Prey Mafia - Game Over

[Almost50]

In fact, what is the bloody DEFINITION of a Jailkeeper? It's a bloody ROLEBLOCKER+Doctor

[Xtoxm]

VC 4.2

[2] BrightEyedFish:

Elbirn, mcqueen

[1] Elbirn:

skitter30

[1] mcqueen:

Almost50

[3] Not Voting:

Varsoon, BrightEyedFish, Persivul

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

The Day 4 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-02-28 00:00:00)

Spoiler:

[Almost50]

It seems more like you're reaching far and wide to try to support a read change.

You know what? You're right. I will say what I want and I don't care what you think so I'm not going to explain or justify it anymore.

[Persivul]

And what id the effect of the JK on you? Huh? What does that do to your action??

It blocks you. I agree that it makes sense to include JK when discussing RBs. That's not the point. The point is that we've had two RBs flip already, and you act as if that's unheard of. That combination was one setup in Matrix 6, which ran for a long time in the newbies. I find it hard to believe that you immediately assumed I was blocked (I could have targeted an ascetic, commuter, etc) AND that you could NOT have been blocked because two blocking roles are out of the question.

[Almost50]

That combination was one setup in Matrix 6, which ran for a long time in the newbies.

And why did they stop running it? BECAUSE IT WAS BROKEN! So they rarely pass a setup with both of them in play nowadays. This why you don't directly think "Oh! Percy must be TOWN and I must've been BLOCKED and he was JAILKEPT).

[Almost50]

I could have targeted an ascetic, commuter, etc

You said you targeted ME, and I'm none of this. Hmmm.. my paranoia is increasing EVERY PASSING MINUTE.

Maybe I was wrong about Elbrin and its YOU & mcqueen? Now I feel more urge to lynch mcqueen. If he flips Green you're on the clear, If he flips red you're more likely his partner.

[Almost50]

It almost sounds like you know something I don't.. like .. you sound confident implosion didn't block me on N1, for instance??

[Almost50]

let me repeat that for emphasis!

@skitter, @Varsoon, @Elbrin, @BEF

It almost sounds like you know something I don't.. like .. you sound confident implosion didn't block me on N1, for instance??

This was directed @Percy

[Almost50]

In other words, if it ever gets revealed I was not targeted by implosion on N1, Percy is

very likely scum

himself.

[Persivul]

I could have targeted an ascetic, commuter, etc

You said you targeted ME, and I'm none of this.

I hadn't said that at the beginning of D2, and that's the point in the game we're discussing.

Should I repeat that a few times in larger text?

[Persivul]

You think mcqueen is scum? What changed

Did a search and found:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=78019

This game had a "Vengeful Loved Prankster" role.

Also came across this post by Dino: viewtopic.php?p=10141169#p10141169

The statement clearly suggests nothing wrong in making a goon loved (i.e. scum could have a Loved Modifier).

Regardless of what you/I think, it seems like some mods feel it's OK to make anti-Town roles Loved.

Can you see how it seems really unlikely that you went out, found these, and changed your read on mcqueen without mentioning your research...
but much more likely that you either forgot about the read or changed it to fit an agenda, then when caught posted these as a (very weak) justification?

[mcqueen]

1. I targeted BEF and got not a phantom.

2. I had no problem with a chara/skitter town bloc, but then yesterday A50 somehow wormed himself into it. They decide we're having mass claim, but when it gets to A50's turn, they decide we no longer need to mass claim. I've never seen that happen before. I need to go back and see who first said that the bloc didn't need to claim. I was going to raise this point yesterday, but...

3. That lynch happened unusually fast.

im gonna sound dumb but phantom=scum right?

so your result clears him if you’re telling the truth

[mcqueen]

1. I targeted BEF and got not a phantom.

2. I had no problem with a chara/skitter town bloc, but then yesterday A50 somehow wormed himself into it. They decide we're having mass claim, but when it gets to A50's turn, they decide we no longer need to mass claim. I've never seen that happen before. I need to go back and see who first said that the bloc didn't need to claim. I was going to raise this point yesterday, but...

3. That lynch happened unusually fast.

im gonna sound dumb but phantom=scum right?

so your result clears him if you’re telling the truth

ah indeed it does. thanks post 0

[mcqueen]

UNVOTE:

[mcqueen]

I think I believe A50's claim for now. Back to BEF VOTE: BEF

How is fruit vendor AI?

you know what, i was just looking at the alive playerlist and i was like “screw it, idk who’s scum” i still don’t trust A50. You’re right, idk why i took fruit vendor to necessarily be a town role

VOTE: Almost50

[Persivul]

im gonna sound dumb but phantom=scum right?

No, it's my understanding from discussions with mod and what varsoon has said that scum are typhons, with phantom being one type of typhon. Note that implosion flipped Typhon Nightmare.

[mcqueen]

bruh so this is multiball??

[mcqueen]

what the heck does Phantom mean

[Persivul]

bruh so this is multiball??

No, the Nightmare or Phantom add-on is just flavor.

[Almost50]

@Percy: Yes.. I am scum. You're absolutely correct, my friend. I am not moving my vote off mcqueen though, so do whatever you please.

[Persivul]

@ mcqueen:

@Almost50: So there's the Typhon, which is a whole race of mimic monsters that are ostensibly at war with humanity. Phantoms are just a kind of Typhon. They've got different 'types' like Cystoid, Mimic, Moon Shark, Nightmare, Phantom, Poltergeist, Telepath, Technopath, Tentacle Nest, Weaver, and Apex.

As far as I can tell from the flavor of this game of mafia, we're probably all just the humans aboard the spaceship that the game of Prey (2017) takes place on. On the most basic level, the conflicts in the game are between humans and Typhon, but there ARE human enemies that you can fight in the game (and mind-controlled ones, at that) as well as robot enemies that exist. I think the goal of this game of mafia is to depict the surface-level conflict between the humans and the Typhon, though. There's some pretty huge twists later on in the game that kinda make you question who's the good guys or not but based on flips so far I think we can probably just approach this flavor as if it's non-mindfucky for now but don't rule anything out.

So, TL;DR: Typhon are the main bad guys, but robots and humans can be bad too.

[Persivul]

@Percy: Yes.. I am scum. You're absolutely correct, my friend. I am not moving my vote off mcqueen though, so do whatever you please.

OK.
VOTE: Almost50

[skitter30]

I think I believe A50's claim for now. Back to BEF VOTE: BEF

Which claim? The real one or the fake one? Remember this is a game where we know scum have fake claims.

he's proven the claim as being real (you got targeted last night, remember?), so it doesn't make sense for it to be a fake-claim
whether or not the claim has anything to do with his alignment is an entirely different story

also @mcqueen why does his claim prompt you to not vote him anymore?

[skitter30]

2. who on earth comes up with a day-motivating-neighborizer claim as scum and then *puts themselves in a position to fuck up using it and make themselves look bad* by not being able to verify it when he could have claimed like anything else on the planet, like vt or something

Can you clarify your position on this? It seems like you're saying that the role makes no sense as a fake claim...yet does make sense as a real town role. Mod gave fakeclaims. If a role makes sense to you as real for town, then it should also make sense as a mod-supplied fake claim for scum. That's the point of mod fake claims.

yeah. it's not that i don't believe that i can be a fake-claim perse, it's more that i don't think that scum with that fake-claim randomly decides to announce it in the neighborhood pt n1 and purposefully put themselves in a scenario where they wouldn't be able to confirm

like why go through that song-and-dance in the first place? like on n1 why bother claiming something they can't prove? like why does that whole sequence of events happen in the first place?


like it's not that i believe it can't be a fake-claim, more that i believe that scum with this is a fake-claim don't behave this way

[skitter30]

If bef is town, why didn't implosion hammer when he had the chance? (TBF I haven't checked to see if imp was online during the L-1 on fish.)

i don't know if he was online, but he didn't post while that hammer was at l-1