Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Almost50]

What's worse is she claims that Elena is her "tryhard" alt. Check her ISO and let me know what you get from it (Hint: this here post is longer than the tl'dr Elena has said in the whole game)

[Elena Fisher]

VOTE: Elena

Over 26 hours ago she said

Well I'm going to get to this tomorrow. Have quite a bit to say, but my brain can't put it together

But she never delivered. Think the cat's eaten her "mouse"??

What's worse is she claims that Elena is her "tryhard" alt. Check her ISO and let me know what you get from it (Hint: this here post is longer than the tl'dr Elena has said in the whole game)

Ironic as it is I was just coming on to get posting. To answer you nice and quickly A50. I've had IRL issues that have made me mentally drained. Coming on this account and doing a lot of stuff I do makes it even harder because yes this is my tryhard account. I want to deliver good content. Not half-assed posts. Now, I assume you're voting me because of demotivation or something along those lines. Why does that make me scum? When we both know I'm a much better scum player than town.

Now then let's get started

[Elena Fisher]

This is the current list of known users in Channel 5. Vedith/SSBF scumflip caused some users in the channel to claim it to be compromised, but very little has been disclosed in the channel as is.

Chito and Yurri
Near x Mello
Robert2424
Toogeloo
Vedith / SSBF


If RP is correct that Scum don't have day chat, assuming there are no other scum in Channel 5, then it's likely that anything said in that channel never made it to the remaining scum.

What was the motivation to make this post in the first place? While all this is nice and probably correct. I don’t see the real reason to make a post like this at all. I suppose I should just be asking for your reads at this point given at the moment I’m set on killing you tonight. However, I’ll keep asking questions just in case I change my mind.

Elena, Robert, Morality

Thats the result of my reread

VOTE: Elena

~Near

Why Mort? I suppose I should ask about Rob as well, but I have my own reasoning for that read.

Talk to me about why you got Elena so high

(Elena town case)

While this is pretty interesting. I want to say meta on me isn't the best way to read me when I play on this account. The reason that is comes down to the fact I have such a dif mindset on this account compared to any account I play on before. It's the reason I play on it so rarely because to get myself into this mindset is hard enough in itself. I should go read and see if this reminds me of smackdown at all, but considering where me and Mastina are on reads I feel okay about her

[Elena Fisher]

i see. Thats basically the reason I scumread her. When she is town she will do things I wont like and I will consider manipulative and such and I will end up scumreading her. Here she is quiet and has basically done nothing.

~Near

I believe I should be null on your reads list if that's the case. Of course, you're welcome to read me however you want. I can promise though that lurking/not lurking has nothing to do with the game and has to be with my own IRL issues. I wouldn't lie on that, but of course this is mafia so I doubt certain people will believe me.

i see. Thats basically the reason I scumread her. When she is town she will do things I wont like and I will consider manipulative and such and I will end up scumreading her. Here she is quiet and has basically done nothing.

I used to have her be readable by the same model as me:
"If she looks town, she's scum; if she looks scum, she's town".

Experience has taught me it's not that simple anymore.

This made me chuckle, mostly because of how certain people think they can read me down to a science and then I win a game as town or scum and everything gets flipped. It really is quite amusing.

Town: {Chito and Yuuri, Spike and Jet, Pink Ball, singleton, Dunn, Torque, Almost, Joan, mastina}
Probtown: {Clem, Gamma, Toog, Reasonably Psychotic}
Nullscum: {Morality, Robert, Elena}

~Near

Talk to me on Pink, Joan,Toog Cleam (Along with Mora/Robrt but I asked that)

Ok
I found a lot of his mechanics talk nonscumhunting-y

Agreed. I find mech talk quite scummy. It's one of the things almost anyone can talk about to seem helpful, but in reality it's really not and just something scum use to try and act like they're doing something. It's a lesson I learned and has been correct I believe it's...6 out of 8 times so far. While that's not the full bases on my RP read it's certainly a factor

[Tatsuya Kaname]

In fact, easily settled:

- You also have a

factional kill

power. Decide with your teammate and confirm in your PT;

who is going to kill whom?

. You may change decisions until the end of the night. You may choose to not kill.

MOD: could Vedith both use the nightkill and action?

It's not specified one way or another, but the mod should be able to answer this.

Scum could both action and kill, Loud means absolute jackshit.
Scum can't both action and kill, Loud confirms they didn't kill that night, at least.

This has already been stated in the Setup Post.

IMPORTANT: UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE, YOU MAY ONLY ACTIVATE ONE ACTION EACH PHASE.

NOTE THAT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE FACTIONAL KILLS AND ANY PASSIVE ABILITIES THAT ACTIVATE AUTOMATICALLY

.

[Elena Fisher]

And so, go ahead, lynch me for daring to suggest that our wincon should be more important than individual pride and stubborness. Throw your reads away. mastina's reads are the only valid ones, as was proven time and time again. And I was there when some people decided to throw a game because they were too stubborn.

She was wrong about me on D1, I know that for a fact. Why should I trust her

Just because (from your pov at least) someone is incorrect on one read does not mean they should be automatically not trusted on other reads. People make mistakes that is an obvious fact. I think fully dismissing someone based off one read is just wrong. Especially if it's a read regarding your own slot

And so, go ahead, lynch me for daring to suggest that our wincon should be more important than individual pride and stubborness. Throw your reads away. mastina's reads are the only valid ones, as was proven time and time again. And I was there when some people decided to throw a game because they were too stubborn.

She was wrong about me on D1, I know that for a fact. Why should I trust her

Because this

It's my go-to-game as to why she should be trusted.

Each game is dif from the last game. Dif playerlist, Dif setting, Dif time etc etc. Just because mastina had a god tier game does not mean she should be sheeped every game after. I can also link games where I had god tier reads. Does that mean people should sheep me? No, no they should not.

Lets not overlook the fact that mastina basically thinks the entirety of the scum team exists in Channel 5. Yep, that's good scum hunting right thar.

Toog, Gamma, what are your thoughts on mastina's and my reads and why arent you voting

~Near

Who cares about Mastina and her reads. We should be talking about our own reads.

[Elena Fisher]

Oh I forgot to answer Toogeloos thing.
Whoever is in what hood is not relevant because the hoods were made on a common theme with picks. Not scum/twon

[Elena Fisher]

I went back to look at an old anime u-pick: Mafia did not have day talk when it wasn't said in the main thread, so RP is probably right

I’m gonna say this comes from scumDunnstral. I’m not going to use this as a reason to push, but that’s where my heads at with Dunn after this post.

Dunn’s town.

Well, I would love to see how you got to point A to point B here.

I love how flippant mastina is about my claim.

"We test him tonight. If he doesn't die, we lynch him tomorrow. If he really is weak tonight and flips town tomorrow... Whoops, moving on. "

Only scum target me tonight.

I'm going to target you tonight. You're my top scumread until further notice. If you think I'm scum for that fair enough. I don't see a reason for town you to ever claim this in any standpoint. If you were at L-1 I can see it. You weren't under any pressure at the time of your claim. So I think you're quite frankly bsing. We'll see tonight though

[Elena Fisher]

i dont feel like battling you

youre cheeky and youll just be townread if i continue

I need to go see if scum wisdom has ever posted this. I can think of 2 times town him has made this type of post. It makes me want to townread them a little.

I'm loud too

this is another hint dunn is town btw

he does not actively participate in our discussion, nor does he particularly think this makes morality scum or anything, he just throws it in in case someone finds it important

no reason for scum to do it

I think this logic is a bit too basic to be creditable

neither of you can read me

VOTE: elena

By this point did you townread Mort?

[Elena Fisher]

Ok my brain is going into a bit of a shutdown and I'm skimming the last 4 pages wanting to be over. That's a sign that I should stop. I will however vote here.
VOTE: Clem
Now some people might be. 'But Elena you never talked about Clem in like any of your iso!' You'd be correct in that. He was a hard null read that made me want to comment on almost none of his posts besides the recent ones on 66/55 all the sideline posting seems to be scum trying to fuel the flames. I dislike it

[Almost50]

Ogm for God's sake, Elena! Like we need yet

another

vanity wagon. Should I switch my vote to someone who is currently not voted??

[Morality]

He’s not trying to fuel the flames. We’re town reads of each other.

My channel is a masonry. It’s pretty clear to us all in there. We’ve all claimed, and we’re all sticking together.

[Almost50]

My channel is a masonry.

What channel is that again? And why would you think it's a masonry?

[Near x Mello]

who is in sakura tv again? Clem and joan?

~Near

[Near x Mello]

Ogm for God's sake, Elena! Like we need yet

another

vanity wagon. Should I switch my vote to someone who is currently not voted??

we're not near deadline so i dont see why thats such a problem

~Near

[Near x Mello]

Ill probably regret it but i feel better about Elena

~Near

[Morality]

My channel is a masonry.

What channel is that again? And why would you think it's a masonry?

Well, mixed with reading the players, and my role revolving around channel specific stuff

[Almost50]

Ogm for God's sake, Elena! Like we need yet

another

vanity wagon. Should I switch my vote to someone who is currently not voted??

we're not near deadline so i dont see why thats such a problem

~Near

Because it messes up with VCA. I want to see who votes whom with whom. If every wagon is composed of 1-3 votes and then they change their minds I have everyone having voted everyone else when there was no real pressure on the voted = NAI

[Near x Mello]

well if that helps my vote would probably be back on morality right now

~Near

[Gamma Emerald]

im not trying to lynch him but ill let that aside

why is he not fakeclaiming that role? why should i automatically believe him? do you think morality is not good enough scum to play like he has played?

~Near

First off, each time I asked that exact same question, people flipped me off, so why shouldn't I do the same to you?

Second of all, here

If you look at all my games since SU2, you'll see that I doubted the hell out of my hood-mates, every single time.

Oh, and this is the reason I usually make fluff posts, because every time I try to play seriously, people shut me out.

Feeling like Joan is town.

[Joan of Arc]

im trying to take you seriously but i feel that *you* are shutting me out instead

in the end you didnt explain to me why you think that me not believing morality is scum motivated and deserves your vote.

~Near

It's because I know myself. If they were scum, I'd be doubting them as usual. The fact I am not means they are town, and that you're scum for tunneling them.

[Near x Mello]

But you have seen me tunneling town as town so even if youre right and morality is town it means nothing about my alignment

~Near

[Joan of Arc]

But you have seen me tunneling town as town so even if youre right and morality is town it means nothing about my alignment

~Near

Scum are more likely to push town than town are from my experience. If you are saying that my experience is wrong, prove it. You have all the games I have played, show me when and where has town pushed other town without reconsidering.

[Near x Mello]

easy examples off the top of my head; me pushing jake in symphonic metal and nero in your game

~Near

[Pink Ball]

I think Morality is town. For the people, by the people