Anime U-Pick: King Size [SEASON FINALE...?]

[Flavor Leaf]

OK, so here's a declaration: I won't claim which channel(s) I'm in and won't be posting in them either for the time being. You should all be concerned I could read what you say in your channel(s) without you realizing I'm in it.

Spoiler:

Damn, I couldn't have come up with a scummier declaration. Couple that with my RVS vote on myself, and I should be considered the antichrist of the game by all other players already.

I had the thought of doing this as well, but I decided to speak in one of them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Chito: I suspect Almost50 and mastina to be town.

Bold pocketing move. Respect

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh yeah so about the hoods: those are likely to be based on different genres of anime the characters in the hoods are from so like... theres probably no correlation on the number of wolves in each hood whatsoever.

I think we disproved it isn’t by genre in mine.

[Flavor Leaf]

To be fair, I already have an account with an anime avatar.

I really have to take advantage of that account, especially when I’m in games with Wisdom.

[Flavor Leaf]

fucks sake
where do i begin
anyone trying to lynch robert gets +2 scum points

Honestly, I’d say let it go through, he flips scum, people who were making actual reasons probably have scum in them too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Probably not Dunn, though. I think he actually believes Robert is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I meant flip town, not flip scum. I don’t think you’d be bussing

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, in my scum games, I create a very strong path for my team to win. This happened in the game I quoted the sig from. I flat out claimed who my scum members likely were, and because of it, no one ever lynched them.

Alongside people generally expect me to scum theatre very genuinely, so even people who come after me hard and vice versa aren’t safe.

I’m unsure why it’s assumed my team would fall without me if I were scum.

We won’t find that out, obviously, I’m not scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

sigh
this is gonna flip town
VOTE: robert

Why Tobert over Elena if you think they’ll flip town.

The gang of them have constantly said either me or Robert, and they’ve very much almost forgotten about Elena.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s definitely not out of his scum range, but I understand what you mean. I’m feeling it a bit too, but I’m afraid that I’m just getting played.

[Flavor Leaf]

is it because it feels like too many people are joining it when robert hasnt really done much to justify it?

~Near

I guess I just disliked how the wagon creeped up on him
I didn't realise he had a large wagon until I saw the VC

I disagree that he had that large of a wagon, and it was basically just me and my triple vote.

[Flavor Leaf]

Who were the other people besides Pink, myself, Clemency, and Joan?

If there’s scum on the wagon it’s outside of that, but Near could just as well just be scum playing that up. Definitely not out of his scum range, he’s probably one of the stronger scum players on site.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh. Aight.

Yeah, I’m not about Robert too much, but like, I get the case.

[Flavor Leaf]

On second thoughts I may have messed up how Flavor reacts to pressure, I need to accurately check his past games again

Toogeloo should be on my null list too, I'm just not lynching him today

Everyone else I townread to some extent

I react to pressure on a case by case basis. I generally react worse and more emotional as town, but I’ve been known to mimic that as scum.

However, my scum mimicking does in fact feel different, I’ll give you that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Fair warning, I won’t be able to be investigated after tonight, so anyone thinking about potentially doing that towards me should do it tonight. My Night 3 will make me essentially Ascetic.

[Flavor Leaf]

ascetic ^5
we're already ascetic though
so we're better

Ah, man, yeah, you are already better.

My character, Asta, is a character with no magic in a world where magic is everything, but he gets possession of these anti magic swords that only he can use because they nullify and absorb all magic, so my ascetic kind of takes in with that form.

[Flavor Leaf]

I need advise and I don't even know whom to trust.

OK.. here's the think... my N1/N2 "grey text" are both useless garbage. As I said I won't be able to post in the main thread tomorrow (D3) for the opening 7 days (and if there's a guilty I think the day ends before I am allowed to vote, but will check with the mod is voting counts as "posting" if I'm still alive tomorrow)

Now the 3rd grey text area is mysterious and the mod won't give me more info. Suffice it to say I may or may not gain a new ability, and if I do I don't know what it is (thus can't evaluate if it's "as good" as my other two.)

I believe you all have the option to request a new role PM

before the end of D3

as I do. However, most of you probably KNOW what your abilities are and what they're for, so should be relatively easy for you to decide. I DON'T!!

Now how am I supposed to decide whether I want a new role when I don't even know what my CURRENT role does or will have? So this is where I need your advice. It's a gamble either way, and a blind one.. (feels like betting red or black in roulette. with 0/00 being BOTH are useless)

So, red or black??

I think that’s the point to get the WIFOM.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Clemency

If anyone wants to join me.

Clemency, if scum, has dug his own grave already. If Clemency is alive late game, lynch him.

I guarantee you this. If Clemency makes it to final like 7, he is scum. I doubt he will, though, so let’s leave it at that please.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can’t say it out loud or it defeats its own purpose. If there’s scum in our channel, I’d like to see where it takes us there as well. My town reads in there are tentative, and if there’s scum in there, I’ll find them. They’ll get lured.

[Flavor Leaf]

Outed*

[Flavor Leaf]

Welcome, ooba!

So I reread some Flavor meta and it appears I got his meta wrong, he seems to omgus against pressure on him as scum too.

Hmm, I guess that’s just me trying to mimic my town meta, so that would make sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavorleaf, what's your read on Elena and why?

-Yuuri

I think scum’s on my wagon, her vote was opportunistic, she changed it after my wagon died down.

If Mastina and Wisdom are both town, I believe that’s the scum they were right about.

Robert wagon feels like town who has a solid case upon them, so scum are allowing that to happen

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I town read A50 and Pink Ball, which makes me feel more comfortable about it, and I feel scum would have jumped onto Elena by now if she was town.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Mastina and Wisdom are both town, I believe that’s the scum they were right about.

mastina has nowhere said she scumreads elena

~Near

Oh. Thought it was in her pool of 6 from before. I stopped paying attention to Mastina, tbh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I town read A50 and Pink Ball, which makes me feel more comfortable about it, and I feel scum would have jumped onto Elena by now if she was town.

this is stupid and maybe manipulative

if it was as simple as "wagon not taking off = scum" then me, you, mastina, RP, gamma are all scum and Robert is town, huh?

~Near

Nah, I said Mastina is town, I think Gamma is town, and Ive stayed my town read on RP. It’s not as simple as that always. That’s situational.

You’re comparing A New Hope to the Force Awakens. Sure, there are A LOT of similarities, and essentially the same plot, but the context and given circumstances are different, making the entire situation not the same thing at all, which explains different crowd reception, actual analytical value, and the like

[Flavor Leaf]

also, I have the added benefit of knowing I’m not scum, so I get to see the game from the perspective of me being conf town.

Everyone has this.

[Flavor Leaf]

^scum changing the subject to avoid a point they lost

~Near

Where did I Change the subject? This is a blatant misrep.

[Flavor Leaf]

You almost had me, though. I was starting to think you were town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Solid play. That response of yours looked nearly preppanned.

[Flavor Leaf]

Planned.

[Flavor Leaf]

MY point was completely relevant and directly came from your response, so if anything, YOU are the one that changed subjects by saying I was changing subjects, because I was the one who was, and still is, staying on the initial topic of the wagons not taking off means scum is on the other wagon, and Elena’s likely scum.

Notice how Wisdom doesn’t even talk about his elena scum read.

To me, that portrays that he was listing off scum reads, and put a buddy in there. He also chose not to ever really push that buddy, and even had recently brought up potentially switching to Elena. Now that more cases are coming up, and it’s actually looking like town might come over to Elena over his dedicated mislynch, he completely 180’s.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: fl

im not changing my vote again. this dies.

~Near

This is a scum claim.

VOTE: Near

I’m literally confirmable, and Clemency added power to my role Night 1 apparently that will also prove it.

For one of Clemency and I to be scum, we both have to be scum at this point.

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s do it.

Wisdom chose to back off of me because Kokichi likely told him that’s how you handle me tunneling someone. That’s why kokichi, claimed this is classic town me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Wisdom realized his dedicated mislynch wasn’t going to go through, and his buddy who he was slightly bussing earlier was probably eventually gonna pick up one Robert dissipated.

Also notice how he didn’t even give Robert replacement a chance. He’s trying to control the momentum of the game and not allow the momentum to go on his buddy.

He did the classic bus a buddy, vote a townie trick.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, I town read A50 and Pink Ball, which makes me feel more comfortable about it, and I feel scum would have jumped onto Elena by now if she was town.

this is stupid and maybe manipulative

if it was as simple as "wagon not taking off = scum" then me, you, mastina, RP, gamma are all scum and Robert is town, huh?

~Near

Also, this is literally the point I make when I’m town the most, don’t gotta use that, but yeah. I make this statement nearly every town game of mine.

[Flavor Leaf]

Which in turn probably means I make it every scum game of mine, which in itself makes it an unarguable NAI, which Wisdom is using to hide behind because there isn’t an actual case for ScumMe.

Wanna know why?

Because I’m town who know I can literally conf town myself. Wanna know the best part about that?

If I die, Clemency’s gonna be conf town. If Clemency does, I’m gonna be conf town.

Also, I get an ability if Clemency is lynched (not just Clemency, but he fits the bill), so there is literally zero reason to go me over Clemency, and I won’t let you get Clemency here today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can the entire Ooba wagon just go Near so I can show you guys that both Clemency and Myself are town tomorrow?

It’s seriously 2 for the price of 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

Worst case scenario for me this game is I get lynched, and I get to use being mislynched here to my advantage in my next couple of scum games. And town games, really.

[Flavor Leaf]

also congratz on being so hard pocketed that you apparently empowered scum

~Near

He didn’t really empower me. He almost assured my death.

[Flavor Leaf]

Added power made it seem like it was good for me

[Flavor Leaf]

ichi no bakudan
「KILLER QUEEN」
has already touched that leaf

Cool cool cool cool cool no doubt no doubt no doubt

[Flavor Leaf]

Votecount 1.15
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(91), Chito and Yuuri(79), Clemency(52), mastina(73), Joan of Arc(32)

Votecount 1.16
Vedith(9) L-1 ~ Chito and Yuuri(83), mastina(78), Joan of Arc(32), Drixx(22), Gamma Emerald(82), Torque(81), Spike and Jet(127), Near x Mello(97), Almost50(58)

Here’s the Vedith wagon. It started picking up steam, then Vedith claims and real quickly Near changes his vote to Mastina. Counterclaimed, and Near has to move back to get the bus cred.

The fact that this was counterclaimed tells me that scum is on this wagon. I think I want to say Chito’s town from this because he was on Vedith for a long time and stayed strong onto it, plus I doubt it’s them and Near.

Mastina is probably town, but could be coasting scum, i don’t really care to get into that right now. Drixx is flipped town. Joan is one of the homies. I’ll explain why i believe Gamma to be town when I pull up another vote count. And A50 is suiciding if he’s scum.

That leaves Near, SnJ, and Torque. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple scum on this wagon, and my bets would be Near and Torque if that were the case. Near relieves pressure from scummate Vedith then they got counterclaimed.

I have some more Vote stuff I’m gonna pull up for Gamma and Torque.

[Flavor Leaf]

1.15
Drixx(2) ~ singletonking(48), Torque(67)

This is who is voting Drixx prior to claims. Torque then move some over onto Vedith once Drixx claims even though they were voting there, which is why I’m starting to feel ScumTorque is very possible.



1.16
Gamma Emerald(3)~ Elena Fisher(22), Pink Ball, Clemency

This was the largest wagon besides Vedith at the end of the day. I know there was a Pink ball wagon prior, but that dissipated, so I think this is more telling. Clemency is basically conf town in my eyes already, and Pink Ball and I got into some discussion where they basically metaphorically slapped me because I was getting paranoid on the slot, mixed in with the Vedith countering wagon, Pink Ball is town. Elena being on the Gamma wagon splits scum, which we all know scum like to do, which directly coincides with the Elena/Near scum team I’ve been stating.

Near bused Vedith but backed off once pressure got involved. Near was pushing Elena/Robert/Me as scum, pushed Robert and myself, but Elena wagon gained a little steam and backed off.

[Flavor Leaf]

Votecount 1.11
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(73), Chito and Yuuri(70), Torque(60), Clemency(43), Spike and Jet(115)
Pink Ball(5) ~ Gamma Emerald(66), Joan of Arc(29), Robert2424(15), Almost50(44), Vedith(41)

These were the countering wagons prior. This actually makes me believe that Torque isn’t scum, and after thinking about it, there easily could be another scum on the Pink ball wagon here in the form of Robert.

Still. Near’s bussing on the Vedith wagon and bussing/backing off of Elena now. I don’t think Robert flips red either.

This one opens my eyes a bit more that i’m Probably wrong on a town read somewhere, but it doesn’t change the fact that Near is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

think my interactions with vedith are pretty obviously not s/s to anyone who bothers to look closely at them

Yeah, I only put you on that list because of technicalities. I don’t think you’re scum, as you can tell.

Also, Near’s trying to coerce you into mislynching me. The only thing he can do to defend himself is to act like none of this affects anything. He’s trying to push his Elena scum read

[Flavor Leaf]

Votecount 1.11

Vedith

(5) ~

Near x Mello

(73),

Chito and Yuuri

(70),

Torque

(60),

Clemency

(43),

Spike and Jet

(115)

Pink Ball

(5) ~

Gamma Emerald

(66),

Joan of Arc

(29),

Robert2424

(15),

Almost50

(44),

Vedith

(41)

i can also paint pictures

~Near

But for you, there’s no soul in it! All you are trying to do is discredit discredit discredit, when in actuality, even if my analysis is wrong, it isn’t poor analysis. Any deeper thinking and bringing up acts of the past are beneficial.

This is you actively trying to keep town from organizing.

[Flavor Leaf]

viewtopic.php?p=10623037#p10623037

Here’s the last game I did VCA with if anyone wants to check playstyle and whatnot.

It was later in game, so i had much more to go off of, but yeah

[Flavor Leaf]

your analysis is poor and crystal clear manipulative because you begin with the hypothesis im scum

~Near

It’s not that I began with that hypothesis, I have been actively finding reasons to believe that you are scum this game, and you haven’t attempted at all this game to rectify that read.

It’s not on me to analyze you “better” when you don’t give any sort of actual posting to analyze in the sense. I have been looking for scum elsewhere, I had even considered the fact that i was wrong on you multiple times, but you don’t give any actual reasons for anything, you constantly discredit and misrep, and nobody in this game should feel bad if they don’t town read you because you don’t give them anything. You are actively avoiding giving any sense of read on you, which is more than likely because you are scum.

Is there a part of me that feels that you could be green? Yes. It’s Not very high, though, because you are actively avoiding actually playing and just constantly tunnel in almost an entirely political fashion.

You wait for momentum to be pulled, and you help use the centripetal force of the natural flow and momentum in this game to move it where you would like to move it.

This has happened time after time this game, with the Vedith claim, you helping relieve the pressure, but then it got bounced right back.

You waited for Mastina to case me so you could use the momentum to join on me. The momentum was siding with me, so you backed off of it.

This is your scum game. You aren’t playing to find scum, youre swinging the momentum around to have the group mindset collectively mislynch so you don’t have to take the fall for it, and playing it in a way where if someone is mislynched, it’s their own fault.

[Flavor Leaf]

you know the best reason for everyone here to see that I am the town win this situation?

ScumWisdom has to get rid of TownFL because I’m tunneling. If I am night killed, I will do damage to the scum team, and Clemency can become confirmed town.

ScumFL doesn’t need to push Wisdom here. I night kill threats and people that push me. Take a look at OK2. I literally spent 2 nights making sure Wisdom dies.

Drixx was also in my channel.

Wisdom says that scumFL just needs to kill Wisdom then that guarantees the game for me, right?

Then why was I actively letting Wisdom go for a bit? I was going over the possibility that he was town, and I talked about this in my channel that I just really didn’t want to be wrong on Wisdom.

I even decided to vote Elena, someone that Wisdom has stated was scum. I was going along with him to try and make sure my read was as accurate as it could possibly be.

He isn’t trying to read me, he’s trying to mislynch me. I have actively been trying to read him, and I discuss with him.


I respond to every single thing he comes after me for and when he tries to discredit me.

I clear everything up.

TownWisdom does not scum read me here after doing all of these things.

He just doesn’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can the entire Ooba wagon just go Near so I can show you guys that both Clemency and Myself are town tomorrow?

It’s seriously 2 for the price of 1.

This will sound stupid but

Explain the bolded line and what that refers to

Clemency and I are able to confirm each other’s alignments basically down the line.

[Flavor Leaf]

{Robert, FL, Gamma}

these are the remaining scum

~Near

{Gamma, Robert} choose one I think

I don't think wolves would be actively bussing after Vedith's lynch

They aren't? Who do you see bussing in that team? Robert replaced out, gamma has no reads and FL is trying to get Elena lynched

~Near

YOU were straight up claiming Elena was scum. I was going in your scum pool. I was trying to not read you incorrectly and I found someone in your scum pool as scummy, but you backed off. You swing the momentum to better your position with the general audience of the game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh yeah flavor my Vedith vote had very little to do what Drixx did, using that as an argument for I could be scum bussing Vedith is bad if you looked at the post where I voted Vedith
I also feel like I townslipped like 6 times but whatever

If you check my posts, I retracted my scum read on you after diving deeper.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can the entire Ooba wagon just go Near so I can show you guys that both Clemency and Myself are town tomorrow?

It’s seriously 2 for the price of 1.

This will sound stupid but

Explain the bolded line and what that refers to

Clemency and I are able to confirm each other’s alignments basically down the line.

earlier it was tomorrow
now its down the line
can you just claim what this magic conf town shit is?

Tomorrow is literally down the line.

And I can’t yet. But I’m saying it now. If I’m alive or Clemency is alive by like final 7-9, just kill us.

[Flavor Leaf]

The Near case so it doesn’t get lost in the pages

Spoiler:

Votecount 1.15
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(91), Chito and Yuuri(79), Clemency(52), mastina(73), Joan of Arc(32)

Votecount 1.16
Vedith(9) L-1 ~ Chito and Yuuri(83), mastina(78), Joan of Arc(32), Drixx(22), Gamma Emerald(82), Torque(81), Spike and Jet(127), Near x Mello(97), Almost50(58)

Here’s the Vedith wagon. It started picking up steam, then Vedith claims and real quickly Near changes his vote to Mastina. Counterclaimed, and Near has to move back to get the bus cred.

The fact that this was counterclaimed tells me that scum is on this wagon. I think I want to say Chito’s town from this because he was on Vedith for a long time and stayed strong onto it, plus I doubt it’s them and Near.

Mastina is probably town, but could be coasting scum, i don’t really care to get into that right now. Drixx is flipped town. Joan is one of the homies. I’ll explain why i believe Gamma to be town when I pull up another vote count. And A50 is suiciding if he’s scum.

That leaves Near, SnJ, and Torque. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were multiple scum on this wagon, and my bets would be Near and Torque if that were the case. Near relieves pressure from scummate Vedith then they got counterclaimed.

I have some more Vote stuff I’m gonna pull up for Gamma and Torque.

1.15
Drixx(2) ~ singletonking(48), Torque(67)

This is who is voting Drixx prior to claims. Torque then move some over onto Vedith once Drixx claims even though they were voting there, which is why I’m starting to feel ScumTorque is very possible.



1.16
Gamma Emerald(3)~ Elena Fisher(22), Pink Ball, Clemency

This was the largest wagon besides Vedith at the end of the day. I know there was a Pink ball wagon prior, but that dissipated, so I think this is more telling. Clemency is basically conf town in my eyes already, and Pink Ball and I got into some discussion where they basically metaphorically slapped me because I was getting paranoid on the slot, mixed in with the Vedith countering wagon, Pink Ball is town. Elena being on the Gamma wagon splits scum, which we all know scum like to do, which directly coincides with the Elena/Near scum team I’ve been stating.

Near bused Vedith but backed off once pressure got involved. Near was pushing Elena/Robert/Me as scum, pushed Robert and myself, but Elena wagon gained a little steam and backed off.

Votecount 1.11
Vedith(5) ~ Near x Mello(73), Chito and Yuuri(70), Torque(60), Clemency(43), Spike and Jet(115)
Pink Ball(5) ~ Gamma Emerald(66), Joan of Arc(29), Robert2424(15), Almost50(44), Vedith(41)

These were the countering wagons prior. This actually makes me believe that Torque isn’t scum, and after thinking about it, there easily could be another scum on the Pink ball wagon here in the form of Robert.

Still. Near’s bussing on the Vedith wagon and bussing/backing off of Elena now. I don’t think Robert flips red either.

This one opens my eyes a bit more that i’m Probably wrong on a town read somewhere, but it doesn’t change the fact that Near is scum.

think my interactions with vedith are pretty obviously not s/s to anyone who bothers to look closely at them

Yeah, I only put you on that list because of technicalities. I don’t think you’re scum, as you can tell.

Also, Near’s trying to coerce you into mislynching me. The only thing he can do to defend himself is to act like none of this affects anything. He’s trying to push his Elena scum read

Votecount 1.11

Vedith

(5) ~

Near x Mello

(73),

Chito and Yuuri

(70),

Torque

(60),

Clemency

(43),

Spike and Jet

(115)

Pink Ball

(5) ~

Gamma Emerald

(66),

Joan of Arc

(29),

Robert2424

(15),

Almost50

(44),

Vedith

(41)

i can also paint pictures

~Near

But for you, there’s no soul in it! All you are trying to do is discredit discredit discredit, when in actuality, even if my analysis is wrong, it isn’t poor analysis. Any deeper thinking and bringing up acts of the past are beneficial.

This is you actively trying to keep town from organizing.

viewtopic.php?p=10623037#p10623037

Here’s the last game I did VCA with if anyone wants to check playstyle and whatnot.

It was later in game, so i had much more to go off of, but yeah

your analysis is poor and crystal clear manipulative because you begin with the hypothesis im scum

~Near

It’s not that I began with that hypothesis, I have been actively finding reasons to believe that you are scum this game, and you haven’t attempted at all this game to rectify that read.

It’s not on me to analyze you “better” when you don’t give any sort of actual posting to analyze in the sense. I have been looking for scum elsewhere, I had even considered the fact that i was wrong on you multiple times, but you don’t give any actual reasons for anything, you constantly discredit and misrep, and nobody in this game should feel bad if they don’t town read you because you don’t give them anything. You are actively avoiding giving any sense of read on you, which is more than likely because you are scum.

Is there a part of me that feels that you could be green? Yes. It’s Not very high, though, because you are actively avoiding actually playing and just constantly tunnel in almost an entirely political fashion.

You wait for momentum to be pulled, and you help use the centripetal force of the natural flow and momentum in this game to move it where you would like to move it.

This has happened time after time this game, with the Vedith claim, you helping relieve the pressure, but then it got bounced right back.

You waited for Mastina to case me so you could use the momentum to join on me. The momentum was siding with me, so you backed off of it.

This is your scum game. You aren’t playing to find scum, youre swinging the momentum around to have the group mindset collectively mislynch so you don’t have to take the fall for it, and playing it in a way where if someone is mislynched, it’s their own fault.

you know the best reason for everyone here to see that I am the town win this situation?

ScumWisdom has to get rid of TownFL because I’m tunneling. If I am night killed, I will do damage to the scum team, and Clemency can become confirmed town.

ScumFL doesn’t need to push Wisdom here. I night kill threats and people that push me. Take a look at OK2. I literally spent 2 nights making sure Wisdom dies.

Drixx was also in my channel.

Wisdom says that scumFL just needs to kill Wisdom then that guarantees the game for me, right?

Then why was I actively letting Wisdom go for a bit? I was going over the possibility that he was town, and I talked about this in my channel that I just really didn’t want to be wrong on Wisdom.

I even decided to vote Elena, someone that Wisdom has stated was scum. I was going along with him to try and make sure my read was as accurate as it could possibly be.

He isn’t trying to read me, he’s trying to mislynch me. I have actively been trying to read him, and I discuss with him.


I respond to every single thing he comes after me for and when he tries to discredit me.

I clear everything up.

TownWisdom does not scum read me here after doing all of these things.

He just doesn’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can the entire Ooba wagon just go Near so I can show you guys that both Clemency and Myself are town tomorrow?

It’s seriously 2 for the price of 1.

This will sound stupid but

Explain the bolded line and what that refers to

Clemency and I are able to confirm each other’s alignments basically down the line.

whats the price of 1

Near's lynch?

Flavor tell me

I already said with the Clemency and I having to be the same alignment, and if this isn’t proven by final 7-9 insta lynch us.

I guarantee that neither of us make it that much further into this game. Scum have to deal with us. Clemency and I are 2 players. Near is 1 slot. Him pushing us takes care of the 2 of us.

[Flavor Leaf]

fl/gamma/robert

ill repeat it every page if i have to

~Neae

Also, TownWisdom is never this surface level with his reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL's points on Near look damn solid
VOTE: Near X Mello

Chito: Can you summarize that case in your own words. Because I barely read it, I didn't particularly like the parts I did read, and I seriously get no indication here that you read it other than "this looks like a fight I can sheep one side on because a lot of things have been said". I think your reaction to FL's case is fake, which to me suggests you are more likely to be scum.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Gamma is the player who knows me best on site, and can tell when i’m locked onto scum (or what I full believe to be scum) and casing scum rather than defending against a townie.

And I pointed out, that’s basically proven, Wisdom’s lack of attempting any analysis, and just discrediting, so I’m slashing you with my sword tonight because if you are town, you will lose the game for town.

My posting is literally undeniable.

[Flavor Leaf]

So, Chito, I would like you to point out what you didn’t like and explain why, and I will state it in a way where unless you are straight up trolling or scum, there is zero possible way you can ever disagree with it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Joan, Myself, Clemency, Gamma are on Near.

[Flavor Leaf]

chito get back on fl

This is also another reason he’s scum. His proposed scum team is myself, Gamma, and Robert right?

We’re literally 3 of the main people under Fire right now.

This indicates that scum is controlling the game towards that way. Wisdom has been swinging this momentum to favor him all game, he just got screwed in the Vedith section after Drixx’s counter

[Flavor Leaf]

Chito: Why do you both want to ignore that Gamma literally just scumclaimed by saying Flavor Leaf's case was "damn good" when she has not read any post over two paragraphs this entire game?

Because that’s NAI. Someone even already pointed that out.

Gamma’s literally the counterwagon yesterday that started at the end, it’s being attempted to happen against

[Flavor Leaf]

No, vote the naughty hydra. They bussed their partner.

Gimme why you have Flavor townblocked

I asked before I flaked and all I got was Clemency playing League

WE’RE LITERALLY FUCKING CONFIRMABLE HAVE SOME PATIENCE.

Fuck.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh yeah flavor my Vedith vote had very little to do what Drixx did, using that as an argument for I could be scum bussing Vedith is bad if you looked at the post where I voted Vedith
I also feel like I townslipped like 6 times but whatever

This effectively makes this reason to town read Torque moot.

I’m starting to believe Iwas right with Near, Elena, Torque, but I feel torque’s just trolling now

[Flavor Leaf]

Because that’s NAI. Someone even already pointed that out.

Chito: Gamma making up reasons to sheep major wagons is NOT NAI.

YOure right. It’s lazy town Gamma indicative.

[Flavor Leaf]

A50...Singleton...they’re using Gamma as a scapegoat, and I town read you two, and I need your support.

[Flavor Leaf]

Imma pull a Wisdom.

Near/Elena/Torque scum team, Chito is honorary member.

Funny thing is Elena mysteriously disappeared from wisdom’s. I called his bluff when I went over to Elena.

[Flavor Leaf]

im tempted to switch to elena tbh

mainly because mastina is all "she proved she is town" which i find to be bs

but im staying here until robert produces something townreadable

~Near

Strong statements made, but he doesn’t follow through. It helps to his momentum.

And he wanted to leave the Elena bus option open.

[Flavor Leaf]

YOure right. It’s lazy town Gamma indicative.

Chito: Provide an example or you are now making up meta.

Any Gamma town game where she isn’t posting a lot during lulls. She goes in and out.

Go look it up yourself, stop being lazY.

[Flavor Leaf]

Chito is hard warlocked.

[Flavor Leaf]

Doing the work for the scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

What's the VC like?

vote fl please

~Near

A50 has already stated a town read on me.

You’re just posting the same thing over and over, once again hiding behind letting people actually analyze you, and if you get the mislynch, you’ll just push it away immediately and go to one of Gamma/Robert

[Flavor Leaf]

What do you fucking want me to do with you yelling Clem and you are confirmable, I don't have a single clue how

If Mastina and I start saying the same shit do you just fucking buy it?

I LITERALLY STATED IF WE DONT DIE BY LAST 7-9 PLAYERS THEN KILL US.

Have some patience, like oh my god, you don’t NEED to know right now because there’s the potential to get OTHERS confirmed before that, okay?

If you had been playing in a way, and let us know that that was the case, then yes, I would buy it until actions come up not to buy it.

Wanna know why?

BECAUSE PATIENCE CAN ALLOW FOR CONFIRMED TOWNIES. there is zero reason that you need to know right now, and you don’t have to town read us for it right now. It’ll speak for itself. There will literally be a global loud announcement eventually. Just, okay?

[Flavor Leaf]

Near/Elena/Torque scum team

Well, I'm on Elena and I thought you were too. Let's lynch this first then we see who else. I don't think both Near & Torque bused Vedith, so I believe at least one of then is Town here.

It’s probably Torque.

Wisdom lynch helps us get Elena lynch. He backed off of that even though he was scum reading there, recently stated he was thinking about moving over, then dropped.

This is what he does. He’s been swinging the momentum

[Flavor Leaf]

MOD: potential V/LA due to snow…
…Again.

Good god I hope not, but it's been falling for at least five hours and sticking to the roads, so who knows.

Be safe.

[Flavor Leaf]

ScumWisdom has to get rid of TownFL because I’m tunneling. If I am night killed, I will do damage to the scum team, and Clemency can become confirmed town.

ScumFL doesn’t need to push Wisdom here. I night kill threats and people that push me.

So is Clem not confirmed if you're lynched?

-Yuuri

I’m confirmed if he’s lynched, he’s not if I’m lynched. I’ve been trying to avoid saying that, but yeah. Us claiming helped us figure this stuff out. I can protect him, and he can confirm people, and I think we can kill scum with it, but I have to be vague so scum can’t play around if.

[Flavor Leaf]

I know I’m being confusing, and not making sense, but I’m trying to not give scum info about this. I’ve already said too much.

Just be patient. There’s no reason to actually go either of us, even if you think we could be gambiting this hard aimlessly.

A wise puff once told me, you do a high risk gambit for high reward, but if you’re not in any danger, it’s not worth the risk.

This all started BEFORE I was in this position. This all started BECAUSE we got to this point, not the other way around.

[Flavor Leaf]

However, my scum mimicking does in fact feel different, I’ll give you that.

Guess what I think that you are this game?

Yep.
Different. From your town reactions.

Well, you’re wrong. :shrug: I have no idea how to help you with that at this point, and I don’t really care to. I’ve given plenty of strong reasons why I’m town, and why Wisdom is scum. Other people see this. It’s not on me at this point, it’s on you to not tunnel and reanalyze if you’re town.

Occam’s razor says you aren’t actually town and you’re coasting with this, and I can’t prove that right now, nor do I gut feeling think you are scum.

There’s just nothing I can say, I feel you just want me to be scum, and if I’m not scum, I feel you just want the pleasure of mislynching me.

Either way, you’re wrong simple as that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Whichever of the 2 of them are town just want the pleasure of being able to say they got me lynched. The fact that they’re the only ones on me right now after this incredible debacle shows that there is scum in this game.


I want to make an announcement. For me to be scum here, this means that i were to have successfully taken on Wisdom and Mastina to the point they are the only ones voting me, and actively tunneling might I add, which means I would have to be essentially duping every single one of you that aren’t Wisdom/Mastina while taking both of them on.

Now, I’m a strong scum player, sure. But that is insane. The only argument for why I would play in that kind of way would be to prove I can. Fine, decent argument, but I don’t actively throw games like that. I play towards my wincon no matter what. Even as town doing crazy shit I’m still actively trying to win, which I feel is pretty apparent here.

Neither Wisdom nor Mastina know my meta very well, yet they are acting Like they are some kind of experts in it.

A50/Gamma are the only players that I feel can possibly know the extent of my game, and maybe even Singleton to a certain extent.

Does anyone here feel that I am truly duping every single player here to the point where, as wisdom out it, “If Wisdom dies, FL guarantees a win.”

PEDIT: Ill do that RP.

[Flavor Leaf]

@FL Sigh whatever. I won't touch you or Clem today. My patience hasn't been high because I'm in every position to just sheep Mastina and take the easy way to play and even told her I'd do it but I'm never really all that convinced.

Telling you how I'm playing totally defeats the purpose. Sorry. But I have plans with you if Near and Mello flip scum today. Which... I don't actually hate going in that direction. Although you don't think Gamma sheeping your case on Near but recently sheeped Near's case on Robert is awfully scummy? Like, what does that make Robert in her pov? Does she talk about that?

Gamma’s one of the players I’m closest with on site. She’s even the first player to mod a game in my BooneyToonz series that isn’t me. We’ve won town games together. If I town read Gamma and Gamma made solid points, and I wasn’t sure where to go, I’d Sheep Gamma definitely, and I feel we’re in that position, but reverse.

I feel like Mastina wants to lynch me as like an achievement, if that makes sense. As does Wisdom, but Wisdom’s achievement is he wants to beat me in a 1v1 when he’s scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dunnstral
Spike and Jet
Gamma Emerald

Chito and Yuuri
Clemency
Pink Ball
A50
Singleton
Joan
Toogeloo
dunnstral
Gamma
RP

Ooba

Mastina
Torque/Chito

Elena
Near

No order within tiers. I mean, I could probably order it, but yeah

[Flavor Leaf]

@FL Sigh whatever. I won't touch you or Clem today. My patience hasn't been high because I'm in every position to just sheep Mastina and take the easy way to play and even told her I'd do it but I'm never really all that convinced.

Telling you how I'm playing totally defeats the purpose. Sorry. But I have plans with you if Near and Mello flip scum today. Which... I don't actually hate going in that direction. Although you don't think Gamma sheeping your case on Near but recently sheeped Near's case on Robert is awfully scummy? Like, what does that make Robert in her pov? Does she talk about that?

Gamma’s one of the players I’m closest with on site. She’s even the first player to mod a game in my BooneyToonz series that isn’t me. We’ve won town games together. If I town read Gamma and Gamma made solid points, and I wasn’t sure where to go, I’d Sheep Gamma definitely, and I feel we’re in that position, but reverse.

I feel like Mastina wants to lynch me as like an achievement, if that makes sense. As does Wisdom, but Wisdom’s achievement is he wants to beat me in a 1v1 when he’s scum.

That doesn't say anything why Gamma can't be a wolf doing the same thing or using that to get a chance to jump off Robert or whatever ._.

You’re right. I don’t have a town case for Gamma other than I don’t think she’s scum, but I generally feel like I can soul read Gamma, and the fact I don’t scum read her makes me feel she’s just town.

I’m not scum reading you for pushing there, and continue pushing there and I’ll try to explain more when I can put it into words.

I feel like everything said against her is NAI, and I understand that it comes off as scummy when she just sheeps, but she DOES do that as town too. It’s just a personality thing. She was reacting heavily to stuff earlier, I feel she just lost cohesiveness in this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dunnstral
Spike and Jet
Gamma Emerald

Chito and Yuuri
Clemency
Pink Ball
A50
Singleton
Joan
Toogeloo
dunnstral
Gamma
RP

Ooba

Mastina
Torque/Chito

Elena
Near

No order within tiers. I mean, I could probably order it, but yeah

Oops. Dunnstral, spike and jet, and Gamma were meant to be deleted at the top. I copy pasted the alive list. I had Dunnstral twice too. Spike and Jet is with Ooba.

[Flavor Leaf]

Clemency
Pink Ball
A50
Singleton
Joan
Toogeloo
dunnstral
Gamma
RP

Spike and jet
Ooba

Mastina
Torque/Chito

Elena
Near



This was what my list was supposed to be. My bad. Clemency is on top.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also.
The idea I'd ever ego lynch someone is not only absolutely ridiculous, it is also highly manipulative and frankly? Disgusting that FL would even argue that point.

It’s a mixture kind of thing. I think you truly believe that I could be scum and you want to get me lynched. Nice misrep, though.

I know you’d play to your wincon.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m just gonna leave. I don’t feel like playing anymore tbh.

I’m town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Clemency was my only saving grace here.

[Flavor Leaf]

I just don’t feel like putting the effort in anymore.

And people, like Mastina, are just gonna say it’s me “tactical replacement” but that’s only if I am scum, and I’m not.

I respect my scum game too much to do that.
I don’t think I’ve ever replaced out as scum before come to think about it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Apparently I’m being replaced according to the replacement queue.

:shrug:

If you’re gonna force replace me, at least tell me. That’s just poor modding.