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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sun May 25, 2008 12:25 pm

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we meet again dcorbe. ;)

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vote:alabasksa J
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Sun May 25, 2008 4:17 pm

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too scummy, doubtful he is scum.

(btw could you new guys put an avatar on? It makes it difficult to read and differentiate when you don't have one.)
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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Sun May 25, 2008 7:28 pm

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*blue eyes grow really big*

*lip quivers*

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Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Mon May 26, 2008 8:46 am

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unvote: Alabaska
because I just saw that you are a fellow Texan.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Mon May 26, 2008 9:39 am

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Natirasha wrote:
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unvote: Alabaska
because I just saw that you are a fellow Texan.
I live in Dallas.
me too ^^ (well a few miles north but who's counting?)
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Post Post #24 (isolation #5) » Mon May 26, 2008 10:32 am

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Korts wrote:
DarlaBlueEyes wrote:*blue eyes grow really big*

*lip quivers*

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Aww that's sweet.
I try.

Natirasha--- thats cool, we have a nice texany game ^^
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Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Mon May 26, 2008 10:47 am

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vote Korts
for messing with Texas(ans)
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Post Post #29 (isolation #7) » Mon May 26, 2008 10:59 am

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a lazy way of saying Texas and Texans in one word.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #8) » Mon May 26, 2008 1:35 pm

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why am I blue when Natirasha has the same amount of votes? :p

either way, I would love for the other players to post... (as in the ones who havent yet)
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Post Post #35 (isolation #9) » Mon May 26, 2008 3:10 pm

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ahh okay thanks for the clarification! ^^
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Post Post #37 (isolation #10) » Mon May 26, 2008 5:53 pm

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its a he... apparently its russian.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #11) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:28 pm

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I haven't in my (limited) experience seen scum do that, but you never know really, I am shocked by what I see in almost all my games.. guess I got a lot to learn.

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Post Post #54 (isolation #12) » Wed May 28, 2008 8:42 am

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my vote stays with me until I find a compatible home for it.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #13) » Wed May 28, 2008 8:58 am

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why are you so preoccupied with my vote anyways?

I like to be sure My vote is going to good use before I just slap it on someone, but if it will please you to see it somewhere,

vote: roflcopter


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Post Post #60 (isolation #14) » Wed May 28, 2008 9:44 am

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well there has hardly ben anything scummy so far, but I would suppose it would have to be poj waiting to vote for a lurker.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #15) » Wed May 28, 2008 9:30 pm

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I will not be on tomorrow.. got a follow up exam for my contacts and the LOST finale party.. will try to check in in the morn, but no guarantees.

copter, The vote was a joke obv.. I don;t think you are scummy but you need to chill about me just
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Post Post #100 (isolation #16) » Fri May 30, 2008 10:17 am

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alrighty I am back ^^,

Still in the same place I was before, I don't particularly see why Lowell would be lasted for thinking self voting is scummy, except that he was absolute about it.

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Post Post #106 (isolation #17) » Sat May 31, 2008 1:59 pm

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interesting events...

vote Lowell


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Post Post #115 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:21 am

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In my opinion, Lowell hasn't done anything THAT scummy except not be incredibly helpful.

His last post was helpful especially considering I hate going back and recording all that stuff myself.

I wasn't alerted by his play style early on because it seems to be his SOP in other games I have been in with him.

I will say his reaction to his bandwagon seemed pretty town, He didn't get all jumpy and defensive as I have seen scum do so many times, although that could just be experience working in his favor.

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Post Post #116 (isolation #19) » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:23 am

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EBWOP:

ok so korts unvoted and he was at L-2 but wither way I wanna read a few posts then I will be back with my vote.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #20) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:24 am

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skye some posting would be great, and lol, you're awfully excited to see Skye Alabaska...

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Post Post #134 (isolation #21) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:11 am

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Oh, lol yea, sorry Syke. My bad.

anways I still don't have a good feel for anyone as scum but I am thinking that last Alabaska post is the start of a beautiful bandwagon.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #22) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:33 am

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Must obey the bunny..

vote:Alabaska


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Post Post #144 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:53 am

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ok so wow...

just for the record I didn't realize I hammered yesterday, I thought it was only going to be a L-2, major miscount on my part.

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Post Post #146 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:56 am

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dcorbe, I miscounted too, didn't even realize it was a lynch, I was like, WHY IS THIS THREAD CLOSED?

anyways, you make a good point about the only other person you made a case against dying, although I wouldn't have been so quick to remind everyone if I was you.

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Post Post #147 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:57 am

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ahh crossed posts with you there, I agree, no rush lynch, we need more discussion going so we can get more scum reads
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Post Post #169 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:52 am

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I can see some of the natirasha stuff, but I think it'd be better not to rush into another lynch.

I don't think I've ever been in a 9-player (besides a newbie) so I will be much more cautious with my vote now. (so used to 12+ player games where a vote is a lot less dangerous)

anyways onto the Natirasha thing, I re-read as well and rofl is correct, he added absolutely nothing helpful to the day, no scum hunting, nada. Just arguing about the self votes mainly.

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Post Post #183 (isolation #27) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:50 am

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catching up.. nice to see activity here again! Will post later this afternoon/Evening I have to go see family and stuff.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #28) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:13 pm

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before I vote to Lynch anyone I would like a prod/post from Syke and Poj
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Post Post #196 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:44 pm

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I am not trying to lay low, My net's been out and I got 7 games that need catching up in, this one is lower on the list, especially since its so slow.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:14 pm

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you are really starting to get annoying dcorbe, chill out okay? I will get to this game when i get to it, there is no rule for not posting in the last 12 hours, if anyone needs replacing its poj or syke. Perhaps you should look into joining another game :D

onward we go basic analysis:

Korts - Seems somewhat scummy but overall I'd say town
Rofl - as much as he pushes wagons relentlessly I would most likely think he was more on the townie side of things
dcorbe - really annoying REALLY town - townie
natirasha - probable scum, added absolutely nothing yesterday
Raj - probable scum, his posts were divisive and unhelpful all day long
syke - lurky but I would assume town, by how he acted in his few posts yesterday.

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Post Post #199 (isolation #31) » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:16 pm

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gah raj should pread poj sorry
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Post Post #205 (isolation #32) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:53 am

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firstly, that syke thing was my fault, because we are in two games right now and I was thinking of those posts, I did a re-read on here and LOL'd at myself.

point A: dcorbe; do you truely believe the scum of this game are those not paying attention and lurking? honest question.

and alrighty away we go....(with the relevant syke info lol)

dcorbe: started the day off with what looked like good intentions (D1 here) had a few logic flaws, but mostly were that of a townie. Still, I say townie.

Korts: Could be scum, but I am not really sure, his play style is hard to read, but I get a feel that he is more town than scum from the overall lump of his posts.

rofl: seems townie, although pretty renegade with his quick lynch/quick bandwagon mentality.

now for the scummy few:

Natirasha, possibly the least scummy of the three, if for nothing else, posting quite a bit more and adding content, I still wouldn't put all my egg's in his basket to say he ISNT scum, but I'd bet he was less than Poj and Syke.


Syke: *in correct game now lol* No posts, lurks heavily, is active in other games most lkely a sign of lurking, probably scum

poj: looking bqack at his posts, all he did, was argue with Lowell most especially about the scummyness/non scummyness of self voting, he had a few posts that dared stray from that general subject but nothing that added helpful content to the game. scum.

so today I say we lynch Syke or Poj.

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and for the record I believe the vote count is:

DBE - dcorbe
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Post Post #206 (isolation #33) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:55 am

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EBWOP

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Post Post #211 (isolation #34) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:25 pm

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His tunnel vision doesn't bother you at all? Concentrating on one lynch target per day with no discussion doesn't seem like a rather anti-town thing to do?
Not per say but, better someone who is aggressively hunting (using the vote pressure tactic I assume) than someone who is more apathetic and doesn't care about voting.

@ the vote count; udders @_@
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Post Post #214 (isolation #35) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:53 pm

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His tunnel vision doesn't bother you at all? Concentrating on one lynch target per day with no discussion doesn't seem like a rather anti-town thing to do?
Not per say but, better someone who is aggressively hunting (using the vote pressure tactic I assume) than someone who is more apathetic and doesn't care about voting.

@ the vote count; udders @_@
Sorry but I don't buy that. If he were scum hunting he would be posting more content than:
roflcopter wrote: more votes for lowell are necessary
and:
roflcopter wrote: hey that argument was stupid lets all be friends and vote for natirasha together, k?
Both wagons he was pushing on D1 turned up town, though admittedly one wasn't entirely his fault. You would think after being wrong twice so far he'd be making a more honest effort to build cases, but he's still sitting there demanding quick lynches, so he isn't acting in the best interests of the town right now.

Secondly, he hasn't really even acknowledged my presence in this game yet which I think is a little strange, but I don't know what to make of it yet. In any case he's not mounting much of a defense so he's not even acting in his own best interests right now.
If you feel so strongly he is scum, or scummy, why are you not voting him? (yes you're own logic can bite you in the butt like that)
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Post Post #232 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:52 pm

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just catching up, btw, welcome to the game SG, I do apologize for being a bit lazy here, with my internet going out, and having to catch up multiple places, and this game having been a bit slow for awhile it was lower on my priorities, but tis more active now and I am re-reading.

One problem I have, is that the D1 lynch was so fast (I so didn't realize this was a 9 player and would have never voted had I realized it was a hammer)

dcorbe, I do wonder, in you post you say, we DO (certainty) have 2 power roles, before Prozac confirmed. Now I am wondering if this means that you have a PR, id this is the case, I urge you not to confirm or claim,
yet
althogh this is a shorter game, and probably wont go more than 3-4 days depending on how well we lynch, and if we catch the scum, but most certainly would wait until tomorrow or until you are in danger of a lynch yourself.

that said, I agree with your points about rofl, and I can't help but think a little pressure on him, (his own tactic) would be benifical to getting more information out of him.

unvote; vote rofl


he plays incredible similar to the infamous (well to me since I was involved 7for7 tactic by Albie. see here for info on 7for7 http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=7for7 Me bing the 'Player Y' this is very similar, only rofl gives even LESS reasonong)

As for korts, I think he is someone to look at tomorrow, but we don't have enough info to lynch him today, but I will be re-reviewing his posting to see what I can find.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #37) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:04 pm

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oh, ok Thats what the mod meant, heh, never mind the comment then dcorbe
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Post Post #239 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:35 pm

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dcorbe, it would serve you well not to be so double minded.

as for his 'dropping off the face of the earth' that is untrue, meta him, he posted Several times yesterday.

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Post Post #240 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:36 pm

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Post Post #251 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:09 pm

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Thank for the more indepth post rofl, Its what I was hoping to get from you with a little pressure. to prevent any sort of rushlynch or anything
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I did not realize how flip-floppy and self-contradicting Nat's posts were. the HoS on Korts then the, I dont see the case on Korts, then the Korts may be scum, ick, he really is reeking of scum.

I didn't mean to accuse you of avoiding the game, I only meant to show dcorbe that saying you fell off the face of the earth was stupid, and that you had posted only yesterday on MS, and if you
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avoiding the thread you were lurking, but I post n some threads on some days and not in others, sorry for jumping on the conclusion of lurkdom.

coming full circle, I don't think we should lynch natirasha until he gets a replacement or responds to his prod, but I am certainly, on board for a nat lynch if he or his replacement don't make a convincing case or at least have a damn good claim.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:17 am

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Post Post #266 (isolation #42) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:14 pm

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vote Natirasha


For every reason stated in previous posts and the fact that your defense had too many holes in it.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #43) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:33 pm

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ok seriously, explain Please? <the FOS on me>

and what do you mean 'This is the most retarded town ever' dissociative from the town much?

And by the results can we assume we have a doctor? I mean I dont want anyone to claim yet, but why would the scums not send in a Kill at this point? the scums in this game are seriously making some weird choices. Lowell on N1 was way out of left field since so many people suspected him, he would seem like a good fall guy for the scum to push a wagon on.

and now if they DID send in a no kill I am just baffled....

Looking over yesterday's events I am gonna, <agree with dcorbe on ONE thing>

Fos Shadow
whats with the rush hammer, I mean I didn't even get to check the thread before you did, and Az barley got to post or add input. This 9 player style is dangerous for rash voting, we need to be more careful when adding votes.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #44) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:00 pm

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And your assumption is correct. We do have a doctor alive who scored a hit.
are you saying YOU are the doctor? I mean it IS possible we have a Role Block.

and I have explaind my hammer many times, you yourself said you didn't realize it was 5 to lynch, so stop acting all high and mighty on it, kthnxbai. We all made the mistake of mislynching, you're hollier than thou act is getting really old.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:59 pm

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Firstly, you have way too much time on your hands.

dcorbe wrote:
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and I will take the time to explain why:

1) You're FoSing people for the same actions you've done and I think you're trying to hide behind some weird moral high ground.
How am I hiding? I admitted to the same mistakes. I thought SHadow KNEW she was hammering, After that last post I had taken my FOS off. I don't always post 'UnFOS' believe it or not, Im normal that way. You are the one acting like your Mr. Town Hero, and as if you couldn't POSSIBLY be scum yourself.
2) This was an extremely short night, so we know the players who had a night choice are at their keyboards right now. Since you and I were the first to post and I know I'm not scum, it must mean either you are or you have bad timing.
OK major crap logic; For all we know the kill was sent in earlier and the mod posted now, just beacuase a person DOESN'T post doesn't make them NOT online; YOU were here as well, so the suspicion is a null tell honestly unless you are incriminating yourself just as much for Being here. It was the afternoon for me, when I am always on, there is way to much WIFOM in the accusation that because I was on when the day started = I am scum, that its pretty laughable.
3) Well, you dropped the hammer on D1.
Ok for what, the 8th or 9th, time, NONE OF US, realized it was 5 to lunch. The Hammer wasn't intentional, and YOU put him at L-1, YOU followed the crowd and voted as well. Hypocritical point 1.
4) I think it's awfully suspicious that you're trying to confirm a kill. That's a huge newbie scum tell. You submitted a name to the mod and you're wondering why the kill didn't go through. There's really no other reason to attempt to confirm a kill especially since the mod basically spelled out the scene for us all.
LMAO @ The newb calling me a newb. Ok first off, do you think I am THAT stupid? or are you describing how YOU feel? I am thinking out loud for the town, I have been in many games, many which are complete and some that are running, I KNOW what a no-Kill means, I dont need to run to the mod and cry. and ' No Point ' ??? Seriously??Do you not want people sniffing around? and You ignored my question about the cop quite well, AND you seemed a bit miffed, Maybe someone is mad that their Kill was prevented by the cop??
5) Post 138 "Must obey the bunny" jumping on a bandwagon with no reasoning. A bandwagon which you were dead wrong on, and to make matters worse that was the hammer drop.
1, I t was still semi random, 2, See number 3.
6) Post 146. You tell me I made a good point, but then you FoS me because I was on the wagon right behind you. That is an OMGUSy reaction as I pointed out to you in post 148
Sooo... If I FOS you, while saying you made a good point its OMGUS! Wow MafiaWiki must be wrong about the definition of OMGUS, perhaps you should go enlighten them. That hole point really makes no sense to me honestly.
7) Post 169.. Again.. following roflcopter onto the WRONG bandwagon. Seriously, buddy up much?
ZOMG! I Joined a Bandwagon on someone who Looked Scummy!!! What Am I?? Scum Hunting??? :O the nerve of me. And Hind sight is 20/20, and I do believe I recall you voting on a few of those wagons. Hypocrite point 2.
8) Post 183, You've been lurking apparently.. so by this point all you've really done is posted short meaningless quips and chased roflcopter around from wagon-to-wagon mostly agreeing with his logic instead of trying to build your own cases
Ohhh so now I am the lurker? not the two that had to be replaced or Natirasha? Since I have a life and cant post every 3 minutes like you, I must be lurking, How dare I? and rofl was the lead town attacker, we had very little to go on, and he thought he knew what he was saying. Pressure votes never hurt anyone.
9) Post 194... where's that analysis you promised us in post 183? You sure seem to like to ask for others to be proded but you still haven't really contributed an original thought of your own yet. I pointed that out to you in the very next post (195)
LOL, ok, so, I see, tp recall asking you for a few posts that you never delivered on, and I seem to recall you going with the town on several tangents, and I seem to recall you adding very litte and being unable to explain all your FOS's with out demanding someone ELSE answer you, on something that wasn't even there. <see the Korts stuff yesterday>
10) Post 198, instead of posting anything useful you tell me how annoying I am, and then you proceed to give everyone your "analysis" which is really just a list of who you think is town and who isn't with nothing to back it up.
OMG! I did? I mean who would say what they thought When asked. I mean wow. and ftr you were <and are> being very annoying, some players are like that. Demanding I replace out because I cant post EVERY SECOND OMG! That is annoying, and I do remember you accepting my alignment analysis post quite well.
11) Korts points out your lack of contributions in 201. And you don't even address it this time... no OMGUSy reaction.. you just..simply..ignore him.
So.. now...YOu are MAD I didn't OMGUS him? Or just jealous I OMGUS'd You and NOT Him? so the fact that when he voted me I didn't throw a fit and throw a vote back at him... makes...me scum? I think I need a copy of your MafiaWiki cos obviously, You Know better than the one here.

12) Post 211: More buddying up to roflcopter
Gee, so since I didn't tell him he was being annoying like you, that means Im his buddy? got it, must insult people more.
13) Post 214, Even more buddying up to roflcopter
Hey have you seen one of those big heavy book things called a dictionary? hows about you look up sarcasm, and having fun.
14) Post 232. You've been lurking.. again... You go back to taking the moral high ground about your obvious D1 misdeeds (dropping the hammer) and now you're trying to buddy up to me and distance yourself from roflcopter because I'm on to you.. Also your vote for roflcopter here seems to be a complete 180 from your previous stance
Again Lurking to You /=/ Lurking to the rest of the world. You accused rofl of dropping off the face of the earth for not posting in LESS than 42 hours, and I restate, some of us have lives. So, because I think He is scum after his renegade actions, AND YOU think he is scum I am YOUR buddy now. Wow and to think I thought two people could think the same thing. and 'You were on to me' you sure are cocky here, Mr Town Hero, is grasping at straws and changing his mind 1 million miles an hour. Also, My vote was clearly stated as a pressure vote to see what we could get out of him, which proved effective since he then posted content.
15) Now you're attacking me because I'm going after your scum buddy again.. this is right after you voted for him, BTW.. flip-flop much?
I dont see this, unless you mean my telling you He isn't lurking and telling you you would do well not to be so double minded, if that = attack, then again I need to see your superior copy of MafiaWiki.
16) post 251.. backing off his wagon because you don't want to bus him... you only want to ride it to the point so you can come off looking pro-town if he does get lynched.
Again, My vote was a pressure vote, It was L-1 and I didn't want a lynch yet since he finally started posting content, which is why i voted him to begin with, FOR PRESSURE HIS OWN TACTIC, Please read my posts if you are going to try and accuse me with them.
17) Post 266: Following roflcopter back onto the wrong wagon again.
So, because I took action and Voted for The SCUMMIEST player around, I am being a sheep and its ALL my FAULT that we mislynched again? You are being very disassociative from this town, and I don't like it btw.
In conclusion, I think it's pretty clear who should be lynched today.
Yes, and knowing you, you will change your mind in 3-4 posts.

I don't know if you are scum, but I think you are a seriously high minded newbie who just tried really hard, and just failed.

My main points about YOU points; You are a Hypocrite.

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Firstly, you have way too much time on your hands.

dcorbe wrote:
I'll tell you what.. darla.. Since roflcopter is away right now and you're at the keyboard, I'm going to go ahead and
Unvote
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Vote: DarlaBlueEyes
and I will take the time to explain why:

1) You're FoSing people for the same actions you've done and I think you're trying to hide behind some weird moral high ground.
How am I hiding? I admitted to the same mistakes. I thought SHadow KNEW she was hammering, After that last post I had taken my FOS off. I don't always post 'UnFOS' believe it or not, Im normal that way. You are the one acting like your Mr. Town Hero, and as if you couldn't POSSIBLY be scum yourself.
2) This was an extremely short night, so we know the players who had a night choice are at their keyboards right now. Since you and I were the first to post and I know I'm not scum, it must mean either you are or you have bad timing.
OK major crap logic; For all we know the kill was sent in earlier and the mod posted now, just beacuase a person DOESN'T post doesn't make them NOT online; YOU were here as well, so the suspicion is a null tell honestly unless you are incriminating yourself just as much for Being here. It was the afternoon for me, when I am always on, there is way to much WIFOM in the accusation that because I was on when the day started = I am scum, that its pretty laughable.
3) Well, you dropped the hammer on D1.
Ok for what, the 8th or 9th, time, NONE OF US, realized it was 5 to lunch. The Hammer wasn't intentional, and YOU put him at L-1, YOU followed the crowd and voted as well. Hypocritical point 1.
4) I think it's awfully suspicious that you're trying to confirm a kill. That's a huge newbie scum tell. You submitted a name to the mod and you're wondering why the kill didn't go through. There's really no other reason to attempt to confirm a kill especially since the mod basically spelled out the scene for us all.
LMAO @ The newb calling me a newb. Ok first off, do you think I am THAT stupid? or are you describing how YOU feel? I am thinking out loud for the town, I have been in many games, many which are complete and some that are running, I KNOW what a no-Kill means, I dont need to run to the mod and cry. and ' No Point ' ??? Seriously??Do you not want people sniffing around? and You ignored my question about the cop quite well, AND you seemed a bit miffed, Maybe someone is mad that their Kill was prevented by the cop??
5) Post 138 "Must obey the bunny" jumping on a bandwagon with no reasoning. A bandwagon which you were dead wrong on, and to make matters worse that was the hammer drop.
1, I t was still semi random, 2, See number 3.
6) Post 146. You tell me I made a good point, but then you FoS me because I was on the wagon right behind you. That is an OMGUSy reaction as I pointed out to you in post 148
Sooo... If I FOS you, while saying you made a good point its OMGUS! Wow MafiaWiki must be wrong about the definition of OMGUS, perhaps you should go enlighten them. That hole point really makes no sense to me honestly.
7) Post 169.. Again.. following roflcopter onto the WRONG bandwagon. Seriously, buddy up much?
ZOMG! I Joined a Bandwagon on someone who Looked Scummy!!! What Am I?? Scum Hunting??? :O the nerve of me. And Hind sight is 20/20, and I do believe I recall you voting on a few of those wagons. Hypocrite point 2.
8) Post 183, You've been lurking apparently.. so by this point all you've really done is posted short meaningless quips and chased roflcopter around from wagon-to-wagon mostly agreeing with his logic instead of trying to build your own cases
Ohhh so now I am the lurker? not the two that had to be replaced or Natirasha? Since I have a life and cant post every 3 minutes like you, I must be lurking, How dare I? and rofl was the lead town attacker, we had very little to go on, and he thought he knew what he was saying. Pressure votes never hurt anyone.
9) Post 194... where's that analysis you promised us in post 183? You sure seem to like to ask for others to be proded but you still haven't really contributed an original thought of your own yet. I pointed that out to you in the very next post (195)
LOL, ok, so, I see, tp recall asking you for a few posts that you never delivered on, and I seem to recall you going with the town on several tangents, and I seem to recall you adding very litte and being unable to explain all your FOS's with out demanding someone ELSE answer you, on something that wasn't even there. <see the Korts stuff yesterday>
10) Post 198, instead of posting anything useful you tell me how annoying I am, and then you proceed to give everyone your "analysis" which is really just a list of who you think is town and who isn't with nothing to back it up.
OMG! I did? I mean who would say what they thought When asked. I mean wow. and ftr you were <and are> being very annoying, some players are like that. Demanding I replace out because I cant post EVERY SECOND OMG! That is annoying, and I do remember you accepting my alignment analysis post quite well.
11) Korts points out your lack of contributions in 201. And you don't even address it this time... no OMGUSy reaction.. you just..simply..ignore him.
So.. now...YOu are MAD I didn't OMGUS him? Or just jealous I OMGUS'd You and NOT Him? so the fact that when he voted me I didn't throw a fit and throw a vote back at him... makes...me scum? I think I need a copy of your MafiaWiki cos obviously, You Know better than the one here.

12) Post 211: More buddying up to roflcopter
Gee, so since I didn't tell him he was being annoying like you, that means Im his buddy? got it, must insult people more.
13) Post 214, Even more buddying up to roflcopter
Hey have you seen one of those big heavy book things called a dictionary? hows about you look up sarcasm, and having fun.
14) Post 232. You've been lurking.. again... You go back to taking the moral high ground about your obvious D1 misdeeds (dropping the hammer) and now you're trying to buddy up to me and distance yourself from roflcopter because I'm on to you.. Also your vote for roflcopter here seems to be a complete 180 from your previous stance
Again Lurking to You /=/ Lurking to the rest of the world. You accused rofl of dropping off the face of the earth for not posting in LESS than 42 hours, and I restate, some of us have lives. So, because I think He is scum after his renegade actions, AND YOU think he is scum I am YOUR buddy now. Wow and to think I thought two people could think the same thing. and 'You were on to me' you sure are cocky here, Mr Town Hero, is grasping at straws and changing his mind 1 million miles an hour. Also, My vote was clearly stated as a pressure vote to see what we could get out of him, which proved effective since he then posted content.
15) Now you're attacking me because I'm going after your scum buddy again.. this is right after you voted for him, BTW.. flip-flop much?
I dont see this, unless you mean my telling you He isn't lurking and telling you you would do well not to be so double minded, if that = attack, then again I need to see your superior copy of MafiaWiki.
16) post 251.. backing off his wagon because you don't want to bus him... you only want to ride it to the point so you can come off looking pro-town if he does get lynched.
Again, My vote was a pressure vote, It was L-1 and I didn't want a lynch yet since he finally started posting content, which is why i voted him to begin with, FOR PRESSURE HIS OWN TACTIC, Please read my posts if you are going to try and accuse me with them.
17) Post 266: Following roflcopter back onto the wrong wagon again.
So, because I took action and Voted for The SCUMMIEST player around, I am being a sheep and its ALL my FAULT that we mislynched again? You are being very disassociative from this town, and I don't like it btw.
In conclusion, I think it's pretty clear who should be lynched today.
Yes, and knowing you, you will change your mind in 3-4 posts.

I don't know if you are scum, but I think you are a seriously high minded newbie who just tried really hard, and just failed.

My main points about YOU points; You are a Hypocrite.

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Damn internet hiccup. Mod you can delete one of those if you want.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #48) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:10 pm

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LMAo you are so misguided I could barley get through that post with out laughing.

First off, How is 'Catching up, will post later I have family stuff' Admitting to lurking? I have a life, I could have just not posted at all, but I had the decency to tell you guys whats up.

another point (I will touch on them all later) I said, You would do well not to be so double minded, wtf makes that an attack? and yea I am emotional (Im a girl 'insert sexist jokes' and Im a Texan 'insert texas jokes') an little annoy players like you who think they know everything and have so many holes in their logic its painful, just really really rub me the wrong way.

First off, NOT EVERYTHING IS OMGUS.

And FTR, OMGUS is typically a response on an attack on you. Not just anything that feels mean or personal. You make a post, and I agree with some parts but still FoS you, IS NOT OMGUS! Just because I agree with one part doesn't mean I am gonna think you aren't scum, this game is not black and white.

OMGUS is when you vote for me, and I vote for you ONLY because you voted for me. Just because I think a person is a scum doesn't mean they cant make good points about something. and tbh, several of your points are too craplogicy to even bother with.


and May I ask, How many games have you been in? How many hav you completed? How many scum have you lynched or called correctly? And Did you start playing the DAY you joined? join date doesn't tell how long you've been here, Games and results my friend.

and ftr, Scums arent the only ones who can OMGUS, look in a mirror, cos if 'You are not scum' You are using a hell of a lot OMGUS on me.

and also, look at your post today, I questioned your FoS on me, and you leave all your 'suspicions' and insta Vote me!!

Now to be you: OMGUS OMGUS OMGUS OMGUS OMGUS OMGUS.

you have the will to be a good scum hunter, but you skill lacks severely.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #49) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:15 pm

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Again, it's not about what you say (always) it's about what you do. And what you do is consistently fail to justify your votes with any sort of case building material instead choosing to hide behind craplogic excuses like "pressure voting".
Excuse me mr. know it all, Pressure voting is not a crap logic excuse. Pressuring is a way to get players to put out content or fail to. If he had failed I would not have Unvoted him. You have not the experience or the track record to tell me whats a good voting reason or not.

How about you try surviving your first game with the likes of Yos2 Joudas, MBF, ABR, Mac, and PyroDwarf You learn fat in this game, and when you have played with and been terrified by the masters of the game, you pick up on a lot. Call it a crash course.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #50) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:19 pm

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Im going to have a life again and go watch a movie, I AM NOT LURKING OKAY I MAY BE GONE FOR 2-3 HOURS OR UNTIL TOMORROW BUT I AM NOT LURKING!!???

I will come back and address what I can from that pile of 'points' when I have the time.

and ftr, theres a big difference between sarcasm and mocking you and OMGUS (on point 13)
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Post Post #309 (isolation #51) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:18 pm

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dcorbe wrote:I get the feeling that this thread is about to erupt in chaos..
Glare: roflcopter, DBE
right, how old are you? Your attacks are so annoying and immature, that any good points you MIGHT have are washed out. I can barley read this thread (specifically your posts) without getting a headache.

If you want people to respect you and really get your points, please, for the love of god get off the high and mighty stance.

I am not a big post - writer.. I think other than my (intentionally) sarcastic and rude reply to you, the only other one i did was in the other game we were in together.

So don't expect me to really rev up and meet your accusations in some term paper. as I said before I have a life and this IS just a game.

I's like to know why if your main accusation is I FOLLOWED rofl ON ALL THE WRONG BANDWAGONS (Hindsight is 20/20 ) Did you not notice Korts on both those wagons as well?

You need to not be selective with your accusations if you're gonna use such a broad base. and what about rofl? He is the EVOL BUNNY who actually took action and started bandwagons, we dont know if he knew ahead of time they werent scums, so your claim that he LYNCHED ALL TEH WRONG people is bullshit. It was a MAJORITY decision, as you informed us, 50% + 1, so it wasn't anything you can pin on one person. and easy for you to point the finger when you wouldn't make up your mind all day yesterday.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:10 pm

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wow. Come home from a Friday night of parties and you guys have posted like mad. Catching up now, will post as soon as I do.
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Post Post #370 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:22 pm

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ok, just ignoring the comments about me from dcorbe that are non-game related,

I am thinking, what if both dcorbe and Korts are scum together? they could have planned the PR claim thing, Idk, but I am more inclined to believe Az, because, 1. I am the
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and I got no results last night while investigating roflcopter. I assumed I was RB'd thats why the No Kill confused me. and 2. I Investigated Poj (Az) night 1 and they came up clean. So I know that Az is not lying.

I think our scum pair lies in dcorbe/Korts

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Post Post #377 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:44 pm

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@ my Poj vote, I Was trying to draw out scum to see if they would bandwagon, so i would know who to investigate night 2. Its a tactic I used in a previous game successfully, voting the person I know is innocent to see who jumps on.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:50 pm

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I think you are both lying, I think Az is the Role Block and I know I am the cop.

He claims ot have RB'd me last night, and I was RB'd since I got no results.

There are only 2 Power Roles.

Thus I think both you and dcorbe are lying.
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Post Post #385 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:05 pm

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Because AZ said he RB'd me. I got no results. We have no way to prove your claim either now do we?

we have someone CLAIMING to have RB'd me. Doc is an opportunist claim, its an excuse to say not to lynch you, because you are the doc.

IMO you are Korts partner. It explains why you constantly asked him if he thought I was being OMGUSy and ignoring the fact he was on both 'THE RONG WAGONS' too.

Then you two devised this little plot hoping no one would counter claim, and you two would avoid the lynch because you had the PRs.

And tbh I think Korts is the more obvious of you two, and that he is more of a threat as scum since he is more experienced and should be lynched first.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:11 pm

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The problem with saying you're RBing me now Az, is that the scum (dcorbe) have a WIFOM excuse to send in another No Kill and WHAM they implicate me to a lynch and scum wins.

I will most definitely investigate dcorbe, but if i am blocked I wont get any results.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:11 pm

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Just realized it wouldn't be a scum win yet if I am lynched, <unless Korts isnt actually scum then it would.>

Assuming Korts is scum, and we get a kill, it will be 1 scum:3 town on Day 3

Assuming he isnt, and we get a Kill it will be 2 scum: 2 town on Day 3

and Assuming he is but we get a no kill it will be 1 scum:4 town on Day 3
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Post Post #395 (isolation #59) » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:06 pm

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dcorbe, first off, this is a game, nothing said in these should be taken seriously. Secondly, your whole tirade against my emotional posting was just nullified by that post of yours.

secondly, just because rofl 'started' the massclaim doesn't mean he has to be scum. He didn't claim a PR right away now did he? No.

You were the first to claim a PR then added a few more, this game sucks cos of Darla's <nice btw> The in the area of 321 you are buddying up to Korts BIG time, and say rofl and dbe are the scum.

rofl is cleared as he says, and I know that I am the cop. So what I want to know is why you are being hypocritical to your own points?

You say you don't like my personal attacks<which ceased after the mod note on my part> and act above it, well lets have a look here shall we?

Starting just from page 13

Post 311 directly after the mod
You still don't understand why I voted for you and your personal attacks on me show how
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, because I haven't gotten personal this game and you have.

You not only follow roflcotper around from bandwagon to bandwagon but you also contribute no original thought of your own.
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You couldn't possibly have roleblocked me because I'm the doctor and interestingly enough I'm pretty convinced that you're town because you were my choice for the night.

This also means I'll probably be NKed tonight, but
this game isn't fun to me anymore anyways mostly because of DBE's attitude.
Post 322 (not I havent posted at all inbetween these)
If you think I'm BSing you, why don't you just lynch me and find out? I'm pretty over this whole situation anyways and
I'm probably never going to play another game with DBE again.
(and he judges me for personal attacks and OMGUS *rollseyes*)

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roflcopter or DBE need to be lynched today
what no Korts?

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We wait for everyone else to check in, in case there's a counterclaim.
You don't see what roflcopter is doing right now? Rather than answer my question he's trying to completely take over the thread by calling for a mass claim. A mass claim right now is NOT A GOOD IDEA.

He's trying to figure out exactly why his kill didn't go through so he can take out the power role tonight. He's not stupid, he submitted a kill.

As for you claiming roleblocker, that's complete BS too. It just occured to me that besides the fact that the scum didn't submit a kill order (which is highly unlikely) I may have picked you not knowing that you in fact are scum and you or roflcopter were role blocked by someone else.

Which means
DBE may not be scum after all, she may just be a whiney little brat.


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Man he just keeps sending them doesn't he? Again I haven't posted, yet he is king righteous, and oh looky there he doesnt want anyone to counterclaim.. QUICK buss his partner.

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I can't really speculate DBE's role at this point. All I know is Korts is lying through is teeth. That only leaves DBE or roflcopter as the other scum and as much of a
shit attitude as she's been copping lately
I still think roflcopter is far more likely to be flip scum.
Man did i hit a scum nerve? or does he just have super sensativity?

post 369 (after he decided I might not be scum after all,) I make ONE post and he is on me.
wow. Come home from a Friday night of parties and you guys have posted like mad. Catching up now, will post as soon as I do.

Darla,

I wouldn't even bother if I were you. You've completely lost all your credibility at this point. Everyone in this game except for roflcopter has you fingered for scum.
and just to show that I am not continuing the feud after the mod note here is my next post in 370.
ok, just ignoring the comments about me from dcorbe that are non-game related,

I am thinking, what if both dcorbe and Korts are scum together? they could have planned the PR claim thing, Idk, but I am more inclined to believe Az, because, 1. I am the Cop and I got no results last night while investigating roflcopter. I assumed I was RB'd thats why the No Kill confused me. and 2. I Investigated Poj (Az) night 1 and they came up clean. So I know that Az is not lying.

I think our scum pair lies in dcorbe/Korts

vote:Korts because you're the one who is lying here, unless you gambited the fake claim and are really vanilla which is stupid.
Posts 383 after discussion between me Korts and Az all he has to say, <no comment on whats been said since it implicates him as scum>
Quite convenient how you claim a role and a scenario which we could not possibly verify? No results because you were roleblocked? How would we possibly know that.

Not to mention there's still an outstanding case against you which is very extensive and detailed.
Then the doozy, the gem in the glass case. I make replies to Az, and here's what he says in post 390.
ecause AZ said he RB'd me. I got no results. We have no way to prove your claim either now do we?

My claim is more believable because it's pretty obvious that korts lied about role blocking me at this point.
we have someone CLAIMING to have RB'd me. Doc is an opportunist claim, its an excuse to say not to lynch you, because you are the doc.

IMO you are Korts partner. It explains why you constantly asked him if he thought I was being OMGUSy and ignoring the fact he was on both 'THE RONG WAGONS' too.
ere you go again. I'm so sick of your crap, Darla... I love how you completely ignore the rest of my case and focus on the one thing I said desperately hoping that if you can discredit me it will somehow invalidate the rest of my argument against you. You're horrible at misdirection, and horrible scum in general. You've looked scummy since day 1. And guess what, obviously EVERYONE agrees with me, because EVERYONE here except roflcopter has called your actions scummy at least once in this game. Yet you continue your ad-hom attack campaign against me. You are quite simply the
biggest bitch I've ever met.

Then you two devised this little plot hoping no one would counter claim, and you two would avoid the lynch because you had the PRs.
You're still having reading comprehension problems, because it was roflcopter who started this little massclaim, not me.
And tbh I think Korts is the more obvious of you two, and that he is more of a threat as scum since he is more experienced and should be lynched first.
If you're so convinced that I'm the liar and I'm the scum then why aren't you voting for me? Oh wait, I get it.. You're distancing yourself from korts so that when he gets lynched for being a liar you can come off looking pro-town. Sorry.. Not gonna work.

Wait... you have to take it even further and set up your mis-lynch for tomorrow:
I think our scum pair lies in dcorbe/Korts

vote:Korts because you're the one who is lying here, unless you gambited the fake claim and are really vanilla which is stupid.
As Azimuth pointed out this will all get sorted anyways, so it really doesn't matter what I say to you at this point.
az wrote:Like I said, we can lynch Korts today if we must. I'll roleblock DBE tonight, and everything will get sorted the next day.

We still need roflcopter and/or ShadowGirl for any of this, though, so we may have to wait until Saturday or whenever
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So from page 13-16 all he did was insult me, budy up to, then buss korts, and insult me some more. Gee thats so helpful.

My analysis? Pissed off scum that his partner got counter claimed, and he can't get me lynched since he doesn't like me or my play style (the feeling's becoming mutual too) and he is just throwing a fit that no one will follow his lead.

and also, what happened to high and mighty, "dbe just insulted me she has no defense she sucks" attitude? or do you enjoy being what you claim to be better than?

I am still voting korts cos I stand by my theory that he will be better to have gone tomorrow, and besides if i voted dcorbe now, he'd go off about how its OMGUS and only scum can OMGUS.
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Post Post #402 (isolation #60) » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:03 pm

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I really appreciate the thought out, and well worded response dcorbe, that totally confirmed my belief that you are indeed scum. Again, I'd vote you but then I know it'd only be said I was omgusing so I will stay on Korts, your scum buddy.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #61) » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:03 pm

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all i can say right now is we need more votes on korts or dcorbe.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #62) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:47 pm

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No results on my dcorbe investigation, got RB'd by Az presumably.

I can only assume dcorbe sent in a no kill in order to set me up. It would be easy for him to put it on me, frustrating too because I feel vindicated about Korts being scum, and have a nagging feeling y'all are gonna lynch me.

anyways, I say its time to lynch Kort's scum buddy
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Post Post #428 (isolation #63) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:16 pm

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this was going so well until I got RB'd and Korts got counter claimed.

xD ah well nice job guys!
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Post Post #433 (isolation #64) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:42 pm

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Azimuth wrote:
Porochaz wrote:DarlaBlueEyes - Cop - Lynched Day 4
Oh, you sadist! :lol: I was all set to send in another night choice and everything.

Very interesting game. The way I see it, mafia came within an hour of near-certain victory. I guess going home early on a Friday night pays off sometimes.
Proof that having a life CAN kill you. xD
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Post Post #445 (isolation #65) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:22 pm

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Korts wrote:Thanks, Porochaz, for a very enjoyable game. I think the flavor was amazing, even though it had little to no connection to the actual game. But as the prophet Jagger once said, you can't always get what you want. If I really want to find something to criticize, there could've been a vote count or two after the massclaim, I was a bit confused about the votes back there. Other than that, awesome modding, and I especially liked how you had your fun with my corpse ;)

I know now that I blew this game for us when I claimed, but I had thought about it for very long, and in the event of a massclaim, both a roleblocker claiming and a doctor claiming would've been bad to scum, since claiming a successful roleblock would've amounted to a guilty result, and claiming a successful protect would have confirmed a townie, both of which would've reduced our chances. Anyway, my claim could've worked but for two things: I shouldn't have claimed on dcorbe, because that way, it wouldn't make any sense if we're both telling the truth; and I shouldn't have put rofl at L-1 in the hopes that Darla hops on before anyone else checks in, thus pseudo-confirming Azim when I was actually trying to incriminate him.

On this note, special thanks to Azim, for replacing, and for a very balanced play. I had deduced right after the moment I claimed that you're the real RB, and that I fucked up if the town doesn't get confused enough. Thanks in great part to you, I couldn't get them confused enough to mislynch.

rofl, well, you know how you are. I didn't expect anything else than a town win once the decision was put in your hands. Really, we had no chance from there on.

dcorbe, I think you played a pretty good game, up until the massclaim. You truly did BS too much. Tip: if I'm already covered in shit, throwing some more at me won't make it stick. Other than this, though, it was a pleasure arguing with you. Just don't get personal, or feel insulted when others' arguments start to boil down to BS. Call them out for it, but no need to get angry over it. It's just a game.

ShadowGirl, the posts you made were very reasonable and balanced, and I couldn't fool you, either, into voting anyone other than me. Damn you, smart town!

Natirasha, I feel you didn't put as much effort in this game as it deserved, and maybe you lingered too much on the self-vote issue. That's why scum and town quicklynched you.

Lowell, you didn't have much of a chance to show us your townly skills, we NKed you because I suspected you of being a power role. Sorry.

Alabaska, sorry for the quicklynch. You know how it is, your wagon was being ridden by scum ;)

Darla, I think you played very good, too. For a moment, there, you had me convinced you're town :D But seriously, other than hammering Alabaska, I think you always played what you had to, and I owe you an apology for forcing you to claim. Bad move. I hope I was as good a partner as you were, partner ;)
Ha, you were great! Much better than my previous scum partner who flaked on me day1!!

The mass claim was a total risk, and dammit if Az didn't ruin it all. This was a fun game, being scum is always exciting.. now I f could just not lose >.>


heh!!

and yea.. I totally really had no idea I was hammering, I didn't realize we were in a 9 player game for some reason.. that woulda never happened had I realized.
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