Rumble gimmick going forward.
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Post Post #1766  (isolation #303)  » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:46 pm

Steve Austin claimed to have done the one leg trick in 96.

Seriously, though, I think the two feet rule was invented in 95 when Shawn accidentally touched the floor with one foot, so the announcers scrambled to say that it's okay because only one foot touched the floor.
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Post Post #1769  (isolation #304)  » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:39 am

It was cool to see Shane Helms, but he looked really chubby under that bodysuit.
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Post Post #1774  (isolation #305)  » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:51 pm

In post 1773, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 1766, Sudo_Nym wrote:Steve Austin claimed to have done the one leg trick in 96.

Seriously, though, I think the two feet rule was invented in 95 when Shawn accidentally touched the floor with one foot, so the announcers scrambled to say that it's okay because only one foot touched the floor.


Hmmm I thought the two feet rule had always existed but I just went back to the 94 rumble and all Fink says is over the top and onto the floor. The rules just make so much more sense that way honestly. The whole sideshow of going over but keeping your feet off the floor is just so ridiculous and dumb.


Right; before 95, it was over the top rope and onto the floor and you're gone- sometimes you'd see a guy land on the apron and come back in, but otherwise, a guy who went to the floor was done. But then Shawn hits the floor with one foot when he was booked to win, and they make up the "two feet have to touch" rule to compensate, and we've been stuck with it. Sometimes it's used well, but sometimes it's just ridiculous. Among other things, it makes skinning the cat less impressive, since it would be way more feasible just to tap down with a foot than to hold on with your arms.

If you want to get super technical, most wrestlers wear boots, and thus can never be eliminated because their feet don't actually touch the floor.
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Post Post #1778  (isolation #306)  » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:32 pm

The fact that Reigns was the last guy with Nakamura this year to make us extra excited about the win, just like he was the last guy with Orton last year proves that the WWE knows how people feel about Reigns, and they know how to use those feelings to put other people over, and they just don't care. They're going to keep coronating Reigns until it sticks. And I'm a guy who's on record as liking Reigns and buying his t-shirt.
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Post Post #1780  (isolation #307)  » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:40 pm

I don't think you can write Vince off like that, though- Brock and Braun are both booked by Vince, and they're both booked very well. I think it's more that Vince is getting older, and the business is moving away from his wheelhouse.
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Post Post #1782  (isolation #308)  » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:49 pm

Sarcasm is irrelevant before my fourth cup of coffee.
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Post Post #1804  (isolation #309)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:09 am

You think Cody and the Bucks are coming to Wrestlemania
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Post Post #1807  (isolation #310)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:03 pm

Big Dave says Wrestlemania this year is just going to be Roman vs. Brock. Vince is just going to keep the match going until the crowd cheers Roman properly.
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Post Post #1810  (isolation #311)  » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:30 pm

In post 1809, Panzerjager wrote:So...I got my Roman Reigns shirt to wear to Strong Style Evolved


Turnabout's fair play; it'll make up for all the LIJ shirts I saw when I went to Raw live.
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Post Post #1816  (isolation #312)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:42 pm

In post 1815, kuribo wrote:
In post 1807, Sudo_Nym wrote:Big Dave says Wrestlemania this year is just going to be Roman vs. Brock. Vince is just going to keep the match going until the crowd cheers Roman properly.



I'm torn between wanting to be drunk for the main event and wanting to be sober for Styles/Nakamura

I hope the Co-Chairs do another Mania parking lot show


I'm sad that their WrestleMania specials have become more sporadic since they completed the journey. They did live-tweet the Rumble, though, so we can probably look forward to at least that much.

Do you think Styles/Nakamura is closing the show, or Roman/Brock? They have to know how the Roman/Brock thing would go down among the crowd, and Styles/Nakamura is the hypest match on the card for everybody, so that would seem to be the wise choice. That said, Roman has now MEd three Wrestlemanias running, and there's no reason to believe they won't give him four; and they dealt with the Undertaker reaction by putting it on last so they could get off the air afterwards. Who knows?
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Post Post #1827  (isolation #313)  » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:32 pm

Ronda vs. Asuka main event confirmed
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Post Post #1831  (isolation #314)  » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:00 am

In post 1830, Majiffy wrote:But do you have to keep going WOOOOO during sex?


You don't?
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Post Post #1833  (isolation #315)  » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:31 am

In post 1832, Majiffy wrote:I don't even remember what sex is like, dude.


Think real hard, back to the last time you had sex. At any point, did you get whipped to the corner, flip over the turnbuckle, sprint to the adjacent turnbuckle, climb up, and get press-slammed to the canvas?
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Post Post #1859  (isolation #316)  » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:53 am

They're getting more impressive, though, you gotta give them that.
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Post Post #1874  (isolation #317)  » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:36 am

I agree that Rousey's booking doesn't look great. I like that they're not rushing her into a championship match, but I'm not eager to see another "Triple H Wrestlemania Spectacle" or Stephanie's return to the ring. I assume they want her in with a veteran because they don't know if she'll be ready to convert to the world of wrestling, but working Steph in a mixed tag doesn't seem like a great solution. Other gripes: Stephanie, of course, gets to slap Rousey and not get any comeuppance besides running from a glare. And Rousey is a terrible talker and a terrible actress.

I'm not sad to not be getting Braun vs. Trips, though, since Braun should be doing better anyway. It does make Survivor Series pointless, but it's better than the alternative. Based on EC, we could be getting Braun vs. Finn (Demon Finn?) and that could be fun.

Roman vs. Brock is kinda sad, since it's completely foregone, and "Roman gets the Wrestlemania Main Event again!" isn't going to change anybody's mind on him.

AJ vs. Shinsuke doesn't have much of a story beyond "Big Dave gave us 5 stars at Wrestle Kingdom, which is why WWE hired us in the first place", but it's still going to be a good match, and I think that's fine. Not everything needs to be super deep, and I think "These two guys are really good, they have a history, they're going to have a championship match" is a fine story for this specific match.

Cena vs. Taker shouldn't be happening, but Taker wants it, and he's a legend, so Vince is going to give it to him. Taker's been saying that he wants to work Cena in his retirement match since he lost the Streak to Brock, but has been talked into doing what Vince wants instead. Plus, I think he doesn't want the match with Roman where he blew most of his spots to be his last match. So he's going to get this, and it can't possibly be worse than the Roman match last year, but I don't imagine it'll be good.

On Roman: I think he really is over, despite the booing on his entrance. According to Big Dave, Roman sells more T-Shirts than anybody, and that's really the metric they use. Roman is hated by smarky neckbeards, but those smarky neckbeards still pay for live tickets and they still pay for the Network, and the only real blowback WWE ever gets from them is some bitching on the internet, which they (probably rightly) consider to be entirely inconsequential. Meanwhile, he's popular among kids, and the kids may not make the most noise in the crowd, but they do buy the most merch. So Roman is over in the way that WWE actually cares about, booing his entrance be damned.
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Post Post #1893  (isolation #318)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:37 pm

Rumor has it that Rey is negotiating a return for WrestleMania after his impressive showing at the Rumble. He's apparently asking for a match with Cena. It'd be better than Taker, at least.
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Post Post #1898  (isolation #319)  » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:41 pm

My WrestleMania prediction is that everybody but Brock and Rousey will be injured, so they're going to have an 8 hour long Iron Man match; Rousey will win with a score of 835 to 822, which Stephanie McMahon will immediately take credit for.
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Post Post #1910  (isolation #320)  » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:36 pm

WWE caves to pressure and takes Moolah's name off the battle royal. Pressure from the sponsors, of course, not the fans.
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Post Post #1919  (isolation #321)  » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:15 pm

In post 1917, Majiffy wrote:"Your promo's over! I don't wanna see you in here again until NEXT WEEK! you hear me?!"


"You completed all of your work on time, and in a competent manner? You get the fuck out of this office, and don't you dare come back until the start of your next shift!"
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Post Post #1949  (isolation #322)  » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:05 pm

Theoretically, the Universal and WWE belts are supposed to be the same, but given that the Universal belt is the one that Brock and soon Roman hold, and the WWE belt is the one they gave to Jinder Mahal, it certainly doesn't seem that way. The IC and US are supposed to be the same, as well, but Miz does a great job of elevating the title, and it has way more history anyway. The Cruiserweight title basically means nothing, especially since the Enzo thing destroyed whatever value it might have earned anyway. The tag belts theoretically are about the IC/US level, except that the WWE doesn't really have many tag teams to actually compete for it. I think the women's title are getting elevated, but they have the same problem of limited competitors to actually compete for them.

Rumor has it that Big Cass is going to be healthy again in time for Wrestlemania; your guess on whether Big Cass's or D-Bry's return is going to get more airtime on television. Rumor also has it that the brand split is getting ended after Wrestlemania, and we're going back to one set of titles and 12 PPVs a year. So either each one is going to be six hours long, or a bunch of people are going to get bumped off the PPV cards now.
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Post Post #1964  (isolation #323)  » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:49 am

Plus, there's no chance that Roman is turning heel while he's still the top merch mover. Vince will always put more stock in T-Shirt sales than in whether the crowd is cheering properly.
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Post Post #1967  (isolation #324)  » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:35 pm

Also, isn't "tough guy wants to be champion" essentially the gimmick of the entire New Japan roster?
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Post Post #1982  (isolation #325)  » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:59 pm

There's a grand total of two storylines on smackdown, and they're both Bryan vs. Shane.

I finally watched Strong Style Evolved, and holy shit guys, that was good. Kenny Omega might actually be invincible, though.
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Post Post #1984  (isolation #326)  » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:10 pm

Matt took some nasty bumps in that match, though. I mean, all four did, really, but that finishing sequence I wouldn't have been surprised to see Matt snap his neck or something.
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Post Post #1986  (isolation #327)  » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:44 pm

I assume it was on the stereo Asai Moonsaults; I didn't see what Ibushi did because the camera cut away to focus on Kenny when he started to slip. Commentary tried to sell it as being countered into some sort of DDT.
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Post Post #1996  (isolation #328)  » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:47 am

I'm picturing Braun wrestling all the matches by himself. Elias never tags in, he just plays his guitar at ringside.
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Post Post #2000  (isolation #329)  » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:56 pm

Bleacher Report? Bruh.
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Post Post #2025  (isolation #330)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:29 am

The Battle Royale is always such an iffy part of the show, though. Sometimes it's really fun and you get some good spots, sometimes it's just a timewaster to get everybody on the show.

I'm curious why everybody has such a hardon to see Undertaker get another match after the shitshow last year.
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Post Post #2032  (isolation #331)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:22 pm

I'm actually not as excited for Takeover as I have been. Gargano/Almas was so good that I don't think Almas/Black can match it.
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Post Post #2036  (isolation #332)  » Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:48 pm

Big Dave is reporting that Lesnar had a deal to return to UFC after Mania.
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Post Post #2042  (isolation #333)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:07 pm

Reports are saying Rusev is going to win the US title.
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Post Post #2045  (isolation #334)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:53 pm

It's pretty obvious that he's going to win, though. After all, Wrestlemania is on Rusev Day.
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Post Post #2048  (isolation #335)  » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:23 pm

Also, I think I got into a Twitter "argument" with Cody?
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Post Post #2053  (isolation #336)  » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:10 pm

Word is out that the Louisiana Athletic Commission is cancelling WrestleMania amid rumors of match-fixing.
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Post Post #2071  (isolation #337)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:22 pm

I don't get to watch Supercard live because of life reasons, but here's my predictions for NXT/WWE:

Spoiler: NXT
Ciampa beats Gargano; Gargano is probably moving up anyway, I'm guessing Ciampa is challenging whoever wins the ladder match.
Shayna Beats Moon; Moon is probably also moving up, and I think Shayna is being used to test the waters as an MMA-type female champion before Rousey's run.
Undisputed Era beats AoP and Dunne/Strong; AoP is probably debuting on the main roster to bolster the tag ranks so we don't get another year of New Day/Usos, and to make room for War Machine. Plus, Dunne and Strong both have other things they can be doing.
Dream wins the ladder match because he's been straight killing it.
Almas retains; I thought when he first won the belt that it would be transitional, but he's been awesome, and I hope they keep the belt on him for a while.


Spoiler: Mania
Bayley wins the women's battle royal; I'm predicting she gets a short heel run to try and get some heat back before going back to being a face.
The Andre battle royal will almost certainly not matter, so give to to Corbin again, I guess.
Cedric wins the cruiserweight belt, because he's the best thing on that show.
Braun defeats the Bar, maybe Ellsworth comes back to be the partner? Bar loses because Sheamus needs surgery anyway.
Bludgeon Bros beat Usos/New Day, because they've been getting the monster push and Luke Harper is great. Plus, they'd make the most fun matchup for a debuting AoP.
Rousey/Angel beat Authority, because Rousey isn't being debutted to lose immediately. I'm guessing this will move into a build for Rousey/Asuka down the line.
Undertaker beats Cena, so Cena has an excuse to ride off into the sunset while he makes movies, and Taker can't be continually brought back to be the job guy.
AJ beats Nakamura, because somebody's got to retain a title on this card. Plus, he's been the more impressive worker during the WWE tenure, and WWE has more invested in him. Plus, Nak won the first one that's been the build to this one, so AJ winning sets up a third match.
Roman beats Brock, because Brock is going to the UFC anyway.
Nia beats Bliss, because otherwise this whole storyline makes no sense.
Asuka beats Charlotte because Asuka's streak still has a lot of life in it, and Charlotte won't be hurt by a loss anyway.
Seth beats Balor/Miz, because Seth is the only Shield guy who's never won the IC. Miz gets some paternity leave, and I'm thinking Balor is going after Roman or AJ anyway, so he doesn't need this belt.
Rusev beats Orton/Roode/Jinder, because he's the only person in this match that has any heat.
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Post Post #2076  (isolation #338)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:30 pm

Unfortunate misunderstanding because heat means like three things in wrestling. I meant that he's the only one of the four that the audience cares about.

Also, holy shit, this ladder match.
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Post Post #2079  (isolation #339)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:50 pm

I think we just saw six murders.

Also, how the hell does anybody follow that?
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Post Post #2082  (isolation #340)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:13 pm

Holy fuck, Baszler is awesome.
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Post Post #2085  (isolation #341)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:42 pm

Swerved off the road
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Post Post #2088  (isolation #342)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:45 pm

And to think, we still have Gargano/Ciampa and Black/Almas still to come. There's a legit chance that the ladder match is only the third best match we see tonight.
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Post Post #2089  (isolation #343)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:54 pm

Also, Vega has her wrestling boots on for this one.
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Post Post #2091  (isolation #344)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:15 pm

Black doesn't have the chemistry with Almas that Gargano did, but I thought it was really good. I can only assume that Almas is getting called up so he can have five star matches on the main show.
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Post Post #2093  (isolation #345)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:27 pm

That "Fuck You Ciampa" chant. Number one heel confirmed.
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Post Post #2095  (isolation #346)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:47 pm

The thud of the concrete powerbomb followed by the "you deserve it" chant was amazing.
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Post Post #2097  (isolation #347)  » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:12 pm

Good luck trying to top that, Mania!
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Post Post #2115  (isolation #348)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 12:42 pm

I'd be happy to join in that convo, as well.
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Post Post #2119  (isolation #349)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:50 pm

In post 2118, Majiffy wrote:Is Rollins wearing color contacts? His eyes look ridiculous


Yeah, he had those White Walker lens in.
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Post Post #2122  (isolation #350)  » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:21 pm

Rousey was as good as her hype. Only knock on the whole match was that her gear didn't seem to fit correctly.
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Post Post #2135  (isolation #351)  » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:59 am

To be fair, NXT only does Takeovers every 3 months, so they can stock up on dream matches. Plus, they're less developmental and more a super-indy in flavor by this point, anyway, so they have a lot of the high-level talent that don't match Vince's style to put those matches on.

I really enjoyed WrestleMania, but it was just too long. The first few hours were great, but there was a definite fall-off, and it doesn't help that the fall-off in quality happened right at the time that the audience started running out of steam. By the time we finally got to Brock/Roman, the audience was too exhausted to care, even if that match had been good. AJ/Nak was also really disappointing, but that seems to be the trend when the story of a match is just "This will be a dream match!"
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Post Post #2136  (isolation #352)  » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:27 pm

Also, for the people who were talking about the Rock showing up: Does the Paige trailer count? They certainly played it a lot.
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Post Post #2152  (isolation #353)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:33 am

Vince isn't stupid. If Roman wasn't over, Vince wouldn't push him. If Zack Ryder were a genuine star, Vince wouldn't have released him. Zack was a guy who got himself over with a small but vocal section of the audience, and Roman was a guy who got heat with a small but vocal section of the audience. But Vince only really cares about the section of the audience that buys merch. Roman moves merch. D-Bry moves merch. Zack didn't move merch.

Vince has a long history of not giving a shit what smarks think about anything, and there's no reason to think that he's suddenly going to start.
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Post Post #2154  (isolation #354)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:05 am

Oh yeah, he was just out injured. My mistake. Still, though.
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Post Post #2157  (isolation #355)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:15 am

Miz does. Heels do tend to move less merch than faces do (hence John Cena, eternal babyface), but they tend to boost the sales of whoever they're feuding with, so it evens out in corporate's eyes.
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Post Post #2160  (isolation #356)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:43 am

First of all, Ryder never outsold Cena. Punk is the only person to have ever sold more merch than Cena, and he only did it for about a month and a half. At the height of Ryder's popularity, he was third on the list, behind Cena and Punk.

Second of all, Ryder was never going to be a big star. Have you ever seen the man wrestle? He's a worse Jinder in terms of skill.
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Post Post #2163  (isolation #357)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:44 pm

I do agree that the Eve story was ill-thought out; I don't think Ryder was ever main-event material, but he could have been a midcard lifer. They killed his heat to feed Cena, a man who was already the number one guy. Part of the Hogan-style "The number 1 babyface is always right, no matter what he does" booking that infected Cena for a few years.
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Post Post #2164  (isolation #358)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:49 pm

That said, long term, getting stuck in a tagteam with a guy like Mojo is probably where he would have leveled off once his novelty was gone. I mean, Ziggler is way better than Ryder, and he's stuck in midcard hell, too.
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Post Post #2167  (isolation #359)  » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:21 pm

He did get a world title run, but all I can remember from it was that he mostly defended it in opening matches. And he had that one angle where he "stole" Lana from Rusev, but that angle got aborted when Lana and Rusev got married in reality.

Ziggler said that he studied boxing matches to see people get knocked out for real so that he could sell better. The result is that he got so good at selling other people's offense that he got the role as the guy who gets beat up to make other people's offense look good.
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Post Post #2173  (isolation #360)  » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:11 pm

Gotta get that Hulu money.

Although the best stuff on the network is NXT and 205 Live anyway
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Post Post #2186  (isolation #361)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:45 pm

In post 2184, kuribo wrote:
In post 2171, Majiffy wrote:Especially since they're cutting down the number of PPV's per month to 1. Can't justify $10/mo. for what have been largely lackluster PPVs for the past 6 or so months, save for WM34



Just watch ECW from 95 - 98 and you'll get your moneys worth


Or start listening to the Lapsen Fan podcast, and use the network to follow along with the shows.
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Post Post #2192  (isolation #362)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:07 pm

I'm a little upset that NJWorld doesn't have a smart TV app, though
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Post Post #2199  (isolation #363)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:50 pm

In post 2195, kuribo wrote:
In post 2186, Sudo_Nym wrote:
In post 2184, kuribo wrote:
In post 2171, Majiffy wrote:Especially since they're cutting down the number of PPV's per month to 1. Can't justify $10/mo. for what have been largely lackluster PPVs for the past 6 or so months, save for WM34



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I was the first caller on their Wrestlemania 34 preshow


I remember. You spent the whole thing talking about meeting Mean Gene, and you barely even mentioned the Yeti!
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Post Post #2204  (isolation #364)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:08 pm

Point of order: Jinder, Drew, and Heath are all on Raw. Clearly, it's time to bring back 3MB.
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Post Post #2206  (isolation #365)  » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:50 pm

Rock is in your soul, not your muscles
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Post Post #2213  (isolation #366)  » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:13 pm

I want to go as well, assuming they ever open ticket sales and they don't all go before I find out.
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Post Post #2216  (isolation #367)  » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:36 pm

In post 2215, kuribo wrote:
In post 2213, Sudo_Nym wrote:I want to go as well, assuming they ever open ticket sales and they don't all go before I find out.


I have notifications setup for the All In Twitter account

Okada's gonna be there, it's gonna be awesome.

I'm planning to fly over August 31, then fly back September 2


They announced like the attached con, and the con is selling package deals for hotel rooms, but the event itself apparently isn't announcing the card or ticket info until May 13, which is frustrating.
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Post Post #2217  (isolation #368)  » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:13 am

So Big Dave is reporting that Hirooki Sumi was in the GRR because the Saudi Prince that paid for the show requested Yokozuna appear, and this was their workaround for the fact that he's dead.
One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.

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Post Post #2221  (isolation #369)  » Wed May 02, 2018 12:48 pm

No, it means that he's allowed to run in the main election for mayor as the GOP candidate. Although I think he's actually Libertarian.
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Post Post #2223  (isolation #370)  » Wed May 02, 2018 1:15 pm

If he wins, he should start making appearances in the Kane mask and bodysuit with the Mayor sash over it.
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Post Post #2235  (isolation #371)  » Fri May 04, 2018 12:45 am

Joe's appeal is that he supposedly wrestles the way you would if it were a real fight, and his promos tend to be much more authentic, like what a person would actually say if they were in that situation instead of a "pro wrestler" delivering lines. Which is something that either appeals to you or doesn't. Especially since, if you've watched an MMA fight, Joe's style is only marginally more realistic than the rest of the roster's.
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Post Post #2247  (isolation #372)  » Fri May 04, 2018 1:37 pm

Just reunite the Shield full time. There's already a rivalry between Seth and Finn, so you can do Shield Vs. Club for a year. Meanwhile, Braun can be the one to take the belt off Brock, then we'll see where we're at come next Mania.
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Post Post #2250  (isolation #373)  » Fri May 04, 2018 2:52 pm

Nash and Hall aren't doing anything, so you can make it a three-way feud with the Kliq, too!
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Post Post #2253  (isolation #374)  » Sat May 05, 2018 3:04 am

In post 2252, kuribo wrote:
In post 2250, Sudo_Nym wrote:Nash and Hall aren't doing anything, so you can make it a three-way feud with the Kliq, too!



Listen, I don't have to do anything, okay? You should pay me no matter what I'm not doing. Listen, whether I wrestle or I don't, I'm over. So I get paid.


Listen, mang, you should be the Crow. Or not, since you're going to rip a quad anyway.
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Post Post #2261  (isolation #375)  » Tue May 08, 2018 1:40 pm

Trying to get caught up since I haven't had time to watch lately. Just finished watching both days of Wrestling Dontaku, and that was really good. I still haven't watched Backlash yet, and I've tried to avoid spoilers, but even a cursory glance at wreddit and wrestling twitter suggests that it was a real shitshow. So now I'm not sure whether to even bother.
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Post Post #2267  (isolation #376)  » Tue May 08, 2018 4:43 pm

I'm definitely watching Dominion, not sure if I'm staying up to watch it live. Much as I love Omega, I'm kinda okay with Okada keeping the belt forever at this point. I'm also hoping to get my vacation time and my finances in order so I can go see All In in person.
One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.

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Post Post #2272  (isolation #377)  » Mon May 14, 2018 3:18 pm

I was hoping to get a ticket, but they went on sale and then sold out before I even woke up that day, so I'm out of luck, unless I want to pay $200 for a scalper.
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Post Post #2281  (isolation #378)  » Tue May 22, 2018 2:37 pm

In post 2278, kuribo wrote:Fortunately Fox just paid a billion dollars to air Smackdown, so now WWE has no financial reason whatsoever to listen to the fans or improve anything.

Come over to the Indy side of wrestling. We have flippy shit and guys getting dropped on their heads. We have Will Ospreay and Penta El Zero M. I mean we also have Sami Callihan, but Fuck that guy.


It doesn't matter. That feeling from your childhood is gone, and it's never coming back. Wrestling used to be better, and it never will be that way again. A lesson that every fan needs delivered painfully, long, hard, and deep up their ass.
One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.

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Post Post #2286  (isolation #379)  » Tue May 22, 2018 4:27 pm

In post 2282, T-Bone wrote:Wrestling is pretty good right now.

You only fondly remember the attitude era because you forgot all the bad stuff and stupid shit they did, and only remember the great stuff.

In 15 years the kids will look back at the Roman Reigns era as the greatest era in wrestling.


Seriously, give the Attitude Era Podcast. The Attitude Era philosophy, and the Vince Russo philosophy generally, was to have a billion things happen on every show. As should be unsurprising, when you throw that much shit at the wall, some of it sticks. Most of it was terrible, but we completely forget about it in favor of the 1% that was awesome.

But the time when it was better refers mostly to the change in philosophy in how pro wrestling is booked. Since WWE went corporate and became a monopoly, the way they approach booking shows and presenting stars has changed marketly; it's become much more sterile and sponsor friendly. While that's made it way more profitable, which is surely the motivation, it also means you don't get the same feeling about it that you did in the old days. Ric Flair was something special, so was Hogan, and so was Austin, and what made them special is something that modern WWE can't remake in the current style. The current philosophy doesn't allow people like that to succeed, because it involves putting too much on the performers, and that's a big risk- so instead, you get the "safe pick" like Roman Reigns. The irony is that Reigns has exactly the natural skillset that would have made him a big star in the Attitude Era, and where's that gotten him in the modern era?
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Post Post #2290  (isolation #380)  » Wed May 23, 2018 2:33 am

I'm tempted to post the Beaver Cleavage angle in here.
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Post Post #2296  (isolation #381)  » Wed May 23, 2018 2:51 pm

In post 2291, kuribo wrote:It's 1998 WCW all over again.

Shit main event booking, great midcard


Great midcard performers getting locked into repetitive feuds that revolve around having 1000 matches with each other on every TV show and PPV until they decide to move on? Checks out.
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Post Post #2310  (isolation #382)  » Mon May 28, 2018 3:29 am

Holy shit
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Post Post #2312  (isolation #383)  » Mon May 28, 2018 4:38 am

I'd want to read the book first, but if it's good, I'd be down.
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Post Post #2320  (isolation #384)  » Tue May 29, 2018 11:04 pm

Big Cass should start coming out to Flight of the Valkyries instead of his shit theme.
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Post Post #2330  (isolation #385)  » Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:57 pm

I've read the book, and I'm down also.
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Post Post #2339  (isolation #386)  » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:37 am

That means Hulk Hogan's last match on Raw is more recent than Lesnar's.
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Post Post #2354  (isolation #387)  » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:31 am

The urge to watch Dominion is so high; Okada/Omega, Naito/Jericho, and Mysterio working a match are all things I really want to see. But, I'm still working my way through BOTSJ, and I don't want to risk spoilers...

Also, I just realized I haven't watched this week's NXT, and I haven't watched main roster WWE since Greatest Royal Rumble. Goddammit, New Japan!
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Post Post #2367  (isolation #388)  » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:25 am

Cody would never lie
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Post Post #2372  (isolation #389)  » Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:59 am

Lashley was actually really good on Impact. He sucked on Raw because Vince insisted on fast-tracking him out of OVW when he was still super-green, but he got his shit together and got really good after he got some experience in TNA. The real question is why they've made him go back to the shit character he was in his first WWE run instead of letting him continue with the awesome ultra-athletic cocky heel he was doing when they poached him.
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Post Post #2378  (isolation #390)  » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:23 pm

To be fair, Sami losing the feud was in part so that he would have an excuse to get off television so he could get surgery he's needed for a while.
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Post Post #2383  (isolation #391)  » Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:28 pm

Big Dave is saying that Jericho has no dates left on his NJPW contract, and he was given the Intercontinental belt add a way of putting it on ice, since Gedo feels there's too many belts.

Also, I went to the G1 Special at the Cow Palace, and it was fucking sweet.
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Post Post #2385  (isolation #392)  » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 pm

Totally worth it, indeed. Young Bucks are incredible live; so is Kenny. Switchblade and Juice also really blew me away live in a way that they hadn't watching them on stream. Or maybe they just turned it up a notch; I don't know how it sounded on the stream, but the building was nuclear for that match. They were pretty nuclear for Naito, too, at least when the match started, though it cooled off after he tagged out the first time.
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Post Post #2401  (isolation #393)  » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:44 pm

So the G1 this year has been incredible so far, and it's only day 5. Get on it if you're not, guys.
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Post Post #2403  (isolation #394)  » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:50 pm

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Post Post #2406  (isolation #395)  » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:10 pm

I'm still confused. How many things are evil? I wish he'd explain.
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Post Post #2413  (isolation #396)  » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:52 am

If you don't give Ishii vs. Omega five stars, don't ever talk to me again.
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Post Post #2414  (isolation #397)  » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:30 pm

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Post Post #2421  (isolation #398)  » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:11 pm

In post 2418, Majiffy wrote:Fun fact: ROH is owned by Sinclair "This Is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy" Broadcasting


I know, it really sucks. ROH is probably the best wrestling company in America in terms of pure quality, but their ownership is deeply problematic. I think if you want to be a fan of pro wrestling, you have to make an unfortunate decision of how much problematic carnie bullshit you're willing to overlook in order to enjoy the product, though, because they all have problems.
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Post Post #2425  (isolation #399)  » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:39 pm

In post 2423, hiplop wrote:can someone give me cliff notes on why sinclair sucks

and yea being a wrestling fan means being okay with somem real shit


The cliff notes version is that Sinclair owns a lot of media companies, and they push a strong far right agenda. They've been one of the main driving forces pushing the "everything that isn't us is fake news" thing, and they've been fighting for years to repeal the laws that prevent media monopolies. They also tend to censor anything that runs counter to their politics, like back in 2004 when they forbid any of their syndicates to air any segment perceived as anti-war. They also forced all of their syndicates to air fake documentaries in a bid to undermine both John Kerry and Barack Obama, and strongly pushed Donald Trumps candidacy through some underhanded dealings with Jared Kushner.
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